I am just wondering whether vietnamese are actually han chinese who have lost their identity ?
You are so similar to the chinese in terms of
1. You have chinese surnames even after one thousand years of independence from china.
2. You willongly embraced our religion, culture, clothing and traditions.
3. You look like Chinese.
4. You eat chinese style food.
Full Version: Vietnamese people are lost han chinese ?
And you're an idiot.
QUOTE (Q57 @ Nov 1 2005, 06:08 AM)
I am just wondering whether vietnamese are actually han chinese who have lost their identity ?
You are so similar to the chinese in terms of
1. You have chinese surnames even after one thousand years of independence from china.
2. You willongly embraced our religion, culture, clothing and traditions.
3. You look like Chinese.
4. You eat chinese style food.
You are so similar to the chinese in terms of
1. You have chinese surnames even after one thousand years of independence from china.
2. You willongly embraced our religion, culture, clothing and traditions.
3. You look like Chinese.
4. You eat chinese style food.
Viet and Han is different.
http://goldsea.com/Poll/CHMVF/chmvf_20526.html
QUOTE (viet-storian @ Nov 1 2005, 06:52 AM)
QUOTE (Q57 @ Nov 1 2005, 06:08 AM)
I am just wondering whether vietnamese are actually han chinese who have lost their identity ?
You are so similar to the chinese in terms of
1. You have chinese surnames even after one thousand years of independence from china.
2. You willongly embraced our religion, culture, clothing and traditions.
3. You look like Chinese.
4. You eat chinese style food.
You are so similar to the chinese in terms of
1. You have chinese surnames even after one thousand years of independence from china.
2. You willongly embraced our religion, culture, clothing and traditions.
3. You look like Chinese.
4. You eat chinese style food.
Viet and Han is different.
http://goldsea.com/Poll/CHMVF/chmvf_20526.html
the vietnamese are originally considered to be the Yueh (viet or kinh), who were indigenous or native to where South and SouthEastern China is today. In no way were they related to the Han.....
QUOTE (viet-storian @ Nov 1 2005, 06:55 AM)
QUOTE (viet-storian @ Nov 1 2005, 06:52 AM)
QUOTE (Q57 @ Nov 1 2005, 06:08 AM)
I am just wondering whether vietnamese are actually han chinese who have lost their identity ?
You are so similar to the chinese in terms of
1. You have chinese surnames even after one thousand years of independence from china.
2. You willongly embraced our religion, culture, clothing and traditions.
3. You look like Chinese.
4. You eat chinese style food.
You are so similar to the chinese in terms of
1. You have chinese surnames even after one thousand years of independence from china.
2. You willongly embraced our religion, culture, clothing and traditions.
3. You look like Chinese.
4. You eat chinese style food.
Viet and Han is different.
http://goldsea.com/Poll/CHMVF/chmvf_20526.html
the vietnamese are originally considered to be the Yueh (viet or kinh), who were indigenous or native to where South and SouthEastern China is today. In no way were they related to the Han.....
then they are related to cambodians ?
QUOTE (DavidChen @ Nov 1 2005, 06:57 AM)
QUOTE (viet-storian @ Nov 1 2005, 06:55 AM)
QUOTE (viet-storian @ Nov 1 2005, 06:52 AM)
QUOTE (Q57 @ Nov 1 2005, 06:08 AM)
I am just wondering whether vietnamese are actually han chinese who have lost their identity ?
You are so similar to the chinese in terms of
1. You have chinese surnames even after one thousand years of independence from china.
2. You willongly embraced our religion, culture, clothing and traditions.
3. You look like Chinese.
4. You eat chinese style food.
You are so similar to the chinese in terms of
1. You have chinese surnames even after one thousand years of independence from china.
2. You willongly embraced our religion, culture, clothing and traditions.
3. You look like Chinese.
4. You eat chinese style food.
Viet and Han is different.
http://goldsea.com/Poll/CHMVF/chmvf_20526.html
the vietnamese are originally considered to be the Yueh (viet or kinh), who were indigenous or native to where South and SouthEastern China is today. In no way were they related to the Han.....
then they are related to cambodians ?
Austroasiatic: (Vietnamese, Cambodian), Daic (Thai), and Miao-Yao families of southeast Asia--recently lumped together with Austronesian as a single superfamily.
so basically you guys are like cambodians , until the chinese came then you became lighter skinned. makes sense.
Austroasiatic is how our languages are similar. But for physicall appearance you guys are more related to indoneasian,thai, laos and Cham people in central vietnam.
"The viets lived in that area originally and have been recorded to even in the chinese annals. They then moved south to where vietnam is now (northern vietnam) because of the invading chinese (Han).The viets don't have Han in their blood (or atleast most viets don't). It is commonly believed that the southerners have less of a circle face, and has more of a heart shaped face, also leaner in body structure, brighter and lighter in skin, with bigger eyes and more double eyelids. It is possible that the Yueh line gave the southern chinese this (as it is written in chinese annals that the viets had these traits along with a whole bunch of stuff concerning the toes,toes thing too long, so someone else can right it if another is curious). The vietnamese have these traits too."
http://goldsea.com/Poll/CHMVF/chmvf_20526.html
"The viets lived in that area originally and have been recorded to even in the chinese annals. They then moved south to where vietnam is now (northern vietnam) because of the invading chinese (Han).The viets don't have Han in their blood (or atleast most viets don't). It is commonly believed that the southerners have less of a circle face, and has more of a heart shaped face, also leaner in body structure, brighter and lighter in skin, with bigger eyes and more double eyelids. It is possible that the Yueh line gave the southern chinese this (as it is written in chinese annals that the viets had these traits along with a whole bunch of stuff concerning the toes,toes thing too long, so someone else can right it if another is curious). The vietnamese have these traits too."
http://goldsea.com/Poll/CHMVF/chmvf_20526.html
QUOTE (viet-storian @ Nov 1 2005, 07:11 AM)
Austroasiatic is how our languages are similar. But for physicall appearance you guys are more related to indoneasian,thai, laos and Cham people in central vietnam.
"The viets lived in that area originally and have been recorded to even in the chinese annals. They then moved south to where vietnam is now (northern vietnam) because of the invading chinese (Han).The viets don't have Han in their blood (or atleast most viets don't). It is commonly believed that the southerners have less of a circle face, and has more of a heart shaped face, also leaner in body structure, brighter and lighter in skin, with bigger eyes and more double eyelids. It is possible that the Yueh line gave the southern chinese this (as it is written in chinese annals that the viets had these traits along with a whole bunch of stuff concerning the toes,toes thing too long, so someone else can right it if another is curious). The vietnamese have these traits too."
http://goldsea.com/Poll/CHMVF/chmvf_20526.html
"The viets lived in that area originally and have been recorded to even in the chinese annals. They then moved south to where vietnam is now (northern vietnam) because of the invading chinese (Han).The viets don't have Han in their blood (or atleast most viets don't). It is commonly believed that the southerners have less of a circle face, and has more of a heart shaped face, also leaner in body structure, brighter and lighter in skin, with bigger eyes and more double eyelids. It is possible that the Yueh line gave the southern chinese this (as it is written in chinese annals that the viets had these traits along with a whole bunch of stuff concerning the toes,toes thing too long, so someone else can right it if another is curious). The vietnamese have these traits too."
http://goldsea.com/Poll/CHMVF/chmvf_20526.html
so it must of branched off from some cambodian tribes that moved north then moved back down.
i want to be cambodian
Well the move south aborbed the khmer and cham into the vietnamese, but is only evident in the south. The central and northern area was free of khmer and cham, hence the reason for the lighter skin.
ok i get it ,
so basically chinese mix with cambodians equals = vietnamese
in that case , you guys were a bunch of mistakes. because for han chinese to have sex with cambodians is to me very low class. i guess there was no form of abortion when it happened so vietnamese spread thru the south
so basically chinese mix with cambodians equals = vietnamese
in that case , you guys were a bunch of mistakes. because for han chinese to have sex with cambodians is to me very low class. i guess there was no form of abortion when it happened so vietnamese spread thru the south
Talking about mistake, i guess we have something in common with Chinese women. Heh Heh
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ok i get it ,
so basically chinese mix with cambodians equals = vietnamese
in that case , you guys were a bunch of mistakes. because for han chinese to have sex with cambodians is to me very low class. i guess there was no form of abortion when it happened so vietnamese spread thru the south
so basically chinese mix with cambodians equals = vietnamese
in that case , you guys were a bunch of mistakes. because for han chinese to have sex with cambodians is to me very low class. i guess there was no form of abortion when it happened so vietnamese spread thru the south
^ WTF
in ur dreams buddy
another useless thread
QUOTE (DavidChen @ Nov 1 2005, 07:22 AM)
ok i get it ,
so basically chinese mix with cambodians equals = vietnamese
in that case , you guys were a bunch of mistakes. because for han chinese to have sex with cambodians is to me very low class. i guess there was no form of abortion when it happened so vietnamese spread thru the south
so basically chinese mix with cambodians equals = vietnamese
in that case , you guys were a bunch of mistakes. because for han chinese to have sex with cambodians is to me very low class. i guess there was no form of abortion when it happened so vietnamese spread thru the south
傻瓜
去地狱!!!!!!!!!!! 
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no fu-king way
hans were originated from north west china and move to huang he ville in north central china.
hans were originated from north west china and move to huang he ville in north central china.
davidchen: quit insulting cambodians u sino supremacist
i think of you as being extremely low class as a result of displaying such primitive ignorance in a modern society
i think of you as being extremely low class as a result of displaying such primitive ignorance in a modern society
viet and han are different, but viet can be considered a lost yeuh tribe that never assimiliated into the Han
as for viet being cambodian, NO...we are in noway related to them, we didnt even have contact with them since Champa was blocking our way til 1300's, but i have done some research, and i see alot of cambodians say that china and and cambodia are long lost blood brothers
as for viet being cambodian, NO...we are in noway related to them, we didnt even have contact with them since Champa was blocking our way til 1300's, but i have done some research, and i see alot of cambodians say that china and and cambodia are long lost blood brothers
All Asians are long lost brothers sisters from Africa .
However, Vietnamese and Cambodians are closer relatives than Chinese.
We are brothers and sisters dozens of thousands of years ago.
At that time, people in Vietnam and China are tribes without a nation.
The Chinese came to Vietnam only 2 or 3 thousands of years ago.
It does not means that a person can say "Vietnamese = Chinese + Cambodian"
This reasoning and thinking is some kind of low self esteem.
About skin color: The Chinese have brighter and lighter skin than the Vietnamese.
You are more correct saying about the face, the eye lids, and body built.
However, Vietnamese and Cambodians are closer relatives than Chinese.
We are brothers and sisters dozens of thousands of years ago.
At that time, people in Vietnam and China are tribes without a nation.
The Chinese came to Vietnam only 2 or 3 thousands of years ago.
It does not means that a person can say "Vietnamese = Chinese + Cambodian"
This reasoning and thinking is some kind of low self esteem.
About skin color: The Chinese have brighter and lighter skin than the Vietnamese.
You are more correct saying about the face, the eye lids, and body built.
i personally thinks that all asian from the lower part of asia is decendent of the chinese ppls because we we were in china before where were moved down to the lower part of asia so when we develop our own country we became that....
for me i think i'm a little chinses..since my last name is chinses cuz i don't see a lot of hmong ppls with my last name...
for me i think i'm a little chinses..since my last name is chinses cuz i don't see a lot of hmong ppls with my last name...
QUOTE (neinei @ Nov 1 2005, 10:32 AM)
viet and han are different, but viet can be considered a lost yeuh tribe that never assimiliated into the Han
as for viet being cambodian, NO...we are in noway related to them, we didnt even have contact with them since Champa was blocking our way til 1300's, but i have done some research, and i see alot of cambodians say that china and and cambodia are long lost blood brothers
as for viet being cambodian, NO...we are in noway related to them, we didnt even have contact with them since Champa was blocking our way til 1300's, but i have done some research, and i see alot of cambodians say that china and and cambodia are long lost blood brothers
no khmer would say that $hit, we have our own identity and history, we dont need to leetch on to the chinese so we have something to glorify about. stop making up bull$hit, the people that would say those things are sino khmers. if you want to be chinese then go ahead neinei but dont bring khmer people into your poor excuse for an argument.
QUOTE (caterina_xc @ Nov 1 2005, 12:39 PM)
i personally thinks that all asian from the lower part of asia is decendent of the chinese ppls because we we were in china before where were moved down to the lower part of asia so when we develop our own country we became that....
for me i think i'm a little chinses..since my last name is chinses cuz i don't see a lot of hmong ppls with my last name...
for me i think i'm a little chinses..since my last name is chinses cuz i don't see a lot of hmong ppls with my last name...
hahahaha, are you stupid or something?
QUOTE (bandsoulja @ Nov 1 2005, 12:53 PM)
QUOTE (caterina_xc @ Nov 1 2005, 12:39 PM)
i personally thinks that all asian from the lower part of asia is decendent of the chinese ppls because we we were in china before where were moved down to the lower part of asia so when we develop our own country we became that....
for me i think i'm a little chinses..since my last name is chinses cuz i don't see a lot of hmong ppls with my last name...
for me i think i'm a little chinses..since my last name is chinses cuz i don't see a lot of hmong ppls with my last name...
hahahaha, are you stupid or something?
He does not know that in Human Evolution, people travel from Africa to South
Asia first, then travel northward to China later. He is actually ignorant rather
than stupid . He need some guidance and courage rather than to be blamed.
What is so good about Viet Nam culture or history that the Chinese want to claim it? There got to be something that people want. What is it?
han evolved from north , cambodian evolved from south , thai and laos migrated from southern china and moved west.
uhhh so viet just appeared out of nowhere?
uhhh so viet just appeared out of nowhere?
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 01:23 PM)
What is so good about Viet Nam culture or history that the Chinese want to claim it? There got to be something that people want. What is it?
you know what we want? we want to remain unified and stay strong as one. you guys isolating yourselves is plain selfish to me , just like those taiwanese seperatist. why even go down that road instead of contribute to us as a whole together?
this guy posted similar in the korea chat. his first statements lack authority and maturity
theres also a identical thread on chinahistoryforum.com
http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php?showtopic=7396
Vietnamese people are lost han chinese ?
http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php?showtopic=7396
Vietnamese people are lost han chinese ?
QUOTE (DavidChen @ Nov 1 2005, 01:26 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 01:23 PM)
What is so good about Viet Nam culture or history that the Chinese want to claim it? There got to be something that people want. What is it?
you know what we want? we want to remain unified and stay strong as one. you guys isolating yourselves is plain selfish to me , just like those taiwanese seperatist. why even go down that road instead of contribute to us as a whole together?
China is now trying to reclaim Viet Nam by claiming that Viet Nam culture, people and history is Chinese from the start to now. Is this really the history of Viet Nam and China or just you people, a small minority.
Most Chinese people are good people who mind their own business and not trying to be greedy and claiming everything is their. Is this the greed of the Chinese people or it is just you, trouble-makers, a small minority.
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 01:33 PM)
QUOTE (DavidChen @ Nov 1 2005, 01:26 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 01:23 PM)
What is so good about Viet Nam culture or history that the Chinese want to claim it? There got to be something that people want. What is it?
you know what we want? we want to remain unified and stay strong as one. you guys isolating yourselves is plain selfish to me , just like those taiwanese seperatist. why even go down that road instead of contribute to us as a whole together?
China is now trying to reclaim Viet Nam by claiming that Viet Nam culture, people and history is Chinese from the start to now. Is this really the history of Viet Nam and China or just you people, a small minority.
Most Chinese people are good people who mind their own business and not trying to be greedy and claiming everything is their. Is this the greed of the Chinese people or it is just you, trouble-makers, a small minority.
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Having a bad history doesn't mean that one is not han chinese. It is just like taiwan's relationship with china now, they want to be a separate nation but the taiwanese are still han chinese in terms of culture, looks and language.
It could be that the han chinese doesn't know that the vietnamese are blood brothers ? Judging by so many similarities between han chinese and vietnamese - culture, looks, language etc. that china cannot share with other ethnic groups such as the mongolians or xinjiang people.
I remember somewhere that there was a chinese general with surname of "nguyen" who controlled the nam viet region after the tang dynasty collapsed (before the collapse, he was a chinese working for the government), are all those vietnamese with surname of "nguyen" his descendents ? Nguyen is the largest surname in vietnam.
It could be that the han chinese doesn't know that the vietnamese are blood brothers ? Judging by so many similarities between han chinese and vietnamese - culture, looks, language etc. that china cannot share with other ethnic groups such as the mongolians or xinjiang people.
I remember somewhere that there was a chinese general with surname of "nguyen" who controlled the nam viet region after the tang dynasty collapsed (before the collapse, he was a chinese working for the government), are all those vietnamese with surname of "nguyen" his descendents ? Nguyen is the largest surname in vietnam.
Sure you can all be buddies 
but just stay the hell away from Vietnam and dont come close to us...if you want to contact us then use the phone or any digital means...dont write us letter we dont wanna catch your cooties 
but just stay the hell away from Vietnam and dont come close to us...if you want to contact us then use the phone or any digital means...dont write us letter we dont wanna catch your cooties
Yes . Most Chinese think Chinese is Chinese, Vietnamese is Vietnamese .
Some Chinese like Chen wants to make history, to make the Chinese the
center of the world, if not the center of Asia.
Here's the answer to Chen's question:
The Vietnamese is not coming from nowhere.
The Vietnamese is in Vietnam since human traveled from Africa to Vietnam
hundred thousands of years ago, before they came to China.
Please, be educated by studying History of Human being on earth.
You have a strange idea in mind: "People should come from China."
Some Chinese like Chen wants to make history, to make the Chinese the
center of the world, if not the center of Asia.
Here's the answer to Chen's question:
The Vietnamese is not coming from nowhere.
The Vietnamese is in Vietnam since human traveled from Africa to Vietnam
hundred thousands of years ago, before they came to China.
Please, be educated by studying History of Human being on earth.
You have a strange idea in mind: "People should come from China."
davidchen is an embrrasment to all chinese people
QUOTE (CoDep @ Nov 1 2005, 01:54 PM)
The Vietnamese is not coming from nowhere.
The Vietnamese is in Vietnam since human traveled from Africa to Vietnam
hundred thousands of years ago, before they came to China.
The Vietnamese is in Vietnam since human traveled from Africa to Vietnam
hundred thousands of years ago, before they came to China.
oh thanks , you explained everything!!!! lol
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Please, be educated by studying History of Human being on earth.
You have a strange idea in mind: "People should come from China."
You have a strange idea in mind: "People should come from China."
do you even know where some of your surnames come from?
Nguyễn: 阮
Trần: 陳
Lê (or occasionally among Vietnamese of Cantonese decent, Lại): 黎
Phạm: 范 (almost exclusively a northern surname)
The other nine most common names are as follows, in no particular order:
Ngô: 吳
Lư: 李
Đỗ: 杜
Vũ (in northern or central regions) or Vơ (in central or southern regions): 武
Hoàng (in northern or central regions) or Huỳnh (in central or southern regions): 黄
Phan (almost exclusively found in southern regions): 潘
Dương: 楊
Đao:
Đặng: 鄧
Vương: 王
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
Vietnamese used to be written like Chinese!!
QUOTE (CoDep @ Nov 1 2005, 02:18 PM)
QUOTE (bandsoulja @ Nov 1 2005, 12:53 PM)
QUOTE (caterina_xc @ Nov 1 2005, 12:39 PM)
i personally thinks that all asian from the lower part of asia is decendent of the chinese ppls because we we were in china before where were moved down to the lower part of asia so when we develop our own country we became that....
for me i think i'm a little chinses..since my last name is chinses cuz i don't see a lot of hmong ppls with my last name...
for me i think i'm a little chinses..since my last name is chinses cuz i don't see a lot of hmong ppls with my last name...
hahahaha, are you stupid or something?
He does not know that in Human Evolution, people travel from Africa to South
Asia first, then travel northward to China later. He is actually ignorant rather
than stupid . He need some guidance and courage rather than to be blamed.
Cate is a girl not a boy
2 but what she said does seem kinda 
people actually take DavidChen for being serious <?> this ni-gga is a joke, he doesnt know jack sh!t. And should shut the fu-ck up cuz u know for sure u aint gonna talk sh!t to a Viet person in real life
Q57 make this thread in the korean chat also, and it got closed why didnt they close down this thread
Answer your question about Vietnamese family names:
Ancient Vietnamese have no written language.
When the Chinese came to Vietnam about 2 thousand years ago,
they taught their written language and Chinese characters. They
also called the Vietnamese names in Chinese, writting the Vietnamese
names in Chinese characters. Then the ancient Vietnamese learnt
Chinese, speaking Chinese with their own accent that the Chinese
cannot understand, and even pronouncing Chinese characters in
pure Vietnamese. That is the reason the Vietnamese names can be
written in Chinese characters, and can be read in either of the 3 ways:
pure Chinese accent, Chinese with Vietnamese accent, and pure
Vietnamese sound.
There is one thing you may need to know:
There are thousands of thousands of Chinese who have migrated
and stayed in Vietnam since then . However, there are only few
Chinese who can speak Chinese, and remember the old place in
China their parents come from. So, physically, many Vietnamese
nowadays may be Chinese, but spiritually, they are Vietnamese .
These Chinese have lost their own identity, and put on the identity
of local people who accepted them and loved them as brothers and
sisters.
In the world of human being, there are always good people who
think positively about people, and bad people who think negatively.
Ancient Vietnamese have no written language.
When the Chinese came to Vietnam about 2 thousand years ago,
they taught their written language and Chinese characters. They
also called the Vietnamese names in Chinese, writting the Vietnamese
names in Chinese characters. Then the ancient Vietnamese learnt
Chinese, speaking Chinese with their own accent that the Chinese
cannot understand, and even pronouncing Chinese characters in
pure Vietnamese. That is the reason the Vietnamese names can be
written in Chinese characters, and can be read in either of the 3 ways:
pure Chinese accent, Chinese with Vietnamese accent, and pure
Vietnamese sound.
There is one thing you may need to know:
There are thousands of thousands of Chinese who have migrated
and stayed in Vietnam since then . However, there are only few
Chinese who can speak Chinese, and remember the old place in
China their parents come from. So, physically, many Vietnamese
nowadays may be Chinese, but spiritually, they are Vietnamese .
These Chinese have lost their own identity, and put on the identity
of local people who accepted them and loved them as brothers and
sisters.
In the world of human being, there are always good people who
think positively about people, and bad people who think negatively.
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
QUOTE (CoDep @ Nov 1 2005, 02:12 PM)
Answer your question about Vietnamese family names:
Ancient Vietnamese have no written language.
When the Chinese came to Vietnam about 2 thousand years ago,
they taught their written language and Chinese characters. They
also called the Vietnamese names in Chinese, writting the Vietnamese
names in Chinese characters. Then the ancient Vietnamese learnt
Chinese, speaking Chinese with their own accent that the Chinese
cannot understand, and even pronouncing Chinese characters in
pure Vietnamese. That is the reason the Vietnamese names can be
written in Chinese characters, and can be read in either of the 3 ways:
pure Chinese accent, Chinese with Vietnamese accent, and pure
Vietnamese sound.
There is one thing you may need to know:
There are thousands of thousands of Chinese who have migrated
and stayed in Vietnam since then . However, there are only few
Chinese who can speak Chinese, and remember the old place in
China their parents come from. So, physically, many Vietnamese
nowadays may be Chinese, but spiritually, they are Vietnamese .
These Chinese have lost their own identity, and put on the identity
of local people who accepted them and loved them as brothers and
sisters.
In the world of human being, there are always good people who
think positively about people, and bad people who think negatively.
Ancient Vietnamese have no written language.
When the Chinese came to Vietnam about 2 thousand years ago,
they taught their written language and Chinese characters. They
also called the Vietnamese names in Chinese, writting the Vietnamese
names in Chinese characters. Then the ancient Vietnamese learnt
Chinese, speaking Chinese with their own accent that the Chinese
cannot understand, and even pronouncing Chinese characters in
pure Vietnamese. That is the reason the Vietnamese names can be
written in Chinese characters, and can be read in either of the 3 ways:
pure Chinese accent, Chinese with Vietnamese accent, and pure
Vietnamese sound.
There is one thing you may need to know:
There are thousands of thousands of Chinese who have migrated
and stayed in Vietnam since then . However, there are only few
Chinese who can speak Chinese, and remember the old place in
China their parents come from. So, physically, many Vietnamese
nowadays may be Chinese, but spiritually, they are Vietnamese .
These Chinese have lost their own identity, and put on the identity
of local people who accepted them and loved them as brothers and
sisters.
In the world of human being, there are always good people who
think positively about people, and bad people who think negatively.
May be they just don't want to associate with the painful past that they left behind?
QUOTE (CoDep @ Nov 1 2005, 02:12 PM)
Answer your question about Vietnamese family names:
Ancient Vietnamese have no written language.
When the Chinese came to Vietnam about 2 thousand years ago,
they taught their written language and Chinese characters. They
also called the Vietnamese names in Chinese, writting the Vietnamese
names in Chinese characters. Then the ancient Vietnamese learnt
Chinese, speaking Chinese with their own accent that the Chinese
cannot understand, and even pronouncing Chinese characters in
pure Vietnamese. That is the reason the Vietnamese names can be
written in Chinese characters, and can be read in either of the 3 ways:
pure Chinese accent, Chinese with Vietnamese accent, and pure
Vietnamese sound.
There is one thing you may need to know:
There are thousands of thousands of Chinese who have migrated
and stayed in Vietnam since then . However, there are only few
Chinese who can speak Chinese, and remember the old place in
China their parents come from. So, physically, many Vietnamese
nowadays may be Chinese, but spiritually, they are Vietnamese .
These Chinese have lost their own identity, and put on the identity
of local people who accepted them and loved them as brothers and
sisters.
In the world of human being, there are always good people who
think positively about people, and bad people who think negatively.
Ancient Vietnamese have no written language.
When the Chinese came to Vietnam about 2 thousand years ago,
they taught their written language and Chinese characters. They
also called the Vietnamese names in Chinese, writting the Vietnamese
names in Chinese characters. Then the ancient Vietnamese learnt
Chinese, speaking Chinese with their own accent that the Chinese
cannot understand, and even pronouncing Chinese characters in
pure Vietnamese. That is the reason the Vietnamese names can be
written in Chinese characters, and can be read in either of the 3 ways:
pure Chinese accent, Chinese with Vietnamese accent, and pure
Vietnamese sound.
There is one thing you may need to know:
There are thousands of thousands of Chinese who have migrated
and stayed in Vietnam since then . However, there are only few
Chinese who can speak Chinese, and remember the old place in
China their parents come from. So, physically, many Vietnamese
nowadays may be Chinese, but spiritually, they are Vietnamese .
These Chinese have lost their own identity, and put on the identity
of local people who accepted them and loved them as brothers and
sisters.
In the world of human being, there are always good people who
think positively about people, and bad people who think negatively.
i can understand that to a point , but how can you be spiritually vietnamese if you worship chinese dietys. that just contradicts itself.
That is the same as worshipping Buddha!
Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
Does the Chinese know where they came from, human evolution or God made?
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
Does the Chinese know where they came from, human evolution or God made?
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
north west of mongolia
QUOTE (RiDer oN ThE RoAd @ Nov 1 2005, 02:21 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Nov 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
Why don't we ask where does China come from???
Wee, what is the answer to this, from the ground, stones, trees?
north west of mongolia
I know but it is evolution or God made??
What is the main religion in China, Buddhism, Communism, Daoism??
Whoops, communism is not a religion or is it? Does it have a religion?
QUOTE (PhoShizzle @ Nov 1 2005, 02:12 PM)
Q57 make this thread in the korean chat also, and it got closed why didnt they close down this thread
report it if you do not wish this thread to continue
No, it is constructive so far!
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