welcome riceygirl

Oh man, Philippines is 109 years old!

Phillipine also in my travel list.

hmm... we need more posters here...

At this time, people may be busy with their works or study. But they will come back for it.

Plus, my goals/objectives for this clan is long-term, meaning we are expecting the result of this year "best clan" competition. So, we wont rush for it, coz we are still half way to the contest.

Anyway, We should save this clan from disappearing.

Just keep posting.

Okay... traditonal weapons are out. Let's have a new topic. How about.... traditional dances?

Not yet, i got one more thing to show.

here: copy and paste to your web browser.

spaces.msn.com/denithsky

Oh, is that your space, nikkie? Tell me, are you a good representation of young generation of Cambodia? In general, do younger generation in Cambodia are very fluent in English like you, and have both the will and ability to know other ASEAN countries better? Auh Kuhn!

yes true, there should me more people like you nikkie

@Both: I dont know if i can be a good representatives, but i will try my best if i am. For Cambodian new generations, i can see them really confident with their English, although sometimes i find some errors in their English, as they tend to combine Khmer and English altogether. (sometimes i heard people pronouce "Compurer" instead of "Computer"), but in general, the English language knowledge level of every young people here is high.

Oh, from now on you guys should call me Denith, this name will get you closer to me.

ASEAN-10 Fact Sheet

http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/fs/asean.pdf

GDP PPP: almost $3 Trillion

GDP PPP per capita: $5,229

Any news about ASEAN?

Hi all, just want to let you know, right now I'm preparing a comic with characters from ASEAN countries. It's still in a very early stage, and I can use inputs from you. Right now, I'm thinking about names of the characters... feel free to let me know what you're thinking!

cool! i wrote down some names in Filipinochat already, just check them out

Wow, great idea.

Hmm... do you guys know ASEAN official website?

^^

wow philippines is included!

sampalok and balot

http://www.aseansec.org/

Thanks Bhaskara, hmm, I just finished Final Examination today. I will try to bring news about ASEAN to this thread.

Please share songs from your country so we could each others music

Borrowed Time
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4YoSM4_Nozs

Back to Me
http://youtube.com/watch?v=823_RvR4ktU

24hours
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TY_HvLR8lOg

from CUESHE

Okay, i'll have a look.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qGREMJCS69c

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EXkfU1klbJU&...ted&search=

http://youtube.com/watch?v=d7kRsB_uTwA&...ted&search=

Hmm... these three shall do.

ASEAN: Let us move ahead


http://youtube.com/watch?v=SoW4xKxBWfs

I just came back from Siem Reap. The place is beautiful and the people are so cultured. Will definitely return to Cambodia soon.

Hermawan Kartajaya on Metro about Think Asean Book


http://youtube.com/watch?v=r3dfISoy6mA&...ted&search=

Hey everyone, as you know i used to stated some kind of determinations for our ASEAN Clan, but due to some problems (some people were busy), its seems that my determinations will not be done well. But, i make it long-term plan. Its about sharing. So, lets do it more.

Don't worry, Denith. We just need to find the right method, and everything takes time

So what best news these days. Bhaskara, I just coming back from Bandung. Didn't realized about you massage earlier????
Nice and old city about Bandung and ITB......

hi guys, I just come up with an idea.

Let's write "ASEAN" in your language character... I'll make one soon.

Oh, you can write it by transliterated ASEAN or simply translated ASEAN

hi guys, I just come up with an idea.

Let's write "ASEAN" in your language character... I'll make one soon.

Oh, you can write it by transliterated ASEAN or simply translated ASEAN

betong: huh? u just came back from Bandung? Why didn't you tell me? I could show you around, you know! Too bad. No, I didn't get your message... I think

Nikkie: We know ASEAN as ASEAN too in Indonesia, but we also have the translated version (which I'm sure is really similar to that of Malaysian), Persatuan Bangsa-bangsa Asia Tenggara (PERBARA).... I could write it in Javanese or Sundanese or other Indonesian characters, but most of them are not supported by Unicode

ASEAN in Filipino

Kapisanan ng mga Bansa sa Timog Silangang Asya

ASEAN in Malaysian

Pertubuhan Negara-Negara Asia Tenggara or ASEAN

Too bad But anyway I didn't have too much time since I attend the conference there.

ASEAN turns 40 today.

Happy Anniversary!

Oh, yeah! It's the 8th day of August already! Happy Birthday, ASEAN!!
Let's celebrate!

The Postal Officials all over ASEAN countries released a series of stamps commemorating the 40th Birthday of ASEAN, which is ASEAN Joint Stamp Issue. It features famous buildings from the member countries: Secretariat Building (Brunei Darussalam), National Museum (Cambodia), Fatahillah Museum (Indonesia), Typical House (Laos), Malayan Railway Headquarters Building (Malaysia), Yangon Post Office (Myanmar), Malacanang Palace (Philippines), National Museum (Singapore), Vivanmek Mansion (Thailand) and Presidential Palace (Vietnam).

So, philatelists and alike, don't miss this rare opportunity!

Khmer is Sa-ma-kom Pro-Chea-Cheat A-sii-A-kne I hope to print it here.

I really love Khmer script, it's really beautiful. It's really intricate and complicated, is it really hard to learn?

Hey, hey, how about posting our traditional scripts? There are many scripts in SEA, like Thai, Khmer, Javanese, Baybayin, etc.

Thats a great idea... I've done for mine.

That's not fair Bhaskara !!!! Malay don't have their own script.... j/k

Post your script guys... I wanna see it too and how much the script related to each other... C'mon...

Malaysian doesnt??? Can anyone tell me more?

betong: ahahaha, maybe you can do it in Arabic instead? I think I saw Jawi thread in Malaysian chat

nikkie: I don't think Malay have ever had their own script.... but who knows, maybe they did in the past but we just haven't found out yet

I'll post ASEAN in some of our traditional scripts very soon from now. I think I will start with the Javanese Script....

But isn't Malay and Indo has a very similar culture like Cambodia n Thailand?

Very similar, yes. We think of Malaysia as our sisters and brothers of the same race (at least our western part). But What is Malaysian is not automatically Indonesian and what is Indonesian doesn't mean it's also Malaysian. Our languages (and other Malays in Brunei and Singapore) are from the same root, Riau Malay (Riau is a place in Indonesia). But Indonesia also has many other regional languages and dialects (Javanese, Sundanese, Buginese, etc).

Currently, we don't know anything if Malay had ever had its own script. Back then, Malay was written in Sanskrit, Pallava, and Javanese, later it was written in Arabic and nowadays it's in Latin Alphabets.

Other languages in Indonesia, however, had their own scripts as they are of different ethnicity from the Malay. Like the Javanese and Balinese people (Hanacaraka/Carakan script), Sundanese people (Sunda Kuna script), various Bataks people (Surat Batak script), Rejang people (Kaganga script), Buginese people(Lontara script), etc. Javanese script look a lil bit like your Khmer script, while the Buginese script look somewhat similar to Philippines' Baybayin script.

I hope you're not confused

@ Nikkie Malay cited in Bhaskara essay was refer to Melayu ethnic, the ethnic that resided present day Malaysia, Sumatera & Kalimantan (Indonesia) and Singapore or maybe even Southern Thailand. Nowdays we are more related to Arab derivation script Jawa as our indegenous script.

Most of the script founded citing about Malay was write in either Sanskrit, Pallava, Kawi or Arabic. So even Jawi related to Persian and Pakistan Arabic script. So I didn't sure if Malay have its own script back then ??? Maybe uncle Malaccan can help regarding this.

@Nikkie: Yeah, I probably should have explained to you before that by "Malay", it could mean:
1. Malay Race. This includes Malaysian, Bruneian, Filipino, Singaporean (the Malay ones), and Western Indonesian.
2. Malay Ethnicity. This includes the ethnic group that call themselves "Melayu" (Malay), who lives in Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, and some Indonesia islands.

@batang: What is the difference of Malay's Jawi with Arab's Hijaiyyah?

^ Jawi already been modified to make it suitable for Malay pronouncation. Some alphabet are added to cater Bahasa phonology.

If you refer this website http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawi_script you can saw the different.

Thanks all, i should learn more about this. You both explain well.

Here you go! ASEAN in 2 regional languages and scripts from Indonesia!!

The 1st one is in Javanese (Hanacaraka/Caraka script) and the 2nd one is in Sundanese (Sunda Kuna/Pakuan script). I'm sorry but I currently have only these two Hopefully I can post the others in the future.

ASEAN in Baybayin (Philippine script)