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kyme
can we protect our own country? when der is a war?
hehe, me if u ask , i think it can. i think?
filipinoy
QUOTE (kyme @ Jan 12 2006, 11:17 PM)
can we protect our own country? when der is a war?
  hehe, me if u ask , i think it can. i think?
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i can spell that way too!

ay tink wi ken protek awar kantri, iben do awar militari ekwipment isint dat gud komper tu ader kantris.....
dYoSa
QUOTE (filipinoy @ Jan 13 2006, 01:30 PM)
i can spell that way too!

ay tink wi ken protek awar kantry, iben do awar militari ekwipment isint dat gud komper tu ader kantris.....
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o great, nice one.... i can do that either.... embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
everfree1604
I don't think we can, that Defense Act of the Philippines thing was a nice idea to protect ourselves from foreign invasion but then fighting against a country that is "modernized" and has an advantage over our air and sea territories it might be a miss, but then again that Vietnam War haha.
Mr_Koolitz
QUOTE (kyme @ Jan 13 2006, 12:17 AM)
can we protect our own country? when der is a war?
  hehe, me if u ask , i think it can. i think?
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we juz nid to sharpin our bolo's n balisong's n wi shold be ok!
AKASYA
we don't ned wepons just sit bak ,relax an prey.after ol wer a loving pespol pepol. beerchug.gif

or bahala na. embarassedlaugh.gif2
TakTAk-Boy
any modernized army can enter the philippines...but can they hold on to it?.....i highly doubt it. embarassedlaugh.gif2..70% of the population own atleast 1 or 2 guns. biggrin.gif
mytran80
no offense guys,but this thread makes me wonder why the japanese invaded the philippines back during war? icon_confused.gif
TakTAk-Boy
QUOTE (mytran80 @ Jan 13 2006, 11:32 AM)
no offense guys,but this thread makes me wonder why the japanese invaded the philippines back during war? icon_confused.gif
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before WW2..manila was called "the pearl of the orient" for a reason...it was the entrance to asia from the pacific...goods from asia stoped there before going to hawaii and the Americas...and if not dealt with, the allies could launch a counter attack on any japanese positions in Asia from the philippines.
everfree1604
Oh and before I forget, if the Philippines is attacked - wouldn't that provoke America into defending the Philippines? Close allies.
TakTAk-Boy
QUOTE (everfree1604 @ Jan 14 2006, 05:33 AM)
Oh and before I forget, if the Philippines is attacked - wouldn't that provoke America into defending the Philippines? Close allies.
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only if its to their benefit. Talktohand.gif
everfree1604
You know for some who talks smart, you disagree with any benefits that America brings to the Philippines. >_> OR atleast you talk un-favourably of them.
Bixie
QUOTE (TakTAk-Boy @ Jan 14 2006, 05:57 AM)
only if its to their benefit. Talktohand.gif
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I couldn't agree more! Honestly, when was the last time America protected a country out of the goodness of their heart?

Filipinos, to me, are some of the mildest people I know and are much more on the lover side than the fighter ... however, under an apt leader, I believe they'll be good at defending themselves in a war.
islander
Found this article shows Phillippines needs to do more to protect there national interests.


Manila succumbs to Chinese advances

Following the withdrawal of U.S. forces from the Philippines, the U.S.-Philippine alliance has atrophied. Through the 1990s, the Philippines suffered steady encroachments on its South China Sea exclusive economic zone (eez) by Chinese fishing fleets and research ships and by Chinese naval vessels threatening Philippine navy patrol boats trying to enforce Manila’s rights in its maritime eez. Ultimately, the encroachments extended to the Chinese occupation of Mischief Reef, a Philippine atoll off Palawan Island. Whether Washington simply did not care about China’s increasingly assertive maritime claims in what had theretofore been generally accepted as Philippine waters or just wanted to punish Manila for closing U.S. bases, the result was that Manila felt alienated from the U.S. security shield.

After September 11, 2001, however, festering terrorist cells active in the Philippines’ southern islands received urgent attention from the Pentagon. Revelations that Al Qaeda operatives in Manila had planned suicide hijackings and even the assassination of visiting Pope John Paul ii prior to 9/11 alerted U.S. policymakers to the necessity for massive counter-terrorism cooperation with the Philippines and other asean countries. Even so, U.S. support for the Philippines did not extend to its maritime frictions with the Chinese. When the Philippine Air Force tried to purchase used F-5 fighter aircraft from Taiwan at bargain-basement prices in 2002, Beijing threatened retaliation and Washington failed to support the bid. Manila eventually declined to purchase the aircraft.

Moving away from threats, China began to provide military assistance. In March 2005, for example, China offered the Philippines U.S. $3 million in military aid to establish a Chinese-language training program for the Philippine military. At the same time, Beijing donated engineering equipment, invited the Philippines to participate in naval exercises, and opened five slots for Filipinos for military training. In exchange, China thanked the Philippines for supporting its version of the one-China issue and agreed to maintain peace in the South China Sea. The peace issue is notable because China had already seized Philippine maritime territory, and the status quo was very much in Beijing’s favor.

When Operation Iraqi Freedom was launched in 2003, the Philippines dispatched a 60-man medical unit to Baghdad. But when a Filipino civilian was kidnapped in 2004, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo decided to withdraw the contingent. “Within six weeks of pulling out of the Iraq coalition,” one senior U.S. foreign-policy official lamented, “our Filipino ‘allies’ sent President Gloria Arroyo to Beijing, completed reciprocal visits for their and China’s defense ministers, and signed a confidential protocol with China on exploitation of South China Sea resources.”4

Why would a country that had been subject to repeated Chinese military insults suddenly swing into the Chinese camp? A well-placed Philippine government official has said privately to us that “There is still considerable pro-American feelings in the region, but they don’t have a leg to stand on because the Americans have ignored us.” Since 9/11 the United States has provided about $100 million a year in economic and security assistance, but throwing money at the Philippines does not buy an ally. Benign neglect in Washington seems to have sent the message that the United States never took Manila’s views of its security threats seriously.

Who could blame Manila if it determined it could not rely on U.S. support in defending itself against a rising China? Well-meaning but misleading pronouncements such as Secretary of State Powell’s assertion, just after President Arroyo’s Beijing visit, that U.S. relations with China are “the best, perhaps, in decades” conveyed such an impression.5 Since then, a combination of Chinese military pressure and economic incentives has begun to cement Beijing’s new relationship with Manila.
peterdongseng
We can't protect the country by us alone, our defense is too weak. But for as long as we have the United States on our side I guess we can.
filipinoy
i think it depends what country we're going to war with
Cristiano_Ronaldo
We can with Filipino spirit. Some people needs to start realizing that. I rather we defend our OWN country rather than have another doing that for us. That's really going to display our incapability to stand with our own two feet.
RL33
We will take the fight to hills and moutains guerilla style icon_twisted.gif.
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