IF Gengis Khan had not died his army would not be splited up and reduced and Mongolia would still control China , Korea ........

what would happen if Mongols ( Huns) still controlled these countrys wat will happend to all the rest of asian countrys like Vietnam, Japan, Thailand, Laos Malaysia, etc ?

I think

1) Total Assimilation and being part Mongol

2) Accepting Hun Culture, speaking language

3) Take away are beautiful asian womans and wed have take cocubines as gf

4) Europe, Middle East , Africa and North America well fall into the hands of Mongols due to mongol expansion

4) or all countrys unite and fight off the Hun Invaders togethers with nukes, soldiers and tanks, air and naval force

the mongols should have done extensive invasion of european subcontinent, then europeans would be mixed with asians.. and alota smaller!

Then the Mongols would rule the world, everybody would live in yurts, and there would be 10,000 years of peace.

u mean if they had implemented the final solution of killing all the men and taking the women for themselves???...

What?

A world of Buddhism sounds alot more peaceful then the Christian and Muslim world we see today. but then again, the mongols, and buddhist in general were not as concerned with forcefully spreading the word as Christians are/were, so acceptance and freedom of religion would be commonplace.

Had the mongols gotten deep into western Europe they may have all but annhialated western civilation as we knew it just as they did to the Arabs in Baghdad(Babylon), which was the center of western civilization at the time. This is why today we see the Middle East(cradle of civilization) still trying to catch up to Europe, where before the mongol invasion.. they were ahead of Europe in terms of advancement and civilization.

i thought mongols were animist

Mongols took many religions. They were shamanists initially.

The mongols of iran and russia were later converted to islam.
While the Mongols of Yuan dynasty adopted tibetan lama budhism.

What happen? The Mongols would probably gather citizens from the occupied countries and use them for shooting targets.

If Chingis Khaan's state remained until today, world would've been much closer. I mean more united. He was very good at takin other's culture who's were more advanced. For example, Mongols brought savon(french word) into Asia for the 1st time. He was very willin to talk with Uigurs too.
He created the biggest empire in human history but at same time noway to hide its violence in other hand.

Much closer maybe but over a period of time it'll break up.

The Mongols should've had a more, communist iron fisted ruleing idealogy.

The Khan's were too lenient.

^OMG what are you saying?

I think you're the first person to consider the Mongols as "too lenient"

They almost wiped out the whole Chinese pop... They reduced the whole human pop... They destroyed most of Muslim world... That's why the Christianity so prevalent today... If they continued to Europe, we'll probably be watching Hindus and Buddhist fighting each other today.


If the Mongols still rule today, will have "Pax Mongolia" in Mongolian of course

PS... and my name would be Hulagu.

The Mongol conquests was the among the greatest disaster in the world's history. They contributed nothing to the world but death, destruction and misery.

Talking about being constructive.

Maybe i should've elaborated more.

The Mongols were known to have the army of every nation they conquered serve under them, as well as scholars & engineers...The Mongols used the people who were useful in helping their empire flourish...however it did not work..

Kublai Khan tried very hard to govern a civilized empire, but failed & all who came after him in the Khan clan.

It was too much, too soon.

who cares, he conquered whitey and thats all that matters

You're wrong. He created the first postal service.

That's the common perception for ppl in the West about anything other than "White" hegemony... BTW are you a white person?

The Mongols actually contributed a lot to the World at that time... For an example... They ensured safe passage from East to West... Which was very important for economy, exchange of technology, arts, goods, ideas, etc... And I think everybody knows about their contribution to military.





Kublai Khan was just in China... Mongols dominance was all over...

Their prob was that there were not enough Mongols to go around.

No. I say the European conquest was among the greatest destruction in world's history. They entered where people did not invite them, spread diseases, and genocided groups. Most important they introduced to humanity the true meaning of what evil is. The world would have been better off without them.

And for all the people who will respond with "technology" the planet has limited resources. The "primitives" who live in huts and take what they need and not what they want are the smartest people. They do not attempt to control nature but work with it. people wanting 6 houses, 50 cars like mike tyson, and objects that nature is ill prepared to accomodate. What is going to happen when all these resources are gone?

and in fact one may argue the mongol conquests paved the way for the later european conquests as it resulted in spread of technology and ideas to the west which led to its discovery of the New World and the rise of the west.... the Mongol conquests gave Europe knowledge about the wealth in the East, which is what motivated the earliest voyages by Portugese and Columbus....



[quote=bond007,Dec 29 2005, 05:38 PM]
[quote=southernstar,Dec 28 2005, 03:35 PM]The Mongol conquests was the among the greatest disaster in the world's history. They contributed nothing to the world but death, destruction and misery.

Talking about being constructive.

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No. I say the European conquest was among the greatest destruction in world's history. They entered where people did not invite them, spread diseases, and genocided groups. Most important they introduced to humanity the true meaning of what evil is. The world would have been better off without them.

@ all

The New World for European Conquest contributed an brought technology to many nations

We'd all be mongols , instead of chinese.

The "New World " was already inhabited hence it was not the new world to begin with.

I have yet to hear the USA or Europe apologise to the aboriginal americans, Australian and New Zealander for their evil and total genocide behaviour.

If China had colonised these regions do you think she would have invoked the same policy? Or if Euro. women instead of men.

then mongolia would be rich and have big land and stuff and lot of mixes

no...if you were a han chinese...you would be either dead or a slave...haha...

Well they had their chance to do that , obviously they coudlnt do it.

no...the Chinese certainly would not have invoked genocidal policies...

if the mongolians had not conquered China it is quite possible the Chinese would have reached the Americas and then perhaps the history would be very different...




>The "New World " was already inhabited hence it was not the new world to begin with.

I have yet to hear the USA or Europe apologise to the aboriginal americans, Australian and New Zealander for their evil and total genocide behaviour.

If China had colonised these regions do you think she would have invoked the same policy? Or if Euro. women instead of men.

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And to pay for those technologies many nations have to serve the whites as slaves.

Heil my Viet Minh brother.

indeed ......... better then being primitative people with basic stuff

Those primitive people will be the eventual winners on this planet. as I stated prior they ONLY take what they need and not what they want. "Civilised" society are glutted by greed, murder, corruption, disease, graft, you name it.
Good luck pal.

"Beggars are Choosers" yea i know what u mean !

they take wat they want and discard the rest !

No matter what there always be NEEDS on this planet !!!

^no, u don't actually.



bond...

Yes, and the "advance" white race were the ones who make those standard. We have to corrupt ourselves in order to be at the top.

I AM TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

The modern Mongolian Army, OMG!!!!!!!!!!

then all the countries would have adopted chinese culture and pay homage to beijing, as the mongols themselves adopted chinese culture and moved their capital to Kambalic (which developed into Beijing).

Hahaha! They learned how to fly!




Be afraid! Genghis Khan will rise again!

Where are all the horses??

Either doing farm work or on vacation.

that is an old point of view. mongol conquests actually brought some positive things, such as unity, more open relationand trade between east and west, proof that religios tolerance can be successful. he did what was, is and will be most valuable thing for mongols, namely their identity.

Too many if-then scenarios. Just stick with the reality, people. I wish the Mongols would invade Africa in addition to Europe, Asia, and Middle East so that the whole world would be united as ONE. Regardless, the Mongol experiences clearly show that "empires rise and fall".

the question is actually hyper unrealistic. the mongol empire expanded very fast, hence was destined to collapse fast. it is safe to say it is nearly impossible to build such a huge empire with so little human power. one wonders how they could do that. i think the empire actually endured an amazingly long period.

^ indeed a collaspe nation fell in their own hands



African mixed with mongolian blood

theyll be part asian

i wonder wat would part black and asian look like ?

They'll have tanned skin and look like Jennifer Lopez.

OMG now i know that Jeniffer is Afro Mongolian i,m so stupid why didnt i think that before

The horses are waiting for redeployment

There (shows with his finger to the north )