http://www.thanhniennews.com/commentaries/...11&newsid=10258
Many overseas Vietnamese living in Australia have written in to Thanh Nien, expressing their emotions after watching the opening performance of the Charming Vietnam Gala October 31 in Canberra.
Reproduced below is one of them:
Legend has it that all Vietnamese were born from the same mother, Au Co, who laid 100 eggs, from which 100 persons came out. Half of them went up to the jungle while the rest down into the sea. But wherever they are, they remain siblings forever…
It’s half past 11 now. I’m just back from the first Charming Vietnam [Duyen Dang Vietnam] performance, overwhelmed by emotion. I cannot help jotting down my feelings which are pouring out…
Elation and admiration are running in my veins. I lost [myself] in the world of traditional and pop music and ao dai [traditional Vietnamese women’s costume], which I have not heard or seen for ages… I was like a hungry child who had found its mother’s teat. Filled with pride, I would like to say to the Chinese lady and the Australian man sitting next to me that they were lucky to enjoy [the] well-prepared feast of Vietnamese culture.
It seems it was not only I who had such feelings. I saw the whole audience stayed on, giving thunderous ovations even after the show ended, their eyes and smiles filled with pride, trust, and admiration.
However, enormous disappointment, frustration, and anguish are tormenting me. It extinguishes the exultation of the child who has just found its mother’s teat and forces an adult’s thoughts in me. I realize it is the voice of a Vietnamese deep inside my heart:
My dear compatriots who were among those demonstrating outside the Canberra Theater this afternoon.
I’m one of those whom you stopped and said: ‘Go home now, what’s the point in watching such things? What a disgrace!’ Some even thrust a camera close to my face. Please give me an explanation for hurling such insults at your own compatriots and invasions of their privacy.
Why should I be ashamed to watch a program which features music, culture and traditional costume from my home country? Why should I feel humiliated when supporting my country’s promotion of culture and music abroad so that people around the world see the new images, not just the devastation from the war 30 years ago? It is a task worth the effort of all Vietnamese, isn’t it?
While the artists and organizers traveled such a long distance and made every effort to help Australians appreciate Vietnam’s cultural identity more, you were displaying to foreigners images of a divisive Vietnam and its extreme, riotous nature. Even the Aborigines did not act so when they clashed with the Australian government. You also committed such shameful acts as scratching spectators’ cars and threatening restaurants which served the performers.
I did not feel ashamed about joining the show, but I felt disgraced by your actions. Peter Slipper, chair of the Vietnam-Australia Friendship Senators Association stressed in his speech he felt sorry about those who voiced their different political views violently. He believed we are lucky to live in an era in which all differences can be reconciled and all disputes settled. Only short-sighted people behave that way.
I don’t think what I’m writing is political. I simply articulate what my peers and I think. I was born and grew up in Vietnam and have been looking for opportunities to succeed in an overseas working environment. Some of my friends came here [Australia] when they were young, some were born here and do not speak fluent Vietnamese. But what we have in common is we were born after the war ended and all wish to help Vietnam catch up with the world.
For us, Vietnam has no internal borders or different political regimes. We understand all nations have their own agonies. Our country has already suffered a great deal from the war; so what is the point in further aggravating its wounds, preventing it from making up for the wasted wartime years and catching up with the rest of the world?
I really hope we will put aside all our pains and past feuds to turn over a new page to create a thriving country, because we all were born to the same mother, Au Co. Wherever we are, we will always remain brothers and sisters.
I’ll keep praying and hoping for that.
Full Version: An anguished overseas Vietnamese calls for burying
I absolutely agree with this article. We don't need to keep being reminded of the war.. it's over! What we ALL (Vietnamese in Vietnam and aboard) need to do is to help Vietnam prosper and regain the glory it once had. Vietnam use to be called 'The Tiger of Asia'.. so we have to stick together and help each other for the good of our country. At least we still have a country to come home to.
I don't think Vietnam have a bright future with the Communist is in control.
I don't know.. but from what I see so far.. Vietnam is progressing steadily each year and making noticable advances in technology and many other areas.. yet it's still a Communist country. I think the Communist now isn't really the same as the Communist in the past. Hopefully as the old dies out and the young takes over there will be more progress and change.
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Nov 8 2005, 02:40 PM)
There was also one Vietnamese who lives in Australia, she wrote to the Canberra Times after this paper had one article about the protest in Canberra.
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Bich Phan
Wednesday, 2 November 2005
2 November 2005
Dear Editor
Thank you for your article on Canberra Times, Wed 2 November 2005: Human rights protesters find no 'charm' in visit by Vietnamese artists, by
HMusa.
You might have been invited to or heard about this week's concerts organised by the Vietnamese authorities, called "Charming Vietnam Gala". This event is purportedly a celebration of 60th year totalitarian rule of an unelected, oppressive, and corrupt regime of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam (the SRV).
Vietnam is and remains a single party state ruthlessly ruled and controlled by the Communist Party of Vietnam. The regime has been identified as one of the most corrupt in the Asia Pacific (www.transparency.org) and continues to regularly imprison religious leaders, journalists and writers (Human Rights Watch: www.hrw.org).
In Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index 2005, Vietnam was ranked 107th out of 159 countries. We believe that a high proportion of precious Australian taxpayers' moneys (our annual aid of 77 million dollars to Vietnam) would be found wasted by independent and objective audits. We are calling on the Joint Committee on Public Affairs and Audits and the Foreign Affairs Minister to review Australian aid to Vietnam, and would like to ask for your support in this matter.
This is also a regime which in the past has shown disrespect to the international communities by repeatedly breaching international treaties it has signed (e.g. the 1954 Geneva Accord, the 1973 Paris Accord, the 1994 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights...)
The Communist regime exercises control over every aspect of religion. Religious organisations not under the regime's direct control are outlawed, their leaders harrassed or imprisoned. The outlawed Unified Buddhist Church of Vietnam's Supreme Patriarch, Thich Huyen Quang and its second-ranking leader Thich Quang Do have been confined to their monasteries for years. Members of the Mennonite Church have also come under fire in recent years, its leader the Pastor Nguyen Hong Quang was imprisoned in 2004 for calling on the regime to allow freedom of religion. The Roman Catholic Church's clergy recruitment, appointment and ordination processes are under strict control, and have to be endorsed by the government.
There is no independent, privately run media in Vietnam. Foreign media representatives are required to obtain authorisation from the Foreign Ministry for all travel outside Hanoi. Journalists and writers are regularly rounded up and imprisoned on false charges including Pham Hong Son, Nguyen Khac Toan, Nguyen Vu Binh... just to name a few.
The purpose of this so-called "Charming Vietnam Gala" is to spread propaganda, and by painting a beautiful image of the regime, the SRV seeks to deceive the Australian government and Australians taxpayers into providing them through aid and investments with more money which will ultimately end up in their pockets and which will be used by the regime to oppress ordinary and poor Vietnamese.
The Vietnamese Community in Australia will hold a public rally to protest against those propaganda concert and to expose to the Australian public the true corrupt and oppressive nature of the SRV.
We sincerely ask you to support our effort in demanding a non-corrupt, free and democratic Vietnam, and would appreciate if you could join us in our rallies to address the crowd or raise this matter in public forum.
Thank you and my regards
Bich Phan
Wednesday, 2 November 2005
2 November 2005
Dear Editor
Thank you for your article on Canberra Times, Wed 2 November 2005: Human rights protesters find no 'charm' in visit by Vietnamese artists, by
HMusa.
You might have been invited to or heard about this week's concerts organised by the Vietnamese authorities, called "Charming Vietnam Gala". This event is purportedly a celebration of 60th year totalitarian rule of an unelected, oppressive, and corrupt regime of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam (the SRV).
Vietnam is and remains a single party state ruthlessly ruled and controlled by the Communist Party of Vietnam. The regime has been identified as one of the most corrupt in the Asia Pacific (www.transparency.org) and continues to regularly imprison religious leaders, journalists and writers (Human Rights Watch: www.hrw.org).
In Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index 2005, Vietnam was ranked 107th out of 159 countries. We believe that a high proportion of precious Australian taxpayers' moneys (our annual aid of 77 million dollars to Vietnam) would be found wasted by independent and objective audits. We are calling on the Joint Committee on Public Affairs and Audits and the Foreign Affairs Minister to review Australian aid to Vietnam, and would like to ask for your support in this matter.
This is also a regime which in the past has shown disrespect to the international communities by repeatedly breaching international treaties it has signed (e.g. the 1954 Geneva Accord, the 1973 Paris Accord, the 1994 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights...)
The Communist regime exercises control over every aspect of religion. Religious organisations not under the regime's direct control are outlawed, their leaders harrassed or imprisoned. The outlawed Unified Buddhist Church of Vietnam's Supreme Patriarch, Thich Huyen Quang and its second-ranking leader Thich Quang Do have been confined to their monasteries for years. Members of the Mennonite Church have also come under fire in recent years, its leader the Pastor Nguyen Hong Quang was imprisoned in 2004 for calling on the regime to allow freedom of religion. The Roman Catholic Church's clergy recruitment, appointment and ordination processes are under strict control, and have to be endorsed by the government.
There is no independent, privately run media in Vietnam. Foreign media representatives are required to obtain authorisation from the Foreign Ministry for all travel outside Hanoi. Journalists and writers are regularly rounded up and imprisoned on false charges including Pham Hong Son, Nguyen Khac Toan, Nguyen Vu Binh... just to name a few.
The purpose of this so-called "Charming Vietnam Gala" is to spread propaganda, and by painting a beautiful image of the regime, the SRV seeks to deceive the Australian government and Australians taxpayers into providing them through aid and investments with more money which will ultimately end up in their pockets and which will be used by the regime to oppress ordinary and poor Vietnamese.
The Vietnamese Community in Australia will hold a public rally to protest against those propaganda concert and to expose to the Australian public the true corrupt and oppressive nature of the SRV.
We sincerely ask you to support our effort in demanding a non-corrupt, free and democratic Vietnam, and would appreciate if you could join us in our rallies to address the crowd or raise this matter in public forum.
Thank you and my regards
Bich Phan
QUOTE (Hungnho @ Nov 8 2005, 07:48 PM)
I don't think Vietnam have a bright future with the Communist is in control.
Viet Nam does not have a bright future because it is still divided, if 3 red lashes keep going at Hoho VCs and stop every betterment and unity attempt. But we still need someone to pressure Hoho VCs to change.
Therefore, we must bury 3 red lashes! We must know that this is how it all started and all keep on automation. Bury 3 red lashes!
..intresting... Good facts ZamienTRan!!
The three-stripes flag only makes commie look good...you should learn that by now...
I know Vietnam government propaganda but what about yellow and three-stripe propaganda?
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Nov 8 2005, 11:00 PM)
Viet Nam does not have a bright future because it is still divided, if 3 red lashes keep going at Hoho VCs and stop every betterment and unity attempt. But we still need someone to pressure Hoho VCs to change.
Therefore, we must bury 3 red lashes! We must know that this is how it all started and all keep on automation. Bury 3 red lashes!
Therefore, we must bury 3 red lashes! We must know that this is how it all started and all keep on automation. Bury 3 red lashes!
First of all, I love the article about Charming Vietnam Gala in Canberra.
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but...
"Viet Nam does not have a bright future because it is still divided"
2 ... That's a good one.Let's be frank here... VN is not a divided country to the Viets... Only a handful of delusional, vindictive, conceited ppl who don't have any stake in VN's interest still think like that... Most of them have already abandoned their nationality and have helped other countries brought miseries to Viets in VN.
Let's be very clear... VN's future is very bright... With or without any of those ppl who think that they are god's gift to Vietnamese ppl... Ask those ppl... What have they done to help other Viets in their community to get better jobs, better benefits, better houses, better future, better security, etc... Have any of them ever do any thing to reduce the Viets crime in their community?
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Let's be frank here... VN is not a divided country to the Viets... Only a handful of delusional, vindictive, conceited ppl who don't have any stake in VN's interest still think like that... Most of them have already abandoned their nationality and have helped other countries brought miseries to Viets in VN.
Yeah, like those who invited American soldiers to kill fellow Vietnamese, and those who supported American B-52 bombers to fly bombing raids on Vietnam. Death to all those people.
QUOTE (soro_i @ Nov 9 2005, 10:22 PM)
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Nov 8 2005, 11:00 PM)
Viet Nam does not have a bright future because it is still divided, if 3 red lashes keep going at Hoho VCs and stop every betterment and unity attempt. But we still need someone to pressure Hoho VCs to change.
Therefore, we must bury 3 red lashes! We must know that this is how it all started and all keep on automation. Bury 3 red lashes!
Therefore, we must bury 3 red lashes! We must know that this is how it all started and all keep on automation. Bury 3 red lashes!
First of all, I love the article about Charming Vietnam Gala in Canberra.
--
but...
"Viet Nam does not have a bright future because it is still divided"
2 ... That's a good one.Let's be frank here... VN is not a divided country to the Viets... Only a handful of delusional, vindictive, conceited ppl who don't have any stake in VN's interest still think like that... Most of them have already abandoned their nationality and have helped other countries brought miseries to Viets in VN.
Let's be very clear... VN's future is very bright... With or without any of those ppl who think that they are god's gift to Vietnamese ppl... Ask those ppl... What have they done to help other Viets in their community to get better jobs, better benefits, better houses, better future, better security, etc... Have any of them ever do any thing to reduce the Viets crime in their community?
you know nothing, shut up, and do me a favor and read this article from the australian
^
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Ja... Mein Fuehrer!!!
me know nothing...nothing!!!
me follow ze order...
Herr Spicy Arsch,
That's just another example of those Arsehole who are just too eager and too willing to step on other Viets and to mock their miseries so those Arschole can vent their vindictiveness toward the VN Gov't.
Watdafuking ARSCHOLE.
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Ja... Mein Fuehrer!!!
me know nothing...nothing!!!
me follow ze order...
Herr Spicy Arsch,
That's just another example of those Arsehole who are just too eager and too willing to step on other Viets and to mock their miseries so those Arschole can vent their vindictiveness toward the VN Gov't.
Watdafuking ARSCHOLE.
Fluch u!
Nein, Ich nicht speaking german!
VC go home!!!
Nein, Ich nicht speaking german!
VC go home!!!
^ dats some hardcore propaganda right there
which line?
all I know is, I support the reviews of the audits cause you know the VN gov't puts money that goes towards improvements to Vietnam in their own pockets...
all I know is, I support the reviews of the audits cause you know the VN gov't puts money that goes towards improvements to Vietnam in their own pockets...
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Nov 8 2005, 05:40 PM)
http://www.thanhniennews.com/commentaries/...11&newsid=10258
Many overseas Vietnamese living in Australia have written in to Thanh Nien, expressing their emotions after watching the opening performance of the Charming Vietnam Gala October 31 in Canberra.
Reproduced below is one of them:
Legend has it that all Vietnamese were born from the same mother, Au Co, who laid 100 eggs, from which 100 persons came out. Half of them went up to the jungle while the rest down into the sea. But wherever they are, they remain siblings forever…
It’s half past 11 now. I’m just back from the first Charming Vietnam [Duyen Dang Vietnam] performance, overwhelmed by emotion. I cannot help jotting down my feelings which are pouring out…
Elation and admiration are running in my veins. I lost [myself] in the world of traditional and pop music and ao dai [traditional Vietnamese women’s costume], which I have not heard or seen for ages… I was like a hungry child who had found its mother’s teat. Filled with pride, I would like to say to the Chinese lady and the Australian man sitting next to me that they were lucky to enjoy [the] well-prepared feast of Vietnamese culture.
It seems it was not only I who had such feelings. I saw the whole audience stayed on, giving thunderous ovations even after the show ended, their eyes and smiles filled with pride, trust, and admiration.
However, enormous disappointment, frustration, and anguish are tormenting me. It extinguishes the exultation of the child who has just found its mother’s teat and forces an adult’s thoughts in me. I realize it is the voice of a Vietnamese deep inside my heart:
My dear compatriots who were among those demonstrating outside the Canberra Theater this afternoon.
I’m one of those whom you stopped and said: ‘Go home now, what’s the point in watching such things? What a disgrace!’ Some even thrust a camera close to my face. Please give me an explanation for hurling such insults at your own compatriots and invasions of their privacy.
Why should I be ashamed to watch a program which features music, culture and traditional costume from my home country? Why should I feel humiliated when supporting my country’s promotion of culture and music abroad so that people around the world see the new images, not just the devastation from the war 30 years ago? It is a task worth the effort of all Vietnamese, isn’t it?
While the artists and organizers traveled such a long distance and made every effort to help Australians appreciate Vietnam’s cultural identity more, you were displaying to foreigners images of a divisive Vietnam and its extreme, riotous nature. Even the Aborigines did not act so when they clashed with the Australian government. You also committed such shameful acts as scratching spectators’ cars and threatening restaurants which served the performers.
I did not feel ashamed about joining the show, but I felt disgraced by your actions. Peter Slipper, chair of the Vietnam-Australia Friendship Senators Association stressed in his speech he felt sorry about those who voiced their different political views violently. He believed we are lucky to live in an era in which all differences can be reconciled and all disputes settled. Only short-sighted people behave that way.
I don’t think what I’m writing is political. I simply articulate what my peers and I think. I was born and grew up in Vietnam and have been looking for opportunities to succeed in an overseas working environment. Some of my friends came here [Australia] when they were young, some were born here and do not speak fluent Vietnamese. But what we have in common is we were born after the war ended and all wish to help Vietnam catch up with the world.
For us, Vietnam has no internal borders or different political regimes. We understand all nations have their own agonies. Our country has already suffered a great deal from the war; so what is the point in further aggravating its wounds, preventing it from making up for the wasted wartime years and catching up with the rest of the world?
I really hope we will put aside all our pains and past feuds to turn over a new page to create a thriving country, because we all were born to the same mother, Au Co. Wherever we are, we will always remain brothers and sisters.
I’ll keep praying and hoping for that.
Many overseas Vietnamese living in Australia have written in to Thanh Nien, expressing their emotions after watching the opening performance of the Charming Vietnam Gala October 31 in Canberra.
Reproduced below is one of them:
Legend has it that all Vietnamese were born from the same mother, Au Co, who laid 100 eggs, from which 100 persons came out. Half of them went up to the jungle while the rest down into the sea. But wherever they are, they remain siblings forever…
It’s half past 11 now. I’m just back from the first Charming Vietnam [Duyen Dang Vietnam] performance, overwhelmed by emotion. I cannot help jotting down my feelings which are pouring out…
Elation and admiration are running in my veins. I lost [myself] in the world of traditional and pop music and ao dai [traditional Vietnamese women’s costume], which I have not heard or seen for ages… I was like a hungry child who had found its mother’s teat. Filled with pride, I would like to say to the Chinese lady and the Australian man sitting next to me that they were lucky to enjoy [the] well-prepared feast of Vietnamese culture.
It seems it was not only I who had such feelings. I saw the whole audience stayed on, giving thunderous ovations even after the show ended, their eyes and smiles filled with pride, trust, and admiration.
However, enormous disappointment, frustration, and anguish are tormenting me. It extinguishes the exultation of the child who has just found its mother’s teat and forces an adult’s thoughts in me. I realize it is the voice of a Vietnamese deep inside my heart:
My dear compatriots who were among those demonstrating outside the Canberra Theater this afternoon.
I’m one of those whom you stopped and said: ‘Go home now, what’s the point in watching such things? What a disgrace!’ Some even thrust a camera close to my face. Please give me an explanation for hurling such insults at your own compatriots and invasions of their privacy.
Why should I be ashamed to watch a program which features music, culture and traditional costume from my home country? Why should I feel humiliated when supporting my country’s promotion of culture and music abroad so that people around the world see the new images, not just the devastation from the war 30 years ago? It is a task worth the effort of all Vietnamese, isn’t it?
While the artists and organizers traveled such a long distance and made every effort to help Australians appreciate Vietnam’s cultural identity more, you were displaying to foreigners images of a divisive Vietnam and its extreme, riotous nature. Even the Aborigines did not act so when they clashed with the Australian government. You also committed such shameful acts as scratching spectators’ cars and threatening restaurants which served the performers.
I did not feel ashamed about joining the show, but I felt disgraced by your actions. Peter Slipper, chair of the Vietnam-Australia Friendship Senators Association stressed in his speech he felt sorry about those who voiced their different political views violently. He believed we are lucky to live in an era in which all differences can be reconciled and all disputes settled. Only short-sighted people behave that way.
I don’t think what I’m writing is political. I simply articulate what my peers and I think. I was born and grew up in Vietnam and have been looking for opportunities to succeed in an overseas working environment. Some of my friends came here [Australia] when they were young, some were born here and do not speak fluent Vietnamese. But what we have in common is we were born after the war ended and all wish to help Vietnam catch up with the world.
For us, Vietnam has no internal borders or different political regimes. We understand all nations have their own agonies. Our country has already suffered a great deal from the war; so what is the point in further aggravating its wounds, preventing it from making up for the wasted wartime years and catching up with the rest of the world?
I really hope we will put aside all our pains and past feuds to turn over a new page to create a thriving country, because we all were born to the same mother, Au Co. Wherever we are, we will always remain brothers and sisters.
I’ll keep praying and hoping for that.
why the heck an overseas Viet wants to bury the past write to a Communist Newspaper asking overseas Viet community to do the same. why don't he/she write to a overseas Viet newspaper??!!!
why don't he/she write to a Communist Newspaper and ask the communist to bury the past, stop discriminating VNCH families, stop repressing people freedom, let people vote for their government and not a one party dictatorship government, ask the media to investigate the officials and their family fortune, where the heck do they get rich like that, etc...
see if they will post your letter?
We all say we want a better Vietnam. but Vietnam is better only when there is no repression of freedom and democracy. guess who's in the way?
artilce above is full of propaganda sh*t.
^ the article belongs to Viet's governemnt news agency, offcourse its onesided. Anyway the concert are free and the food are free too, only a fool or true commie hatter woudl bypass this chance. If i was in Australia, i would put my political ideal aside and just enjoy to show.
I read somewhere that the VN government put million $$ into this project and preparing it for over 5 years. I just thought maybe that amount of money can be put to use in some other way,
I read somewhere that the VN government put million $$ into this project and preparing it for over 5 years. I just thought maybe that amount of money can be put to use in some other way,
Ok, what is one sided about it and how better to spend the money and promote peace and hamony!?
The country still has a long way to go! It is still prosecuting those that involved in the old regime, esp the innocent children. There is no freedom of speech which you guys must all love here. Thus, the country is still divided because basically I still see 3 red lashes waving around protesting while I don't see any other flag at all!
Thus this was how it all started and how it will continue. To bury the painful past you must first understand it and start burying the thing that continues it or keeps it going, 3 red lashes!
3 red lashes only end up making VCs look a better part of the same game! Stop this stupid game by burying 3 red lashes. Protest but do it in different flag!
The country still has a long way to go! It is still prosecuting those that involved in the old regime, esp the innocent children. There is no freedom of speech which you guys must all love here. Thus, the country is still divided because basically I still see 3 red lashes waving around protesting while I don't see any other flag at all!
Thus this was how it all started and how it will continue. To bury the painful past you must first understand it and start burying the thing that continues it or keeps it going, 3 red lashes!
3 red lashes only end up making VCs look a better part of the same game! Stop this stupid game by burying 3 red lashes. Protest but do it in different flag!
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Nov 9 2005, 11:19 AM)
...Thus, the country is still divided because basically I still see 3 red lashes waving around protesting while I don't see any other flag at all!
Thus this was how it all started and how it will continue. To bury the painful past you must first understand it and start burying the thing that continues it or keeps it going, 3 red lashes!
Thus this was how it all started and how it will continue. To bury the painful past you must first understand it and start burying the thing that continues it or keeps it going, 3 red lashes!
quocthaibinhan, are you too dumb to know there are other Anti-Communist flags beside the Yellow flag or YOU ARE JUST A BLIND b!tch?
There are Quoc Dan Dang, Nhan Dan Hanh Dong Dang, Dan Toc Dang, Dan Chu Dang, etc opposing the Vietnamese Communist Government. Each of them has their own flag but they still respect the Yellow flag.
Yellow Flag doesn't belong to any political party but it is belonging individually to each Vietnamese. If you don't understand what 3 RED STRIPES stand for, then ask around. Stop yapping around here! AFTER ALL, YOU ARE THE CRAPPY FOOL ON HERE.
I think you should stop posting politic threats on here. Commies hate you, Anti-Commies curse at you and naive people think you are a fool. NO ONE WOULD GIVE A DAMN ON WHAT YOU DO, quocthaibinhan.
GET A LIFE OR CALL JENNY CRAIG, quocthaibinhan.
They respect the 3 red lashes because they are them. I said, if it still has the 3 red lashes, it is still not bury. You can't bury the past if you still involve it in and supporting it.
Just look at you with your 3 red lashes. They are the same, supporting the 3 red lashes in a different way, not burying it!
So were these flags there protesting. Even when VCs came to US, I didn't see them at all in the picture posted up. Or was there any mention of these different flag, but just 3 red lashes.
What a surprise!
Just look at you with your 3 red lashes. They are the same, supporting the 3 red lashes in a different way, not burying it!
So were these flags there protesting. Even when VCs came to US, I didn't see them at all in the picture posted up. Or was there any mention of these different flag, but just 3 red lashes.
What a surprise!
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Nov 9 2005, 11:59 AM)
They respect the 3 red lashes because they are them. I said, if it still has the 3 red lashes, it is still not bury. You can't bury the past if you still involve it in and supporting it.
Just look at you with your 3 red lashes. They are the same, supporting the 3 red lashes in a different way, not burying it!
So were these flags there protesting. Even when VCs came to US, I didn't see them at all in the picture posted up. Or was there any mention of these different flag, but just 3 red lashes.
What a surprise!
Just look at you with your 3 red lashes. They are the same, supporting the 3 red lashes in a different way, not burying it!
So were these flags there protesting. Even when VCs came to US, I didn't see them at all in the picture posted up. Or was there any mention of these different flag, but just 3 red lashes.
What a surprise!
CALL JENNY CRAIG, quocthaibinhan. You need to get a life. Oh, and a brain too.
QUOTE (ZamienTran @ Nov 9 2005, 03:23 PM)
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Nov 9 2005, 11:59 AM)
They respect the 3 red lashes because they are them. I said, if it still has the 3 red lashes, it is still not bury. You can't bury the past if you still involve it in and supporting it.
Just look at you with your 3 red lashes. They are the same, supporting the 3 red lashes in a different way, not burying it!
So were these flags there protesting. Even when VCs came to US, I didn't see them at all in the picture posted up. Or was there any mention of these different flag, but just 3 red lashes.
What a surprise!
Just look at you with your 3 red lashes. They are the same, supporting the 3 red lashes in a different way, not burying it!
So were these flags there protesting. Even when VCs came to US, I didn't see them at all in the picture posted up. Or was there any mention of these different flag, but just 3 red lashes.
What a surprise!
CALL JENNY CRAIG, quocthaibinhan. You need to get a life. Oh, and a brain too.
I know you have nothing else!
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Nov 9 2005, 12:44 PM)
I know you have nothing else!
My dear, I do have lots of things to say to you. But why should I waste my time with some dumbass, brainless, ignorant like you?
AGAIN, CALL JENNY CRAIG, my dear.
QUOTE
"I contemplate the old pigeon’s words—which sound wise at first but, on reflection, are entirely wrong. Suddenly I feel ashamed, embarrassed, to find myself holding such a philosophical discussion with these pigeons, these soulless birds"
-from WILD PIGEON'S TALE
-from WILD PIGEON'S TALE
QUOTE (ZamienTran @ Nov 9 2005, 04:19 PM)
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Nov 9 2005, 12:44 PM)
I know you have nothing else!
My dear, I do have lots of things to say to you. But why should I waste my time with some dumbass, brainless, ignorant like you?
AGAIN, CALL JENNY CRAIG, my dear.
Dear, play with your 3 red lashes in yellow crap! It is better than going to Jenny. They don't play with crap there, at least not that I heard off. But may be they will have plenty of crap for 3 red lashes because everyone knows what 3 red lashes like!
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QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Nov 9 2005, 01:26 PM)
Dear, play with your 3 red lashes in yellow crap! It is better than going to Jenny. They don't play with crap there, at least not that I heard off. But may be they will have plenty of crap for 3 red lashes because everyone knows what 3 red lashes like!
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"I contemplate the old pigeon’s words—which sound wise at first but, on reflection, are entirely wrong. Suddenly I feel ashamed, embarrassed, to find myself holding such a philosophical discussion with these pigeons, these soulless birds"
-from WILD PIGEON'S TALE
-from WILD PIGEON'S TALE
QUOTE (ZamienTran @ Nov 9 2005, 04:27 PM)
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Nov 9 2005, 01:26 PM)
Dear, play with your 3 red lashes in yellow crap! It is better than going to Jenny. They don't play with crap there, at least not that I heard off. But may be they will have plenty of crap for 3 red lashes because everyone knows what 3 red lashes like!
QUOTE
"I contemplate the old pigeon’s words—which sound wise at first but, on reflection, are entirely wrong. Suddenly I feel ashamed, embarrassed, to find myself holding such a philosophical discussion with these pigeons, these soulless birds"
-from WILD PIGEON'S TALE
-from WILD PIGEON'S TALE
Soulless, sounds like a Catho's story!
QUOTE (ZamienTran @ Nov 9 2005, 01:27 PM)
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Nov 9 2005, 01:26 PM)
Dear, play with your 3 red lashes in yellow crap! It is better than going to Jenny. They don't play with crap there, at least not that I heard off. But may be they will have plenty of crap for 3 red lashes because everyone knows what 3 red lashes like!
QUOTE
"I contemplate the old pigeon’s words—which sound wise at first but, on reflection, are entirely wrong. Suddenly I feel ashamed, embarrassed, to find myself holding such a philosophical discussion with these pigeons, these soulless birds"
-from WILD PIGEON'S TALE
-from WILD PIGEON'S TALE
haha don't even try zamien, quo is a hopeless case. i've gotten into an argument before with him, but the only thing he can say is basically "three red lashes!'' or "everything else is kindergarten." He blames other people for the problems in Vietnam (especially Catholics and Americans). But i think we all should move on from the past, not by "burying" it but by accepting what was, and what is today. maybe then all of us can help to create a better future for vietnam.
QUOTE (so yea @ Nov 9 2005, 05:53 PM)
haha don't even try zamien, quo is a hopeless case. i've gotten into an argument before with him, but the only thing he can say is basically "three red lashes!'' or "everything else is kindergarten." He blames other people for the problems in Vietnam (especially Catholics and Americans). But i think we all should move on from the past, not by "burying" it but by accepting what was, and what is today. maybe then all of us can help to create a better future for vietnam.
Not bad, except you don't know what to accept! But stop supporting 3 red lashes is a good start!
QUOTE (Viety Cent @ Nov 10 2005, 12:15 AM)
^ dats some hardcore propaganda right there
Funny, people carry the yellow and three-stripe flag think its all alright for them to broadcast propaganda, but when someone else does it, then it:
"Freedom for Vietnam....blah blah blah blah!!"
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Nov 9 2005, 04:51 PM)
QUOTE (so yea @ Nov 9 2005, 05:53 PM)
haha don't even try zamien, quo is a hopeless case. i've gotten into an argument before with him, but the only thing he can say is basically "three red lashes!'' or "everything else is kindergarten." He blames other people for the problems in Vietnam (especially Catholics and Americans). But i think we all should move on from the past, not by "burying" it but by accepting what was, and what is today. maybe then all of us can help to create a better future for vietnam.
Not bad, except you don't know what to accept! But stop supporting 3 red lashes is a good start!
I don't know what to accept? do you want me to accept the half-truths and general statements that you plaster all over this forum? Do you want me to belive what you say quo? if you want to impose your beliefs on all of us, you're just like the communist who want everyone to accept what they preach as the truth. This forum is for an open debate, there is no correct answer, although many of us think that we have the correct one. Just argue your point, and hopefully you can change the way other people think instead of imposing it like you do.
Like I am imposing on you? It is always up to the individual to know what is true and what it is not! You have to know what is it. That means you will have to have truth inside to recognize it. If you can't recognize it, you will not know it. Then you will say: "I don't know what makes sense". Sounds rather pathetic!
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Nov 10 2005, 11:08 AM)
Like I am imposing on you? It is always up to the individual to know what is true and what it is not! You have to know what is it. That means you will have to have truth inside to recognize it. If you can't recognize it, you will not know it. Then you will say: "I don't know what makes sense". Sounds rather pathetic!
Quocthaibinhan, WHY DON'T YOU JUST SHUT THE FUK UP AND CALL JENNY CRAIG? YOU NEED TO LOSE THAT FAT LAYERS ON YOUR BODY. YOU'VE BEEN SPENT LOTS OF TIME ON HERE FOR NOTHING BUT BEING IGNORANT AND GETTING FAT.
YOU LEARN NOTHING FROM US, AND WE FIND NOTHING TO LEARN FROM YOU. WHY YOU KEEP WASTING YOUR TIME, YOUR OLD CHILDISH FOOL???
The world "soulless" in the "WILD PIGEON" story meaning to those people have no dignity, self-esteem and character of themselves. And btw, the author of WILD PIGEON is a Chinese Muslim.
So my dear, YOU ARE A SOULLESS FOOL ON HERE, QUOCTHAIBINHAN.
3 red lashes just don't have anything to rebut!
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