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Raideneyes24
How do you overcome culture differences. For example, an american guy, really likes this woman that was born in asia, but he doesn't know enough about the culture to find common ground.

How should he go about finding the best connection with this persons family and values?

And, do any of you think there is a bias from asian parents, against american men who like there daughters?
Mogembo..
where in asia is this girl from? what social status does she have? what social status do you have?
Suijen
If there's a big ol' culture difference, it just won't fly. Culture/environment affects your personality, and if your cultures clash, your personalities might also.

Chinese don't really have a problem with white people (they should!).
Raideneyes24
Chinese don't really have a problem with white people (they should!).
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Ouch, that hurts. lol lol embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2
Metier9
my exs parents had a problem hehe
mndeg
since when did american mean white?
chinky714
QUOTE (mndeg @ Jan 9 2006, 03:29 PM)
since when did american mean white?
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since the majority of american population is caucasion or white that makes the term 'american' white. Otherwise there wouldn't be a need for a term such as 'Asian American' or 'African American'.
chinky714
QUOTE (mndeg @ Jan 9 2006, 03:29 PM)
since when did american mean white?
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delete lag.
Jarhier
QUOTE (Suijen @ Jan 9 2006, 04:47 PM)
If there's a big ol' culture difference, it just won't fly.  Culture/environment affects your personality, and if your cultures clash, your personalities might also. 

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yeah..even if they are same race but grew up in different culture..the problem still exists
Jasel
I think the more people focus on their cultural differences instead of things that make them similar the harder it is. Seems like everyone is trying to look for some magical easy relationship.

Boring.
trunks2
i was seeing this dark skinned guy briefly and I can't even tell you how many stares i got just for the color of our skin...
whatever difference they may be it'll be a hurdle to jump (a big one like religion is a toughy to overlook)

so depending on how serious you are about the relationship, and you compromise and understand it'll be very tough...i believe things can work no matter the circumstances.
mndeg
white people are only 69.1% of the USA
three_kingdoms
QUOTE (chinesey714 @ Jan 9 2006, 02:44 PM)
since the majority of american population is caucasion or white that makes the term 'american' white. Otherwise there wouldn't be a need for a term such as 'Asian American' or 'African American'.
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This is the old way of thinking. Navajo can understand Chinese actually. The word "Tahoe" means "big lake" in mandarin.

American means Asian. However, Asians have accepted this great land to be everyone's land to share.
Jarhier
QUOTE (mndeg @ Jan 9 2006, 07:15 PM)
white people are only 69.1% of the USA
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you have a problem with the term because white person referred american as white ppl or foreigner parents would think any differently? confused.gif
three_kingdoms
American does not mean white. Native Americans came from Asia. But yes, the biggest ethnic group in America is white. They were the last race to arrive in America.
mndeg
because asians are viewed and treated as the perpetual immigrants, always foreigners.
asian-americans are underrepesented in the media (blacks overrepresented) even though in many 2nd gen american families, their "native" language isn't spoken in the household at all
Jarhier
it cant be helped anyway. unless asians literally oppress the country with asian culture and politics. i still dont see black as "americans". never have because they've adopted the "white american" culture just as we have. icon_confused.gif

but i'm sure ppl in america are more aware of the difference than ppl in asia because of multi-cultural growth over the years.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE (mndeg @ Jan 9 2006, 05:29 PM)
since when did american mean white?
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Ever since people started asking us, "I know you were raised in the states but where are you REALLY from?"
chinky714
QUOTE (mndeg @ Jan 9 2006, 05:15 PM)
white people are only 69.1% of the USA
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and where did you get this? according to the CIA Whites make up 81..7% of the Population, that was in 2003, so you're saying in 3 years there was a sudden 'boom' that caused asians and blacks population to rise up enough to decrease White population by 20 something percent?

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This is the old way of thinking. Navajo can understand Chinese actually. The word "Tahoe" means "big lake" in mandarin.

American means Asian. However, Asians have accepted this great land to be everyone's land to share.


what does this have to do with whites being 'referred' to Americans? you're funny, go to Europe or any parts of Asia, and ask them what is an American, they'll tell you the typical association, a 'white' man. In the 60s-80's when the word Americans were used it usually refers to a white guy. So you're saying technically since "Native" Americans were here first North America belongs to asians, since Native Americans migrated from Asia? You're funny..

http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=317203

anywho back on topic, if you like a girl i don't think it really matters what race you are, as long as she likes you too. Her parents don't like you? tough deal, you can always get married without their consent its 2006! who gives a rats @$$.
Brian T
This thread has derailed. When did we start talking about race? Culture is at hand. What sort of culture clash would happen between an American and Asian anyways? For the most part they get along.
tengkuafif
The rule is simple:
When is Rome, do as the Romans do.
Jasel
^Well if you're American that can be tricky...so many cultural differences.

Well Latinos and blacks both make up 28% of the countries population along with asians who make up around 4%. 100 - 32 = 68%. Which would be the white population. And the majority of America isn't going to be white if the immigration/population trends keep going the way they are.
First_Born
I will stop those trends
mndeg
The majority of Americans descend from white European immigrants who arrived at the establishment of the first colonies (most after Reconstruction). This majority--69.1% in 2000--decreases each year, and is expected to become a plurality within a few decades. The most frequently stated European ancestries are German (15.2%), Irish (10.8%), English (8.7%), Italian (5.6%) and Scandinavian (3.7%). Many immigrants also hail from Slavic countries such as Poland and Russia. Other significant immigrant populations came from eastern and southern Europe and French Canada.

2000 census
chinky714
QUOTE (mndeg @ Jan 9 2006, 09:12 PM)
The majority of Americans descend from white European immigrants who arrived at the establishment of the first colonies (most after Reconstruction). This majority--69.1% in 2000--decreases each year, and is expected to become a plurality within a few decades. The most frequently stated European ancestries are German (15.2%), Irish (10.8%), English (8.7%), Italian (5.6%) and Scandinavian (3.7%). Many immigrants also hail from Slavic countries such as Poland and Russia. Other significant immigrant populations came from eastern and southern Europe and French Canada.

2000 census
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Whites account for 80.7 percent of the U.S. population and are any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East or North Africa.


http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=317203

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white 81.7%, black 12.9%, Asian 4.2%, Amerindian and Alaska native 1%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.2% (2003 est.)
note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean a person of Latin American descent (including persons of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin) living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.)


http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html


also to the original poster, the best the american guy can do to win the family over is be respectful to the family and learn whats respectful in the culture.
Raideneyes24
QUOTE (tengkuafif @ Jan 9 2006, 07:10 PM)
The rule is simple:
When is Rome, do as the Romans do.
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Thanks, but I live in America. And I'm a white american, and she's korean.
Plus, she lives in america to.

So do you mean I should be even more american? lol lol embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2
mndeg
um, they lumped hispanic into white

LOL
corky
QUOTE (Raideneyes24 @ Jan 10 2006, 04:43 AM)
How  do  you  overcome  culture  differences.        For  example,  an  american  guy,  really  likes  this  woman  that  was  born  in  asia,  but  he  doesn't  know  enough  about  the  culture  to  find  common  ground.

How  should  he  go  about  finding  the  best  connection  with  this  persons  family  and  values?

And,  do  any  of  you  think  there  is  a  bias  from  asian  parents,  against  american  men  who  like  there  daughters?
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as an irish man living in asia married to asian girl and with one son and a father-in-law from a very high society family (politicians)
i can say no.
whoever rattles on about huge cultural differences should go live in asia and see it really isnt that different...at least from ireland.

people whine on about asians being family orientated and different languages and customs.....man i get tired of that sad old complaint.

if the culture isnt family orientated than the culture stinks. i think most culturtes are family orientated. as for different languages...that what your brain is for......take the chance learn to speak another language....do it for love and if you dont do it for that do it because its fun. as far as customs and so on.....basic politeness and courtesy are universal...the rest can be learned.

if you want to go on about culture shock and all that stuff you are forgetting one thing
love conquers all.
thats why all those hairy fat white men with theri nubile young whore wives always split up. they want convenience.
as for me and the inumerable other IR couples baring the racist and ignorant stereotypes mostly coming from america and voiced by morons here, we just get on with life waiting for all the stupid ignorant bigots to die off and be replaced by more knowledeable more culturally/less racially aware.
chinky714
QUOTE (mndeg @ Jan 9 2006, 09:57 PM)
um, they lumped hispanic into white

LOL
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Umm hispanics only account for about 10% of the population so 80 - 10 = 70.
mndeg
69.1%
so im still right
big suprise here
Suijen
It wasn't until recently (50 years) that the US considered itself no longer a white country but a multi-cultural one. And it was proud of that too.

Then came the 1960s and the development of Political Correctness, and then people of color had to be treated fairly, and then it was considered wrong to use words like "N*gga", "Japanese", "chinese", and whatnot.

Perhaps the US isn't a white country now, but historically it has been a different case.

Raiden, the fellow can still get in the good side. But know that her parents and her relatives probably would have preferred that she'd marry another Chinese. Take into account that the girl is the one to "give away" and the boy is the one to keep. Maybe the two will balance each other out. Don't forget that the parents have a much larger say in whom their children marry than their counterparts in the US. Get in their good sides by learning basic Chinese customs, maybe woo them with some Mandarin, and your friend will probably get past that little barrier.
chinky714
QUOTE (mndeg @ Jan 9 2006, 10:39 PM)
69.1%
so im still right
big suprise here
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umm when i said whites make up the majority so you dont' consider more than 60% the majority? umm okay then buddy... wutever u say...
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