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Kim Jung Il
More men convinced marriage leads to life of misery

Marriage means misery, according to Spa! (2/14), which claims it has the stats to back up its contentious claim.

Japan has in recent years been plagued by the joint problems of people waiting longer than they had to marry, having fewer people tie the knot and a greater number of couples who do pair up splitting again some time down the track.

According to the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare, Japan's marriage rate has dropped 9.9 percent over the past 10 years, while the divorce rate has skyrocketed by 26.5 percent over the same time.

Spa! says this nixing of nuptials is simple -- people have finally cottoned on to the fact that getting married eventually leads to disappointment.

A poll of 100 married men from 25 to 35 showed that 58 percent regretted ever marrying, with 35 percent of these guys -- with an average marriage of 4 years and 11 months -- saying they have rued their wedding day at least 10 times since it happened.

Divorce counselor Atsuko Okano is not surprised.
(By Ryann Connell)
February 14, 2006

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/news/...0dm024000c.html
Jarhier
true..marriage can add more problems..your own crap to deal with wont go anywhere.
xcutie
i wonder why mostly it's men that regret marriage? confused.gif
herc
QUOTE (xcutie @ Feb 14 2006, 10:37 PM)
i wonder why mostly it's men that regret marriage? confused.gif
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Because the wife always go shopping with money that the husband make.
toki
thats stupid. a magazine poll comprised out of only 100 men. anyways. roughly about 50% also in america would probably think the same thing. there is a lot of divorces here anyways.
camcode
this is why all the japanese women ends up marrying a white guy.
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QUOTE (Kim Jung Il @ Feb 15 2006, 12:43 PM)
More men convinced marriage leads to life of misery
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embarassedlaugh.gif rotflmao.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

But it's fun to torture our men biggrin.gif
Jaimu-Jaimu
The other 42% haven't been paying close enough attention then.
younghee
Maybe because the husband has to stay at the office until 10PM to compete with his coworkers and resents having to support his wife.

58% regrets getting married, that means they prefer being wood (single).
Wood (singlehood) can also be interpreted as not entering or ending a financial relationship which you think you are being taken advantage of or are not willing to support.
Metier9
rofl lol roffle lmao lol embarassedlaugh.gif2 lmao rofl embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2
Takashi
QUOTE (toki @ Feb 15 2006, 03:47 AM)
thats stupid. a magazine poll comprised out of only 100 men. anyways. roughly about 50% also in america would probably think the same thing. there is a lot of divorces here anyways.
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Exactly
Jasel
People are just stupid about marriage these days. Worldwide.
Suijen
US divorce rate is what, 50%? fu-king insane.
toki
QUOTE (Suijen @ Feb 15 2006, 02:11 PM)
US divorce rate is what, 50%?  fu-king insane.
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its higher in england. i think near 60% or at least close to it.
Jasel
The divorce rate trippled the past year in America. The main reason I think? Too many morons are getting married at 20 - 24. They fall in love with "the one" and instead of using common sense and maybe waiting till they're older with stable jobs and a degree they rush into it and fu-k up. I know a bunch of engaged people younger than me and a few who even have kids now. It's amazing how stupid people get when they're "in love" icon_confused.gif
Suijen
I think it's safe to assume that divorce will be an integral part of your marriage.
toki
QUOTE (Jasel @ Feb 15 2006, 03:42 PM)
The divorce rate trippled the past year in America. The main reason I think? Too many morons are getting married at 20 - 24. They fall in love with "the one" and instead of using common sense and maybe waiting till they're older with stable jobs and a degree they rush into it and fu-k up. I know a bunch of engaged people younger than me and a few who even have kids now. It's amazing how stupid people get when they're "in love" icon_confused.gif
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three words: drive through chapels icon_rolleyes.gif
changalator
That poll can't be true, is it?
camcode
QUOTE (Jasel @ Feb 15 2006, 03:42 PM)
The divorce rate trippled the past year in America. The main reason I think? Too many morons are getting married at 20 - 24. They fall in love with "the one" and instead of using common sense and maybe waiting till they're older with stable jobs and a degree they rush into it and fu-k up. I know a bunch of engaged people younger than me and a few who even have kids now. It's amazing how stupid people get when they're "in love" icon_confused.gif
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it's all about sex in america. teenagers are getting honier and honier after they hit freshmen year in high school. after they broke their virginity for the first time, their bodies wants more and more. then after they had enough sexs with their gf/bf, they want to settle down by getting married. this is when disaster start happen in a marriage relationship.
Happy Asian
meh
mndeg
nah, the problem is people don't actually care about personality. they just care about attraction. if something is wrong with their partner they'll "deal" with it (until it blows up). not to mention most people seek instant gratification and instant gratification in the long run equals bad.
younghee
I think people look for degrees and money, especially in America.
Jaimu-Jaimu
QUOTE (younghee @ Feb 16 2006, 03:12 PM)
I think people look for degrees and money, especially in America.
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In a partner?
What about in Japan then? What do they look for?
toki
QUOTE (mndeg @ Feb 16 2006, 01:20 AM)
nah, the problem is people don't actually care about personality. they just care about attraction. if something is wrong with their partner they'll "deal" with it (until it blows up). not to mention most people seek instant gratification and instant gratification in the long run equals bad.
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true. but also a lot of people confuse a lack of passion for a lack of love. also in america (not too sure about other countries) finance is the number one reason for divorces.
younghee
I think the bait for love and committment from a man is how much the woman is able to provide in terms of tuition bill, rent, down payment, mortgage, utilities, car payments and credit card bills. The worst scenerio is marrying a PhD want-to-be.
Takashi
QUOTE (younghee @ Feb 19 2006, 07:01 PM)
I think the bait for love and committment from a man is how much the woman is able to provide in terms of tuition bill, rent, down payment, mortgage, utilities, car payments and credit card bills.  The worst scenerio is marrying a PhD want-to-be.
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You think thats what men look for?
What kind of deadbeats have you been dating?
sun.hee
,,,
toki
QUOTE (sun.hee @ Feb 19 2006, 02:47 PM)
embarassedlaugh.gif2  LMAO.  When I read that, I suddenly had an envisioning of a couple "driving through" and ordering 1 priest, 2 brass wedding bands, and the cheapest, quickest matching couple shirts that are available in the ordering window.  McDonaldization has got me brainwashed.

The world has changed for sure.  Before, it used to be that marriage was much more of a benefit to the man than to the woman.  Hence, why more women committed suicide while IN marriage and why men committed suicide when NOT IN marriage.  At this rate, we'll reach equilibrium soon towards suicide while in marriage. 

Doesn't Japan have the lowest average # of of sex per year?  Maybe the men aren't satisfied in the physical sense...?
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actually its true. las vegas has some drive through chapels . just go through the drive through n all . they call some of them the "tunnel of love" embarassedlaugh.gif

yeah . men live longer and are happier in marriage. and for women its like the opposite in a lot of cases. dunno why really. and yeah i heard of that thing aobut japan too. if not the lowest than maybe near there. Greece is number one supposedly. i dunno why . some say its because in japan the men work all day and then just come home tired... confused.gif dunno.
Takashi
QUOTE (toki @ Feb 19 2006, 07:54 PM)
actually its true. las vegas has some drive through chapels . just go through the drive through n all . they call some of them the "tunnel of love"  embarassedlaugh.gif 

yeah . men live longer and are happier in marriage. and for women its like the opposite in a lot of cases. dunno why really. and yeah i heard of that thing aobut japan too. if not the lowest than maybe near there. Greece is number one supposedly. i dunno why . some say its because in japan the men work all day and then just come home tired...  confused.gif  dunno.
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Men live longer? No they dont........
As for the sex thing.....no idea.....most of the people I know are of the sense of 'if your partner and you arent having sex then one if not both of you is getting it elsewhere' icon_confused.gif
sun.hee
,,,
sun.hee
,,,
Takashi
QUOTE (sun.hee @ Feb 19 2006, 08:31 PM)
I think toki meant that men live longer when in marriage, not that men live longer than women.  ?

For the sex thing-  that's horrible.  If my hubby was doing that, I'd take a skillet to his head.
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How'd you mean?

lol thats why I'm confused, most if not all the japanese I know are at it like rabbits embarassedlaugh.gif
sun.hee
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Takashi
QUOTE (sun.hee @ Feb 19 2006, 09:24 PM)
"Like rabbits.."  LOL. 

So, Takashi [japanese/korean..?].. do you half go at it like a rabbit too?  embarassedlaugh.gif2
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lol since when do koreans not have a lot of sex?
They're just more conservative embarassedlaugh.gif
sun.hee
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Takashi
QUOTE (sun.hee @ Feb 19 2006, 09:50 PM)
Koreans= in the closets?  Japanese= humping rabbits?  LMAO...

That would make you a in-the-closet horny rabbit. 

you freak  biggthumpup.gif  embarassedlaugh.gif2
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lol in-the-closet?
Hmmm......Koreans.....a nation of gays............that never really sprung to my mind before embarassedlaugh.gif

Pffff......whereabouts in SK are your parents from?
sun.hee
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Takashi
QUOTE (sun.hee @ Feb 19 2006, 09:57 PM)
My dad is from Pyoung Taek and my mom is from Choong Chung Nam Do, but she lived in Dae Jun for a long time.  But they met here... at English school in '82. lol
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lol thats cute, my parents met at uni.

Married the same year? Bloody hell.... eek.gif
sun.hee
uni... nice. haven't found anyone at my uni yet. icon_confused.gif

Where was the uni? Kor or Japan? Thinking of going to Korea or Japan to study abroad..

yup.. they were married within 2 months. I always tell them that they were insane. lol.

*are we spamming this thread? lol
Takashi
Men aren't exactly known for looking forward to marriage anyway

@sun.hee
I'll reply in the random thoughts thread in the lounge before we carry on going off-topic embarassedlaugh.gif
younghee
Again, I think love and affection for a guy has to do with the $ sign.
I was at a wedding where a classmate of mine and her husband attended. We were at the reception that followed. I noticed that my friend's husband who is an engineer just could not get himself away from her. They were really lovy dovy. She is not at all a pretty girl. But mind you she passed her CPA exam which I understand is very difficult.
Takashi
QUOTE (younghee @ Feb 19 2006, 11:16 PM)
Again, I think love and affection for a guy has to do with the $ sign.
I was at a wedding where a classmate of mine and her husband attended. We were at the reception that followed. I noticed that my friend's husband who is an engineer just could not get himself away from her. They were really lovy dovy. She was in my mind not a pretty girl. But mind you she passed her CPA exam which I understand is very difficult.
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You're all dating deadbeats Talktohand.gif
Just because he married a woman that wasnt particulary pretty doesnt mean he wanted her money, beauty is subjective icon_rolleyes.gif
Jaimu-Jaimu
younghee, once again you're trying to base an entire generalisation on your limited experience. Since the stereotype is that women are more interested in a man's financial situation than vice versa, surely this implies that the experiences of others (the majority) are in contrast to your's? icon_redface.gif
younghee
Jaimu-Jaimu what time zone are you in?
Jaimu-Jaimu
QUOTE (younghee @ Feb 20 2006, 03:12 AM)
Jaimu-Jaimu what time zone are you in?
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GMT...but I'm working on assignments. biggrin.gif
toki
QUOTE (Takashi @ Feb 19 2006, 03:07 PM)
Men live longer? No they dont........
As for the sex thing.....no idea.....most of the people I know are of the sense of 'if your partner and you arent having sex then one if not both of you is getting it elsewhere'  icon_confused.gif
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married men live longer than single men. while single women live longer than married.. statistically speaking.


QUOTE (Takashi @ Feb 19 2006, 03:34 PM)
How'd you mean?

lol thats why I'm confused, most if not all the japanese I know are at it like rabbits  embarassedlaugh.gif
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hey. most adults i know period has sex and a lot have a lot. no biggie.
Jasel
I thought statistically married men lived 7 years less than men who are single confused.gif
toki
i heard that single men had a 250% higher mortality rate than single men. they need a woman to straighten them outz embarassedlaugh.gif
Jaimu-Jaimu
QUOTE (Jasel @ Feb 20 2006, 03:25 AM)
I thought statistically married men lived 7 years less than men who are single confused.gif
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Yeah I heard that too. biggrin.gif
toki
Married men live a lot longer than single men, mainly because married men take fewer risks. They eat better, smoke and drink less and get in fewer bar fights. Married men adjust to the expectations people have of fathers and providers, and they have somebody taking care of and nagging them. Even if married men don't take fewer health risks, the benefits of companionship and caregiving are so powerful that one study found married men who drank and smoked lived longer than single men who didn't drink or smoke.
source
also i heard the married men lived longer too in psychology. find me a source where they didn't live longer icon_smile.gif
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