Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 03:25 PM
Where did Viet Nam and China get the habbit of eating dogs and find it acceptable? Would not others view this a barbaric? Why the state doesn't anything about it, make it outlawed? Why it is acceptable?
Cambochink488
Dec 6 2005, 03:47 PM
who cares, anything that runs with 4 legs you can eat! society says it's wrong to eat dog.
hmong_til_i_die
Dec 6 2005, 03:53 PM
how is eating dog different from eating other animal like fish,pig,cow,chicken...etc ? just because we human use dog as a pet? im not agreing that eating dog is right or wrong. i never like the idea of eathing dog but im also not agianst it.
worker_bee
Dec 6 2005, 03:56 PM
not eating dogs is immoral.
RainbowBrite
Dec 6 2005, 03:58 PM
In Africa, people have to eat bush meat i.e. MONKEYS. But it's okay to eat animals genetically similar to us. In asia, they don't have the luxury of reserving thousands of acres of land just for tasty fart machines to graze around on. In america, we euthanize, or KILL, millions of dogs and cats. Millions! Not hundreds or thousands. We burn them, inject poison into them, people even hoard them. There was case of an elderly man in America hoarding 60 cats. Some of them resorted to eating dead cat corpses just to survive. And now you think consuming dogs is bad in Asia. There are worse things you can do. So why do they do it? Survival, baby. And it's working too.
Makeshift Universe
Dec 6 2005, 04:02 PM
Where did USA and Canada get the habbit of eating cows and find it acceptable? Would not others view this a barbaric? Why the state doesn't anything about it, make it outlawed? Why it is acceptable?
Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 04:03 PM
Because people are poor and have nothing else to eat, then eating human beings is next on the list and it will work well too?
supernovasp
Dec 6 2005, 04:06 PM
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 04:03 PM)
Because people are poor and have nothing else to eat, then eating human beings is next on the list and it will work well too?
comparing human and dogs is ridiculous.
Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 04:10 PM
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Dec 6 2005, 04:06 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 04:03 PM)
Because people are poor and have nothing else to eat, then eating human beings is next on the list and it will work well too?
comparing human and dogs is ridiculous.
Is the next step up, if you find this is acceptable. I don't think it is that far a step. So what are the reasons, the boundaries.
supernovasp
Dec 6 2005, 04:14 PM
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 04:10 PM)
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Dec 6 2005, 04:06 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 04:03 PM)
Because people are poor and have nothing else to eat, then eating human beings is next on the list and it will work well too?
comparing human and dogs is ridiculous.
Is the next step up, if you find this is acceptable. I don't think it is that far a step. So what are the reasons, the boundaries.
In YOUR opinion, it is the next step up, just as Hindu Indians who find eating cows barbaric, or practicing Jews who find eating porks barbaric.
worker_bee
Dec 6 2005, 04:31 PM
Hey, HeavenandEarth, do you know what's better than a piece of dog meat? Two pieces of dog meat!

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jose cuervo
Dec 6 2005, 04:32 PM
Why is eating dogs considered to be barbaric? Because they are domesticated pets in western nations?

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Here's a few questions for the author of this thread. Who or what entity defines morality? what is acceptable and unacceptable?
It might be deemed "barbaric" in your society to eat dog meat, whereas it may not be in another nation. You don't think a strict vegan would consider consuming meat products as not barbaric?
You have a very limited understanding of different cultures and societies when you asked an utterly ignorant and repugnant question like this.
Go to your local library and do some research on this matter if you're really interested on what is "morality". A search engine like Google is only good for general information and nothing more.
toki
Dec 6 2005, 04:44 PM
QUOTE (hmong_til_i_die @ Dec 6 2005, 03:53 PM)
how is eating dog different from eating other animal like fish,pig,cow,chicken...etc ? just because we human use dog as a pet? im not agreing that eating dog is right or wrong. i never like the idea of eathing dog but im also not agianst it.
thats what i thought too. the problem is that people tend to compare too much with their own standards and say "what is wrong with them?" in examples of how the U.S. was against dog eating. they were comparing a bit too much too what their standards and not realizing that other countries are going to have different standards for meat eating. like the hindu population would never eat a cow because they worship it. but in america , its like nothing eating one. each country will have different preferences for meats.
Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 04:47 PM
One has to draw a line. Eating of dogs is a very thin line that is why most cultures and people don't find it ideal and acceptable.
It is acceptable because we eating all other meats, therefore eating dogs, whales is acceptable, except eating human meats? Eating monkey brains? Can we not draw the line a bit far back because we don't have much meat?
worker_bee
Dec 6 2005, 04:48 PM
All this talk about dog meat is making my mouth water.
Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 04:51 PM
QUOTE (worker_bee @ Dec 6 2005, 04:48 PM)
All this talk about dog meat is making my mouth water.
Is this because we don't have much meat or because we like eating it and be close to the line of eating what is acceptable, except eating human meats.
worker_bee
Dec 6 2005, 04:55 PM
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 02:51 PM)
Is this because we don't have much meat or because we like eating it and be close to the line of eating what is acceptable, except eating human meats.
Neither. It's because dog meat is the best meat there is. You should try it some time. Also, the quality of the meat varies among dog breeds. I prefer meat from golden retrievers.
Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 04:58 PM
QUOTE (worker_bee @ Dec 6 2005, 04:55 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 02:51 PM)
Is this because we don't have much meat or because we like eating it and be close to the line of eating what is acceptable, except eating human meats.
Neither. It's because dog meat is the best meat there is. You should try it some time. Also, the quality of the meat varies among dog breeds. I prefer meat from golden retrievers.
Those that have eaten human meats say the same thing, too. Best meat next to human meat? Would you like to try something better, next?
worker_bee
Dec 6 2005, 05:00 PM
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 02:58 PM)
Those that have eaten human meats say the same thing, too. Best meat next to human meat? Would you like to try something better, next?
Did those people also say that meat from golden retriever is the best meat?
hmong_til_i_die
Dec 6 2005, 05:11 PM
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 04:58 PM)
QUOTE (worker_bee @ Dec 6 2005, 04:55 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 02:51 PM)
Is this because we don't have much meat or because we like eating it and be close to the line of eating what is acceptable, except eating human meats.
Neither. It's because dog meat is the best meat there is. You should try it some time. Also, the quality of the meat varies among dog breeds. I prefer meat from golden retrievers.
Those that have eaten human meats say the same thing, too. Best meat next to human meat? Would you like to try something better, next?
those that eaten human b4 say that its the best meat there is? never heard of that once of my life. so whos say that?
Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 05:13 PM
If you have never heard people eating human meats, you will not hear the other.
southernstar
Dec 6 2005, 05:22 PM
You're ridiculous. How could eating dogs be compared to cannibalism (eating human beings)? So you're lowering yourself to the status of a dog?
I disapprove of people eating dogs but that's their choice and it's none of my business.
worker_bee
Dec 6 2005, 05:22 PM
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 03:13 PM)
If you have never heard people eating human meats, you will not hear the other.
I think you have a little problem comprehending what she/he wrote.
Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 05:23 PM
QUOTE (southernstar @ Dec 6 2005, 05:22 PM)
You're ridiculous. How could eating dogs be compared to cannibalism (eating human beings)? So you're lowering yourself to the status of a dog?
I disapprove of people eating dogs but that's their choice and it's none of my business.
Why you disapprove?
southernstar
Dec 6 2005, 05:31 PM
I disapprove because I consider it a very intelligent animal. However, others might not agree with me and I'm in no position to impose my view upon others.
You shouldn't apply your own standards on others because they also have their own standards which you don't neccessarily make the cut. Let people do whatever they want as long as it's not fundamentally immoral or illegal under the law.
Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 05:39 PM
QUOTE (southernstar @ Dec 6 2005, 05:31 PM)
I disapprove because I consider it a very intelligent animal. However, others might not agree with me and I'm in no position to impose my view upon others.
You shouldn't apply your own standards on others because they also have their own standards which you don't neccessarily make the cut. Let people do whatever they want as long as it's not fundamentally immoral or illegal under the law.
Why poeple disapprove eating human meat and impose this?
southernstar
Dec 6 2005, 05:44 PM
Because that's fundamentally immoral and illegal. Eating dog is neither immoral nor illegal in the Vietnamese cultural context. Same with Korea, China etc etc
Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 05:47 PM
QUOTE (southernstar @ Dec 6 2005, 05:44 PM)
Because that's fundamentally immoral and illegal. Eating dog is neither immoral nor illegal in the Vietnamese cultural context. Same with Korea, China etc etc
It then depends on what is fundamentally immoral and illegal? So if in one country it is not illegal to eating human meat, would you not try to "impose" something or no it is not for you to "impose"?
southernstar
Dec 6 2005, 05:54 PM
Cannibalism if universally accepted as immoral and illegal, whereas dog consumption is not.
By your own logic, you should not be allowed to eat beef because it's considered sacred to the 1 billion Hindus and pork because it's forbidden by 1 billion Muslims. Get the drift?
Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 05:56 PM
QUOTE (southernstar @ Dec 6 2005, 05:54 PM)
Cannibalism if universally accepted as immoral and illegal, whereas dog consumption is not.
By your own logic, you should not be allowed to eat beef because it's considered sacred to the 1 billion Hindus and pork because it's forbidden by 1 billion Muslims. Get the drift?
Dogs we keep as pets and treat like members of family, get the drift? A thin line.
We can find it acceptable to eat anything except human is the universial moral. The rest is not that clear or not that universial?
hmong_til_i_die
Dec 6 2005, 05:59 PM
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 05:13 PM)
If you have never heard people eating human meats, you will not hear the other.
u think i never heard of people eating human meat? i heard it but not the "human meat is the best" cuz all i heard that is from U

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southernstar
Dec 6 2005, 06:00 PM
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 05:56 PM)
QUOTE (southernstar @ Dec 6 2005, 05:54 PM)
Cannibalism if universally accepted as immoral and illegal, whereas dog consumption is not.
By your own logic, you should not be allowed to eat beef because it's considered sacred to the 1 billion Hindus and pork because it's forbidden by 1 billion Muslims. Get the drift?
Dogs we keep as pets and treat like a member of family, get the drift? A thin line.
I have a feeling that I'm talking to a retard.
What do you mean "WE"? You might keep them as pets but others might keep them for food. Get the drift? I'm sorry but you have to accept that others might not share the same values as you.
Hindus worship cows, so why aren't you worshipping them as well? Do you see the flaw in your argument?
hmong_til_i_die
Dec 6 2005, 06:01 PM
QUOTE (southernstar @ Dec 6 2005, 06:00 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 05:56 PM)
QUOTE (southernstar @ Dec 6 2005, 05:54 PM)
Cannibalism if universally accepted as immoral and illegal, whereas dog consumption is not.
By your own logic, you should not be allowed to eat beef because it's considered sacred to the 1 billion Hindus and pork because it's forbidden by 1 billion Muslims. Get the drift?
Dogs we keep as pets and treat like a member of family, get the drift? A thin line.
I have a feeling that I'm talking to a retard.
What do you mean "WE"? You might keep them as pets but others might keep them for food. Get the drift? I'm sorry but you have to accept that others might not share the same values as you.
Hindus worship cows, so why aren't you worshipping them as well? Do you see the flaw in your argument?
i had that feeling too.
bluelakedragon
Dec 6 2005, 06:03 PM
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 03:25 PM)
Where did Viet Nam and China get the habbit of eating dogs and find it acceptable? Would not others view this a barbaric? Why the state doesn't anything about it, make it outlawed? Why it is acceptable?
Vietnam started eating dogs by people in the North where they were poor and didn't have much to eat. After the War, it spreaded into the South where the VCs ruined the economy. Eating dogs - a great contribution to Vietnamese society by the Bac Viet. If you have pets in Vietnam, lock them up or else it will ended up in your stomach and you don't know it.

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jose cuervo
Dec 6 2005, 06:03 PM
@ HeavenandEarth you're implying that it is wrong to consume dog meat. Why? Is it because of the society you were brought up in?
Im going to ask you the same question in my previous post. What is consider to be moral and immoral? By what is governed and implemented by one's society?
Do you consider this to be an immoral action? If so please explain and Ill go into a simple explaination why it's not to some people.

worker_bee
Dec 6 2005, 06:04 PM
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 03:56 PM)
Dogs we keep as pets and treat like members of family, get the drift? A thin line.
We can find it acceptable to eat anything except human is the universial moral. The rest is not that clear or not that universial?
I think you're one of those PETA nuts. If you think dogs are like human, I bet you wanna have sex with them, heh? You are one sicko!
Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 06:05 PM
Eat anything except humans, a very thin line to cross. You have to be a retard to don't know this?
Happy Asian
Dec 6 2005, 06:07 PM
If eating dog is wrong then eating animals altogether is wrong, since they're all living creatures.
southernstar
Dec 6 2005, 06:08 PM
What thin line? Which physical feature of the dog that looks human?
southernstar
Dec 6 2005, 06:09 PM
QUOTE (jose cuervo @ Dec 6 2005, 06:03 PM)
@ HeavenandEarth you're implying that it is wrong to consume dog meat. Why? Is it because of the society you were brought up in?
Im going to ask you the same question in my previous post. What is consider to be moral and immoral? By what is governed and implemented by one's society?
Do you consider this to be an immoral action? If so please explain and Ill go into a simple explaination why it's not to some people.


That dog is a shark bait or something. Can't remember which western country this occurs.
worker_bee
Dec 6 2005, 06:09 PM
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 04:05 PM)
Eat anything except humans, a very thin line to cross. You have to be a retard to don't know this?
Who said eat anything except human? You're the one who have been saying that and you're also the one placing dogs on the same level as humans and possibly wanting to have sex with dogs. You are one PETA sicko! I bet your best friend is a dog!
Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 06:12 PM
QUOTE (worker_bee @ Dec 6 2005, 06:09 PM)
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 04:05 PM)
Eat anything except humans, a very thin line to cross. You have to be a retard to don't know this?
Who said eat anything except human? You're the one who have been saying that and you're also the one placing dogs on the same level as humans and possibly wanting to have sex with dogs. You are one PETA sicko! I bet your best friend is a dog!
Do other dog eaters think like this?
worker_bee
Dec 6 2005, 06:14 PM
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 04:12 PM)
Do other dog eaters think like this?
I don't know. Let me ask.
Hey, does anyone think Heavenandearth is a PETA sicko who is probably having sex with his dog which is also his best friend?
bluelakedragon
Dec 6 2005, 06:19 PM
QUOTE (jose cuervo @ Dec 6 2005, 06:03 PM)
@ HeavenandEarth you're implying that it is wrong to consume dog meat. Why? Is it because of the society you were brought up in?
Im going to ask you the same question in my previous post. What is consider to be moral and immoral? By what is governed and implemented by one's society?
Do you consider this to be an immoral action? If so please explain and Ill go into a simple explaination why it's not to some people.


If you live in a family that have a tradition of eating dogs then it seems normal to you. To me eating dogs/cats is horrible because I learned to love pets when I was young.
I think Asian people are too crazy for exotic foods. You can find all the animals on Earth in Vietnamese markets/restaurants.
hmong_til_i_die
Dec 6 2005, 06:26 PM
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 05:56 PM)
QUOTE (southernstar @ Dec 6 2005, 05:54 PM)
Cannibalism if universally accepted as immoral and illegal, whereas dog consumption is not.
By your own logic, you should not be allowed to eat beef because it's considered sacred to the 1 billion Hindus and pork because it's forbidden by 1 billion Muslims. Get the drift?
Dogs we keep as pets and treat like members of family, get the drift? A thin line.
We can find it acceptable to eat anything except human is the universial moral. The rest is not that clear or not that universial?
WE ? Anything? wow can u name those people plz?

and what about the human meat? u like it? did u try it? u most like it dont u, dont lie

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Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 06:32 PM
I heard fetus is on the menu too?
worker_bee
Dec 6 2005, 06:36 PM
QUOTE (Heavenandearth @ Dec 6 2005, 04:32 PM)
I heard fetus is on the menu too?
Oh, so now you wanna try fetus? You are one twisted sicko
hmong_til_i_die
Dec 6 2005, 06:47 PM
NO, he dont want to try teh fetus. its already been sitting in his stomach
Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 08:27 PM
bbb
Heavenandearth
Dec 6 2005, 08:32 PM
No, I have not tried it. You recommend me to try dogs first, then move to fetus and human? Do they all taste the best?
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