Only "miracle" can save teacher beaten by Muslim mob
BANGKOK, Thailand -- A Buddhist teacher who was beaten into a coma by a mob demanding the release of Islamic insurgents has only a slim chance of survival, her doctor said Saturday.
Juling Kamphongmoon sustained severe injuries, including blood clots in her brain, when she was beaten by Muslim villagers Friday who were holding two other women teachers hostage at a government school in southern Thailand.
More than 200 villagers surrounded the school in Narathiwat province to demand the release of two suspected Muslim rebels arrested earlier the same day in connection with the killing of two marines.
"There is slim chance that she will survive. I would like to urge Thais throughout the country to pray for a miracle to happen to Juling," Dr. Sumet Phirawut told a news conference.
The hostages were held about three hours before being released. Another teacher was slightly injured in the protest.
Last September, villagers in the same district held hostage two marines who were stabbed to death. The villagers believed that they had been involved in the killing of two of their fellow residents at a village teashop. Police have arrested dozens people in connection with the killings.
More than 1,300 people have been killed in violence in the south since a separatist movement flared in January 2004. The country's three southernmost provinces of Narathiwat, Yala and Pattani are the only Muslim-majority areas in Thailand, which is predominantly Buddhist.
Southerners have long complained of mistreatment by authorities and discrimination, especially in jobs and education. (AP)
May 20, 2006
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It happen again. I dont know how Thai Malay hate Thai like this. Sorry to say that I think that it is because PAS party is the one bad mouthing Thai. I dont intend to insult any one. But I think our goverment really need to sitdown and talk. Thai Gov really need to work together with PAS to improve d relationship between Thai and Malay in d border.
PS: I jst quote this news from Thai serious talk ,It really bad espacially when the teachers were dragged past the mosque and one bother to help her.
Full Version: Your opinion on Kelentan state goverment?
It will take time for violence in Southern Thailand to abate but it is good that the number of violence is not as frequent as before. People are still angry over the death of Muslim protesters in the Tak Bai incident and it will take some years before that incident is forgotten and people carry on with their life.
As for PAS, I dunno whether they have anything to do with the violence, although they may have criticized the Thai authorities a lot .But if PAS supports such violence, Malaysia would have experienced the same situation as in Southern Thailand a long time ago.
As for PAS, I dunno whether they have anything to do with the violence, although they may have criticized the Thai authorities a lot .But if PAS supports such violence, Malaysia would have experienced the same situation as in Southern Thailand a long time ago.
The local muslim in border already lost their faith on Thai gov ,they listen to Msia side more ,many of them cant even speak Thai. They watch Msia media and I guess the local news paper which sale in Kelantan is also read by Thai southerner. So the opinion from Msia side is really a big deal for the peace in the southern part of Thailand.
Dun worry, Malaysia is not interested in receving extra poor states if that's what you are worried about.
Thailand should jumpstart economic activities in Southern Thailand, give them jobs and economic incentives. People usually rebel coz of economic hardship(which could be hijacked by radicals to propagate their ideals), I mean in 1997, the Soeharto government collapsed and even the Mahathir government was threatened when the economy collapsed. If people have jobs, they fall in line.
One reason the BN government in Malaysia is stabil is because of economic prosperity, people in Malaysia are more interested working for money, and not really into changing status quo. Meanwhile in Indonesia , the provinces of Irian Jaya and Acheh seek independence because they claim Jakarta is sucking their land's resources, the same in the Philippines with their impoverished Mindanao.Jakarta reacted to the Irian Jaya problem by announcing long term plans develop the province. So the solution to Southern Thailand is more concerned with the development of those states, because I hear the poverty there is bad . But it may be more complicated than that.
My 2 sen opinion.
Thailand should jumpstart economic activities in Southern Thailand, give them jobs and economic incentives. People usually rebel coz of economic hardship(which could be hijacked by radicals to propagate their ideals), I mean in 1997, the Soeharto government collapsed and even the Mahathir government was threatened when the economy collapsed. If people have jobs, they fall in line.
One reason the BN government in Malaysia is stabil is because of economic prosperity, people in Malaysia are more interested working for money, and not really into changing status quo. Meanwhile in Indonesia , the provinces of Irian Jaya and Acheh seek independence because they claim Jakarta is sucking their land's resources, the same in the Philippines with their impoverished Mindanao.Jakarta reacted to the Irian Jaya problem by announcing long term plans develop the province. So the solution to Southern Thailand is more concerned with the development of those states, because I hear the poverty there is bad . But it may be more complicated than that.
My 2 sen opinion.
@AERO:
if you can, try to find this movie... get your Msian friend to buy it for you. It's a small budget, independent Malay movie revolving around a Malay community in southern thailand. It's directed by an arty if somewhat controversial director U-Wei Shaari. It's got nothing directly related to the problems with the Thai authorities. In fact it's merely about Malay villagers at odds with each other over a cow fight. (Jogho is the Pattani/Kelantan pronounciation of Juara, which means "champion" in Malay). The acting and background is very authentic and realistic. The nuances of the life of southern Thai Malay-Muslims are captured very subtly and beautifully and are instructive on how they view the Thai policemen and their own family members who live across the border, who just happened to have the "right papers" ie Malaysian identity cards. The extras were made up of local southern Thai Malay villagers; the movie was shot in Thailand. Their lives are worlds apart from those of us who come from the urban centres of Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok.
if you can, try to find this movie... get your Msian friend to buy it for you. It's a small budget, independent Malay movie revolving around a Malay community in southern thailand. It's directed by an arty if somewhat controversial director U-Wei Shaari. It's got nothing directly related to the problems with the Thai authorities. In fact it's merely about Malay villagers at odds with each other over a cow fight. (Jogho is the Pattani/Kelantan pronounciation of Juara, which means "champion" in Malay). The acting and background is very authentic and realistic. The nuances of the life of southern Thai Malay-Muslims are captured very subtly and beautifully and are instructive on how they view the Thai policemen and their own family members who live across the border, who just happened to have the "right papers" ie Malaysian identity cards. The extras were made up of local southern Thai Malay villagers; the movie was shot in Thailand. Their lives are worlds apart from those of us who come from the urban centres of Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok.
QUOTE(malaccan @ May 22 2006, 04:05 PM) [snapback]1875359[/snapback]
@AERO:
if you can, try to find this movie... get your Msian friend to buy it for you. It's a small budget, independent Malay movie revolving around a Malay community in southern thailand. It's directed by an arty if somewhat controversial director U-Wei Shaari. It's got nothing directly related to the problems with the Thai authorities. In fact it's merely about Malay villagers at odds with each other over a cow fight. (Jogho is the Pattani/Kelantan pronounciation of Juara, which means "champion" in Malay). The acting and background is very authentic and realistic. The nuances of the life of southern Thai Malay-Muslims are captured very subtly and beautifully and are instructive on how they view the Thai policemen and their own family members who live across the border, who just happened to have the "right papers" ie Malaysian identity cards. The extras were made up of local southern Thai Malay villagers; the movie was shot in Thailand. Their lives are worlds apart from those of us who come from the urban centres of Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok.
I like U-Wei's fim. Malaccan, if I'm not mistaken, the 'Jogho' film was produced & funded by Japanese sources, not from FINAS, right?
You'll never know whether that Malay is from Kelantan or Pattani because both of them speak the same language.
Anyways,I agree that both Pantai Timur and Pak Tai are nice place.
Beautiful beaches and islands!
Ahh...lovely!
Anyways,I agree that both Pantai Timur and Pak Tai are nice place.
Beautiful beaches and islands!
Ahh...lovely!
ehem ehem... talking about my homeland here???
QUOTE(Protoculture @ May 23 2006, 05:48 AM) [snapback]1876677[/snapback]
I like U-Wei's fim. Malaccan, if I'm not mistaken, the 'Jogho' film was produced & funded by Japanese sources, not from FINAS, right?
Yeah, it was part;y funded by NHK.
I heard d news about d local goverment will reward those PORNOR teacher who married with the local non muslim with 100,000RM and a car. Am I right?
i think not... u think pas that rich wanna give 100,000RM... 100rm already hard for them
^
Its just their way to gain poppular
Its just their way to gain poppular
QUOTE(AEROFORCE1 @ May 22 2006, 09:45 AM) [snapback]1874425[/snapback]
The local muslim in border already lost their faith on Thai gov ,they listen to Msia side more ,many of them cant even speak Thai. They watch Msia media and I guess the local news paper which sale in Kelantan is also read by Thai southerner. So the opinion from Msia side is really a big deal for the peace in the southern part of Thailand.
We have a lot Malaysian that cannot speak Malay here... No big deal....
I'm as Malaysian always hope peace for Southern Thai....
Hope it will come soon...
As for Kelantan State govt... It will be better for time to come because Kelantan Govt. was well managed now...
the only good thing about PAS in Kelantan is Nik Aziz...he is a good man. But his followers and party and the ruling govt....unfortunately is not.
as for the people....believe me Kelantanese people are not poor, they are pretty bunch lot self entrepreneur sort. Development I see are fast coming up and all these are not from PAS...its from the people ...the kelantanese people
As for sam, buying lunch at 1.80....sorry I cannot agree....may be in one remote kampung you can get that price....or may be during breakfast....yes..kelantanese people eat rice in the morning...nasi dagang, nasi belauk, nasi kapit, nasi kerabu...oh I miss home sweet home
as for the people....believe me Kelantanese people are not poor, they are pretty bunch lot self entrepreneur sort. Development I see are fast coming up and all these are not from PAS...its from the people ...the kelantanese people
As for sam, buying lunch at 1.80....sorry I cannot agree....may be in one remote kampung you can get that price....or may be during breakfast....yes..kelantanese people eat rice in the morning...nasi dagang, nasi belauk, nasi kapit, nasi kerabu...oh I miss home sweet home
QUOTE(ricochet @ Dec 12 2006, 10:36 AM) [snapback]2563762[/snapback]
the only good thing about PAS in Kelantan is Nik Aziz...he is a good man. But his followers and party and the ruling govt....unfortunately is not.
as for the people....believe me Kelantanese people are not poor, they are pretty bunch lot self entrepreneur sort. Development I see are fast coming up and all these are not from PAS...its from the people ...the kelantanese people
As for sam, buying lunch at 1.80....sorry I cannot agree....may be in one remote kampung you can get that price....or may be during breakfast....yes..kelantanese people eat rice in the morning...nasi dagang, nasi belauk, nasi kapit, nasi kerabu...oh I miss home sweet home
Good point. Nanti kawe belanjo demo make nasik. Pilihla nasik ngapo pung bereh belako...
QUOTE(Betong @ Dec 13 2006, 04:13 PM) [snapback]2565885[/snapback]
Good point. Nanti kawe belanjo demo make nasik. Pilihla nasik ngapo pung bereh belako...
oh thank you bear! .... nasi kukuh kebojo at jale kebung sulte sedak nyor
mek wok nasik 8ya so, xdop ore buat agis... aye sajo nasik xdop... hahaha
Aye sajo buak nate ngapo. Aye seko 8ya doh. Baik beli aye seko....
Mano tuh gu...
Mano tuh gu...
QUOTE(Betong @ Dec 15 2006, 04:25 PM) [snapback]2572149[/snapback]
Aye sajo buak nate ngapo. Aye seko 8ya doh. Baik beli aye seko....
Mano tuh gu...
where got lar....usually around $4.50 per pack....juz this month I was back guys
It's adopting an 'open' policy, I heard. And there's been improvements both socially and politically. They're being less restrictive and hardcore the way they were before.
If they continue on with this PAS is surely going to gain a stronger foothold in Kelantan and probably reclaim Terengganu.
If they continue on with this PAS is surely going to gain a stronger foothold in Kelantan and probably reclaim Terengganu.
Both credit should go to state govt. and federal govt. because of less politicking when decided whatever matter. In kelantan, federal govt impose very strict rule for all contractor to make sure the federal project follow the standard procedure especially in rural area where BN have their influance.
Kelantan govt also let private sector to lead the sector that can driven local economy especially bussiness, hotel.....
Since Kelantan now 50% BN and 50% Pas, whoever want to win next general election should promote better managing plan to the state so the state can no longer depend everything to Federal Govt...
I especially like Pulau Pinang model where they depending less to federal govt and let private sector driven state economy
Kelantan govt also let private sector to lead the sector that can driven local economy especially bussiness, hotel.....
Since Kelantan now 50% BN and 50% Pas, whoever want to win next general election should promote better managing plan to the state so the state can no longer depend everything to Federal Govt...
I especially like Pulau Pinang model where they depending less to federal govt and let private sector driven state economy
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