Kim Jung Il
Nov 20 2005, 12:08 PM
Most of these riots are in Muslum countries. It makes them insane.
peed
Nov 21 2005, 10:02 PM
what r u trying to say man. tis is 35 years old stories.
cool man
Dec 9 2006, 06:40 PM
The Look East Policy has taught the Malaysia government the wrong lessons. Instead of copying the work ethics of Japanese work force, the government has copied the way Japanese changed the history of its aggressions. This is applied on this textbook case.
The new-Umno formed under Dr Mahathir in 1989 can only survives via the NEP policy. The May 13 incident is just an excuse to implement NEP. That is the only thing they cared for.
It is not racist to call the Chinese go out of Malaysia, not extremist when they want to burn down the Chinese Assembly Hall, but when we talked about the special treatment of NEP, we are racist.
Last time they said 20 years, then 30 years, now 50 years and it is becoming their birthright. From a 20 years social contract becomes their birthright. To actually prolong the NEP indefinitely, the textbook is required.
One other thing which came to mind………."Education when made to serve the political purposes ended up serving no purpose."
No wonder our education system can only compete with the likes of Chad and Angola, and probably pale in comparison with that in Antigua (many Malaysians would struggle to locate it on the map).
Compare to Nigeria or Bangladesh which have and can continue export their excellent academicians to USA or Australia, but I have yet to hear of any Malaysians (other than those rejected by the Malaysia universities and subsequently emigrated overseas) or ex-lecturers from any Malaysia government-run universities recruited even in the most dubious of universities outside of Malaysia.
We are all Malaysians with a role and part to play. Is it too much to ask for truth, freedom of religion and equal treatment? Why should Umno continue to practise apartheid?
Even South Africa is more progressive and have moved away whilst Malaysia is regressing and going deeper into apartheid and everything else such as religion, employment, education, civil law, etc etc etc.
Is there any light and hope left for Malaysia going down the slippery slope into an oblivion and abyss?
BN leadership of a united, progressive, modern and harmony Malaysia is a total disgrace. We have lost 50 years of nation building!
Man, you might not have the resources and mainstream media to present the absolute truth to the ordinary people. But truth is the only way to fight BN's lies, half truths, denials and cover ups, to protect Malaysia and its ordinary people.
This textbook is a big damn lie. Sorry for swearing but that is the way people in the propaganda business try to convince the readers.
What happened after May 13 was that most citizens became traumatised and decided to leave politics to the politicians. That was our biggest mistake.
The politicians became too powerful and we all just watched and waited while all our freedoms became more restricted like the "frogs in the slow fire cooking".
So the only way to save Malaysia from another May 13 tragedy is to engage the politicians like what many are starting to do now.
Some say just talking is not good enough but talking is part of the process. Enough people must talk before actions can be taken.
I have enough of all these nonsense and distorted fact. All these Jaguh Kampung thinking that the sky is as big as the tempurung. For the time being, I will let them the freedom to masturbate and fantasize under their rotten tempurung.
General election is 1 year down the road. I have made up my mind. I will vote for PAS or KEADILAN or DAP. From now on, whatever they said or going to say, I will treat it as farting in the wind - smelly and noisy.
Umno has a strong culture of intimidation and fear.
For all these nonsense to happen to Malaysia, e.g. inefficiency of government departments, financial incompetents, gross excesses and abuses, corruptions and etc, one could only conclude that the government administration is weak and it is being grossly exploited at the great expense of Malaysia and its ordinary people with permanent and long term consequences.
Too many Malaysians have been living like "katak bawah tempurung" - they can see pass the shroud of deceit cast over their eyes. I used to be like tat too but reading especially open and mature materials opened my eyes. Working and living overseas for years also help a lot in helping me mature and hop out of the "tempurung".
Unfortunately, a lot more people are still ignorant - years after years of propaganda and manipulation of the media affected generations after generations - racial relationship and racial harmony are worsening day by day.
In secondary school days we still have several good buddies from other races. Ask any young boys now, how many friends from different races do they have? They would have a hard time answering you. Come on even in my alma mater primary school, for each primary class there is less than 5 Chinese students - how to have good racial relations like this?
Malaysians have been living in a comfort zone for too long - sooner or later this "bubble" will burst……….shake head.
Race is not an issue in Islam. Between Umno and PAS brand of Islam in relation to race, Malaysia is better with PAS.
Islam is the most misunderstood religion in the world because of the failure of their leaders to engage their followers in the progressive and modern world. Islam is tarnished and corrupted by militants and extremists Muslims for their selfish, personal and narrow political purposes.
British, Australian, American diplomats believed that the riots had a political rather than a religious origin. They generally agreed that the riots were the result of several months of criticisms by Umno on the government.
Providing distorting facts, a biased picture of the situations, and whitewashing Umno and blaming opposition party, for the incident and hope that students would accept them without question, is self defeating.
If that was possible, then the universities have succeeded in producing non-thinking robots; an outcome that should not have been the aim of the government.
But of course people cannot be fooled all the time. Students from the favoured group might be ashamed of what their leaders had done, and would not reach out to their fellow students of the different races.
History shows, as pointed out elsewhere, that whenever Umno is in trouble, incidents will be created to divert attention. Political power meant more to those in positions than the well beings of the people.
Only people with great strength, great mind and great confidence dare come to face with reality. But unfortunately, Umno does not have these great qualities! Learn it from the Germans.
This textbook only reconfirms Umno's weakness. However, it has rekindled interests in the minds of the young who do not know the "real" truth about May 13.
Now I tell my children, "Yes, the May 13 was started by Umno and now they are trying to whitewash their sins." And I have - looking back with other books written by the other writers to back up my claims.
Let us not be cowed by Umno tactic to frighten Chinese into voting for BN by playing the May 13 bogey. In other words Umno is saying, "If we lose, there will be another May 13."
The idea of admitting the truth of May 13, will never be done because it was then that the "three rails of Malaysia politics" - Special rights, NEP and Islamization, began.
Shakespeare says, "Oh, what a web we weave, when we first practise to deceive." Umno rule is not based on a set of view or principle, it is based on lies and if it cannot admit those lies sooner or later, its rule will end.
Most malays are intensely into politics from very young age from the environment they were brought up.
With the politics of religion and race to grossly inflate insecurity and fear, and the calls to battles at every meeting to fight the illusionary enemies for their survival, this has unnecessarily and irresponsibly increase their insecurity, fear and anxieties.
This has created unstable and insecure state of mind and emotion and very unhealthy environment for them to grow up - psychologically, mentally and emotionally.
It seems fighting is the only way of life and a reason to live a meaningful life. This is very sad because there is lack of faith in one's hard work and capability to achieve one's objectives and goals in life.
In murder cases, one looks for motives; the prospective beneficiary.
Byron
Dec 9 2006, 06:42 PM
Interesting article on how there were riots against African students studying in China just because they were black.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Anti-African_protests
froglee
Dec 9 2006, 06:50 PM
QUOTE(Byron @ Dec 9 2006, 06:42 PM) [snapback]2555430[/snapback]
Interesting article on how there were riots against African students studying in China just because they were black.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Anti-African_protestsTrying to diverge the topic, huh? Nice try.
MiCC
Dec 9 2006, 10:21 PM
QUOTE(Byron @ Dec 9 2006, 03:42 PM) [snapback]2555430[/snapback]
Interesting article on how there were riots against African students studying in China just because they were black.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Anti-African_protestscuz we are very protective of our women thats all, this is not a race vs race riot it is a anti-foreigner riot, to be honest i would be in it too.
northwestern_student
Dec 10 2006, 12:56 AM
byron warned for going off-topic. man who the hell resurrected this thread
froglee
Dec 10 2006, 01:44 PM
QUOTE(northwestern_student @ Dec 10 2006, 12:56 AM) [snapback]2556548[/snapback]
byron warned for going off-topic. man who the hell resurrected this thread
This topic is only two weeks old anyways.
SagaciousLuDa
Dec 10 2006, 01:54 PM
two weeks? more like a year lol
froglee
Dec 10 2006, 01:59 PM
QUOTE(SagaciousLuDa @ Dec 10 2006, 01:54 PM) [snapback]2557993[/snapback]
two weeks? more like a year lol

lol. I thought it started in 2006, not 2005
feleaz
Dec 12 2006, 04:18 AM
The riot is history now. All Malaysian do not want to go through it again.
ktchong
Dec 12 2006, 04:26 AM
The subject of this post should have been "Chinese-Malay Race Riots, 1969" -- because the "Malaysian" riots seem irrelevant in a Chinese forum.
The title post should have included a link to the
1965 Race Riot article, because the two incidents were closely related.
Indonesians and Malays have not exactly gotten along with each other. They've also had fights among themselves.
bandung
Dec 12 2006, 05:20 PM
you want to know the truth? well truth is that it all started when a malay general was sitting with his wife in a cinema. then a china man comes in with a gun and knife and says "are there any malays in here?" they turn on the lights and the malay general is there with his pregnant wife. So what happens next is the chinese gangster gets the malay women and cuts the baby out of her stomach and throws it away and then executes them both. What happened next is that they rioted.
As a malay i feel disgusted with the chinese gangster and the malay rioters but i dont hold any grudges against the nation of china for that one crime against the malay general and i dont expect you to hold any grudges against the malay nation for the action of the rioters.