xXADoBOXx
Nov 26 2005, 03:32 AM
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Nov 26 2005, 01:28 AM)
im not. i dont like mainstream filipino people, they seem vary shady and it seem like they destorying their own culture and selling out to western culture by imitating too much spanish or american. and its so ingrain culturally in the head that u gota be whiter and PRETEND to be decended from some long lost spanish royal ancestory that u are somehow better than the average filipino who is tan and dark that is naturally supposed to be. its very much self hatred.
and non culture side, its very difcult even in my own filipin family, my cousin treat my family really wrong she mistreat and use my mom for her money even though she came from the philippine with nothing, no money and place to stay, and we open our door and arms to her and now she move out and got her own place she act too snobish and uninterested and ungrateful, i think she willfully adopt american culture or either filipin culture is fuk up, my mom will not even confront her about this situation she just let it go, but im very upset with her and i wanna tell her off so bad cause i dont even think she understand how she hurt us!!!!!!! also there so much money begger in the philippine who want my mom money some more, and she give alot and sacrifce own self like doing without newer clothing, even sacrifice my college money. and now they want more still even tho we build a house for them and everyting..
so tell me what is there to be prioud of being filipino.
Yes I think your right more bad things about Filipinos than good, but I hold to whats good for me and what is right, I am blessed to have a good Filipino family who helps each other in times of crisis, my family who would never put their elders in those old people boarding house. I'm proud of that and how we seem to just get along and be calm to threads that would normaly cause a flaming war in other Asian Culture topics.
Remember filipinos are in the top 10 happiest countries around the world.
And probobly one of the least suicidal rate in Asia.
PLus all those damn tasty food!!!...

smelly and sometimes tast funny but we still love em.
==========================> lol BUSh is funny <=============
""""""" ^LOL, how can you convince us that "your story" isn't just fabricated? Sounds very much fabricated, really. biggthumpup.gif
It's nothing different to the "IMSCF Syndrome"
Terminology that you used:
filipin
filipino
philippine embarassedlaugh.gif
Hahahaha... fabricated. thumbsdown.gif
You're trying to be retarded, aren't you? Hope you really become one since it seems to be your wish. biggrin.gif """""""""""
give him a brake hes right, have an open mind.
TakTAk-Boy
Nov 26 2005, 04:40 AM
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Nov 26 2005, 01:28 AM)
im not. i dont like mainstream filipino people, they seem vary shady and it seem like they destorying their own culture and selling out to western culture by imitating too much spanish or american. and its so ingrain culturally in the head that u gota be whiter and PRETEND to be decended from some long lost spanish royal ancestory that u are somehow better than the average filipino who is tan and dark that is naturally supposed to be. its very much self hatred.
and non culture side, its very difcult even in my own filipin family, my cousin treat my family really wrong she mistreat and use my mom for her money even though she came from the philippine with nothing, no money and place to stay, and we open our door and arms to her and now she move out and got her own place she act too snobish and uninterested and ungrateful, i think she willfully adopt american culture or either filipin culture is fuk up, my mom will not even confront her about this situation she just let it go, but im very upset with her and i wanna tell her off so bad cause i dont even think she understand how she hurt us!!!!!!! also there so much money begger in the philippine who want my mom money some more, and she give alot and sacrifce own self like doing without newer clothing, even sacrifice my college money. and now they want more still even tho we build a house for them and everyting..
so tell me what is there to be prioud of being filipino.
Dude for someone who like to protray himself as a champion of the people of the philippines...you sure as hell know jack about what real filipino life is like...now i gatta ask you have you ever been to the Philippines?..have you ever been out side of the cities(provence, country side)?...have you actually met and lived with indiginous filipinos?..cuz you seem to only know crap about filipinos based on internet $hit.,,if you answer to all 3 are no then just pls STFU and actually go and see the real philippines before you go around talking $hit about something you know nothing about....these a huge difference between what someone says and whats reality. :coffee:
About your annoying b!tching about the philippines becoming to americanized well let me tell you a secret...ITS NOT JUST THE PHILIPPINES!!!!....ITS THE REST OF THE WHOLE FUKKING WORLD TOO.

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Now about your b!tching about your scumbag relatives...if it makes you feel better about your relatives being "low class" by blaming it on being filipino then go ahead.
BatangDamo
Nov 26 2005, 12:36 PM
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Mar 19 2004, 12:33 AM)
To the Filipino Posters of this site:
Have you noticed how the moderators have allowed racist and demeaning remarks towards Filipinos to go unencumbered?
This obviously shows the bias of the moderators toward these racist posters to passively promote such derogatory rhetoric.
You are not respected. And you will not be treated equally in this website. You will also be persecuted if you dare speak out against these atrocities. Therefore, I do not believe AsiaFinest is worthy of our pressence. Again, the facade of this "filipino section" is merely to coax us for malign intent into an enviornment full of unrestrained contempt and ridicule towards our people, culture, nation, being.
^Im just responding to this (since you once posted it, i never thought you would be one of those posters)
omg dalawapo... why do you always do this? come to AF Filipino chat just to talk crap and bash Filipinos in the Philippines?
Dude whats up with your beef with Filipinos? dude you said your half polynesian half black but realy hates spain... then why would you bother looking down on us Filipinos?
Whats your beef with spain? and filipinos with spanish blood? not all Filipinos have spanish blood from mexico or latin america.... how about the Filipinos that have real Spanish blood from spain? is wrong for them to claim part spanish? and if they are why hate them? what did they ever do to you?
Look, i know you told us you have dark skin.. we respect that.
But why would you make fun of some tanned Filipinos who want to have a lighter skin? Is it wrong for you? If you realy wanted to express your hate for them.. why not visit the Philipiines and tell a large number of Filipinos there that trying to have lighter skin is wrong.
And why not visit Philippines at all? or your home country polynesia? you always look down on our country and talk crap about this and that about Filipinos based on what you learn from the internet. Im sure once you've visited our country you'll understand more of our culture and people, dont rely on the net. Philippines and your home country Polynesia are a bit similar in culture and tradition.
Dude i know you just posted that comment to teach us Filipinos about what we should be doing and what you think is right, but dude you have been doing this for the past 2 years and some of your comments are offensive.
I dont know what to tell you dude, except maybe... try and visit the Philippines. Tagalog is not the only language in the Philippines, Bisaya is also widely spoken (not a secret language).. and English.
peace dude.
QUOTE (TakTAk-Boy @ Nov 26 2005, 04:40 AM)
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Nov 26 2005, 01:28 AM)
im not. i dont like mainstream filipino people, they seem vary shady and it seem like they destorying their own culture and selling out to western culture by imitating too much spanish or american. and its so ingrain culturally in the head that u gota be whiter and PRETEND to be decended from some long lost spanish royal ancestory that u are somehow better than the average filipino who is tan and dark that is naturally supposed to be. its very much self hatred.
and non culture side, its very difcult even in my own filipin family, my cousin treat my family really wrong she mistreat and use my mom for her money even though she came from the philippine with nothing, no money and place to stay, and we open our door and arms to her and now she move out and got her own place she act too snobish and uninterested and ungrateful, i think she willfully adopt american culture or either filipin culture is fuk up, my mom will not even confront her about this situation she just let it go, but im very upset with her and i wanna tell her off so bad cause i dont even think she understand how she hurt us!!!!!!! also there so much money begger in the philippine who want my mom money some more, and she give alot and sacrifce own self like doing without newer clothing, even sacrifice my college money. and now they want more still even tho we build a house for them and everyting..
so tell me what is there to be prioud of being filipino.
Dude for someone who like to protray himself as a champion of the people of the philippines...you sure as hell know jack about what real filipino life is like...now i gatta ask you have you ever been to the Philippines?..have you ever been out side of the cities(provence, country side)?...have you actually met and lived with indiginous filipinos?..cuz you seem to only know crap about filipinos based on internet $hit.,,if you answer to all 3 are no then just pls STFU and actually go and see the real philippines before you go around talking $hit about something you know nothing about....these a huge difference between what someone says and whats reality. :coffee:
About your annoying b!tching about the philippines becoming to americanized well let me tell you a secret...ITS NOT JUST THE PHILIPPINES!!!!....ITS THE REST OF THE WHOLE FUKKING WORLD TOO.

..
Now about your b!tching about your scumbag relatives...if it makes you feel better about your relatives being "low class" by blaming it on being filipino then go ahead.

BatangDamo
Nov 29 2005, 10:45 PM
^ Lol, ok.... i wasnt really from panggasinan but my mom is, my dad is Ilocano. I was born in in Davao and grew up in alabang....
but i still speak Bisaya, a little bit of Ilocano, Tagalog and Panggasinense....
um, translation.... you dont look like money,
i said, kalupam amay "duwara", meaning
"your 2 (duwara) kids looks just like you"....
ELoKwent
Nov 30 2005, 09:46 PM
there's plenty of reason why we should be proud...
I'm from Los Angeles, California... so for those of you who aren't from here lemme give you some perspective about the Filipinos here..
it's a given that we have the best food around... of course people that aren't Filipino keep eating because they really don't know what some of our dishes contain... like dunuguan..

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why am I proud to be Filipino?... well I don't want to talk about myself with such glory... BUT.. aside from me... I'm surrounded by other pinoys and pinays that are either really smart or really creative... we're very good dancers... some of us are emcees.. ahem ahem... and even though we're short.. a lot of pinoys can dominate on the basketball court regardless of whom they're playing...
Why am I proud to be Filipino?... because as a people... regardless of what is said about us as being muts... in the end we're a well balanced people containing creativity and intelligence in high caliber... we also have potential in dominating the job market as well as some sports...
need I say... we also have the hottest females around..
martin_nuke
Dec 5 2005, 10:17 PM
QUOTE (RL33 @ Dec 5 2005, 09:37 PM)
Actually now that i think about it, its people that have the same mentality as "Dalawapo(but hes not filipino so he doesnt really count)" that will kinda make you feel ashamed. That there are people out there like him that front for filipinos or pretend in Dalawapo's case. And awkward or misinformed people Martin Nuke as well...well not really ashamed but embarassed.
RL33 you know i don't like you.
my great grandfather in my mother side was a supremo of the katipunan when bonifacio died. his name is dr. pio valenzuela a real filipino and planed the philippine revolution with jose rizal and bonifacio. by the way my real name is jose martin valenzuela castañeda. i have many manuscripts pertaining to the history of the philippines and it is in the hands of my mother so i know more than you. my great grandfather in my father side is a filipino-mexican from mexico in he was a bullfighter in mexico. i am a real filipino and i am not embarrased.
according to the manuscripts, rizal was really in favor of the revolution but he wants it to be well planned, precise and well equiped with firearms because a premature revolution would just be a disaster which happened because the revolution happened prematurely and the weapons of the katipunan were just a few rifles, bolos and spears because the katipunan didn't have enough money to purchase weapons from japan which rizal sugested that the weapons will be brought hongkong to be picked up instead of picking it up at japan directly. my great grandfather was captured and brought to spain and we was tortured.
RL33 if you are a real filipino, post your real pic and i can see how filipino you are.
pilipinas_kong_mahal
Dec 12 2005, 01:08 AM
Subject: Filipinos Are Brown
From the Special issue of Light Touch Magazine, vol. 8 number 3,Copyright 2004,
Glad Tidings Publication
Filipinos are Brown. Their color is in the center of human racial strains.This point is not an attempt at racism, but just for many Filipinosto realize that our color should not be a source of or reason for inferiority complex.
While we pine for a fair complexion, the white people are religiously tanning themselves, whenever they could, under the sun or some artificial light, just to approximate the Filipino complexion.
Filipinos are a touching people. We have lots of love and are not afraid to show it. We almost inevitably create human chains with our perennial akbay (putting an arm around another shoulder), hawak (hold), yakap (embrace), himas (caressing stroke), kalabit (touch with the tip of the finger), kalong (sitting on someone else's lap), etc. We are always reaching out, always seeking interconnection.
Filipinos are linguists. Put a Filipino in any city, any town around the world. Give him a few months or even weeks and he will speak the local language there. Filipinos are adept at learning and speaking languages. In fact, it is not uncommon for Filipinos to speak at least three: his dialect, Filipino, and English. Of course, a lot speak an added language, be it Chinese, Spanish or, if he works abroad, the language of his host country. In addition, Tagalog is not 'sexist.' While many "conscious"and "enlightened" people of today are just by now striving to be "politically correct" with their language and, in the process, bend to absurd depths in coining "gender sensitive" words, Tagalog has, since time immemorial, evolved gender-neutral words like asawa (husband or wife), anak (son or daughter), magulang (father ormother), kapatid (brother or sister), biyenan ( father-in-law or mother-in-law), manugang (son or daughter-in-law), bayani (hero or heroine), etc.
Our languages and dialects are advanced and, indeed, sophisticated! It is no small wonder that Jose Rizal, the quintessential Filipino, spoke some twenty-two languages!
Filipinos are groupists. We love human interaction and company. We always surround ourselves with people and we hover over them, too. According to Dr. Patricia Licuanan, a psychologist from Ateneo and Miriam College, an average Filipino would have and know at least 300 relatives. At work, we live bayanihan (mutual help); at play, we want a kalaro (playmate) more than laruan (toy). At socials, our invitations are open and it is more common even for guests to invite and bring in other guests. In transit, we do not want to be separated from our group. So what do we do when there is no more space in a vehicle? Kalung-kalong! (Sit on one another). No one would ever suggest splitting a group and waiting for another vehicle with more space!
Filipinos are weavers. One look at our baskets, mats, clothes, and other crafts will reveal the skill of the Filipino weaver and his inclination to weaving. This art is a metaphor of the Filipino trait. We are social weavers. We weave theirs into ours that we all become parts of one another. We place a lot of premium on pakikisama (getting along) and pakikipagkapwa (relating). Two of the worst labels, walang pakikipagkapwa (inability to relate), will be avoided by the Filipino at almost any cost. We love to blend and harmonize with people, we like to include them in our "tribe," in our "family"- and we like to be included in other people's families, too. Therefore we call our friend's mother nanay or mommy; we call a friend's sister ate (eldest sister), and so on. We even call strangers tia (aunt) or tio (uncle), tatang (grandfather), etc. So extensive is our social openness and interrelations that we havespecific title for extended relations like hipag (sister-in-law's spouse), balae (child-in-law's parents), inaanak (godchild), ninong/ninang (godparents) kinakapatid (godparent's child), etc. In addition, we have the profound 'ka' institution, loosely translated as "equal to the same kind" as in kasama (of the same company), kaisa (of the same cause), kapanalig (of the same belief),etc. In our social fiber, we treat other people as co-equals. Filipinos, because of their social "weaving" traditions, make for excellent team workers.
Filipinos are adventurers. We have a tradition of separation. Our myths and legends speak of heroes and heroines who almost always get separated from their families and loved ones and are taken by circumstances to far-away lands where they find wealth or power. Our Spanish colonial history is filled with separations caused by the reduccion (hamleting), and the forced migration to build towns, churches, fortresses or galleons. American occupation enlarged the space of Filipino wandering, including America, and there are documented evidences of Filipino presence in America as far back as1587. Now, Filipinos compose the world's largest population of overseas workers, populating and sometimes "threshing" major capitals, minor towns and even remote villages around the world. Filipino adventurism has made us today's citizens of the world, bringing the bagoong (salty shrimp paste), pansit (sautéed noodles), siopao (meat-filled dough), kare-kare (peanut-flavored dish), dinuguan (innards cooked in pork blood), balut (unhatched duck egg), and adobo (meat vinaigrette), including the tabo (ladle) and tsinelas (slippers) all over the world. Filipinos are excellent at adjustments and improvisation, managing to recreate their home, or to feel at home anywhere.
Filipinos have Pakiramdam (deep feeling/discernment). We know how to feel what others feel, sometimes even anticipate what they will feel. Being manhid (dense) is one of the worst labels anyone could get and will therefore, avoid at all cost. We know when a guest is hungry though the insistence on being full is assured. We can tell if people are lovers even if they are miles apart. We know if a person is offended though he may purposely smile. We know because we feel. In our pakikipagkapwa (relating), we get not only to wear another man's shoe but also his heart.We have a superbly developed and honored gift of discernment, making us excellent leaders, counselors, and go-betweens.
Filipinos are very spiritual. We are transcendent. We transcend the physical world, see the unseen and hear the unheard. We have a deep sense of kaba (premonition) and kutob (hunch). A Filipino wife will instinctively feel her husband or child is going astray, whether or not tell tale signs present themselves.Filipino spirituality makes him invoke divine presence or intervention at nearly every bend of his journey . Rightly or wrongly, Filipinos are almost always acknowledging, invoking or driving away spirits into and from their lives. Seemingly trivial or even incoherent events can take on spiritual significance and will be given such space or consideration. The Filipino has a sophisticated, developed pakiramdam. The Filipino, though becoming more and more modern (hence, materialistic) is still very spiritual in essence. This inherent and deep spirituality makes the Filipino, once correctly Christianized, a major exponent of the faith.
Filipinos are timeless. Despite the nearly half-a-millennium encroachment of the western clock into our lives, Filipinos - unless on very formal or official functions - still measure time not with hours and minutes but with feeling. This style is ingrained deep in our psyche. Our time is diffused, not framed. Our appointments are defined by umaga (morning), tanghali (noon ), hapon (afternoon), or gabi (evening). Our most exact time reference is probably katanghaliang-tapat (highnoon), which still allows many minutes of leeway. That is how Filipino trysts and occasions are timed: there is really no definite time. A Filipino event has no clear-cut beginning nor ending. We have a fiesta , but there is bisperas (eve), a day after the fiesta is still considered a good time to visit. The Filipino Christmas is not confined to December 25th; it somehow begins months before December and extends up to the first days of January. Filipinos say good-bye to guests first at the head of the stairs, then down to the descamo (landing), to the entresuelo (mezzanine), to the pintuan (doorway), to the tarangkahan (gate), and if the departing persons are to take public transportation, up to the bus stop or bus station. In a way, other people's tardiness and extended stays can really be annoying, but this peculiarity is the same charm of Filipinos who, being governed by timelessness, can show how to find more time to be nice, kind, and accommodating than his prompt and exact brothers elsewhere.
Filipinos are Spaceless. As in the concept of time, the Filipino concept of space is not numerical. We will not usually express expanse of space with miles or kilometers but with feelings in how we say malayo (far )or malapit (near).
Alongside with numberlessness, Filipino space is also boundless.
Indigenous culture did not divide land into private lots but kept it open for all to partake of its abundance. The Filipino has avidly remained "spaceless" in many ways. The interior of the bahay-kubo (hut) can easily become receiving room, sleeping room, kitchen, dining room, chapel, wake parlor, etc. Depending on the time of the day or the needs of the moment. The same is true with the bahay na bato (stone house). Space just flows into the next space that the divisions between the sala, caida, comedor, or vilada may only be faintly suggested by overhead arches of filigree. In much the same way, Filipino concept of space can be so diffused that one 's party may creep into and actually expropriate the street! A family business like a sari-sari store or talyer may extend to the sidewalk and street. Provincial folks dry palayan (ricegrain) on the highways! Religious groups of various persuasions habitually and matter-of-factly commandeer the streets for processions and parades. It is not uncommon to close a street to accommodate private functions, Filipinos eat. sleep, chat, socialize, quarrel, even urinate, nearly everywhere or just anywhere! "Spacelessness," in the face of modern, especially urban life, can be unlawful and may really be counter-productive. On the other hand, Filipino spacelessness, when viewed from his context, is just another manifestation of his spiritually and communal values. Adapted well to today's context, which may mean unstoppable urbanization, Filipino spacelessness may even be the answer and counter balance to humanity's greed, selfishness and isolation.
So what makes the Filipino special?
We are brown, spiritual, timeless, spaceless, linguists, groupists, weavers, adventurers . . .
Seldom do all these profound qualities find personification in a people. Filipinos should allow - and should be allowed to contribute their special traits to the world-wide community of men - but first, we should know and like ourselves.
Filipinos are unique, Be Proud.