elaborate your thought on the relationship. i would appreciate it if your could give some constructive, logical ones. insulting individuals is strictly prohibited. exchange ideas, opinions, not attacking person who give opinions.. thanks in advance.

china is growing fast while korea already became full-fledged developed nation. unfortunately hostility of chinese, korean people against japan still remains. who gains from there ? the us can leverage the hostility to stay influential on the east asia. is it the best option for the east asians ?

Most 90% of today's korean teens don't hold any hostile or grudge against japan. Probably they got tired of hating on japan, or started admiting the past and deal with the present day and future. Now they actually admit japanese cultures, and some other japanese stuffs. Only old generations and radical korean teens hold grudge against japanese.
Actually korea and japan are doing great in these days, and no not in political way.


And cutdown the size of that damn signature of yours.

JackWang, your signature image is way too huge. You need to change it soon, or the mods will get on your case.

thank you for the good news. korea is now greatest interms of technologies. kpop is also hot. korea and japan will be able to resolve the north issue together with each other.

<JackWang, your signature image is way too huge. You need to change it soon, or the mods will get on your case. >

i will consult someone, thanks for your sound advice.

it seems that people love to insult someone but they don't give their thought constructive, that lets me a bit sad.

I think the relationship between China and Japan is extremely skewed in favor of Japan.

On the one hand, you have Chinese nipponphiles such as yourself (fact, not insult) drooling over the table crumbs of Japanese commercial pop culture. You buy Japanese products, worship their anime and pop entertainment, and support their porn industry with your father's hard earned salary as a coal miner.

On the other hand, you have the Japanese, arrogantly scoffing at the Chinese. Discriminating against them, lying about the past, offending the Chinese through war criminal worship, etc. And Chinese nipponphiliacs only aggravate the situation by kow-towing before the Japanese, like cultural slaves, giving them more reason to scoff.

Just my humble opinion, my good scum... I mean, sir.

P.S: Nice Signature, Jack Wang. ::snicker::

I think the relationship between China and Japan is extremely skewed in favor of Japan.

Do you honestly believe this xiao rong ji? Indeed there is a significant portion of japanese that discriminate against chinese. The chinese are also guilty of similar I am sure. As openly anti japan as chinese people are is there is no way that japanese people are not discriminated against. I am not saying the majority of chinese are like this but I am sure there is a significant portion. Someone once told me here how open minded and tolerant chinese people are. For the most part he was probably correct. But I do have the feeling that chinese openmindedness closes when japanese people come into play. Xiao rong ji despite what you may believe. Japanese are not the only ones guilty of ignorance.
I think the relationship between China and Japan is extremely skewed in favor of Japan

Anyway back to that quote "I think the relationship between China and Japan is extremely skewed in favor of Japan". Even if that is true today. That will not be true this century. It will be japan that will receive the unfair end.

Based on my previous observations, I think there are much more Chinese nipponphiles than anti-Japanese Chinese. I mean, look at this forum. Most of the people here with Japanese handles are actually Chinese nipponphiles. On the other hand, the only stories I've heard about Japanese attitudes toward China is either discrimination, condescension or indifference.

Well if those were the only stories you have heard I can understand. As for "Based on my previous observations, I think there are much more Chinese nipponphiles than anti-Japanese Chinese. I mean, look at this forum. Most of the people here with Japanese handles are actually Chinese nipponphiles." I find that hard to believe. High numbers of japanese obsessed chinese? If that is the case I cant see them being obsessed with japan in a loving way... You must have some other ground for that comment other than using this forum as a example. Yes perhaps there are many chinese with japanese sn here. Perhaps there is a high number of nihonphile types. It isnt a representation of the rest of the world my friend. I am sure you already know this. A counter arguement could be made that there is nihonphiles here but there is also a large number of anti japan chinese on the cna.

Yea.. My recent immigrant koreans friend said that they just don't like them a little bit or something like that when I asked them if they hate the japanese.

The only stories you've "heard"???

Oh comon please.

You seriously need to get out more and stop this second hand information that your smoking.

I'm sure the stories coming up with japan doesn't only pertain to chinese discrimination.

generally, people love good guy and hate bad guy. and you say,

<Based on my previous observations, I think there are much more Chinese nipponphiles than anti-Japanese Chinese. I mean, look at this forum. Most of the people here with Japanese handles are actually Chinese nipponphiles. On the other hand, the only stories I've heard about Japanese attitudes toward China is either discrimination, condescension or indifference. >

that implies japanese are good, chinese are bad guy. right ?

i also think your observation is correct. but i find the other reason than the above mentioned.

You must be describing your avatar or your old singature. No offence but I have to say that the girl look like a piece of $hit to me.

Well, cannot really say there is a positive relationship, personally.
All three Asian countries has been attacked or bombed by the U.S..

there's a reason for you to find a lot of nipponphiles out there while you can't find chinaphiles anywhere. japan developed its nicety through its show biz effort. japan's got a lot of asian stars, such as speed, amuro, ayu, yamaguchi momoe, gackt, and so on. you must also know boa from korea. she's actually korean star. but she's wise enough to sell herself not only korea, but also in japan where longer show biz history and bigger audience are made. from taiwan, vivian sue went to japan. she was a bit porn star in taiwan. but japanese people warmly wellcome her as being a cute, funny girl. so she had never been obliged to show her naked figure again. if she didn't go to japan, she must have become a full fledged porn girl in taiwan or china. it seems to me that japanese have no prejudice against a girl without virginity. even a former porn srtar can become a full fledged celebrity without performing sex before camera again. ai iijima, a former porn star, is now famous, respected wrinter and entertainer. she no more needs to provide sexual services. teen girl singers aren't seen virgin in japan. but no one blame them. in japan, the more a girl is attractive, the more she likely enjoys sex with more men. by dating many males, the girls become sexier. it's good thing in japan.

japan may have a well developed "show biz" but dat doesn't mean its anymore developed den china or korea
IMO, has a better "show biz", look at k-pop and k-drama
arguably the best music and drama produced in asia comes from korea
china's "show biz" isn't as good as japan or korea, but its getting there, and c-drama is pretty good too
as a matter of fact, most of my friends who r chinesehaven't even heard of those japanese artists u just listed, but dey know like almost every korean artist
the main reasons the chinese i know became nipponphiles is bcuz of anime and "cute japanese guys"
so u can't say sat dat der r nipponphiles bcuz

i almost agree to you. korean show biz is becoming popular among asians. i also love the music taste as well as dansing. they look more powerful than j-pop. boa for instance is already top artist in japan as well as in korea. k-drama is also increasing popular among japanese. but unfortunately chinese one are far behind them. by the way, boa is excellent singer. her dancing is very sexy. but somehow i feel her being less sexy. it's because her figure is too slim. my general impression on korean girls is slim. is it because they eat kimchee ? i guess kimchee stimulates metabolism then they get slim. in don't hate slim girl but am in fovor of wealthy bust. those combined are the best.

wtf is this scum talking about? son of a b!tch!

Wang suffers from a severe form of Self-Hating Chinese Syndrome. He is beyond hope. His only good in life is to be thrown in a meat grinder and transformed into fertilizer.

Just ignore that fu-king c@ck $hit. Jack Wang is nothing but just a Japanese dog. Anyway, he is not a Chinese, so just ignore that stupid fools.

Wow... every culture is so similar in one form or another, and that is hatred.

In here, we find Vietnamese vs. Khmers, and Chinese vs. Japanese. Although the so called "war" that is between the Chinese and Japanese is not as "hot" as the war between the Vietnamese and Khmers.


Rock on!

you made good point. my message is that chinese can love japanese culture. i can't understand why they can't. they never respond to my message, instead insulting me. i can understand why they can't understand the value of japanese culture. japanese might be more open in sex. but i know that normal chinese college girls do prostitution to make ends to meet in their life. typical chinese people simply don't know that. so there's no big difference between china and japan. since china has a lot bigger, some chinese may be far more open in sex. look at the recent issue that chinese restaurant hire college students, ask them to put off all their clothe and lay down on a table. they put cuisine on the naked girl. the customers enjoyed eating and beauty of the student. i never hear that happened in japan.

I took some time reading the entire thread. I found that certain members here judge nations on their "pop cultures" and "TV dramas". Please grow up. Every country has its own history ,own future and own national policy, you can't really compare which one is better because of current achievements. For example, imagine if USA didn't invest Japan during Korean War and Vietnam War, instead, Japan went through a series of civil wars, communism and isolation, would it be what it is today? I'm not whining about how bad China has gone through, but comparing different countries on "show biz effort" is quite immature and ridiculous.

i respect vietnamese and korean people. they've kept their independence from china. many of chinese people from minor tribes abandoned their identification hundreds year ago. they all see themselves simply chinese. thailand and japan are the only countries that weren't invaded, have kept independence from any of other nations. that's why japanese people respect thais. they do muethai that japanese see the strongest fighting. by the way vietnamese is one of japanese ancestors. so if they go to japan. they can be a good friend of japanese people. unfortunately chinese can't be japanese friend because they simply do prostitute on the shinjuku streets. i hear vietnamese people are more intelligent than our people. i respest you, vietnamese, but i feel sad i can't respect my ellow chinese.

there used to be firm boundary betwenn porn star and pop star. nowadays the boundary is blurred. even pop star shows her naked figure, does sex before cmera while porn star girl write books and appear on decent tv programme. i like this bouder-less atomosphere. you get complete freedom in tokyo.

so you don't respect your own people because some women do prostitution on a Japanese street ?

Jack @$$, if this is not online, you are already dead by now.
Anyway, he is not a chinese. just ignore him. I dont bother him at all. Everything he said is unlogic and false.

From my research, he maybe is a Japanese who claim himself as a chinese and try to make the Chinese look bad. Anyway, all my chinese fellows, ignore him.

is the girl your lover ? have you already done it with her ? she's sophisticated like japanese girl, like aomori girl. i guess she is from korea. right ? are her boobs wealthy ? then she must have been from aomori.

She's not my girl, I've never done anything with her. She's not from Korea, she's not like Japanese. oh by the way, She's a Chinese, whom you don't respect.

You know what I can easily create a Japanese screenname and chat like that.

oh, am i a japanese ? prove it. there's no strange thing for chinese who lives in freedom cenfess they don't like mainland china.

Oh. you are a chinese? than prove it. Stupid cocksucker.

You can love another culture without degrading your own.

I know I made some very harsh anti-German comments earlier, but I actually admire the German people. As a math student, I'm just astounded by the over-representation of German mathematical innovations (considering it's size): Eigenvalues, Schur's Theorem, Z, Eisenstein's Theorem, Caucy-Swartz Inequality, Gauss, Leibniz... anyways.

But you don't see me degrading my own people like. "I'm is so very ashamed of stupid Chinese mathematicians who are like weak dog compared to great genius Germans. We are mentally retarded like a infectious baby. We need thank Germans for teaching us maths. Don't bite the mother than feeds with hand, just like you bite German, no?"

By the way, go to hell Wang.



Oh really? Is that why during the Vietnam War, the Japanese repeatedly refused to accept Vietnamese refugees despite heavy pressure from America. The few Vietnamese who actually made in into Japan were treated with such discrimination and prejudice, they eventually went back to Vietnam where they probably died. Heh, I guess the Japanese didn't want any more "genetic pollution" floating into their country, despite the fact that Japan traces its ancestry back to SE Asia.

So much for your kind and generous Japanese fables, JackWang.

nonono.... this is bad....








HE SHOULD GO TO MORE THAN HELL! I MEAN MORE THAN DEAD!


Anyway, he is not chinese Xiao Rong Ji. Ignore him.

ban this son of a b!tch.

你跟 他 去 啊。。。。哈哈哈。。。

No.

Even I wouldn't compare Nazi Schuzstaffel to this Jack Wang...

i do respect her as long as she's attractive. she looks cute. but my requirement is she must be also sexy, not just cute. is she actress, singer ? is there another pic that proves she's sexy ?

Digressing.
Anyways, um, you think the three Asian countires have a good relationship with the U.S.

OMG... you "respect her as long as she's attractive"? ...

Hello, how come no one answer my question???

I personally believe Japan and South Korea don't have an equal relationship with the U.S. U.S. seems to have more power over Japan and South Korea than the other way around.

China and U.S. have more of an equal relationship, but U.S. still has a slight advantage, being the world's most powerful nation and all...

However, overall, I'd say the relationship between Japan and South Korea with the U.S. is better than the relationship between China and U.S. But mostly because China is still in name a "communist" country and that China does not submit to U.S.'s demands without a challenge.

Hmm, yea, i think that's the reason too.

Oh yes japanese dog. Why are you here? Really.

Kulong: You last post was terrific.

Than why are you here?

with the us being worst evil nation nowadays, china is increasingly most effective deterrence against the evil. but it's power is still fragile with big wealth gap between urban, and rural area. so china still need help from japan and korea. but unfortunately china can't believe japan is reliable. actully japan and korea are the most powerful partner of china. if china, japan ,korea get together, the region have ever strongest power. but if they face with hostility, the us leverage it. if your head is cool, the message will go to your brain.

You know what. Don't talk JackWang...

China believes Japan is very reliable. Almost all the technology is from japan. China and Japan may not be social on the same level or friendship-wise however economically China and Japan are great partners in trade.

Japan certainly is a good economic partner of China, however, it's not like China is coming to an end without Japan.
P.S. - Korea is not even considered a power.