I'm sure a lot of people are scratching there head... IS the Real China Communist China or Pro Democracy Taiwan? Can the real China please stand up?? please stand up.
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Full Version: Is Chinese China or Taiwan
I'm not chinese so forgive for my ignorances... But which is which. I hear on the news often that China claim that Tiawan is a sapartist rouge state that really belong to china or something to that effect. and Yet, i flown on "Air China" and its Hub is in Tiawan and is own by Tiawan and operated in Tiawan. What up with China Claiming everything and everyone as there nations anyway.
I'm sure a lot of people are scratching there head... IS the Real China Communist China or Pro Democracy Taiwan? Can the real China please stand up?? please stand up.
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I'm sure a lot of people are scratching there head... IS the Real China Communist China or Pro Democracy Taiwan? Can the real China please stand up?? please stand up.
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about 400 to 1000 years ago, some fuijineses moved to taiwan and built new lives there. for 8 short years taiwan was labeled as an outpost during the tang dyansty 500 years ago, after that it belong to portgueses, and then japanese, and past 50 years has been independent. we have our own flag, money, military, language, culture.
however, china is a growing facist nation , trying to act like a gangster in chinatown and is trying to acquire taiwan. the typical story of the mafia boss trying to collect protection money from smaller businesses in his block.
if you are still confused, then ask the question. did china use a bulldozer under the ocean to scoop up soil to form the island of taiwan? no , of course not.
did china use a giant crane to lift mountains and rivers in taiwan? NO.
therefore, china does not have the right to claim taiwan.
we taiwanese, built all the homes, roads, building, democratic government in taiwan. we are the rightful owners of taiwan.
however, china is a growing facist nation , trying to act like a gangster in chinatown and is trying to acquire taiwan. the typical story of the mafia boss trying to collect protection money from smaller businesses in his block.
if you are still confused, then ask the question. did china use a bulldozer under the ocean to scoop up soil to form the island of taiwan? no , of course not.
did china use a giant crane to lift mountains and rivers in taiwan? NO.
therefore, china does not have the right to claim taiwan.
we taiwanese, built all the homes, roads, building, democratic government in taiwan. we are the rightful owners of taiwan.
QUOTE (battleship @ Oct 19 2005, 03:55 PM)
about 400 to 1000 years ago, some fuijineses moved to taiwan and built new lives there. for 8 short years taiwan was labeled as an outpost during the tang dyansty 500 years ago, after that it belong to portgueses, and then japanese, and past 50 years has been independent. we have our own flag, money, military, language, culture.
however, china is a growing facist nation , trying to act like a gangster in chinatown and is trying to acquire taiwan. the typical story of the mafia boss trying to collect protection money from smaller businesses in his block.
if you are still confused, then ask the question. did china use a bulldozer under the ocean to scoop up soil to form the island of taiwan? no , of course not.
did china use a giant crane to lift mountains and rivers in taiwan? NO.
therefore, china does not have the right to claim taiwan.
we taiwanese, built all the homes, roads, building, democratic government in taiwan. we are the rightful owners of taiwan.
however, china is a growing facist nation , trying to act like a gangster in chinatown and is trying to acquire taiwan. the typical story of the mafia boss trying to collect protection money from smaller businesses in his block.
if you are still confused, then ask the question. did china use a bulldozer under the ocean to scoop up soil to form the island of taiwan? no , of course not.
did china use a giant crane to lift mountains and rivers in taiwan? NO.
therefore, china does not have the right to claim taiwan.
we taiwanese, built all the homes, roads, building, democratic government in taiwan. we are the rightful owners of taiwan.
If it is yours of course you have to claim it as yours..... Taiwan is always part of the Chinese territory......In short the people from the Province of Taiwan is like the Black Sheep of the family.... they crave the attention so they act like rebels
If it is yours of course you have to claim it as yours..... Taiwan is always part of the Chinese territory......In short the people from the Province of Taiwan is like the Black Sheep of the family.... they crave the attention so they act like rebels
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What if Might make right. And say that Taiwan is much more stronger than mainland china. Could Taiwan make a claim that mainland china was always there and if mainland china don't summit they will invade.
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What if Might make right. And say that Taiwan is much more stronger than mainland china. Could Taiwan make a claim that mainland china was always there and if mainland china don't summit they will invade.
[quote=dinhscot,Oct 20 2005, 09:46 AM]
If it is yours of course you have to claim it as yours..... Taiwan is always part of the Chinese territory......In short the people from the Province of Taiwan is like the Black Sheep of the family.... they crave the attention so they act like rebels
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What if Might make right. And say that Taiwan is much more stronger than mainland china. Could Taiwan make a claim that mainland china was always there and if mainland china don't summit they will invade.
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I got no problem with that too... as long as it is 1 china
If it is yours of course you have to claim it as yours..... Taiwan is always part of the Chinese territory......In short the people from the Province of Taiwan is like the Black Sheep of the family.... they crave the attention so they act like rebels
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What if Might make right. And say that Taiwan is much more stronger than mainland china. Could Taiwan make a claim that mainland china was always there and if mainland china don't summit they will invade.
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I got no problem with that too... as long as it is 1 china
Unfortunately, as it seems, might make rights is the only consistend policy.
good lord you spelled Taiwan wrong 4 times.
no wonder you dont know what country its considered...
and to throw in eminem is just so wrong.
no wonder you dont know what country its considered...
and to throw in eminem is just so wrong.
Taiwan and Mainland China are both part of CHina.
[quote=blobblob,Oct 19 2005, 08:09 PM]
[quote=dinhscot,Oct 20 2005, 09:46 AM]
If it is yours of course you have to claim it as yours..... Taiwan is always part of the Chinese territory......In short the people from the Province of Taiwan is like the Black Sheep of the family.... they crave the attention so they act like rebels
[/quote]
What if Might make right. And say that Taiwan is much more stronger than mainland china. Could Taiwan make a claim that mainland china was always there and if mainland china don't summit they will invade.
[/quote]
I got no problem with that too... as long as it is 1 china
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you are a drug addict, and is addicted to the words one china. you need metal help. reality is there are over 100 china:s all over the world. every country , every continet there are chinese people. for example there are chinese americans go to san francisco or los angeles, you will see 4 million chinese , just look the phone books. wong, chu, lee, chan, tan. etc. and out of 100 china in the world, and the only facist group is mainland china, which makes china the BLACK sheep of the group.
you said what if taiwan is larger than china, taiwan would never threaten or invade other nations. good look up in the dictionary the word democratic, freedom, modern civilized society, if you are not sure what it means. where as , china :s mentally is stuck in the middle ages, but with semi modern military, that is why few nations in asia consider china an ally.
when indonesia was mass murdering chinese, taiwan had the chance to fight indonesia, since our weapons are superior. but, we chose diplomatic routes and we sent our people to remove the chinese there away from harms way. did china do anything ? NO, china is now currently selling more weapons to indonesia, so they can continue to kill more chinese.
finally, taiwan is NOT chinese territory. did china use a bulldozer under the pacific ocean and scoop up soil to form taiwan? NO. therefore, china has no authorization to claim any islands. we taiwanese, only wish to be left alone.
so , what part of NO don:t you understand?? no means No. means no way, never, get lost. means never want to hear from you again.
[quote=dinhscot,Oct 20 2005, 09:46 AM]
If it is yours of course you have to claim it as yours..... Taiwan is always part of the Chinese territory......In short the people from the Province of Taiwan is like the Black Sheep of the family.... they crave the attention so they act like rebels
[/quote]
What if Might make right. And say that Taiwan is much more stronger than mainland china. Could Taiwan make a claim that mainland china was always there and if mainland china don't summit they will invade.
[/quote]
I got no problem with that too... as long as it is 1 china
[/quote]
you are a drug addict, and is addicted to the words one china. you need metal help. reality is there are over 100 china:s all over the world. every country , every continet there are chinese people. for example there are chinese americans go to san francisco or los angeles, you will see 4 million chinese , just look the phone books. wong, chu, lee, chan, tan. etc. and out of 100 china in the world, and the only facist group is mainland china, which makes china the BLACK sheep of the group.
you said what if taiwan is larger than china, taiwan would never threaten or invade other nations. good look up in the dictionary the word democratic, freedom, modern civilized society, if you are not sure what it means. where as , china :s mentally is stuck in the middle ages, but with semi modern military, that is why few nations in asia consider china an ally.
when indonesia was mass murdering chinese, taiwan had the chance to fight indonesia, since our weapons are superior. but, we chose diplomatic routes and we sent our people to remove the chinese there away from harms way. did china do anything ? NO, china is now currently selling more weapons to indonesia, so they can continue to kill more chinese.
finally, taiwan is NOT chinese territory. did china use a bulldozer under the pacific ocean and scoop up soil to form taiwan? NO. therefore, china has no authorization to claim any islands. we taiwanese, only wish to be left alone.
so , what part of NO don:t you understand?? no means No. means no way, never, get lost. means never want to hear from you again.
[quote=battleship,Oct 20 2005, 02:22 PM]
[quote=blobblob,Oct 19 2005, 08:09 PM]
[quote=dinhscot,Oct 20 2005, 09:46 AM]
If it is yours of course you have to claim it as yours..... Taiwan is always part of the Chinese territory......In short the people from the Province of Taiwan is like the Black Sheep of the family.... they crave the attention so they act like rebels
[/quote]
What if Might make right. And say that Taiwan is much more stronger than mainland china. Could Taiwan make a claim that mainland china was always there and if mainland china don't summit they will invade.
[/quote]
I got no problem with that too... as long as it is 1 china
[/quote]
you are a drug addict, and is addicted to the words one china. you need metal help. reality is there are over 100 china:s all over the world. every country , every continet there are chinese people. for example there are chinese americans go to san francisco or los angeles, you will see 4 million chinese , just look the phone books. wong, chu, lee, chan, tan. etc. and out of 100 china in the world, and the only facist group is mainland china, which makes china the BLACK sheep of the group.
you said what if taiwan is larger than china, taiwan would never threaten or invade other nations. good look up in the dictionary the word democratic, freedom, modern civilized society, if you are not sure what it means. where as , china :s mentally is stuck in the middle ages, but with semi modern military, that is why few nations in asia consider china an ally.
when indonesia was mass murdering chinese, taiwan had the chance to fight indonesia, since our weapons are superior. but, we chose diplomatic routes and we sent our people to remove the chinese there away from harms way. did china do anything ? NO, china is now currently selling more weapons to indonesia, so they can continue to kill more chinese.
finally, taiwan is NOT chinese territory. did china use a bulldozer under the pacific ocean and scoop up soil to form taiwan? NO. therefore, china has no authorization to claim any islands. we taiwanese, only wish to be left alone.
so , what part of NO don:t you understand?? no means No. means no way, never, get lost. means never want to hear from you again.
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Let me ask you this:
Did the TAIWANESE SEPERATISTS use a bulldozer under the pacific ocean and scoop up soil to form taiwan?
NO NO NO, so how can you claim it as yours... the only person that has the right to claim taiwan is the aborigines living there.
so it is part of China... i am sure 90% of us taiwanese thinks like me, and only 10% thinks like you ... too bad the world doesnt revolve around you.......... tough luck.... battleship..
[quote=blobblob,Oct 19 2005, 08:09 PM]
[quote=dinhscot,Oct 20 2005, 09:46 AM]
If it is yours of course you have to claim it as yours..... Taiwan is always part of the Chinese territory......In short the people from the Province of Taiwan is like the Black Sheep of the family.... they crave the attention so they act like rebels
[/quote]
What if Might make right. And say that Taiwan is much more stronger than mainland china. Could Taiwan make a claim that mainland china was always there and if mainland china don't summit they will invade.
[/quote]
I got no problem with that too... as long as it is 1 china
[/quote]
you are a drug addict, and is addicted to the words one china. you need metal help. reality is there are over 100 china:s all over the world. every country , every continet there are chinese people. for example there are chinese americans go to san francisco or los angeles, you will see 4 million chinese , just look the phone books. wong, chu, lee, chan, tan. etc. and out of 100 china in the world, and the only facist group is mainland china, which makes china the BLACK sheep of the group.
you said what if taiwan is larger than china, taiwan would never threaten or invade other nations. good look up in the dictionary the word democratic, freedom, modern civilized society, if you are not sure what it means. where as , china :s mentally is stuck in the middle ages, but with semi modern military, that is why few nations in asia consider china an ally.
when indonesia was mass murdering chinese, taiwan had the chance to fight indonesia, since our weapons are superior. but, we chose diplomatic routes and we sent our people to remove the chinese there away from harms way. did china do anything ? NO, china is now currently selling more weapons to indonesia, so they can continue to kill more chinese.
finally, taiwan is NOT chinese territory. did china use a bulldozer under the pacific ocean and scoop up soil to form taiwan? NO. therefore, china has no authorization to claim any islands. we taiwanese, only wish to be left alone.
so , what part of NO don:t you understand?? no means No. means no way, never, get lost. means never want to hear from you again.
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Let me ask you this:
Did the TAIWANESE SEPERATISTS use a bulldozer under the pacific ocean and scoop up soil to form taiwan?
NO NO NO, so how can you claim it as yours... the only person that has the right to claim taiwan is the aborigines living there.
so it is part of China... i am sure 90% of us taiwanese thinks like me, and only 10% thinks like you ... too bad the world doesnt revolve around you.......... tough luck.... battleship..
*sigh* its just a big debatable issue with no real right or wrong answer. =X i afraid to say more since the last time i commented on sumthing almost like this, i got called an airhead, clueless, etc etc. =) 
There is a right answer to the issue. Peace reunification.
QUOTE (blobblob @ Oct 20 2005, 12:42 AM)
so it is part of China... i am sure 90% of us taiwanese thinks like me, and only 10% thinks like you
you are mistaken.
GEEZ!
Read the Cairo Declaration. Taiwan is both legally and traditionally a part of China.
Read the Cairo Declaration. Taiwan is both legally and traditionally a part of China.
[quote=dinhscot,Oct 20 2005, 11:46 AM]
If it is yours of course you have to claim it as yours..... Taiwan is always part of the Chinese territory......In short the people from the Province of Taiwan is like the Black Sheep of the family.... they crave the attention so they act like rebels
[/quote]
What if Might make right. And say that Taiwan is much more stronger than mainland china. Could Taiwan make a claim that mainland china was always there and if mainland china don't summit they will invade.
[/quote]
yeah if taiwan claim thats mainland china is a part of taiwan yeah i suppose its better than taiwan being independent at least its still a reunification and i think if china is poor it will agree although it may sound a bit degrading
If it is yours of course you have to claim it as yours..... Taiwan is always part of the Chinese territory......In short the people from the Province of Taiwan is like the Black Sheep of the family.... they crave the attention so they act like rebels
[/quote]
What if Might make right. And say that Taiwan is much more stronger than mainland china. Could Taiwan make a claim that mainland china was always there and if mainland china don't summit they will invade.
[/quote]
yeah if taiwan claim thats mainland china is a part of taiwan yeah i suppose its better than taiwan being independent at least its still a reunification and i think if china is poor it will agree although it may sound a bit degrading
^ That's so funny though.
Chang Kai Shek is one hell of a guy.
Chang Kai Shek is one hell of a guy.
Battleship believes very strongly in self determination. I believe that every person in the world deserves their own country. 6 billion nations! I now proclaim independence from United States and establish the kingdom of Kunomchu!
I think China and Taiwan should democratically in a popular election with every citizen of both governments should vote for unification or not. That's democratic.
QUOTE (RedStarOverChina @ Oct 20 2005, 10:38 AM)
GEEZ!
Read the Cairo Declaration. Taiwan is both legally and traditionally a part of China.
Read the Cairo Declaration. Taiwan is both legally and traditionally a part of China.
you chinese will never learn. the Taiwanese race will never yield and submit.
^ It's not a race dude.
Hes not even an aborigine.
He sounds like a WASP claiming to be a Native American (Red Indian)
He sounds like a WASP claiming to be a Native American (Red Indian)
QUOTE (MasteroD @ Oct 31 2005, 07:28 AM)
you chinese will never learn. the Taiwanese race will never yield and submit.
休想
NOT ALL TAIWANESE THINKS LIKE YOU!!
Tiers IQ levels are pretty low
QUOTE (MasteroD @ Oct 31 2005, 09:28 AM)
you chinese will never learn. the Taiwanese race will never yield and submit.
how dare u! not even the japanese and americans say such rude things to chinese ppl. not any race to any race ive seen.
lol intestine, you are the only one responding to battleship and masterd f@g. lol
omg how dare he!
QUOTE (dinhscot @ Oct 19 2005, 01:48 AM)
I'm not chinese so forgive for my ignorances... But which is which. I hear on the news often that China claim that Tiawan is a sapartist rouge state that really belong to china or something to that effect. and Yet, i flown on "Air China" and its Hub is in Tiawan and is own by Tiawan and operated in Tiawan. What up with China Claiming everything and everyone as there nations anyway.
I'm sure a lot of people are scratching there head... IS the Real China Communist China or Pro Democracy Taiwan? Can the real China please stand up?? please stand up.
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I'm sure a lot of people are scratching there head... IS the Real China Communist China or Pro Democracy Taiwan? Can the real China please stand up?? please stand up.
2There is something called the encyclopedia.
I dont think alot of people are scratching their head. Most people are well informed from daily contacts with medias from television/ newspaper, internet, or books.
Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
QUOTE (RentonWong @ Nov 2 2005, 10:20 AM)
Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Thats right sonny, its not good to believe everything comming from the internet; especially the internet forums, where thirteen year olds come and talk about things thats too complex for them.
How many here would see a difference in their lives if Taiwan submits to China and let communism govern its citizen's lives?
^ The communism [which isn't even pure communism] doesn't really govern citizen's day to day lives. I have relatives who live in China, and I don't hear crap about suppression everyday. They are perfectly fine.
QUOTE (bobX @ Nov 2 2005, 06:15 PM)
Thats right sonny, its not good to believe everything comming from the internet; especially the internet forums, where thirteen year olds come and talk about things thats too complex for them.
How many here would see a difference in their lives if Taiwan submits to China and let communism govern its citizen's lives?
How many here would see a difference in their lives if Taiwan submits to China and let communism govern its citizen's lives?
The anti-Secession law basically allows Taiwan to govern itself. It only wants Taiwan in name really.
Of course, there will be increased trade.
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