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toki
if you're a momma's girl/boy, please join!. or if you simply adore your momma. beerchug.gif
freefallz
What do you mean by that?
xcutie
i'll join! i'm soo attached to my mom.. icon_redface.gif
ipod05
QUOTE (toki @ Mar 3 2006, 06:31 PM) *
if you're a momma's girl/boy, please join!. or if you simply adore your momma. beerchug.gif


r u alright? embarassedlaugh.gif ....sometimes u got to let it go
Suijen
...
sweetntwisted
I <3 my mom but we disagree on a lot of things and I've been mean to her but she was mean to me too. icon_redface.gif
caramel
I'm a Daddy's Girl.. So I don't think I qualify. icon_sad.gif
Lao_Dreamer
That's me icon_redface.gif
Lee! OTL ...
I love my mother but we get into arguments sometimes icon_redface.gif
Suijen
My mom yells at me for everything. One time when I was a little kid, my mom was trying to hit my brother, but missed and hit me instead.

I started crying, and then my mom yelled at me to stop crying.
freefallz
QUOTE (Suijen @ Mar 5 2006, 10:57 AM) *
My mom yells at me for everything. One time when I was a little kid, my mom was trying to hit my brother, but missed and hit me instead.

I started crying, and then my mom yelled at me to stop crying.

....


PwOn20red!!
Suijen
QUOTE (freefallz @ Mar 4 2006, 05:00 PM) *
....
PwOn20red!!


Yeah, my older brother said that too.
freefallz
Yea... how do you say "pwOned" in chinese?
Suijen
Waiyah-hahaha.
freefallz
..That's so un1337!

So I guess you're not a mommy's boy eh?
Suijen
^ Only because she forces it on me. I remember one time when she was giving me a haircut, she asked me, "How about I grow your hair long and snip off your wee wee so that you can become a girl?" (Three sons, no daughters).
I said no.
freefallz
Damn your mom is either incredibly mean or she had a strange sense of humour....
Suijen
QUOTE (freefallz @ Mar 4 2006, 05:12 PM) *
Damn your mom is either incredibly mean or she had a strange sense of humour....


She's very Cantonese.
sweetntwisted
QUOTE (Suijen @ Mar 4 2006, 06:10 PM) *
^ Only because she forces it on me. I remember one time when she was giving me a haircut, she asked me, "How about I grow your hair long and snip off your wee wee so that you can become a girl?" (Three sons, no daughters).
I said no.

good answer... biggrin.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
Suijen
I was a little kid, so I didn't know what the penis had to do with gender. I thought everyone had one of these. Apparently, only cool people do.
sweetntwisted
^oh yea? well...then I never want to be cool tongue.gif
freefallz
Well cool people have boobies too.
sweetntwisted
QUOTE (freefallz @ Mar 4 2006, 06:36 PM) *
Well cool people have boobies too.

well if cool ppl possess both penises AND boobies then I def DO NOT WANT TO BE COOL.
Suijen
QUOTE (sweetntwisted @ Mar 4 2006, 05:43 PM) *
well if cool ppl possess both penises AND boobies then I def DO NOT WANT TO BE COOL.


Too bad for you.
**J.I.S**
QUOTE (freefallz @ Mar 4 2006, 07:36 PM) *
Well cool people have boobies too.

good for you freefallz.
you get to hang around with cool people with boobies while comrade guan guan don't.
Suijen
QUOTE (**J.I.S** @ Mar 4 2006, 06:11 PM) *
good for you freefallz.
you get to hang around with cool people with boobies while comrade guan guan don't.


You know what JIS? When/if you get married, I'm going to convert your husband to Maoism, and then give you a portrait of Mao Zedong, which your husband will hang over the bedroom.

I will also give him a poster of this:

sweetntwisted
^^LoL good one JIS
**J.I.S**
QUOTE (Suijen @ Mar 4 2006, 08:13 PM) *
You know what JIS? When/if you get married, I'm going to convert your husband to Maoism, and then give you a portrait of Mao Zedong, which your husband will hang over the bedroom.

I will also give him a poster of this:

[img]http://www.iisg.nl/~landsberger/images/tailib06.jpg[/img

don't worry comrade,this shall re-educate you and help get you back with the ladies:
http://www.nomas.org/index.html

oh while you're at it, take a look at this too:
http://mcel.pacificu.edu/aspac/papers/scho.../Chen/chen.html
Suijen
Awl, you two are trying to make me look bad again.

And I suppose you'll counter what I first said right now with "You make yourself look bad" too eh?

Well I know my own quote as well!

"Women Hold Up Half the Sky".

You Might know this quote, as you'll soon have a poster of the person who said it in your room someday.
**J.I.S**
QUOTE (Suijen @ Mar 4 2006, 08:24 PM) *
You Might know this quote, as you'll soon have a poster of the person who said it in your room someday.

tongue.gif
not before you have sun yat sen's portrait in your room
Chinese DesertFox
Methylenedioxymethamphetamine?

Perhaps lysergic acid diethylamide?

Or maybe just the good ol' tetrahydrocannabinol?
Suijen
QUOTE (**J.I.S** @ Mar 4 2006, 06:27 PM) *
tongue.gif
not before you have sun yat sen's portrait in your room


Chigga please, I feel no pain in putting Dr. Sun's portrait in one's room.

Besides, Mao was way more feminist than Sun...one might even say...feminazi.
sweetntwisted
QUOTE (Suijen @ Mar 4 2006, 07:32 PM) *
Besides, Mao was way more feminist than Sun...one might even say...feminazi.


oh yeah? elaborate


QUOTE (Chinese DesertFox @ Mar 4 2006, 07:28 PM) *
Methylenedioxymethamphetamine?

Perhaps lysergic acid diethylamide?

Or maybe just the good ol' tetrahydrocannabinol?

are you a drug pusher? shifty.gif
Suijen
^ At the height of his time? You could have been killed for saying something sexist or seemingly so, as it would have been considered reactionary.
sweetntwisted
^hmmmm.. interesting... I need to learn about Mao then
Suijen
Wrong link.

Here you go. He was also a momma's boy, lol.
sweetntwisted
nice imaginary link...
Suijen
QUOTE
A man in China is usually subjected to the domination of three systems of authority [political authority, family authority and religious authority].... As for women, in addition to being dominated by these three systems of authority, they are also dominated by the men (the authority of the husband). These four authorities - political, family, religious and masculine - are the embodiment of the whole feudal-patriarchal ideology and system, and are the four thick ropes binding the Chinese people, particularly the peasants. How the peasants have overthrown the political authority of the landlords in the countryside has been described above. The political authority of the landlords is the backbone of all the other systems of authority. With that overturned the family authority, the religious authority and the authority of the husband all begin to totter.... As to the authority of the husband, this has always been weaker among the poor peasants because, out of economic necessity, their womenfolk have to do more manual labour than the women of the richer classes and therefore have more say and greater power of decision in family matters. With the increasing bankruptcy of the rural economy in recent years, the basis for men's domination over women has already been undermined. With the rise of the peasant movement, the women in many places have now begun to organize rural women's associations; the opportunity has come for them to lift up their heads, and the authority of the husband is getting shakier every day. In a word, the whole feudal-patriarchal ideology and system is tottering with the growth of the peasants' power.

"Report on an Investigation of the Peasant Movement in Hunan" (March 1927), Selected Works, Vol. I, pp. 44-46.*

Unite and take part in production and political activity to improve the economic and political status of women.

Inscription for the magazine, Women of New China, printed in its first issue, July 20, 1949.

Protect the interests of the youth, women and children - provide assistance to young students who cannot afford to continue their studies, help the youth and women to organize in order to participate on an equal footing in all work useful to the war effort and to social progress, ensure freedom of marriage and equality as between men and women, and give young people and children a useful education....

"On Coalition Government" (April 24, 1945), Selected Works, Vol. III, p. 288.*

[In agricultural production] our fundamental task is to adjust the use of labour power in an organized way and to encourage women to do farm work.

"Our Economic Policy" (January 23, 1934), Selected Works, Vo1. I, p. 142.*

In order to build a great socialist society it is of the utmost importance to arouse the broad masses of women to join in productive activity. Men and women must receive equal pay for equal work in production. Genuine equality between the sexes can only be realized in the process of the socialist transformation of society as a whole.

Introductory note to "Women Have Gone to the Labour Front" (1955), The Socialist Upsurge in China's Countryside, Chinese ed., Vol. I.

With the completion of agricultural cooperation, many co-operatives are finding themselves short of labour. It has become necessary to arouse the great mass of women who did not work in the fields before to take their place on the labour front.... China's women are a vast reserve of labour power. This reserve should be tapped in the struggle to build a great socialist country.

Introductory note to "Solving the Labour Shortage by Arousing the Women to Join in Production" (1955), The Socialist Upsurge in China's Countryside, Chinese ed., Vol. II.

Enable every woman who can work to take her place on the labour front, under the principle of equal pay for equal work. This should be done as quickly as possible.

Introductory note to "On Widening the Scope of Women's Work in the Agricultural Co-operative Movement" (1955), The Socialist Upsurge in China's Countryside, Chinese ed., Vol. I.


This is one of them. Like all Marxists, Mao believed that the only division should exist with class, so that meant that the proletariat got as many friends as possible, and one way to eliminate conflict was by not being sexists. Also, sexist ideas were part of the old world, which was heavily scorned. During the time of the 1950s, Mao made sexism a backward idea that was considered wrong and incorrect. At the height of the Cultural Revolution, Red Guards went around enforcing Mao's ideas to an extreme, to the point of witch hunting. Naturally, if you were sexists, you would have been criticized for having backwards ideas.
sweetntwisted
thanks for the info icon_smile.gif if you got any more, please pm me.

btw why dont you consider yourself a marxist if you like Mao so much?
Suijen
QUOTE (sweetntwisted @ Mar 4 2006, 07:13 PM) *
thanks for the info icon_smile.gif

btw why dont you consider yourself a marxist if you like Mao so much?


True Marxism is close to anarchism rather that the "communist" countries in history such as the USSR and the PRC. In order for that to happen, there must be an evolution in the peoples' mindsets, which creates a type of greedless culture. The evolution from feudalism to capitalism to socialism and finally to anarchism really puts me at odds, as I don't see that happening. Also, since it's anarchistic by nature, there's no more state, and thus it goes at odds with nationalism, or fascism (the preservation of state). Therefore, the Chinese identity will be washed away and become the global proletariat identity.

Frankly, I don't see people evolving a greedless culture, and I don't see how leaderless city-states will match the production of a centralized state. Also, I like China, and I don't want the Chinese identity to dissolve out.
I'd prefer a Maoist state that allows for capitalism of private businesses. If it were up to me, the government would monopolize essential businesses (like energy and drugs) and be laissez-faire in stupid stuff like Hello Kitty dolls or some$hit.

Mao is a kind of true Marxists who was heavily against anything capitalistic and was for the active expansion of marxism, and a continuous source of class-conflict. Leninism is the opposite, but doesn't really call for a militaristic culture, or "heroism". So that's why I'm neither, because I find that neither is the best form (though close to it).\



I don't like Mao as a marxist but as a nationalist.
xcutie
QUOTE (Suijen @ Mar 4 2006, 03:57 PM) *
My mom yells at me for everything. One time when I was a little kid, my mom was trying to hit my brother, but missed and hit me instead.

I started crying, and then my mom yelled at me to stop crying.


oh my.. your mom is pretty mean.. icon_neutral.gif
Suijen
QUOTE (xcutie @ Mar 4 2006, 08:13 PM) *
oh my.. your mom is pretty mean.. icon_neutral.gif


It's a Chinese thing, haha.
sun.hee
i'll join. i'm a total umma's girl. beerchug.gif

not really a daddy's girl though. mum and i are always allied against him embarassedlaugh.gif

Speaking of Marx, I'm currently taking a class, and forced to practically memorize his excerpts.
His writing style is a snore but his theories are interesting. bow down to the proletariat revolution!
sweetntwisted
hmm this is clan is turning out to be pretty interesting...
Suijen
QUOTE (sweetntwisted @ Mar 4 2006, 08:20 PM) *
hmm this is clan is turning out to be pretty interesting...


You commandered it to promote your feminist ideals.
freefallz
QUOTE (**J.I.S** @ Mar 5 2006, 12:11 PM) *
good for you freefallz.
you get to hang around with cool people with boobies while comrade guan guan don't.

Who is comrade guan guan? shifty.gif
Suijen
QUOTE (freefallz @ Mar 4 2006, 08:29 PM) *
Who is comrade guan guan? shifty.gif


JIS's friend. No one on AF really.
freefallz
Wow alot of feminists took offense for the mentioning of "boobies" eh.
sweetntwisted
^stop assuming things you bluntly immature singing mouse

QUOTE (Suijen @ Mar 4 2006, 09:24 PM) *
You commandered it to promote your feminist ideals.

icon_redface.gif I just asked a few questions...didnt "commandered" anything unless you like being "commandered" biggrin.gif
Suijen
QUOTE (sweetntwisted @ Mar 4 2006, 08:40 PM) *
icon_redface.gif geez I asked ...not "commandered" unless you like being "commandered" biggrin.gif


Absolutely. But only if you too are willing to be commandered.
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