I heard that there has been institutionalized discrimination against Koreans in Japan.

Facts:
1, Japanese woman married to Korean confides to friend she cannot get promotion at her bank because she is married to a Korean.
2, There is the stereotype that most Koreans in Japan work as chauffeurs, cleaning staff, or if mixed heritage, sales clerks.
3, Even if a Korean graduates from a first rate university he cannot find a job.
4, A Japanese girl told me that she and her brother do not talk to Koreans at her school.
5, A Japanese girl with Japanese dad and Korean-Japanese mother gets treated coldly by her teacher and friends.
6, Koreans still are not allowed to take the exam to national universities.
7, There is a lot of discrimination and racism against the Japanese-Korean in closed rooms, at the office: screaming, berating, badgering, demotions, etc.

Conclusion:
Japan is not all about fun and games as some Koreans misunderstand it to be.
There is still a lot of discrimination against Korean Japanese that is not revealed to the public. But a Japanese will answer: "There is discrimination in Japan, but there
is discrimination all over the world including the United States."

An article put out by the UN:
http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/0/f143747...5b?Opendocument

its right! Japan is a racist nation in many ways also, so called zainichi koreans, born in japan korean/japanese (often 3rd generation) have to carry an alien registration card and up to 2000 had to be fingerprinted they can`t vote, but of course have to pay taxes!

its right! Japan is a racist nation in many ways also, so called zainichi koreans, born in japan korean/japanese (often 3rd generation) have to carry an alien registration card and up to 2000 had to be fingerprinted they can`t vote, but of course have to pay taxes!

wat a surprise there have been istitutional racism for a long time in a lot of countries

Generally anyone who isn't Japanese finds getting work difficult.
But on a personal level I've had no problems whatsoever with the social side of things.

thats strange. discriminating against koreans in japan is like discriminating against ur own parents. only misbehaved rebellious children do that.

Don't alot of Japanese get treated the same way in Korea

I also heard that Filipinos were also highly descriminated against in Japan too What a sad world

Jasel, you obviously have a thing against Koreans. Please stop bringing Korean racism on every issue. This isn't even about that.

Japanese obviously have a veneer of being nice and polite, and yet they yet behind closed doors the truth really comes out. You seem the kind to be easily fooled.

^ Great, another arse trying to start an arguement, Jasel close the thread.

well, those koreans didn't ask to be there. they were forced there as japanese slaves to work in japan during the early 1900s. its like if blacks in america weren't allowed to have US citizenship. think about that for a minute.

Hmm. I really don't

Takashi, did I push a button?

I don't have any buttons, there are just too many trolls these days.

but their style of racism is quite similar to racism against Blacks during the 60s.

If you were black in the 1960s white people generally wouldn't talk to you, it's not the same thing

Chilli I agree. A very severe case of racism.


Some examples

2-Tier systems - one for Japanese, other non-Japanese

Lack of educational/economic opportunies for non-Japanese

Racial segregation e.g. Japanese only signs

Depends on the race and the industry.
The racial segregation is due to the Nationalist wankers

is the same thing:



out of these, i found 1# the most ridiculous.

It's not at all. Depends on the people
Number 1, depends, sometimes yes sometimes no but the Korean will find it harder to be promoted, the Japanese woman generally wouldn't but it's not unheard of.
Number 4 isn't common, I'd be inclined to think it's crap
Number 6 I'm not sure about, all I know is that foreign students have to pass the same exams as Japanese students. The UN mentioned something about it a few years back, not sure if it was sorted out.

of course, japan's racism is not as the same as the 60's but lots of those facts really reminds me of it.

btw, no one cares about the UN.

Takashi, are you Japanese?

The UN is hopeless, they really have no power
A number of Koreans adopt Japanese names in order to 'fit in'

@gangi788
Half Japanese, half Korean.

this is the same for chinese indonesians, that's what i heard from reports.

You'd think that considering the number of non-Japanese asians in Japan they wouldn't have to do that. Too many issues everywhere, so annoying.

These cases seem slightly exaggerated and since most of them are coming from Younghee's own personal experience, without statistical or empirical evidence, surely anybody who has had contrasting experiences can say exactly the opposite with just as much acceptance to be expected?

Please take a look

http://www.imadr.org/imadr_jc/song_hesuk.html

What about Chinese in Japan? Do they face more or less discrimination than Koreans?

What you are describing is something that has happened to Chinese people in Japan for ages.

Racism is inexcusable, but unfortunately it exists, and we all just have to deal with it. It means is that you have to work harder to change people's prejudices. e.g. be a good person.. etc.

I like this quote:

"If the whole world were white, we'd have racism between blondes and brunettes."

the worst thing is most of the koreans in japan are 4th generation and all of them are perfectly assimilated to japan. Also they dont look sos different from japanese people which is another factor in the 60 in th us for the discrimination against the blacks...but here its purely based on names

Damn, if these got broadcast worldwide, then, it the xenophobes would learn truth -- the hard was that it was supposed to be -- the type that fucks people in the ass.

Btw, is it just me, or, the LDP (the most powerful rightwing party) is loving it?

these racism are pathetic.

koreans there are treated like black people in America..better or worse. i'm thinkin as bad or worse

Whoa ..... Is this S Korea ?

That's exactly the discriminatory practices slap on ethnic Chinese in S Korea for decades,no wonder Koreans are screaming hell Japanese are genetically tie to them.Don't mean to add insult to injury,what goes around comes around.

I don't see anything wrong with that.
Where I live, there are a crapload of fobs who use their American names.
If I were to study in Japan or China, I would use my adopted names.

I kind of agree with Takashi's stance on it (assuming we have the same view). I always thought changing your name between countries to be ridiculous.

As long as you keep your Last name like most do, I think it's totally fine because I believe it's your only true identity.

Every country has it racism problems. I find Japan to be very diff. from the rest of the world.

It's not like Korea doesn't have its own racism problems. They are discrimating and treating foreigners bad too.

i know this is about koreans but i have an uncle who works in kyoto as an engineer for some company. basically for the first 2 years he worked there, the other coworkers barely talked to him unless it was work related. it wasn't until much later that he started developing some relationships with his colleagues. and he speaks perfect japanese.

he had kids and he put them into japanese schools and he saw they werent happy. there was no racism but it was just a feeling of being outcast.

basically, he said that japan is a good place to work but not to raise your kids there.

The English word is ..... XENOPHOBIC

For Korea,it has much to do with the country's past humiliating history of many foreign invasions and occupations.

that sometimes happens in western countries as well. not racism, it's just that you have nothing in common to talk about.

the japanese don't like the chinese much either. i remember a while ago (after a chinese immigrant had raped a japanese school girl and the country was in a completely absurd paranoia about rampaging chinese rapists) the government tried to tell its citizens to tell the police whenever they heard chinese being spoken. obviously this did not go over really well with the chinese, so it was repealed but it gives you some sense on how the japanese feel. also, i was told by a korean-japanese (4th generation or so) that you can't be a japanese citizen without changing your last name to a japanese last name (one korean-japanese girl i know had done so). i asked him if he was going to do it as he'd be given more rights if he did, he said no, he owed it to his grandparents to keep his korean last name. i think it's pretty messed up that japan has that policy (and i do know the reasons why they have it so you dont have to tell me), what's the harm in letting someone keep their family name. it's obviously an important part of their culture, just let them write it in katakana for god's sake! i get the sense that the country is heading more and more towards the right, but in the end the japanese will only hurt themselves. they have a shrinking aging population and with less young people around they're going to have to be supporting an increasing number of old people. if they don't let immigrants in to help them with their burden, it's not going to be pretty for the country. say all you want about singapore but at least it has the right idea in trying to attract foreign talent. heck, even the USA, number 1 economy in the world by far does this! i really admire the japanese but their right wing (like almost all countries right wings), i just can't understand.

there has been very bad instituational racism in the past. such as segregation many japanese cities today still have the ruins of korea town area, but these are almost gone except for places like osaka. otherwise koreans in other places are pretty much integrated and assimiliated in various degree to the daily society. sure there is still isolated cases of discrimination that continue. but basically in most cases the younger korean-japanese they are also totally japanese and accepted same just like every body else. nobody cares about their korean background.

Is it that they don't care or that they don't know?? From what I've heard it's not like Koreans in Japan with Japanese names go around bragging that they're Korean.


edit: Oh if anyone gets a chance I suggest you watch the movie Go. It's about a Korean kid who lives in Japan with his father and sister. They're North Koreans I believe but renounce their North Korean citizenship to become South Koreans or something like that (all takes place in Japan). It's pretty interesting and I enjoyed it.

Its actually a personal thing and there are many varieties. There are korean-japanese that erase their korean identity and have japanese names, this is common among older people. Others have japanese name and like japanese name, but dont care if people know they have korean ancestors. Others, have korean names but are culturally japanese and dont care much about korea, because they want to be japanese. Others have korean names and express korean identity openly. Some have gone to korean ethnic schools but didnt like it and want to be japanese, some went to a regular japanese school and want to be japanese, some went to japanese school and since they have korean classes in japanese school did bother going to a korean school. etc. all kinds of cases go on in japan.

But over all wether they have a obvious korean name or obvious japanese name, most people dont really care about whether someone is korean or whatever, everyone is just japanese. Japanese is like the default. If you know what i mean. Its kind of a nerdy thing to do to be so fixated on people's ethnicity in japan especially when they are pretty much japanese just like everyone else. At least among the young people nobody really cares about it.

there are a lot of koreans in japan who change their name to japanese to pass as japanese. some do it to avoid discrimination.

heres an article of koreans in japan
http://www.han.org/a/fukuoka96a.html

That is a good article, although in those case they usually have that name since birth from their parents, not changed it later. But situation changed since the 1993, especially in the last few years in 21st century there are more korean-japanese that have a japanese name and dont change it because they are considered Japanese people like everybody else so no need. These Japanese are open about their korean ancestry. Basically nowadays its not so problem to be korean-japanese like it was in the past. Maybe some old people keep their old negative attitude because they were raised in that. But nowadays the younger people are not like that and dont care if someone is korean-japanese, because they are Japanese too.

That was very good. Some other interesting ones also are Guuzennimosaiakunashounen http://www.eigaseikatu.com/title/3697/ from the novel, and Pacchigi http://www.eigaseikatu.com/title/11214/　
The first movie is similar to Go and was a bit abstract and nonsensical. The second movie is now quite popular top seller in video stores, and it was the most entertaining in my opinion because it balanced many genres into one movie well, and the characters were interesting and we could sympathize with them. Btw, these movies are all about korean-japanese youth.

Why is there discrimination of Koreans? What happened? Was there a war or something between the 2 races?

Thanks for the heads up. I've seen Go. Cool movie. I'll try to download the other two. (And if you know where I might be able to, even better. )