Your dead emperor was Mongol,therefore it is mgl forum .... MORON

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Your dead emperor was a Mongol therefore it's mgl forum .... MORON

are you stupid it's chinese forum moron
maybe you need some glasses ok ma friend

Goodness, why put "Genhgis Khaan and the 800 anniversary of Great Mongol Empire" in Chinese forum and fight over it???

I usually back up my fellow chinese posters here but I am still pretty shocked and disgusted as to how certain members here feel that theres nothing wrong with the statue and the fact that we are glorifying this man. Let me make one thing clear he is not chinese he never was and he never willl be people who are speculating and saying that genghis khan or kublai khan are chinese are just trying to make the situation alittle better and it doesn't. This man was a FOREIGN force that invaded us and raped us. Use your heads here people if it was us living back then in china when it got invaded by mongolia I gurantee none of you here would be saying and I quote "regardless of what he did he was a great leader" or "We should stop looking in the past and start looking towards the future". With all due respect that is all BS to the highest degree. We would all be outraged if it was our parents and our siblings that were being slaughtered and killed right in front of our faces so why should our resentment be any different from those he actually murdered. Somebody on this thread said we should look to the future and not to the past but how does it help us to look to the future when we erect a statue of a leader of an army that cost so much devastation and death to us in the past??? What people have said here don't make any sense. I have to say I expected more outrage on the part of the chinese members so I am extremely surprised and shocked to see the laid back and relaxed attitude of some chinese members here regarding this issue.

You mean us as in Hans?

I mean us as a collective ALL chinese. Im alittle taken back at some comments being made here by chinese members who I always felt were legit.

same here but i rarely focus on genhgis khan.

to education: we're not glorifying him, we're just commenting from the facts we have here. i'm also disgusted at how khan treated innocent civilians but looking at his achievements, you have to admit he was a great leader and fighter.

Alright then the same can be said for hitler as well as people like napoleon and even bin laden then!

Don't mean to offend a fellow Chinese poster.

Is he legit ? .... Mongol reign has always been recorded as Yuan Dynasty and Taiwan had put him on one the postage stamps honering him along with other Tai Zus.

Does that justify there actions though? This is TAIWAN your talkking about they have a history of sucking up to people who colonialized them like the japanese and like you said the mongols.

true but it's up to the criterias. eg. bin laden is a radical but you have to admit he's brave enough to go against the US while some other arab states become puppets of the americans.

Those postage stamps were issued during KMT regime on Taiwan.I am a stamp collector,that's a reliable source.

LOL clearly you and I are on totally different spectrums in terms of what we deem to be justified and appropriate and whats not. To be honest with you that was one response I was hoping you disagree with me on but let me ask you something anyways how could you say that people like genghis khan and even bin laden are great leaders and even say they were brave when you had one guy that broke through the chinese army in a fair way I'll give him that but after that he decides that he'll further inflict more death on innocent civilians who are in no position to defend themselves and kill as well as rape millions of individuals for no reason. How does that make somebody brave and honorable when they attack those that have no weapons no training and no chance in hell of defending themselves. I guess mongolians and japanese have more in common then they realized. On the other hand now you have somebody like bin laden who you deem to be brave when this coward was to scared to fight his own damn war against the west so he recruits people that are disillusioned and confused and manipulate them into thinking this is gods command in hijacking a plane and holding once again innocent civilians captive while there forced to sit there as the plane rams into the towers. How could you even look at that as an act of bravery when bin laden is clearly a man of cowardice??

One of the dangers that you and other members here present by continuning to glorify these madmen is that kids will run up onto this website and chiildren in china will see that statue and think that there nothing wrong with rape and murdeur because as long as your gutsy and do it in the right way like genghis khan and bin laden all of that stuff will become irrelevant and you'll even been looked at like an icon and worshipped by millions worldwide and that is absolutely the worst and most backwards message that we as a country and members on this website could possibly be sending out because it makes it seem like human morals, ethics, integrity and honor don't matter when it should. I could be commanding a huge army but I absolutely refuse to kill innocent bystanders because thats what honor is about. Some of you guys here and people around the world have gotten so lost admist all his acheivements and glory and have forgotten the most important thing which is dignity and respect!

^as i said before, we're not glorifying, we're just saying they're great in their own ways. cruel but great - that's history. once again, i'm not glorifying them. there's no black and white in history, it depends on your own interpretation.

^And once again Im saying that theres nothing great about those individuals. However your entitled to your opinions but like I said before I 'll always view them as the lowest forms of life.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

CHINGGIS khaan is MONGOL

Much like Adolf Hitler.

hitler wasn't horny

and you would know this, how?

he supposedly married his long time girlfriend. and supposedly he loved her a lot. and was faithful

you don't need to know because you are a ali moharmed kazar dali hairy suicide bomber.

ok ok, aren't we all, now please stay on topic!

I heard that too. But also heard he was a womanizer previously. And just because you dearly love and is loyal to your girlfriend doesn't mean you can't have sex with other women.

i say, just give credit where credit is due. he did some crzy wc3 shyt.

and to other Han Chinese: there isnt any need to get any bad feelings, even IF they are about the past. people seem to overlook the fact Hans have reclaimed China. we currently RULE it. why keep looking back to the past and getting angry about things like this. the Hans have taken back the throne! be angry and have bad feelings IF we ever lose this position lol.

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He really didn't do anything crazy. The mongol empire was built in 3 generations. I believe the main thing he did was unify the mongols and liberate them from the Jurchens, conquered the Russians, and defeated the Jin. It was the persistent aggresion of the subsequent generations that made the Mongol empire into the biggest block of land ever in human history.

"made the Mongol empire into the biggest block of land ever in human history"

thats pretty crazy imo. sides, even if it wasnt crazy, its stil pretty wc3-like.

Sometimes when I go eat at Chinese restaurants with my parents, I remember my father told me as a child that the Chinese fried doughnut (youtiao) is not just a food but something of daily remembrance of our Chinese identity. Youtiao is eaten to remember a "Hangan" (Hanjian in Mandarin). A "Hangan" is a Chinese traitor. This traitor betrayed the Han Chinese to the Jurchen and Mongol. That is why we still eat "youtiao" for breakfast to remember this treachery.

We are also "Hangan" if we celebrate this war criminal. Unfortunately we cannot locate his grave, or we as children of Han and Tang know what to do with it. No matter how Qin Shihuangdi was, the only good thing was that he taught us that we are eternal enemies of Altaic people and nomads. He fought wars against them and beat them, and then he drew a line between 'us and them.' The Great Wall reminds us of this eternal barrier.

And, oh yeah, I would really love to see a weaponless and barehanded fight between Bruce Lee and Genghis Khan. It would be amusing to say the least.

^what does your last two posts got to do with genghis khan?

Feiying, please just edit your post next time instead of double posting.

i know many chinese have bad feelings toward genghis khan but it's already history, i mean every civilisations have their bad days too. honestly, to some extents, he's was a great fighter and leader.

What are you talking about great fighter the guy was a leader and ordered others to fight for him while he sat on his horse giving commands thats not a great fighter Bruce lee is a great fighter muhammed Ali is a great fighter don't be putting Genghis khan of all people on the same level as bruce or muhammed its just further adding to the insult of our people as well as that damn statue you people seem to admire so much.

Bruce Lee and Mohammed Ali couldn't have the chance and ability to make others fight for them

Napoleon, Chinggis Khaan, Alexander the Great were all great, because they could use others' power for themselves. They could command and lead, that's what makes a great leader

^Here we go.

Hitler and Khan in the same league. Suits you guys doesn't it?

China doesn't yet have a statue of Bruce Lee. But, a lot of Chinese kids as well as kids over this world have posters of Bruce in their homes. The fact is that Bruce Lee is more popular and adored by others than Genghis Khan will ever be. Bruce don't need us to fight for him. He is a fighter in his own right. I still want to see him in the ring with Genghis Khan.

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^Try to write more legible English. It hurts my eyes trying to read and understand what you just wrote.

I guess you have never tried Bruce Lee's "one inch punch." If you come to San Francisco, Seattle or L.A., you can still find Bruce's students who now teach his kungfu. Ask them to demonstrate the one-inch punch on your chest and see if it is for real or not. Even Jet Li says he can't do anything close to that.

Anyway,

Genghis Khan=murderer, destroyer and oppressor

Bruce Lee=icon/hero, fighter, philosopher, liberator

People tell me whose influence is more beneficial for young children and weaker people?

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look, i don't agree with khan's actions against my people but i have to admit, from historical facts and point of view, i admire the way how genghis khan fought, led his army and how he built an empire. however, it doesn't mean i worship him or agree with his barbaric actions against inncoent civilians. also, good in skills doesn't mean you're a good fighter, you need a brain too.

to Jt: personal attack is not allowed on AF.

Jt, just leave this feiuking moron in his way. He's a schizo and a wannabe bruce lee

Jt doesn't speak a lick of English so he resorts to personal attacks. I don't expect much of a debate from him/her. In real life, I know what i do to your brain.

Isn't this a PERSONAL ATTACK???? 2

plz just stop all those personal atacks and arguings and just get back to the topic.

i really think admiring doesn't equal to worshipping.

Please someone throw this topic to Mongolian Chat???

do have a point.

Look if you want to keep on your crusade of admiration for this guy then please go right ahead. But Im alittle confused as to how I need a brain??? If being stupid means Im not impressed by the feats of somebody who sat on a horse and gave commands like a tyrant and a dictator then I'll gladly be the stupid one here. What Im confused about your response is your kind of all over the place you either hate him like i do or you like him. But your kind of like "well I don't agree with his barbaric actions but on the other hand I admire the way he fought and built his empire". Now think about this you don't agree with his barbaric actions but has it slipped your mind that he acquired his empire by barbaric means. Don't you think your contradicting yourself here? You understand why Its hard for me to take what your saying seriously because you don't make sense. He didn't inherit his empire by shaking hands and holding constructive talks he did it in a way that YOU SAID YOURSELF was opposed too but somehow your common sense works in a way where the ends justifies the means even when you said earlier it was clearly WRONG. So whos the one here who really needs a brain chili? I've got a brain and along with that my pride and respect for those people that died do you? I wouldn't be surprised if some of you even admired serial killers like ted bundy and bernardo seeing how it doesn't seem to matter with you what they do as long as they do it in a very glamourous and high level.

*Never thought I would have to go up against one of my own people. Its kind if ironic in a way that even after genghis khans death after all these centuries he still manages to drive a wedge between our people!