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Kulong
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/...cene/index.html

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Extraordinary scenes in Seoul

Politicians push, shove and block each other

Friday, March 12, 2004 Posted: 0402 GMT (1202 HKT)

SEOUL, South Korea -- Extraordinary scenes unfolded in Seoul on Friday, as politicians physically battled each other in the country's first impeachment bid since the nation was founded in 1948.

Politicians scuffled both inside and outside parliament, shoving each other around and blocking the National Assembly speaker from taking the podium in a bid to stop the unprecedented vote.

Lawmakers loyal to President Roh Moo-hyun wanted to stymie the debate and stall for time in the hope that the ouster motion would automatically expire via a sunset clause on Friday evening.

But as the clock ticked for opposition members to call a vote, rival factions cursed and shoved as they fought for the speaker's podium.

Dozens of pro-Roh Uri Party members had camped out around the podium overnight after South Korea's two main opposition parties tried to call a vote on Thursday.

A 20-minute scuffle erupted earlier Friday when about 20 opposition legislators stormed the National Assembly hall to try to remove their rivals, who were sleeping around the dais, according to local media reports.

Lawmakers belonging to the opposition Grand National and Millennium Democratic parties tugged at Chung Se-kyun, a member of the pro-Roh Uri Party, to try to dislodge him from the speaker's seat.

Chung held fast, while another lawmaker supporting Roh jumped onto the speaker's podium desk and shouted at the intruders, the Associated Press reported.

Later about 200 Roh supporters briefly exchanged punches with riot police, who blocked them from marching on the National Assembly building.

They chanted, "Let's block impeachment!"

'I will kill them all'
Earlier Friday, a man attempted to drive his car up the steep steps into the assembly hall in protest.

When the car stalled, the man got out and set the car on fire, police Sgt. Lee Sun-kyun, told AP.

"I will kill them all!" the man shouted as assembly guards overpowered him.

In a dramatic protest the day before, a Roh supporter set himself on fire outside parliament, shouting "Let's block impeachment!"

That ended a day of street protests for and against the impeachment motion, as Roh supporters stood behind their president, denouncing lawmakers for seeking to remove him from office.

On the other side, demonstrators called for Roh's resignation.

In Seoul, opinions varied on the impeachment. But almost everyone agreed they wanted the fighting to end.

"Lawmakers should be working together to resolve this problem," said one office worker.

"Impeachment is not the answer."

One young student said she was troubled by so much chaos, especially when the economy seems to be so bad.

The National Elections Commission ruled last week that Roh had engaged in illegal electioneering, but that the infraction was minor, not warranting criminal charges.

Opposition lawmakers also charge Roh with incompetence at a time the country is trying to balance tensions over North Korea's nuclear programs with a fragile economic recovery.

-- CNN's Seoul Correspondent Sohn Jie-ae and The Associated Press contributed to this report










Florenze
It's a disgraceful thing to happen.
Things like that happen in Taiwan too...doesn't it?
I have seen on TV and also read in the newspaper about that.
However that was like many years back...does these things still
happen in Taiwan now?
Kulong
QUOTE (Florenze @ Mar 12 2004, 10:43 AM)
It's a disgraceful thing to happen.
Things like that happen in Taiwan too...doesn't it?
I have seen on TV and also read in the newspaper about that.
However that was like many years back...does these things still
happen in Taiwan now?

Yeah, I remember seeing in on TV when I was a kid in Taiwan. But I haven't heard much about it recently. But I'm sure it still happens every once in a while.

The problem in Taiwan is that the two main parties, KMT and DPP have completely different ideologies, unlike U.S. political parties of Republican and Democrats who are much more similar.

What is the political situation in South Korea? How many main political parties are there and how different are their ideologies? I was surprised by this news because I've always thought South Korean parties were all pretty much alike like the U.S.
JamesLovesAyumi
Wow! Seems pretty chaotic!

And Government's are supposed to set and example... sure.gif

This sort of thing isn't just confined to Korea, it happens elsewhere too.
Hyena
yesterday's debacle was actually quite tame - i've seen boxing matches, shireum matches, judo matches... you wouldn't believe the technique on these old geezers. yesterday was more of a tug-o-war match...
kpjoon
hahaha...politicion fist fights...gotta love em biggrin.gif
DaMo
Wow! And I thought this sort of thing only happened in India sure.gif
Ogumo
Thats just outrageous.
BPXxKraPxX315
Woah thats pretty funny. Just imagine if the House of Representatives fought like that. Haha.
Rad Raz
QUOTE (DaMo @ Mar 12 2004, 06:20 PM)
Wow! And I thought this sort of thing only happened in India sure.gif

The last time i've seen Indian parliament in fight action, they didn't fist fight or any of physical body attacks. Instead they throw mics at eachother.
azn_pyde_viet
QUOTE (Kulong @ Mar 12 2004, 10:55 AM)
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/...cene/index.html

QUOTE
Extraordinary scenes in Seoul

Politicians push, shove and block each other

Friday, March 12, 2004 Posted: 0402 GMT (1202 HKT)

SEOUL, South Korea -- Extraordinary scenes unfolded in Seoul on Friday, as politicians physically battled each other in the country's first impeachment bid since the nation was founded in 1948.

Politicians scuffled both inside and outside parliament, shoving each other around and blocking the National Assembly speaker from taking the podium in a bid to stop the unprecedented vote.

Lawmakers loyal to President Roh Moo-hyun wanted to stymie the debate and stall for time in the hope that the ouster motion would automatically expire via a sunset clause on Friday evening.

But as the clock ticked for opposition members to call a vote, rival factions cursed and shoved as they fought for the speaker's podium.

Dozens of pro-Roh Uri Party members had camped out around the podium overnight after South Korea's two main opposition parties tried to call a vote on Thursday.

A 20-minute scuffle erupted earlier Friday when about 20 opposition legislators stormed the National Assembly hall to try to remove their rivals, who were sleeping around the dais, according to local media reports.

Lawmakers belonging to the opposition Grand National and Millennium Democratic parties tugged at Chung Se-kyun, a member of the pro-Roh Uri Party, to try to dislodge him from the speaker's seat.

Chung held fast, while another lawmaker supporting Roh jumped onto the speaker's podium desk and shouted at the intruders, the Associated Press reported.

Later about 200 Roh supporters briefly exchanged punches with riot police, who blocked them from marching on the National Assembly building.

They chanted, "Let's block impeachment!"

'I will kill them all'
Earlier Friday, a man attempted to drive his car up the steep steps into the assembly hall in protest.

When the car stalled, the man got out and set the car on fire, police Sgt. Lee Sun-kyun, told AP.

"I will kill them all!" the man shouted as assembly guards overpowered him.

In a dramatic protest the day before, a Roh supporter set himself on fire outside parliament, shouting "Let's block impeachment!"

That ended a day of street protests for and against the impeachment motion, as Roh supporters stood behind their president, denouncing lawmakers for seeking to remove him from office.

On the other side, demonstrators called for Roh's resignation.

In Seoul, opinions varied on the impeachment. But almost everyone agreed they wanted the fighting to end.

"Lawmakers should be working together to resolve this problem," said one office worker.

"Impeachment is not the answer."

One young student said she was troubled by so much chaos, especially when the economy seems to be so bad.

The National Elections Commission ruled last week that Roh had engaged in illegal electioneering, but that the infraction was minor, not warranting criminal charges.

Opposition lawmakers also charge Roh with incompetence at a time the country is trying to balance tensions over North Korea's nuclear programs with a fragile economic recovery.

-- CNN's Seoul Correspondent Sohn Jie-ae and The Associated Press contributed to this report











cool...
lovelyfart
QUOTE (azn_pyde_viet @ Mar 12 2004, 11:30 PM)
cool...

what is so cool and funny guys? bawling.gif
IORI
Same thing happened in japan when they were proposing to deploy SDF forces to iraq.

Luckily china and N korea have no opposition parties otherwise it'll be all out war.
Kulong
QUOTE (IORI @ Mar 13 2004, 03:25 AM)
Same thing happened in japan when they were proposing to deploy SDF forces to iraq.

Luckily china and N korea have no opposition parties otherwise it'll be all out war.

If by "China" you mean the P.R.C. then you are right. But things like this happen in the R.O.C. (Taiwan) as well, especially when the two main parties (KMT & DPP) have such different ideologies.
ArmorCaptain
These are the main political parties of South Korea. There are actually about 20 or so parties (mostly offshoots of the ones below).

Hannara Dang (Grand National Party, conservative)
Minju Dang (Democratic Party, liberal
Millenium Democratic Party
Jayu Minju Yonmaeng (United Liberal Democrats, conservative)
Minkook Dang (Democratic People's Party)
Minjunodong Dang (Democratic Labour Party)
Cheongnyeonjinbo Dang (Youth Progress Party, socialist)
Huimangui Sinhanguk Dang (New Korea Party of Hope, conservative)
tongbao_vince
That's not as bad as in Taiwan. At least no shoes were involved.
herosword
QUOTE (DaMo @ Mar 13 2004, 06:10 AM)

Is it a trend, or our parliaments of Asian countries are the one that resort to fist and kicks?
Some of the things that were fought over just seems ridiculous. "Stinky Tofu!"
"Suspicion that the Sri Lanka President was a spy and carried a camera in her handbag." embarassedlaugh.gif
arirang
not good
KJlost
Thank you very much for cluttering up the forum with a 2-year old thread.
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