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taiwan_honbura
1. The Chinese have apparently a special liking for talking about the cruel methods of murder used by Japanese soldiers at Nanking, such as, to quote from Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking, decapitation, slicing off women's breasts, disembowelling women, live burials, castration the carving of organs, the roasting of people, hanging people by their tongues on iron hooks, slicing babies in thirds and fourths and so on. But all these atrocities are what the Chinese soldiers have been using for centuries past, but unknown to the Japanese.

2. To emphasize the inhumanity of the Japanese soldiers, they often go even as far as to say that Japanese soldiers took pleasure in tossing a little child into the air and piercing it with their bayonet as it came falling down. According to a famous Chinese history book, this is one of China's traditional methods of killing children, but this is in no way Japan's practice. Here again, they are telling their own story, not ours.

3. Why, then, are the Chinese so fond of repeating an exaggerated and distorted story of "Nanking rape"? One reason may be that, by so doing, they can make the world forget their own brutality: Remember that cannibalism or the practice of eating human flesh still persisted in China as recently as thirty years ago.

The second possible reason is that, by shifting the world's blame for their brutality onto the Japanese, they wish to be in a morally superior position to the Japanese.

The third is probably that, by making out Japan to be a fiendish nation, they wish to justify their aggressive political design.

4. All the Japanese, including newspaper reporters and news cameramen, who were then in Nanking, admit that a large number of plain-clothes Chinese soldiers (unlawful belligerents) were executed by the Japanese troops, but unanimously assert that there were no large-scale or systematic atrocities committed against civilians. The strange thing is that despite the world-famous tale of the holocaust of hundreds of thousands of Chinese or knee-deep pools of blood in the city of Nanking, not a single panoramic photograph of heaps of corpses in Nanking is known to us nor has even a single person come forth who has witnessed the scene of the holocaust. It may be safe, after all, to conclude that the repeated story of the slaughter of more than 300,000 Chinese civilians in Nanking is one of the biggest lies ever told in history.

Japanese historians say that such charges stem from wartime hostile propaganda, possibly easily believed by the Chinese public even if such scenes were never actually witnessed, because they were precisely the ways in which Chinese often killed each other throughout their history, including this period. Many Chinese had suffered such fates at the hands of fellow Chinese, and the average man or woman knew next-to -nothing about Japanese culture. Such people make easy prey to Chinese propaganda.
The list includes killing opponents by 1) frying them alive, 2) driving nails into their bodies, 3) cut off ears and gouge out the eyes, 4) skinning the faces alive, 5)cut the bodies open while alive and pull out the internal organs, 6) pierce a rope through the nose and pull the victims around, and the list goes on.
Of these, methods 3), 4),5),6) were actually implemented against Japanese civilians and soldiers in Chinan in May of 1928 and in Tongzhou in July of 1937.
freefallz
Are you trying to put forward a "Nanjing masscacre did not happen" argument?

And I don't understand your point 2. Never have I heard that bayoneting babies was inherited in Chinese culture. It's as shallow as bs.
MING-LOYALIST
Where is your source??
Japanese atrocities are well know and the whole world knows it.
There are eye-withneses,photos, chemical weapons dug out of the ground as well as recent found bio-chem weapons labs.


Your stuff sound mostly made up by China-haters.
I mean 60 Methods of Execution? plz its a bullet to the head much less painfull then how US excutes its prisoners.
taiwan_honbura
MING-LOYALIST

Yes bullets to the head.Just like what I said.
No pain at all. What is your point??Where are the other 59 methods?


Also on the photo it says they are terrorists who tried to carry bomb attacks.
I remember British police shot a brizillian 6 times! 'accidentally' on a train, you see terrorists are dangerous they need to be shot.
taiwan_honbura
China has always been the guardian for the North Korea (i.e. Red Korea) and Pol Pot of Cambodia "Killing Field".

Check about the history of this yourself
Mr.T
QUOTE (taiwan_honbura @ Oct 13 2005, 10:39 AM)
China has always been the guardian for the North Korea (i.e. Red Korea) and Pol Pot of Cambodia "Killing Field".

Check about the history of this yourself
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And you check this
toki
omg... ........ eek.gif thats all i have to say. why??! bawling.gif
kunomchu
This should be regarded as spam.
Col
Taiwan, don't go down there man. Everything's good until one denies history. This Nanking thing's already been beaten to death; most of us saw how Barker got destroyed a few months ago
sirgika
taiwan_honbura, have you realized yet that no one gives a $hit about the things you've posted. Your existence on this forum is just pointless.
EvilAsianDude
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. All the Japanese, including newspaper reporters and news cameramen, who were then in Nanking, admit that a large number of plain-clothes Chinese soldiers (unlawful belligerents) were executed by the Japanese troops, but unanimously assert that there were no large-scale or systematic atrocities committed against civilians. The strange thing is that despite the world-famous tale of the holocaust of hundreds of thousands of Chinese or knee-deep pools of blood in the city of Nanking, not a single panoramic photograph of heaps of corpses in Nanking is known to us nor has even a single person come forth who has witnessed the scene of the holocaust. It may be safe, after all, to conclude that the repeated story of the slaughter of more than 300,000 Chinese civilians in Nanking is one of the biggest lies ever told in history.


funny you say that

http://tinyurl.com/7dw55

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=ra...ing&sa=N&tab=wi

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&h...assacre&spell=1
Vitality
Yes it was all a conspiracy, I've been lied to my whole life. Everything I learned in history books about Japan's imperial conquests were all made up by evil Chinese and Koreans. The rape of nanking never took place, there were no Korean comfort women. All of that stuff was just the figment of Non-Japanese imagination. The Japanese never invaded Pearl Harbor either, the Americans just happened to use the A bombs for fun. Anyone else agree with me that Taiwanese are indeed the lowest form of scum on the earth? I can't believe I'm saying this but I really hope China takes back Taiwan soon and rule over it very harshly. That way the Japanese @$$ kissing Taiwanese mentality will be gone and they'll still be slaves, this time to their rightful masters the Chinese embarassedlaugh.gif2
Eclectic Asian
QUOTE (Col @ Oct 13 2005, 11:20 AM)
Taiwan, don't go down there man.  Everything's good until one denies history.  This Nanking thing's already been beaten to death; most of us saw how Barker got destroyed a few months ago
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i haven't. links please icon_smile.gif
toki
not to mention of what happened on japanese soil. when the kanto earthquake happened in 1923. the japanese blamed the koreans for it confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif

blamed them for an earthquake and set off massacres killing thousands of koreans on japanese soil..
kanto quake
kunomchu
wow thats new to me. damn japanese were evil!!!
Suijen
Koreans causing earthquakes? They're not Americans.
toki
QUOTE (Suijen @ Oct 14 2005, 03:18 PM)
Koreans causing earthquakes?  They're not Americans.
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confused.gif confused.gif

well anyways. icon_neutral.gif icon_neutral.gif
Sae
bla bla bla, stuff as important as your d!ck size
Suijen
QUOTE (toki @ Oct 14 2005, 01:19 PM)
QUOTE (Suijen @ Oct 14 2005, 03:18 PM)
Koreans causing earthquakes?  They're not Americans.
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confused.gif confused.gif

well anyways. icon_neutral.gif icon_neutral.gif
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Obesity. You know. America has an obesity problem.
Eclectic Asian
^ yea they do. it's really sad.

and then they try to lose weight the lazy way with diet pills and what not instead of the good old fashioned hard work outs
UntiedState
God I wish people would stop bringing this up altogether. Nanjing was a horrible massacre and it puts a heavy weight on my heart that I cannot do ANYTHING about it. I've even apologized for it despite not having anything to do with it and people here still continue to hate all Japanese in general. =(

I had heard of the methods of killing Taiwan had mentioned, but they were all used in ancient times while China was fractured and in civil war. As I've said in threads before, soldiers are taught to be RETARDS.
meiki
hating japanese in general is just moronic
Type98G
"taiwan_honbura" is a good example of a Japanese a*s licker biggthumpup.gif

I wounder if anymore Tiers are like him embarassedlaugh.gif
kunomchu
QUOTE (meiki @ Oct 15 2005, 06:39 AM)
hating japanese in general is just moronic
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huh thats what japanese would think.
Elysee
QUOTE (toki @ Oct 14 2005, 12:20 AM)
not to mention of what happened on japanese soil. when the kanto earthquake happened in 1923. the japanese blamed the koreans for it confused.gif  confused.gif  confused.gif  confused.gif  confused.gif  confused.gif  confused.gif  confused.gif  confused.gif  confused.gif

blamed them for an earthquake and set off massacres killing thousands of koreans on japanese soil..
kanto quake
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The japanese murdered about 6,000 koreans along with hundreds Chinese.

Some japanese with country accents were mistakenly killed also.
Suijen
QUOTE (Eclectic Asian @ Oct 14 2005, 04:10 PM)
^ yea they do. it's really sad.

and then they try to lose weight the lazy way with diet pills and what not instead of the good old fashioned hard work outs
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You lose more weight by starving yourself.
Nakata
QUOTE (taiwan_honbura @ Oct 13 2005, 04:39 AM)
1. The Chinese have apparently a special liking for talking about the cruel methods of murder used by Japanese soldiers at Nanking, such as, to quote from Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking, decapitation, slicing off women's breasts, disembowelling women, live burials, castration the carving of organs, the roasting of people, hanging people by their tongues on iron hooks, slicing babies in thirds and fourths and so on. But all these atrocities are what the Chinese soldiers have been using for centuries past, but unknown to the Japanese.

2. To emphasize the inhumanity of the Japanese soldiers, they often go even as far as to say that Japanese soldiers took pleasure in tossing a little child into the air and piercing it with their bayonet as it came falling down. According to a famous Chinese history book, this is one of China's traditional methods of killing children, but this is in no way Japan's practice. Here again, they are telling their own story, not ours.

3. Why, then, are the Chinese so fond of repeating an exaggerated and distorted story of "Nanking rape"? One reason may be that, by so doing, they can make the world forget their own brutality: Remember that cannibalism or the practice of eating human flesh still persisted in China as recently as thirty years ago.

The second possible reason is that, by shifting the world's blame for their brutality onto the Japanese, they wish to be in a morally superior position to the Japanese.

The third is probably that, by making out Japan to be a fiendish nation, they wish to justify their aggressive political design.

4. All the Japanese, including newspaper reporters and news cameramen, who were then in Nanking, admit that a large number of plain-clothes Chinese soldiers (unlawful belligerents) were executed by the Japanese troops, but unanimously assert that there were no large-scale or systematic atrocities committed against civilians. The strange thing is that despite the world-famous tale of the holocaust of hundreds of thousands of Chinese or knee-deep pools of blood in the city of Nanking, not a single panoramic photograph of heaps of corpses in Nanking is known to us nor has even a single person come forth who has witnessed the scene of the holocaust. It may be safe, after all, to conclude that the repeated story of the slaughter of more than 300,000 Chinese civilians in Nanking is one of the biggest lies ever told in history.

Japanese historians say that such charges stem from wartime hostile propaganda, possibly easily believed by the Chinese public even if such scenes were never actually witnessed, because they were precisely the ways in which Chinese often killed each other throughout their history, including this period. Many Chinese had suffered such fates at the hands of fellow Chinese, and the average man or woman knew next-to -nothing about Japanese culture. Such people make easy prey to Chinese propaganda.
The list includes killing opponents by 1) frying them alive, 2) driving nails into their bodies, 3) cut off ears and gouge out the eyes, 4) skinning the faces alive, 5)cut the bodies open while alive and pull out the internal organs, 6) pierce a rope through the nose and pull the victims around, and the list goes on.
Of these, methods 3), 4),5),6) were actually implemented against Japanese civilians and soldiers in Chinan in May of 1928 and in Tongzhou in July of 1937.
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Wow your not even Japanese but guess people like you play a large part in why so many Chinese are still hating over the subject...
Nanjing happened there are even Japanese soliders who served during the time admitting to it now....
Modern Chinese government would have nothing to gain and more to lose by propogating false rumors especially since friendly relations with Japan would be better for them now with China wanting to trade and be a world player...

I was mad at The Chinese for hating us but people like you with your denials are just helping that hate to carry on...
kunomchu
Yes create hatred.... hahahha more negative energy!!
Nakata
QUOTE (kunomchu @ Oct 15 2005, 11:43 PM)
Yes create hatred.... hahahha more negative energy!!
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Wow you sound like the Chinese version of Ogumo now...lol..
Mdof
QUOTE (Vitality @ Oct 13 2005, 05:06 PM)
Anyone else agree with me that Taiwanese are indeed the lowest form of scum on the earth?
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Taiwanese in general are nice and well-educated,indeed there are also some men whose ancestors were raped by Japanese or pure Japanese.We call them "deserted Japanese offspings who support independence of Taiwan",皇民遗孤 in Chinese. I think some one is in them here.

QUOTE
hating japanese in general is just moronic


Agree,but "loving japanese in general is also moronic" should be the omited part of your sentence.
mndeg
in Taiwan, i've never met any Japanese sympathizers so don't make bad generalizatoins (accurate generalizations are good though)
Type98G
QUOTE (mndeg @ Oct 16 2005, 12:26 AM)
in Taiwan, i've never met any Japanese sympathizers so don't make bad generalizatoins (accurate generalizations are good though)
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Don't you see Lee Teng Hui on TV confused.gif
SPQR
QUOTE (Suijen @ Oct 15 2005, 07:38 PM)
QUOTE (Eclectic Asian @ Oct 14 2005, 04:10 PM)
^ yea they do. it's really sad.

and then they try to lose weight the lazy way with diet pills and what not instead of the good old fashioned hard work outs
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You lose more weight by starving yourself.
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is this a joke? starving will lower your metabolism and eventually when you have to start eating again, you'll rebound and surpass your original weight.
Suijen
^ Yes, but you'll still lose more weight.
House
QUOTE (taiwan_honbura @ Oct 13 2005, 02:39 AM)
1. The Chinese have apparently a special liking for talking about the cruel methods of murder used by Japanese soldiers at Nanking, such as, to quote from Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking, decapitation, slicing off women's breasts, disembowelling women, live burials, castration the carving of organs, the roasting of people, hanging people by their tongues on iron hooks, slicing babies in thirds and fourths and so on. But all these atrocities are what the Chinese soldiers have been using for centuries past, but unknown to the Japanese.

2. To emphasize the inhumanity of the Japanese soldiers, they often go even as far as to say that Japanese soldiers took pleasure in tossing a little child into the air and piercing it with their bayonet as it came falling down. According to a famous Chinese history book, this is one of China's traditional methods of killing children, but this is in no way Japan's practice. Here again, they are telling their own story, not ours.

3. Why, then, are the Chinese so fond of repeating an exaggerated and distorted story of "Nanking rape"? One reason may be that, by so doing, they can make the world forget their own brutality: Remember that cannibalism or the practice of eating human flesh still persisted in China as recently as thirty years ago.

The second possible reason is that, by shifting the world's blame for their brutality onto the Japanese, they wish to be in a morally superior position to the Japanese.

The third is probably that, by making out Japan to be a fiendish nation, they wish to justify their aggressive political design.

4. All the Japanese, including newspaper reporters and news cameramen, who were then in Nanking, admit that a large number of plain-clothes Chinese soldiers (unlawful belligerents) were executed by the Japanese troops, but unanimously assert that there were no large-scale or systematic atrocities committed against civilians. The strange thing is that despite the world-famous tale of the holocaust of hundreds of thousands of Chinese or knee-deep pools of blood in the city of Nanking, not a single panoramic photograph of heaps of corpses in Nanking is known to us nor has even a single person come forth who has witnessed the scene of the holocaust. It may be safe, after all, to conclude that the repeated story of the slaughter of more than 300,000 Chinese civilians in Nanking is one of the biggest lies ever told in history.

Japanese historians say that such charges stem from wartime hostile propaganda, possibly easily believed by the Chinese public even if such scenes were never actually witnessed, because they were precisely the ways in which Chinese often killed each other throughout their history, including this period. Many Chinese had suffered such fates at the hands of fellow Chinese, and the average man or woman knew next-to -nothing about Japanese culture. Such people make easy prey to Chinese propaganda.
The list includes killing opponents by 1) frying them alive, 2) driving nails into their bodies, 3) cut off ears and gouge out the eyes, 4) skinning the faces alive, 5)cut the bodies open while alive and pull out the internal organs, 6) pierce a rope through the nose and pull the victims around, and the list goes on.
Of these, methods 3), 4),5),6) were actually implemented against Japanese civilians and soldiers in Chinan in May of 1928 and in Tongzhou in July of 1937.
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Holocaust???? It was just a bunch teenagers who called a Jew a name. No one got killed. The 6 million thing is just a Steven Speilbery invention. I know plenty of Nazis who said that none of this ever happen. Really, I saw then on TV being interview and the swore to the camera that NO Jews were ever killed.

Not only that but the slavery thing in America, it was invented by the black and those bleeding heart liberals who want to make an argument for welfare and affirmative action. I know a bunch of KKK guys who said that all they ever did was try to reason with the black guys to stay off welfare.

What an idiot!!!!
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