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East_is_red
I see many posts here degrade China and its citizens and feel the urgent need to issue this reminder to all: RESPECT THE LAND WHERE YOUR ANCESTORS CAME FROM!

Whether it is HK, Taiwan or Macau, all are in same family. Inner family quarrels can't be avoided but some statements must never be made in public or even appear in your mind, eg words relating to splitting the motherland or degrading the leaders of the motherland! People who do this are whom we called "TRAITORS" and will not have good ending!

China is a peace-loving country with no wild ambition. Respect China and you will be respected in return. Under the leadership of the Party and Central Government and immovable support of Chinese citizens, China has become the world's strongest superpower. Any ill attempt to separate the Chinese motherland will fail and will be condemned by Chinese all over the world! Such anti-Chinese efforts must end up with costly price and condemned in history forever!

In short, love your country. Love your citizens. Be proud of being a Chinese.
ckf
No, you are not Chinese. It's too obvious.
East_is_red
QUOTE (ckf @ Apr 1 2004, 07:35 AM)
No, you are not Chinese. It's too obvious.

No, I'm not, this makes me the most suitable independent person to issue the reminder.
Hiroki
????

Im not at all too happy with the CCP's handling of HK right now. Tung Chee Hwa's anti subversion law, the supressing of democratic rights and CCP's continual support for their puppet douche doesnt seem so great to me. Tell me why I should be supporting them, since you are the "most suitable independent person to issue the reminder".


btw, I have nothing but love for my father's homeland. My distaste is only for the CCP's handling of HK. So please dont overreact Kulong.... icon_rolleyes.gif
happydays
QUOTE (East_is_red @ Apr 1 2004, 08:42 AM)
QUOTE (ckf @ Apr 1 2004, 07:35 AM)
No, you are not Chinese. It's too obvious.

No, I'm not, this makes me the most suitable independent person to issue the reminder.

Not critisizing China for it's mistakes is like stalling a river's flow. There should be continous improvements based on what the people sees as injustices or better methods of taking care of business. Only then will China be able to become the strongest Nation in the World. Look at the US, there's continuous admendments to the law; new legislature is being written and voted upon as we speak. And like a river's flow, if we stopped improving, the country will become stale, and the water will no longer be with vibrant with life. Criticism is the best method of ensuring a country is a healthy nation.
happydays
If you truly love China, then you should also become an advocate of constructive criticism.

Same for the US: if you love the country, don't just back and indulge in the country's accomplishments--you should be making more changes for the better. Millions of people have been sacraficed for our ability to voice our opinions. Take care of that right, for it is the path to success.
Kulong
QUOTE (Hiroki @ Apr 1 2004, 09:41 AM)
btw, I have nothing but love for my father's homeland. My distaste is only for the CCP's handling of HK. So please dont overreact Kulong.... icon_rolleyes.gif

I could care less what individuals "feel" about China. Whether someone loves or hates something solely depends on their personal experience. No amount of convincing can change it. icon_rolleyes.gif <right back at ya>
Rad Raz
QUOTE (East_is_red @ Apr 1 2004, 05:51 AM)
China is a peace-loving country with no wild ambition. China

LoL... I wonder what the vietnamese people here would think about that statement.

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has become the world's strongest superpower.


lol world's strongest superpower? Have you ever heard of a country call "United States of America"? China has yet to become a superpower, but they are close to get there.
Kulong
QUOTE (East_is_red)
I see many posts here degrade China and its citizens and feel the urgent need to issue this reminder to all: RESPECT THE LAND WHERE YOUR ANCESTORS CAME FROM!


Yes I agree. But keep in mind that those who post offensive comments toward China and its people are non-Chinese, mostly Vietnamese. Therefore, telling them to respect the land where their ancestors came from may not be much help to your cause.

QUOTE (East_is_red)
Whether it is HK, Taiwan or Macau, all are in same family. Inner family quarrels can't be avoided but some statements must never be made in public or even appear in your mind, eg words relating to splitting the motherland or degrading the leaders of the motherland! People who do this are whom we called "TRAITORS" and will not have good ending!


While I agree that suggesting splitting China could be seen as treason, but we should allow, and even encourage constructive criticism toward the Chinese governments, be them PRC, ROC or HK.

QUOTE (East_is_red)
China is a peace-loving country with no wild ambition. Respect China and you will be respected in return. Under the leadership of the Party and Central Government and immovable support of Chinese citizens, China has become the world's strongest superpower. Any ill attempt to separate the Chinese motherland will fail and will be condemned by Chinese all over the world! Such anti-Chinese efforts must end up with costly price and condemned in history forever!


No major world power is "peace-loving". Otherwise they wouldn't rise to the level of a world power in the first place. But China in recent times is much less aggressive than some others, namely the U.S. icon_rolleyes.gif

China isn't the world's strongest superpower... yet.

But I respect your patriotism beerchug.gif
直隸總督
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Under the leadership of the Party

I love China, but I do not support CCP. Do you know how KMT lost China? Because they failed to achieve the separation of party and state, which led to horrible corruption. I see now the flaw is also haunting the Communist Party.
DAI_VIET
I saw on History Channel once about China's civil war between the Nationalists and Communists. They said that the Nationalists were corrupted and didn't have enough support as oppose to the Communists.
直隸總督
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 1 2004, 07:25 PM)
I saw on History Channel once about China's civil war between the Nationalists and Communists. They said that the Nationalists were corrupted and didn't have enough support as oppose to the Communists.

That is true.
Kulong
QUOTE (???? @ Apr 1 2004, 06:13 PM)
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Under the leadership of the Party

I love China, but I do not support CCP. Do you know how KMT lost China? Because they failed to achieve the separation of party and state, which led to horrible corruption. I see now the flaw is also haunting the Communist Party.

Yup, I agree.
IORI
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 1 2004, 07:25 PM)
I saw on History Channel once about China's civil war between the Nationalists and Communists. They said that the Nationalists were corrupted and didn't have enough support as oppose to the Communists.

Not quite true for its part it had more members than the communist party(my grandfather included) and a greater force but was corrupted by chiang kai shek.

The nationalist party fell out of favour with the chinese peasantry who got impatient with KMT corruption was convinced by mao zedong that he was the better leader since mao was supposed to represent them and chiang was a right winger.

chiang also made the mistake of purging communist party members and kicking them out which IMHO prevented democracy because i believe sun yat sen was trying to unify the 2 parties to share rule over china but the plan was destroyed by chiang.
Kulong
QUOTE (IORI @ Apr 1 2004, 09:14 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 1 2004, 07:25 PM)
I saw on History Channel once about China's civil war between the Nationalists and Communists. They said that the Nationalists were corrupted and didn't have enough support as oppose to the Communists.

Not quite true for its part it had more members than the communist party(my grandfather included) and a greater force but was corrupted by chiang kai shek.

The nationalist party fell out of favour with the chinese peasantry who got impatient with KMT corruption was convinced by mao zedong that he was the better leader since mao was supposed to represent them and chiang was a right winger.

chiang also made the mistake of purging communist party members and kicking them out which IMHO prevented democracy because i believe sun yat sen was trying to unify the 2 parties to share rule over china but the plan was destroyed by chiang.

Both of my grandfathers were ROC Air Force Majors. What was your grandfather in? Army? Navy? Air Force?

Dr. Sun Yatsen indeed wish for both KMT and CCP to work together to form a multi-party democratic China. But the civil war shouldn't all be blamed on Jiang Jieshi (Chiang Kaishek), the ideology of KMT and CCP are just too different, much like today's KMT and DPP sure.gif
tongbao_vince
QUOTE (IORI @ Apr 1 2004, 10:14 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 1 2004, 07:25 PM)
I saw on History Channel once about China's civil war between the Nationalists and Communists. They said that the Nationalists were corrupted and didn't have enough support as oppose to the Communists.

Not quite true for its part it had more members than the communist party(my grandfather included) and a greater force but was corrupted by chiang kai shek.

The nationalist party fell out of favour with the chinese peasantry who got impatient with KMT corruption was convinced by mao zedong that he was the better leader since mao was supposed to represent them and chiang was a right winger.

chiang also made the mistake of purging communist party members and kicking them out which IMHO prevented democracy because i believe sun yat sen was trying to unify the 2 parties to share rule over china but the plan was destroyed by chiang.

Fairly accurate. Chaing horded the American aid while the peasents died int he countryside. Chaing withdrew when the Japanese advanced, leavinging nobody to stop them. Corruption of the generals prevented medical supplies and food from raeching the cities. The generals sold their weapons on the black market. Don't forget a HUGE number of KMT soldiers deserted tot he CCP.
chynagongju
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 1 2004, 10:22 PM)
Both of my grandfathers were ROC Air Force Majors. What was your grandfather in? Army? Navy? Air Force?

I know this isn't directed towards me, but anyways, my grandfather was Air Force KMT. [I think. Definitely Air Force though.]

I appreciate East_is_Red's attempt to promote loving the motherland so to speak, however, as it has been mentioned, there is no way that China is the superpower. And you may perceive China as peace-loving with no wild ambition, but I don't really see China in that light. As a Chinese, I feel that China is undoubtedly hoping to move forward, and up on the ladder in the international community. [But honestly, which country doesn't want to move up? sure.gif] And we are peace-loving, sure, as long as it's in our best interests. Every nation thinks in its best interests, whether that means they need war to "save them" or for the moment, be instilled in peace.

I applaud all of China's efforts over the past years in their growing economy, expanding technology, and moving slowly towards a more capitalistic and democratic government. [Very slowly I might add, so I don't get some reply saying how China isn't etc etc.]
triangle
CHINESE MUST RESPECT CHINA!
CHINESE RE FROM CHINA!
RESPECT UR MOTHERLAND!
TRAITOR LIKE CHINESE WHO WORSHIP JAPANESE WILL DIE. AND THEY MUST DIE!
TRAITOR OF CHINESE WILL DIE!
U DEAM TRAITOR, LISTEN TO ME! U WILL DIE! CHINA WILL DILL U WHEN THE TIME HAVE COME! NO MATTER WHERE U HIDE, U.S ANYWHERE ELSE, U WILL DIE! TRAITOR MUST DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE!
Kulong
QUOTE (triangle @ Apr 2 2004, 02:33 PM)
CHINESE MUST RESPECT CHINA!
CHINESE RE FROM CHINA!
RESPECT UR MOTHERLAND!
TRAITOR LIKE CHINESE WHO WORSHIP JAPANESE WILL DIE. AND THEY MUST DIE!
TRAITOR OF CHINESE WILL DIE!
U DEAM TRAITOR, LISTEN TO ME! U WILL DIE! CHINA WILL DILL U WHEN THE TIME HAVE COME! NO MATTER WHERE U HIDE, U.S ANYWHERE ELSE, U WILL DIE! TRAITOR MUST DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE!

A little extrem there buddy... sure.gif
triangle
QUOTE
A little extrem there buddy...

I just read news about how chinese traitor!!!
And i cant stand it anymore!!!!
WE CHINESE MUST NOT DIVIDE! WE MUST BE STRONG! OR ELSE THE U.S WILL fu-k US! WE MUST NOT WEAK! WE MUST STAND TOGETHER! WE ARE THE CHINESE! 3000 YEARS OF HISTORY! WE MUST STAND TOGETHER!

IF WE DIDIVE WE WILL BE LIKE IN WW2! WE MUST NOT LET HISTORY REPEAT!
AtlantisStar
..... lovely

i thought it was 5000 years of history
Kulong
QUOTE (triangle @ Apr 2 2004, 02:40 PM)
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A little extrem there buddy...

I just read news about how chinese traitor!!!
And i cant stand it anymore!!!!
WE CHINESE MUST NOT DIVIDE! WE MUST BE STRONG! OR ELSE THE U.S WILL fu-k US! WE MUST NOT WEAK! WE MUST STAND TOGETHER! WE ARE THE CHINESE! 3000 YEARS OF HISTORY! WE MUST STAND TOGETHER!

IF WE DIDIVE WE WILL BE LIKE IN WW2! WE MUST NOT LET HISTORY REPEAT!

I believe most of us here know that icon_smile.gif There is no need to get angry icon_smile.gif Have a Qingdao beerchug.gif biggrin.gif

QUOTE (AtlantisStar)
i thought it was 5000 years of history


It's anywhere from 5,000 - 3,000 depending on where and who is counting sure.gif
triangle
QUOTE
..... lovely

i thought it was 5000 years of history

Im not sure! ya i think is around 4000 to 5000 years of history.
AtlantisStar
请不要战斗。
triangle
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请不要战斗。

I dont think u know how to write in chinese!
u use the online translation service to translate! u are not a chinese! if u are! u must die! u are a traitor of chinese!
Kulong
QUOTE (triangle @ Apr 2 2004, 02:48 PM)
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??????

I dont think u know how to write in chinese!
u use the online translation service to translate! u are not a chinese! if u are! u must die! u are a traitor of chinese!

AtlantisStar happens to be half Chinese half Japanese, she knows both languages.

Calm down, triangle, if you wish to remain unbanned on AF.
triangle
QUOTE
AtlantisStar happens to be half Chinese half Japanese, she knows both languages.

Calm down, triangle, if you wish to remain unbanned on AF.

So she is a Japanese or Chinese?
Kulong
QUOTE (triangle @ Apr 2 2004, 02:54 PM)
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AtlantisStar happens to be half Chinese half Japanese, she knows both languages.

Calm down, triangle, if you wish to remain unbanned on AF.

So she is a Japanese or Chinese?

She is both, not drop it triangle... please
triangle
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She is both, not drop it triangle... please

OK, but look like she worship the Japanese more!
Kulong
QUOTE (triangle @ Apr 2 2004, 02:59 PM)
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She is both, not drop it triangle... please

OK, but look like she worship the Japanese more!

Whatever she chooses is her business.
Ogumo
QUOTE (triangle @ Apr 2 2004, 03:33 PM)
CHINESE MUST RESPECT CHINA!
CHINESE RE FROM CHINA!
RESPECT UR MOTHERLAND!
TRAITOR LIKE CHINESE WHO WORSHIP JAPANESE WILL DIE. AND THEY MUST DIE!
TRAITOR OF CHINESE WILL DIE!
U DEAM TRAITOR, LISTEN TO ME! U WILL DIE! CHINA WILL DILL U WHEN THE TIME HAVE COME! NO MATTER WHERE U HIDE, U.S ANYWHERE ELSE, U WILL DIE! TRAITOR MUST DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE!

That was funny.

As for this.

OK, but look like she worship the Japanese more!

Should she "worship" the chinese more?
triangle
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That was funny.

U DEAM JAPANESE!
u kill chinese in WW2! and now u laugh at Chinese?
you deam evil c@ck. we never fu-k ur peoples and u kill so many chinese! u deam japanese! WE! CHINA! will rise! AND ONE DAY! WE WILL! and WE WILL! DESTROY UR JAPANESE! AND BRING U BACK TO DARK! U KILL TOO MANY CHINESE! one day u will see a nuclear smash into ur homeland and u will see all Japanese DEAD! old man, kids, girl all die! just like u kill us in WW2! we will never forget!

China is rising and U Japanese! watch up!
triangle
dont push china too much u japanese!
we now already can easily wipe u out! and bring ur peoples to HELL! HELL! U understand HELL!!! HELL!!
triangle
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Apr 2 2004, 04:27 PM)
QUOTE (triangle @ Apr 2 2004, 04:16 PM)
QUOTE
That was funny.

U DEAM JAPANESE!
u kill chinese in WW2! and now u laugh at Chinese?
you deam evil c@ck. we never fu-k ur peoples and u kill so many chinese! u deam japanese! WE! CHINA! will rise! AND ONE DAY! WE WILL! and WE WILL! DESTROY UR JAPANESE! AND BRING U BACK TO DARK! U KILL TOO MANY CHINESE! one day u will see a nuclear smash into ur homeland and u will see all Japanese DEAD! old man, kids, girl all die! just like u kill us in WW2! we will never forget!

China is rising and U Japanese! watch up!

"dont push china too much u japanese!
we now already can easily wipe u out! and bring ur peoples to HELL! HELL! U understand HELL!!! HELL!! "

Clearly you are the one that was pushing me. Violent chinese I cannot get enough. Alas I wish every japanese person could see the things that chinese and koreans have to say. Anyway enjoy your stay on AF. Have fun now.

Welcome to the forum.

Haha, you know its not too often we get a chinese like you here. Thanks for showing up. Bring some of your friends next time.

"U DEAM JAPANESE!
u kill chinese in WW2! and now u laugh at Chinese?
you deam evil c@ck. we never fu-k ur peoples and u kill so many chinese! u deam japanese! WE! CHINA! will rise! AND ONE DAY! WE WILL! and WE WILL! DESTROY UR JAPANESE! AND BRING U BACK TO DARK! U KILL TOO MANY CHINESE! one day u will see a nuclear smash into ur homeland and u will see all Japanese DEAD! old man, kids, girl all die! just like u kill us in WW2! we will never forget!

China is rising and U Japanese! watch up!"

Ok...Such a violent and blood thirsty chinese person. Wow and I thought we japanese had the monopoly on that.

"WE WILL! and WE WILL! DESTROY UR JAPANESE!"

Mmm....revenge eh? That is fair ambition. I must agree. But that point hopefully japan will have nuclear weapons. Just enough to retaliate and destroy china if such an event ever comes to pass. Read my signature. This is one of the reasons I thirst for japan to re arm. We can never be to trusting of our neighbors now can we? Perhaps not all chinese are like you...but a significant portion are. That cannot be ignored.

"U KILL TOO MANY CHINESE!"

U EAT TOO MUCH LEAD.

"one day u will see a nuclear smash into ur homeland and u will see all Japanese DEAD! old man, kids, girl all die! just like u kill us in WW2! we will never forget!"

Amen. Japan cant win a nuclear war with china. But then again in nuclear war there are no winners. If what you say does happen I honestly hope japan can retaliate with her own nuclear attack. Haha alas then america and white people would dominate the world forever. I guess that is the price to pay.


"dont push china too much u japanese!
we now already can easily wipe u out! and bring ur peoples to HELL! HELL! U understand HELL!!! HELL!! "

Clearly you are the one that was pushing me. Violent chinese I cannot get enough. Alas I wish every japanese person could see the things that chinese and koreans have to say. Anyway enjoy your stay on AF. Have fun now.

ReARM?
HAHAHAHA!
Dont forgot u Japan is only a small island! before u rearm, u alredy destroyed by nuclear! and there are no more japan anymore! you understand! u are gone! before u fight back u are gone! u understand what i mean! u all japanese are the same! evil, and think you are the best!

China will wipe u first! u will see one day.
triangle
1) Japanese is a small island
2) Japanese want to build up their militiary
3) Ok, before u japanese build up your militiary
4) We chinese will destroy u first
5) By one nuclear bomb
6) throw in ur island
7) And the second day, Japan is gone

LAST:
Japan is no more! before u rearm u are dead! from that time begin, there are no more japanese anymore.
triangle
Who the fu-k are u talking to Mr Ogumo!
Do u know what's Huaren mean! it mean CHINESE! In Chinese!
in mean u are talking to every Chinese! deam u are really disrespecting the Chinese! What i said is right, u japanese are all evil! I dont understand why u peoples are like that! China must bring u to hell before you kill more peoples!
Ogumo
QUOTE (triangle @ Apr 2 2004, 04:42 PM)
1) Japanese is a small island
2) Japanese want to build up their militiary
3) Ok, before u japanese build up your militiary
4) We chinese will destroy u first
5) By one nuclear bomb
6) throw in ur island
7) And the second day, Japan is gone

LAST:
Japan is no more! before u rearm u are dead! from that time begin, there are no more japanese anymore.

Come now huaren. Give the chinese more credit than that. Chinese by far are not stupid people. Attacking japan would give america a excuse to attack or take hostile measures against china. Japan would be safe to re arm. Though of course chinese and koreans would complain.

Also.

1) Japanese is a small island

Japan is a series of islands. Though yes much much smaller than china. Nations smaller than japan could put up a fight if they had the proper weapons and capital.
Ogumo
QUOTE (triangle @ Apr 2 2004, 04:47 PM)
Who the fu-k are u talking to Mr Ogumo!
Do u know what's Huaren mean! it mean CHINESE! In Chinese!
in mean u are talking to every Chinese! deam u are really disrespecting the Chinese! What i said is right, u japanese are all evil! I dont understand why u peoples are like that! China must bring u to hell before you kill more peoples!

Haha "mr ogumo".

"Do u know what's Huaren mean! it mean CHINESE! In Chinese!"

I knew exactly what it meant. But I was refering to your other screen name. "HUAREN". You were recently banned and now you have shown up again. You have also joined the chinese nationalist alliance huaren. I have read each of your responses. I was quite disgusted. I also saw the recent thread where you were talking about a "offensive" af thread. Haha do you think that you of ALL people have the right to complain about someone else being offensive? Hipocracy.


"What i said is right, u japanese are all evil!"

Thats correct chinese saint. I suppose I will have to put on my "i hate chinese people" shirt. Fake evil mustache and go kill some chinese children with my red pitch fork.


"I dont understand why u peoples are like that! China must bring u to hell before you kill more peoples!"

Uh huh. Japan must re arm to defend her self from chinese and north koreans that share your views. These days the old constitution is unfair to japanese. Our neighbors now threaten us. It is time to throw down the 50 year old bondage that has been cast upon us Macarthur.

I have given my message. I am now done with you huaren. Thank you for your time great chinese crusader.
DaMo
QUOTE (triangle @ Apr 2 2004, 02:33 PM)
CHINESE MUST RESPECT CHINA!
CHINESE RE FROM CHINA!
RESPECT UR MOTHERLAND!
TRAITOR LIKE CHINESE WHO WORSHIP JAPANESE WILL DIE. AND THEY MUST DIE!
TRAITOR OF CHINESE WILL DIE!
U DEAM TRAITOR, LISTEN TO ME! U WILL DIE! CHINA WILL DILL U WHEN THE TIME HAVE COME! NO MATTER WHERE U HIDE, U.S ANYWHERE ELSE, U WILL DIE! TRAITOR MUST DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE!

Is it still April Fool's day in China? sure.gif
Rad Raz
ha haha... that guy is hilarious.
DAI_VIET
Kulong, your signature says "Big" "Middle" and something else, what is it? Is it "Kingdom?"
Kulong
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 2 2004, 04:28 PM)
Kulong, your signature says "Big" "Middle" and something else, what is it? Is it "Kingdom?"

It says "Da Zhonghua", as in the clan biggrin.gif

"Kingdom" (guo/quoc) looks like this
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 2 2004, 05:30 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 2 2004, 04:28 PM)
Kulong, your signature says "Big" "Middle" and something else, what is it? Is it "Kingdom?"

It says "Da Zhonghua", as in the clan biggrin.gif

"Kingdom" (guo/quoc) looks like this

Thanks. But, ahmmm... "zhonghua" has two characters, as your signature says. But why do you write it as 2 words? And what does "zhonghua" mean?
Kulong
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 2 2004, 04:33 PM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 2 2004, 05:30 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 2 2004, 04:28 PM)
Kulong, your signature says "Big" "Middle" and something else, what is it? Is it "Kingdom?"

It says "Da Zhonghua", as in the clan biggrin.gif

"Kingdom" (guo/quoc) looks like this

Thanks. But, ahmmm... "zhonghua" has two characters, as your signature says. But why do you write it as 2 words? And what does "zhonghua" mean?

What do you mean by why I write it as two words?

Zhonghua means Chinese, or rather the Chinese identity. It was formed by the Manchu during the Qing dynasty to unify the five ethnic groups in China, Han, Man (Manchu), Meng (Mongol), Hui (Muslims), Zang (Tibetan).

Even today, the formal name for both Republic of China and People's Republic of China have "Zhonghua" in it.

Republic of China = Zhonghua Minguo
People's Republic of China = Zhonghua Remin Gongheguo
tqt
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China is a peace-loving country with no wild ambition. China 


LoL... I wonder what the vietnamese people here would think about that statement


I'm Vietnamese and my response is embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
Kulong
QUOTE (tqt @ Apr 2 2004, 04:39 PM)
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China is a peace-loving country with no wild ambition. China 


LoL... I wonder what the vietnamese people here would think about that statement


I'm Vietnamese and my response is embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

You forgot to add "Chinese-hating" infront of Vietnamese.
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 2 2004, 05:37 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 2 2004, 04:33 PM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 2 2004, 05:30 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 2 2004, 04:28 PM)
Kulong, your signature says "Big" "Middle" and something else, what is it? Is it "Kingdom?"

It says "Da Zhonghua", as in the clan biggrin.gif

"Kingdom" (guo/quoc) looks like this

Thanks. But, ahmmm... "zhonghua" has two characters, as your signature says. But why do you write it as 2 words? And what does "zhonghua" mean?

What do you mean by why I write it as two words?

Zhonghua means Chinese, or rather the Chinese identity. It was formed by the Manchu during the Qing dynasty to unify the five ethnic groups in China, Han, Man (Manchu), Meng (Mongol), Hui (Muslims), Zang (Tibetan).

Even today, the formal name for both Republic of China and People's Republic of China have "Zhonghua" in it.

Republic of China = Zhonghua Minguo
People's Republic of China = Zhonghua Remin Gongheguo

Oh, I gotcha. Man, I didn't know that "Zhonghua" means Chinese. I thought it was something along the line like "middle nation." And where does "middle" come in to that?

Anyways, I'll have to wait for next year to learn it then. Thanks though. beerchug.gif
Kulong
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 2 2004, 04:42 PM)
Oh, I gotcha. Man, I didn't know that "Zhonghua" means Chinese. I thought it was something along the line like "middle nation." And where does "middle" come in to that?

Anyways, I'll have to wait for next year to learn it then. Thanks though. beerchug.gif

Zhongguo is "Middle Kingdom", which is the name used to refer to the "non-political" China.
supernovasp
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 2 2004, 05:42 PM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 2 2004, 05:37 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 2 2004, 04:33 PM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 2 2004, 05:30 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 2 2004, 04:28 PM)
Kulong, your signature says "Big" "Middle" and something else, what is it? Is it "Kingdom?"

It says "Da Zhonghua", as in the clan biggrin.gif

"Kingdom" (guo/quoc) looks like this

Thanks. But, ahmmm... "zhonghua" has two characters, as your signature says. But why do you write it as 2 words? And what does "zhonghua" mean?

What do you mean by why I write it as two words?

Zhonghua means Chinese, or rather the Chinese identity. It was formed by the Manchu during the Qing dynasty to unify the five ethnic groups in China, Han, Man (Manchu), Meng (Mongol), Hui (Muslims), Zang (Tibetan).

Even today, the formal name for both Republic of China and People's Republic of China have "Zhonghua" in it.

Republic of China = Zhonghua Minguo
People's Republic of China = Zhonghua Remin Gongheguo

Oh, I gotcha. Man, I didn't know that "Zhonghua" means Chinese. I thought it was something along the line like "middle nation." And where does "middle" come in to that?

Anyways, I'll have to wait for next year to learn it then. Thanks though. beerchug.gif

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I just figured that out, thank you. And what's with the embarassedlaugh.gif ?
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