I had to mention this.

Hinduism was a product of India, but it was not isolated to India. It spread as west as Afghanistan and as east as the Malay Archipelago. It at one time conquered SE Asia, only to be replaced by Theravada Buddhism and Islam. It had Afghanistan until Persian rulers massacred the Hindus and Buddhists (and Jains) who lived there.
Hinduism was formed in India, but it expanded far and wide, only to die out.

Also regarding Hinduism "uniting all Indians"

Total BS. We all know about the Buddhist-Hindu power struggle, which was ended by the Mughals persecution of Buddhists. Obviously the Buddhists were fearing for their lives, so they converted to Islam (probably forced to, seeing that Pakistan and East Bengal were Buddhist strongholds) and some to Hinduims (I am presuming they were declared untouchables or shudra).

Also the Jains, just like the Buddhists, they are godLESS. When they pray they don't pray to gods for help etc., they pray to enlighten ones and praise them, they do this to clear their minds of thoughts therefore emulating meditation.

Also, the India 80.5% Hindu thing, you do realize that means nothing. Its jsut like xianity, a great number of people are just Hindu on paper.

India is a secular state. Religion means NOTHING. Religon ≠ Culture

Indian cultures come from food, traditions, languages, lifestyle, etc. NOT religion

A Jain, a Buddhist, a Sikh, a Jew, a Christian, or a Muslim are just as Indian as a Hindu. Why? because everything other than religion everything is constant.
Everyone speaks similar languages
Everyone eats similar foods (excluding the dietary restrictions on different peoples)
Everyone has the same Indian morals (excluding the religious morals on different peoples)
Everyone has similar traditions

Now those of you other Indians who view Hinduism as the indicator of Indian-ness, sadly you know nothing about our peoples or our cultures

That is more to do with parental neglect and ignorance of teaching the meaning of religious customs and values. You cannot claim that all Hindus are not religiously active.



Christian missionaries are anti-Hindu, muslims are anti-hindu, they are a demographic threat to the Hindus. Look at what happened in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Kashmir where Hindus were exterminated and their muslim neighbours either did nothing or joined in the fun. We can forgive muslims for becoming arabs and selling out their culture and religion under force or for profit and persecuting Hindus over the last 1000 years.. but in today's world such behaviour is unacceptable. Maybe you don't mind muslims killing your family in a future where muslims become the majority but I do.

Secularism is a joke.




Sikhism comes from Hinduism and have taken an oath to protect Hindus and rid India from Islamic tyranny. Buddhism comes from Hinduism. So naturally they are Indian.

Now the other side: Jews are insignificant but are indulging in missionary work and are anti-Hindu. Same with Christian and muslims. They are abusing the secular system.

And to add: It was the muslims in India that were more eager to have a muslim pakistan, and they are still here in India.

If anyone thinks secularism unites Indian people is downright stupid. If secularism unites us, then why did pakistan and bangladesh secede? After all they were/are Indians too!

I myself am not religious, and I don't think most younger generation are but Hinduism unites most indians. Even though hinduism is heavily disorganized, ppl find something common thru hinduism, even if their beliefs are quite different from others.

I believe in some aspects of Advaita Vedanta philosophy and my parents are the usual worshipppers of gods. Technically we don't have the same beliers but we still have something in common. Religion may not mean culture but that is only uniting factor. Because culturally speaking one region of India has nothing in common with other.

Buddhism cannot unite us because it's number are close to irrelevelent. It may have meant something in the past but now it is irrelevant.

I have no problems with jews, infact i say they should convert their entire lost tribe in NE India and go to Israel.

Religion is the highest indicator of culture.

Every Aspect of Indian society is influenced by Religion, and denial won't stop that.

First of all, I said INDIA, not the Indian Subcontinent.
The Partition was described to form Muslim Pakistan (and Bangladesh) and Secular Hindu dominant India.
The Indian government retains this stance of total secularism

Now as for that Jainism and Buddhism being from Hinduism...
Buddhist and Jain scriptures write that Jainism and Buddhism have existed forever and Mahavir and Siddartha Gautama are refounders.
Buddhism and Jainism are nontheistic, Hinduism is a monism/polytheism

H/B/J slaughter in Afghanistan was directed by Persian Invaders who brought in Muslim populations into that region

Buddhist slaughter in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Nepal was directed by Mughals (who were Mongols who converted to Islam)

Persians and Mughals spoke Persian and Urdu (Persian mixed with Hindi) respectively. Persian, Hindi, and Urdu are all Indo-Iranian languages, Persian and Urdu speakers write in Arabic script, because that is there language their religious texts are written in.

What's ur point? Are u saying secularism is responsible for everyone being united?

I'm saying religion is not what is responsible for unification

people using their BRAIN rather then religion = unity

religion is a bunch of crap