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battleship
http://www.spacewar.com/2004/041105061953.ro8nal8v.html

or go to yahoo search engine and type in china and indonesia boost military ties.

indonesia, the country that used chinese people as scapegoats and killed and raped hundreds of thousands of chinese in 1998. And even today chinese live in fear in indonesia.
What nation on earth would ever sell weapons to indonesia? None other than china. America would certainly NOT sell weapons to indonesia.
can you imagine IF Taiwan sold weapons to indonesia? We would never do such a thing, in 1998. All ties between Taiwan and indonesia has been cut.
yes, beijing, china is the only current supplier of weapons to indonesia. Yes, chinese people biggest enemy is Beijing. This goes to show you how little china cares about chinese people. How little china cares about human life. How little china cares about the suffering of chinese everywhere. If beijing can make a few dollars that is all that matters.
yes, all the machines guns, garandes, RPG all manufactured in china is currently being shiped to indonesia so that they can continue to kill kill kill more chinese folks.
battleship
hey renton wong and big ben chow, and all this time you are worrying about chen sui bing trying to seek ties with japan.
Look who is acting like japanese and killing chinese folks. Yes, your very own Beijing commie dictators.
It is so obvious that china and KMT don't give a rat a s s, about chinese folks, make one wonder why then why the hell, would china ever want Taiwan in the first place?
yeah, propgranda, to move 1.3 billion all in the same direction. the carrot and the donkey. so that dictators can continue to stay in power.
Beijing, KMT very pathetic. i ask all chinese every where to bomb beijing NOW!! and bomb beijing little pet doggy KMT too. these two illigamate dictator governments must to destoryed!
caterina_xc
china must been stupid to sell weapon to them...then..i'm not if it true about what you say...
kunomchu
Indonesian Chinese nationals are not the concerns of the PRC. Why would they care lol. And BS stop double posting you tard.
shashoujian
Battleship, I wonder why you're even post in a subforum of Chinese chat, considering that all the comments you make are all non-sense?

What happened in Indonesia was during the period when Suharto was in power, what happened in 1998 drew the attention and condemnation of all Chinese (Mainland/Taiwan/Overseas).

You see, I don't like the Indonesians anymore than your average Chinese, however, the only reason you're b!tching about Sino-Indonesian ties is probably due to the fact that Indonesia - now, actually supports the Anti-secession law (and by the way, Suharto is no longer in power).

Oh, and, how the hell can you use Surface-to-Air Missiles and Cruise Missiles to oppress your citizens? You know what? You're just making yourself look like a real fool.
battleship
Chinese people are all spread out all over the 10 corners of the earth. And that is fine by me. they should all have the freedom to make money and raise their families and live an INDEPENDENT nationalities as they have the right to.
however, if chinese are threatened, physicall harmed, then it becomes my and all of chinese's business.
No one has the right to threaten or harm anyone.
I am so proud of being a DDP member, my president chen sui bing, got into a big argument with Indonesia and cut off all ties with them and fired all indonesia laberors in Taiwan. The way it should be.
But, guess who is sending more weapons to indonesia? china , what a shock!!
beijing and china is the biggest threat to chinese everywhere. shame on china. shame on china. !! i am quite disguisted! china and KMt is illegimate ruler of china.
shashoujian
QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 12 2005, 08:41 PM)
Chinese people are all spread out all over the 10 corners of the earth. And that is fine by me. they should all have the freedom to make money and raise their families and live an INDEPENDENT nationalities as they have the right to.
however, if chinese are threatened, physicall harmed, then it becomes my and all of chinese's business. 
    No one has the right to threaten or harm anyone. 
    I am so proud of being a DDP member,  my president chen sui bing, got into a big argument with Indonesia and cut off all ties with them and fired all indonesia laberors in Taiwan.  The way it should be. 
    But, guess who is sending more weapons to indonesia?  china , what a shock!!
beijing and china is the biggest threat to chinese everywhere.  shame on china. shame on china. !!  i am quite disguisted!  china and KMt is illegimate ruler of china.
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Sad...considering you can't even spell your cult-leader's name "Chen Shui-Bian." Very sad...
battleship
shasoujian,
actually, 99 percent of the nations around the world has been forced by china to accept the one china policy, (indonesia included). either you accept us and disengage with taiwan or else china will not establish relatons with you.
if Taiwan sells weapons to china. i would complain about taiwan as well.
i hope i will always try to be fair.
but, the reality is china don't care about human life, they are ones selling weapons to indonesia.
kunomchu
QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 12 2005, 08:45 PM)
shasoujian, 
  actually, 99 percent of the nations around the world has been forced by china to accept the one china policy, (indonesia included).  either you accept us and disengage with taiwan or else china will not establish relatons with you.
    if Taiwan sells weapons to china.  i would complain about taiwan as well. 
    i hope i will always try to be fair.
  but, the reality is china don't care about human life,  they are ones selling weapons to indonesia.
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shashoujian
QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 12 2005, 08:45 PM)
shasoujian, 
  actually, 99 percent of the nations around the world has been forced by china to accept the one china policy, (indonesia included).  either you accept us and disengage with taiwan or else china will not establish relatons with you.
    if Taiwan sells weapons to china.  i would complain about taiwan as well. 
    i hope i will always try to be fair.
  but, the reality is china don't care about human life,  they are ones selling weapons to indonesia.
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Forced? Yeah, and apparently, Taiwan "forced" 25 poor-@$$ African/Latin American countries to befriend it by the same method China "forces" other countries to recognize it. Seriously, are you blind? China has the geo-political clout to retain its relations with other countries, Taiwan doesn't, because it belongs to China, end of story.
battleship
it is called check book diplomacy. who can write the biggest checks.
end of story? oh, reality is i and we ddp have only begun to fight. it will be a long long sloug , i can assure you that. i am betting all my money that , china will turn democratic first before anything else. this is not 1949, we have guns too you know. and we will shoot back. by the way, during 1949 when kmt killed so many peaceful protesters in cold blood, that is very cowardly of you. and china as well. very cowardly.
you have to understand, that china has many opponents. for example the US-japanese alliance. yes, good ol bush placed 4 b2 bombers and the USS ronald reagan in asia.
like i said , it will be a long long sloug for china, in all directions.
battleship
boring talking to you guys, i am moving on to next topic.
kunomchu
i'm sure china woo'd the usa with check book diplomacy. lmao
BigBenChow
QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 12 2005, 09:24 PM)
hey renton wong and big ben chow,  and all  this time you are worrying about chen sui bing trying to seek ties with japan. 
Look who is acting like japanese and killing chinese folks.  Yes, your very own Beijing commie dictators.
   It is so obvious that china and KMT don't give a rat a s s, about chinese folks, make one wonder why then why the hell, would china ever want Taiwan in the first place?
    yeah,  propgranda,  to move 1.3 billion all in the same direction.  the carrot and the donkey.  so that dictators can continue to stay in power.
    Beijing, KMT very pathetic.  i ask all chinese every where to bomb beijing NOW!! and bomb beijing little pet doggy KMT too.  these two illigamate dictator governments must to destoryed!
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What are you talking about. We all know that Chen wants to be buried with his masters at the Yasukuni war shrine. icon_rolleyes.gif

Why should China care about Indonesian nationals? Just like why should I care about you? You are chinese too, and yet I wouldn't care if a Chinese missile killed you. But lucky for you, your parents brought you to the states so you wouldn't have to face death in the Taiwanese military.

QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 12 2005, 09:57 PM)
boring talking to you guys, i am moving on to next topic.
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When there's a bit of heat...you run and hide... Typical.. icon_rolleyes.gif
shashoujian
QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 12 2005, 08:56 PM)
it is called check book diplomacy.  who can write the biggest checks. 
end of story?  oh, reality is i and we ddp have only begun to fight.  it will be a long long sloug , i can assure you that.  i am betting all my money that , china will turn democratic first before anything else.  this is not 1949,  we have guns too you know.  and we will shoot back.  by the way, during 1949 when kmt killed so many peaceful protesters in cold blood,  that is very cowardly of you. and china as well.  very cowardly.
  you have to understand, that china has many opponents.  for example the US-japanese alliance.  yes,  good ol bush placed 4 b2 bombers and the USS ronald reagan in asia. 
  like i said , it will be a long long sloug for china, in all directions.
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Dude, you make me laugh. If China were to be democratic, policies targeting Taiwan separation and the Japanese would be further intensified. By the way, US-Japan alliance? More like US domination over the hopeless Japanese. And the deployment of DF-41s would be more than enough to deter American involvement.
Bulldogg
QUOTE (shashoujian @ Nov 12 2005, 09:06 PM)
QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 12 2005, 08:56 PM)
it is called check book diplomacy.  who can write the biggest checks. 
end of story?  oh, reality is i and we ddp have only begun to fight.  it will be a long long sloug , i can assure you that.  i am betting all my money that , china will turn democratic first before anything else.  this is not 1949,  we have guns too you know.  and we will shoot back.  by the way, during 1949 when kmt killed so many peaceful protesters in cold blood,  that is very cowardly of you. and china as well.  very cowardly.
   you have to understand, that china has many opponents.  for example the US-japanese alliance.  yes,  good ol bush placed 4 b2 bombers and the USS ronald reagan in asia. 
  like i said , it will be a long long sloug for china, in all directions.
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Dude, you make me laugh. If China were to be democratic, policies targeting Taiwan separation and the Japanese would be further intensified. By the way, US-Japan alliance? More like US domination over the hopeless Japanese. And the deployment of DF-41s would be more than enough to deter American involvement.
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Asia will never be conquered like what happend to the America's.

Asian countries r more economically stronger & militarily stronger to allow an easy Western society take over.
kunomchu
u mean china will never be taken over. SK and Japan are ya under US influence.
Bulldogg
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Yes, puppets.

But S.Korea's current leader is trying to take bak what is rightfully theres which is their own military control...i give S.Korea credit cause they r more on a neutral side, they have opened up & the N & S Korea's relations r beginning to be friendly...with all that in respect S.Korea political/people has demonstrated that they r against Japanese Koizumi's war shine visits & past colonial mist treatents on its own people by Japanese Imperlists.

Japan on the other hand?...is trying to re-conquer all of Asia again & always causeing grief to China, N & S Korea, Vietnam, Phillipines..etc.

And of course the joke island Taiwan would like to be Japans colony once again.
battleship
for big ben chow,
i have told you many times before in all of my posts. when the war in the Taiwan straits breaks out. i will be first to fly to back with my sniper rifle and night vision scope. i will taking out 100 PLA soldiers per night and 50 kmt members in the day time. and i will be aiming for the tallest guys first, like you.
you mentioned something about chen sui bing. he has more guts, than you could ever hope to be. he has the courage to go up against a nation that is 10 times bigger than taiwan. just look at china, china don't even have the guts to go against usa. and the usa is smaller than china. china is, just like big ben chow, is a true defination of a coward!!
as for shashoujian, after 50 years of saber rattling, china is still afraid to fire the first bullet. unlike arabs, arabs are fighting everyday. arabs don't care if america is bigger and stronger. china is too afraid. regardless of what military equip china has.
i do agree with you though, regardless if china is democratic or not, your 1.3billion is addicted to taiwan like a drug. you guys are too obcessed with taiwan. i do recommend that 1.3 billion do call 1-800-addicted to taiwan, or 1-800-need mental help now. and go to your nearest mental hopital to see a psycharist.
battleship
bulldogg,
japan trying to conquer asia? your a stupid guy. your ignorance is showing. go to japan today. today japan is a deomcratic nation and has no military ambiiton what so ever. nations like japan, s korea, taiwan, 's military are for defence only. where as nations like N korea, and china are building an invastion fleet.
furthermore, did america as japan , taiwan to seek and alliance with them? NO.
did america pass legislation that japan, taiwan must alliegn with them ? NO.
did america currenlty ask japan and taiwan to seek alligence with them ? NO.
It is japan , Taiwan who seek alligance with USA.
So , get you facts straight!!
battleship
for big ben chow, bruce lee hates china. bruce lee is from Hong kONg. and HK folks are westernized and modern , they don't like repressive regime of china.
get your facts straight.
battleship
for bulldogg,
since you are so in love with japan.
america in wwII gave KMT alot of weapons to fight japan. the KMT did not and saved those weapons to fight Mao and the communists. And yet you support the KMT so much. you are the biggest fool in history. you see, the KMT don't care about killing this group or that group, they currently don't care about democracy in taiwan. in fact they used alot of money to buy votes in taiwan. the KMT only wants to rule. chinese in china will suffer again if you allow KMT and this type of leadership to exist.
china was a big mess, during WWI and WWII. the governmental officials don't care about their citizens all their care about was their money. alot of corruption in china. in fact, new china and old china is exactly the same. 5 percent rich control 95 percent poor. just like today.
at least , i and we DDP has never killed any communists from china. We are very proud of that. unless, you guys invade us first. then we will kill you withoutl mercy.
islander
QUOTE (shashoujian @ Nov 12 2005, 08:50 PM)
QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 12 2005, 08:45 PM)
shasoujian, 
  actually, 99 percent of the nations around the world has been forced by china to accept the one china policy, (indonesia included).  either you accept us and disengage with taiwan or else china will not establish relatons with you.
    if Taiwan sells weapons to china.  i would complain about taiwan as well. 
    i hope i will always try to be fair.
  but, the reality is china don't care about human life,  they are ones selling weapons to indonesia.
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Forced? Yeah, and apparently, Taiwan "forced" 25 poor-@$$ African/Latin American countries to befriend it by the same method China "forces" other countries to recognize it. Seriously, are you blind? China has the geo-political clout to retain its relations with other countries, Taiwan doesn't, because it belongs to China, end of story.
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New number think is 24 nations not 25. Not all nations that recognize Taiwain poor. Panama is important banking center and trade route. Also, Taiwan can learn from Paraguay on how to stand up to invaders (check war of Triple Alliance and Chaco War). Weird all Central America recognize Taiwan. Anyway 12 American nations recognize Taiwan. 5 African (Gambia think broke relations last wk.), 6 in Oceania and 1 in europe.
kunomchu
none of these relationships matter.
mndeg
how does Taiwan want to be a Japanese colony?
lol
how could you possibly live in your own conjured up world? it's pretty scary
kunomchu
hints that taiwan want to become a japanese colony

Formosa was japan's colony for 50 years
Current DPP kisses up to Japanese government
Current DPP praised japanese rule over taiwan
DPP wants Japan and TAiwan to perform military excersizes under umbrella of USA

and we have this:
shashoujian
Bruce Lee was born in San Francisco you idiot, not HK.

Battleship, you must be blind, unlike the DDP, the KMT at least acknowledge the facts. They don't deny 98% of Taiwanese are Chinese, and they don't go dressing up and acting like J@ps everywhere.

TIers are such a joke, and yes, Lee Teng-hui is a stupid douchebag.
BigBenChow
QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 13 2005, 02:37 PM)
for big ben chow, 
    i have told you many times before in all of my posts.  when the war in the Taiwan straits breaks out.  i will be first to fly to back with my sniper rifle and night vision scope.  i will taking out 100 PLA soldiers per night and 50 kmt members in  the day time.  and i will be aiming for the tallest guys first, like you.
    you mentioned something about chen sui bing.  he has more guts, than you could ever hope to be.  he has the courage to go up against a nation that is 10 times bigger than taiwan.   just look at china, china don't even have the guts to go against usa.   and the usa is smaller than china.  china is, just like big ben chow, is a true defination of a coward!!  
   as for shashoujian,  after 50 years of saber rattling,  china is still afraid to fire the first bullet. unlike arabs, arabs are fighting everyday. arabs don't care if america is bigger and stronger.  china is too afraid. regardless of what military equip china has.
    i do agree  with you though,  regardless if china is democratic or not,  your 1.3billion is addicted to taiwan like a drug.  you guys are too obcessed with taiwan.  i do recommend that 1.3 billion do call 1-800-addicted to taiwan, or 1-800-need mental help now.  and go to your nearest mental hopital to see a psycharist.
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Wow..you are some piece of work. Not only do I laugh at your intellectual mis fortunes, I also pity your parents for having a son thats a disgrace for all Chinese people. I can see why they ran to the USA, I wouldn't want retards like you defending my home land... You'll be bombed before you can see anything on your NV scope! lol. Hilarious. You'll just be wasting another Taiwan's body bags and they will need a lot if your dumbA$$ chen doesn't get his act straight.

QUOTE (battleship)
for big ben chow, bruce lee hates china. bruce lee is from Hong kONg. and HK folks are westernized and modern , they don't like repressive regime of china.
get your facts straight.

Your point being? How do you know I'm not from HK? and I don't hate China... You know what people hate in Hk? 2.5 jai's that deny their own blood, people like you...Japaholic pedophiles like you that wants to fullfill your destiny of entering the gates of the Yasukuni Shrine so you can forever be assfuked by your masters.
Bulldogg
QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 13 2005, 01:41 PM)
bulldogg, 
    japan trying to conquer asia?   your a stupid guy.  your ignorance is showing. go to japan today.  today japan is a deomcratic nation and has no military ambiiton what so ever.  nations like japan, s korea, taiwan, 's military are for defence only.  where as nations like N korea, and china are building an invastion fleet.
   furthermore,  did america as japan , taiwan to seek and alliance with them? NO.
   did america pass legislation that japan, taiwan must alliegn with them ? NO.
   did america currenlty ask japan and taiwan to seek alligence with them ? NO.
   It is japan , Taiwan who seek alligance with USA. 
   So , get you facts straight!!
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No ur a stupid guy, because ur the one who thinks in the end U.S.A is gonna help Taiwan defend against China...

U have no clue in what is going on with the econmics, China militarily is not complying with the U.S.A that is the only conflicting issue.

However U.S.A, Canada & China r building stronger buisness relationships.

See President Hu is smart, not like President Chen..

President Hu = A strong leader

President Chen = A joke

And u r a joke too battleship, Japan wanting to re-conquor & be Asia's #1 giant again with the help of U.S.A relations...although the U.S.A is playing all of the Asian countries to work against eachother.

U battleship r a war monger just like President Chen & Junichiro Koizumi...both of them & u want to start another war with the help of the U.S.A...

The U.S.A is just sitting bak, & seeing if the time is right or not..

So basically it is u who don't see this as well as other Taiwanese seperatists...It's all a game that the U.S.A r laffing behind our backs.

i am here to go down & say that Taiwan is a joke & merely just another chess game, a pond for the U.S.A the King in the chess game, & Japan is the rook in the chess game on the U.S.A side.

And in the end, China the Queen in the chess game along with a knight like me in the game on China's side will gobble all of u crazy U.S.A, Japan & Taiwan war mongers up. badteeth.gif-
X_Dragon
QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 12 2005, 08:41 PM)
Chinese people are all spread out all over the 10 corners of the earth. And that is fine by me. they should all have the freedom to make money and raise their families and live an INDEPENDENT nationalities as they have the right to.
however, if chinese are threatened, physicall harmed, then it becomes my and all of chinese's business. 
     No one has the right to threaten or harm anyone. 
    I am so proud of being a DDP member,  my president chen sui bing, got into a big argument with Indonesia and cut off all ties with them and fired all indonesia laberors in Taiwan.  The way it should be. 
    But, guess who is sending more weapons to indonesia?  china , what a shock!!
beijing and china is the biggest threat to chinese everywhere.  shame on china. shame on china. !!  i am quite disguisted!  china and KMt is illegimate ruler of china.
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ur proud of your leader firing every "indonesia laberors" just becuase of their ethicity? what happened to your pride of democracy, where everyone is equal, treated with no descrimination? All your proving is that your just another chen sui bing @$$ licking turtle $hit..

and what kind of sourcing is "spacewar".... are we fighting gundam style now?



and you triple posted you elephant @$$ poker...
SagaciousLuDa
OOOOO THEY SUNK UR BATTLESHIP LOL
RentonWong
kekeke
chilli21
selling weapons to indo doesn't mean they're aiming at the ethnic chinese. sure.gif
battleship
for big ben chow,
i have lived in japan for one year. Every few month, mainland china sends diplomatics and business leaders to japan to kiss @$$ to the japanese and beg them for money to develope smaller cities in china. go to http://www.japanforum.com and you will see.
last i heard japan donated 3.5 billion US dollars each year to china. furthermore, last year before the embassy attack in china, japan also gave 350 million.
china is such an ungratefuly dog. even a dog , if you feed it , it will wag its tail. mainland chinese and KMT tries to bite the hand that feed it. that is what i call a parasite. furthermore, i always get a big laugh when i see KMT kissing @$$ to CCP. hurry up and suck the beijing c o c k.
big ben chow is the biggest disagrace to the chinese, cuz you live here in the west being a hypricite and constantly dreaming about china. hurry up and pack your bags and go back to kiss @$$ to the mainlanders, and see if they will take you back. i seriously doubt it.
and for the record, japan don't need the US navy to protect them. currently the japanese technology is capable of building robotic military soldiers that can walk , aim , shoot. the next war china fight with japan, it will be a robotic war. japanese made missles will DANCE CIRCLES around you chinese made missles. they already made robotic construction workers., that can saw, cut and hammer nails. To aim a gun and shoot , that is very easy.
KMT just don't have a home, the majority 80 percent of taiwanese hate them and is trying to kick KMT out. and the CCP won't take you back. who would ever respect a lap dog. after the ccp finishes using the kmt, they will just kick you out.
the KMT may have to move to the phillippines.
battleship
QUOTE (chilli21 @ Nov 14 2005, 07:42 AM)
selling weapons to indo doesn't mean they're aiming at the ethnic chinese.  sure.gif
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yes it does, indonesia don't have any external enemies. they buy alot of weapons to control their population. The government is fighting the rebels, they often use chinese as the scapegoat and blame their nations problems on chinese.
of course china -beijing don't care about chinese, if chinese are getting killed , beijing could care less. as long as beijing can make a few dollars. makes you wonder why the hell would beijing want to hassel Taiwan. weird. beijing needs a carrot to put in front of the 1.3 billion. yep, 1.3 billion donkeys sure are stupid.
mainlanders and KMT may well be one of the stupidest race in the history of mankind.
shashoujian
TIers are so dead when we get back the damn island.
battleship
it is wrong of you to critize me. it is most patriotic to critize your CCP and KMT. if you truely want to protect chinese in china and indonesia, and chinese everywhere., then i highly suggest you start by changing all the unethical , immoral thinkings and proprganda from beijing and KMT.
The truth hurts doesn't it?!!
let me tell you something, if taiwan sells weapons to indonesia, or do anything unethical, i would be the first to critize. but, thank god, taiwan has high moral and ethics., is because we continously try to impove ourselves. something china and KMT does NOT. china and KMT only wants to rule asia. Reality is folks like Taiwanese will inheriate the earth. for example, the USA won all the battles with vietnam, but lost the war in shame. It is easy to win battles in iraq, but, the iraqies has been in the middle east for the past 8000 years. The usa has already lost the war. similarily with Taiwan and china. China might win battles, but taiwanese will inheriate the island.
shashoujian
Yes, Taiwanese WILL inherite the land, considering they are also Chinese. You're still dead once we get back our renegade province.
RentonWong
battleship is a fraud
Darkblade
QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 19 2005, 01:56 AM)
for big ben chow, 
  i have lived in japan for one year.  Every few month,  mainland china sends diplomatics and business leaders to japan to kiss @$$ to the japanese and beg them for money to develope smaller cities in china.  go to http://www.japanforum.com and you will see. 
  last i heard japan donated 3.5 billion US dollars each year to china.  furthermore,  last year before the embassy attack in china, japan also gave 350 million. 
china is such an ungratefuly dog.  even a dog , if you feed it , it will wag its tail.  mainland chinese and KMT tries to bite the hand that feed it.  that is what i call a parasite.  furthermore,  i always get  a big laugh when i see KMT kissing @$$ to CCP.  hurry up and suck the beijing c o c k.
    big ben chow is the biggest disagrace to the chinese,  cuz you live here in the west being a hypricite and constantly dreaming about china.  hurry up and pack your bags and go back to kiss @$$ to the mainlanders,  and see if they will take you back.  i seriously doubt it. 
    and for the record,  japan don't need the US navy to protect them.  currently the japanese technology is capable of building robotic military soldiers that can  walk , aim , shoot.  the next war china fight with japan, it will be a robotic war.  japanese made missles will DANCE CIRCLES around you chinese made missles. they already made robotic construction workers., that can saw, cut and hammer nails.  To aim a gun and shoot , that is very easy.
      KMT just don't have a home,  the majority 80 percent of taiwanese hate them and is trying to kick KMT out.  and the CCP won't take you back.  who would ever respect a lap dog.  after the ccp finishes using the kmt, they will just kick you out.
the KMT may have to move to the phillippines.
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in your dreams biggrin.gif if japanese are that smart they wont use our hanzi culture technology culture etc etc, copycats ... now they copy german's technology and "claim as their own"

very similar to this

The West's Debt to China?
http://chineseculture.about.com/gi/dynamic...%2Fwestdebt.htm

The Author is clear and concise on his point,
the modern world is in debt to the Chinese. He gave many examples of
Chinese invoation, and how the rest of the world copied the Chinese.
Not did the rest of the world copy Chinese inventions,
they claimed that they were the first to invent it.

http://chineseculture.about.com/gi/dynamic...istory%2F90.htm
BigBenChow
QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 19 2005, 01:56 AM)
for big ben chow, 
   i have lived in japan for one year.  Every few month,  mainland china sends diplomatics and business leaders to japan to kiss @$$ to the japanese and beg them for money to develope smaller cities in china.  go to http://www.japanforum.com and you will see. 
   last i heard japan donated 3.5 billion US dollars each year to china.  furthermore,  last year before the embassy attack in china, japan also gave 350 million.  
china is such an ungratefuly dog.   even a dog , if you feed it , it will wag its tail.  mainland chinese and KMT tries to bite the hand that feed it.  that is what i call a parasite.  furthermore,  i always get  a big laugh when i see KMT kissing @$$ to CCP.  hurry up and suck the beijing c o c k.
    big ben chow is the biggest disagrace to the chinese,  cuz you live here in the west being a hypricite and constantly dreaming about china.  hurry up and pack your bags and go back to kiss @$$ to the mainlanders,  and see if they will take you back.  i seriously doubt it. 
    and for the record,  japan don't need the US navy to protect them.  currently the japanese technology is capable of building robotic military soldiers that can  walk , aim , shoot.  the next war china fight with japan, it will be a robotic war.  japanese made missles will DANCE CIRCLES around you chinese made missles. they already made robotic construction workers., that can saw, cut and hammer nails.  To aim a gun and shoot , that is very easy.
      KMT just don't have a home,  the majority 80 percent of taiwanese hate them and is trying to kick KMT out.  and the CCP won't take you back.  who would ever respect a lap dog.  after the ccp finishes using the kmt, they will just kick you out.
the KMT may have to move to the phillippines.
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What makes you think I live in the West? icon_rolleyes.gif
Just because you ran away, deson't mean all Chinese ran away like how your parents did. Ask them, they want you to live an easy life so that you don't have to serve in the Taiwanese military.

Stop lying to yourself. That wasn't Japan you were in for one year, that was your local J-town. Why do you always like to talk about the Japanese so much? Do you have this Japfetish or something? and you claim that WE chinese are bigger Japanese lovers than you? Please. Why do you like to contradict yourself in so many different ways on so many different occasions?? Everytime you contradict yourself, you make yourself look like a 10 year old kid who doesn't know what hes talking about.

Why do you talk of robotic soliders? Is it because you are hoping to be one of those robotic soldiers? So you can die in the name of your Japanese masters and be enshrined into the Yasukuni shrine? The truth comes out huh? You claim that 80% of the Taiwanese hate the KMT...how do you explain Chen's failure to pass the defence law? Certainly, if the majority voted, then CHen's party would have been the majority as well. Why do you always talk out of your a$$? You know absolulety nothing.

Battleship, stop kidding yourself, you are a pu$$y and you know it. We all know it.icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 19 2005, 03:22 AM)
it is wrong of you to critize me.  it is most patriotic to critize your CCP and KMT.  if you truely want to protect chinese in china and indonesia, and chinese everywhere., then i highly suggest you start by changing  all the unethical , immoral thinkings and proprganda from beijing and KMT. 
The truth hurts doesn't it?!!
let me tell you something,  if taiwan sells weapons to indonesia, or do anything unethical, i would be the first to critize.  but, thank god,  taiwan has high moral and ethics., is because we continously try to impove ourselves.  something china and KMT does NOT. china and KMT only wants to rule asia.  Reality is folks like Taiwanese will inheriate the earth. for example,  the USA won all the battles with vietnam, but lost the war in shame.  It is easy to win battles in iraq, but, the iraqies has been in the middle east for the past 8000 years.  The usa has already lost the war.   similarily with Taiwan and china.  China might win battles,  but taiwanese will inheriate the island.
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It is wrong to critize you? Why, too much for you? You brought this on yourself kid. You claim you can kill 10 Chinese with one hand behind your back, yet you are too affraid of going back to Japan, opps I mean Taiwan. You start running your mouth and I'll run my mouth at you. Dumb statements from you requires harsh replies. If you feel that I shouldn't critize you, you stop running your mouth and I'll stop naturally.

If you say so icon_rolleyes.gif
Don't get excited and pull your pants back up buddy, you won't get into the Yasukuni shrine that way. You'll just have to figure out another way to fullfill your destiny of being a$$fuked by your masters at the shrine.
BigBenChow
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U.S. revives Jakarta military ties

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Posted: 0035 GMT (0835 HKT)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Washington has restored military ties with Indonesia as a reward for the most-populous Muslim nation's cooperation against al Qaeda-linked militants, U.S. State Department officials have said.

The move comes despite objections from human rights groups that say Indonesia has done too little to punish offenders for the violence in East Timor in 1999 that led to the cooler U.S.-Indonesian military ties.

But the U.S. officials defended the decision, saying the government had made greater efforts to bring justice for the violence and had improved the country's democratic credentials and human rights record.

They also said that while Tuesday's decision allowed the export of lethal weapons to Indonesia, Washington would still be looking at its rights record in determining whether to go ahead with any sales to the vast archipelago.

"Indonesia is a voice of moderation in the Islamic world," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said in a statement on the decision. "Indonesia has made significant progress in advancing its democratic institutions and practices in a relatively short time."

The decision follows agreements earlier in the year to allow exports of nonlethal equipment and revive a small military training program.

"They have increasingly become a key partner for us in counterterrorism," said a State Department official, who asked not to be named because he was elaborating on McCormack's statement.

"This normalization and the ability to work with Indonesia allows us to prod them into taking more steps on the democratic path and in improving their military regarding rights issues," he added.

Indonesia has suffered a spate of militant bombings and last year its Aceh region was devastated by the Indian Ocean tsunami.

Straddling vital shipping routes, Indonesia performs a delicate balancing act between Washington and a populace that opposes the U.S.-led wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

But President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, a U.S.-trained former general who last year became his country's first directly elected president, had lobbied Washington for ties to be restored during a visit in May.

The United States "will help modernize the Indonesian military, provide further incentives for reform of the Indonesian military, and support U.S. and Indonesian security objectives, including counterterrorism, maritime security and disaster relief," McCormack said.


Oh look battleship, your masters are helping Indonesia too! icon_rolleyes.gif
Mid-Night_Sun
honestly, this doesnt seem like a smart move...i mean if Chinese own so much of indoesias economy, wouldnt it be in Chinas interest to work with them...not help them get killed...
Chinese_Soldier
this is nothing compared to what separatists in Taiwan want to do, they want to be part of japan that has killed, raped, tortured millions of chinese.
battleship
for big ben chow, this is the 10th time, i you have posted the same post. think of something new you moron. you have an IQ of 20 if can't think of anything new.
that is right, Taiwan is just the country that you just CAN'T touch, the itch you can't scratch. yes, the eye sore in front of your face , that there is NOTHING you can do about it.!! ha ha ha ha ha!! and reality hurts, doesn't it?!! only a pathetic loser like yourself would spend so much time trashing Taiwan! ha ha ha
free free ,free, ha ha ha!!!
battleship
QUOTE (Mid-Night_Sun @ Nov 22 2005, 07:50 PM)
honestly, this doesnt seem like a smart move...i mean if Chinese own so much of indoesias economy, wouldnt it be in Chinas interest to work with them...not help them get killed...
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china does not care if other chinese are being killed, raped. why should beijing care, in their mind, they are only interested in saving face, and buying more weapons and gain higher social status in the world.
my cousin is a pharmists working in china. he told me that during the SARS scare, it killed thousands of villagers and the ccp quartined and buried all the bodies, and would not allow media to print any stories on it. and recently the bird flu, we are guessing it is the same thing. and look at the AIDS in china. millions and cities and town all quartined and nothing is ever reported to news papers.
do you think china even give a rat a s s about a few thousand chinese being killed or raped?!! i don't think so.
battleship
QUOTE (Chinese_Soldier @ Nov 22 2005, 08:26 PM)
this is nothing compared to what separatists in Taiwan want to do, they want to be part of japan that has killed, raped, tortured millions of chinese.
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it is china is buying alot of weapons , just like the japanese in WWII.
it is china who is afraid of america, just like the japanese in wwII.
it is china who is trying to invade neighboring nations, just like japanese.
it is china who will be defeated by america, just like japanese in WWII>
it is mainland chinese who loves to buy made in japan products. women fashion, cosmetic, houseware, cell phones. etc etc.
china = japan.
and if you look at the map of 1940's china and japan is the same country.
BigBenChow
QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 23 2005, 05:13 PM)
for big ben chow,  this is the 10th time, i you have posted the same post.   think of something new you moron.   you have an IQ of 20 if can't think of anything new.
    that is right,  Taiwan is just the country that you just CAN'T touch, the itch you can't scratch.   yes, the eye sore in front of your face , that there is NOTHING you can do about it.!!   ha ha ha ha ha!!    and reality hurts, doesn't it?!!    only a pathetic loser like yourself would spend so much time trashing Taiwan!    ha ha ha
  free free ,free,  ha ha ha!!!
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I don't need to trash Taiwan, your very existence proofs how much of Taiwan is actually trash already icon_rolleyes.gif.
QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 23 2005, 05:13 PM)
it is china is buying alot of weapons , just like the japanese in WWII.
it is china who is afraid of america, just like the japanese in wwII.
it is china who is trying to invade neighboring nations, just like japanese.
it is china who will be defeated by america, just like japanese in WWII>
it is mainland chinese who loves to buy made in japan products. women fashion, cosmetic, houseware, cell phones. etc etc.
china = japan.
and if you look at the map of 1940's china and japan is the same country.


I can see that not only did your parents brought you to the US to hide you from the Taiwanese conscription, they also enrolled you into an inferior US school. Please go to a better school and learn about politics. Please go on google and search "US defense budget" andthen compare it with the Chinese defence budget. Once you have compared, you will realize that the number US is spending is actually higher than the Chinese number. Yes battleship, higher number is the LONGER number too. You may use your calculator to double check your results to make it easier for you. In the mean time, you may want to ask your parents why you are not in Taiwan right now putting your words to action.

"China = Japan" just contradicts with your intelligent observation of "China trying in invade neighboring countries". First you say China likes to invade other countries...andthen you say China is like Japan. But then, that can't be right...since your master President Bush has stated that Japan is the role model CHina should follow. Why do you always talk without thinking Battleship? why do you always blame China on your own problems? Why are you so affraid of China that you have to lie to yourself to make yourself feel better? Why do you constantly contradict your own arguments?

You want to know the truth Battleship? Chinese bashers like you are very scared of China. That is why your parents brought you to the states. Does that hurt? Yes Battleship, you are a conscription dodger. Can you look into the mirror and say that? You are a disgrace.

By defending your masters by bashing China, you will not be able to reach your goal of entering the Yasukuni shrine once you die. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (battleship @ Nov 23 2005, 05:13 PM)
china does not care if other chinese are being killed, raped. why should beijing care, in their mind, they are only interested in saving face, and buying more weapons and gain higher social status in the world.
my cousin is a pharmists working in china. he told me that during the SARS scare, it killed thousands of villagers and the ccp quartined and buried all the bodies, and would not allow media to print any stories on it. and recently the bird flu, we are guessing it is the same thing. and look at the AIDS in china. millions and cities and town all quartined and nothing is ever reported to news papers.
do you think china even give a rat a s s about a few thousand chinese being killed or raped?!! i don't think so.


Your cousin is a Pharmacist in China?
Your sister is also a doctor in Taiwan?

How did you even get to be so dumb? icon_rolleyes.gif Please read the news.
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