Congrats to Chloe Dao for winning on season 2 of Project Runway.
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Say's that she's from Vietnam but I swore she said she and her family are from Laos.
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Chloe is a beautiful and bright woman of Viet parents born in Laos. Like other Lao refugees, she moved to the US with her parents at the age of 8. As south-east asians, we should congratulate her for ambition, courage, and determination, and wish her a lot of success.
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My best Vietnamese friend's family lived in Laos also, his mom speaks more Laotian language than Vietnamese, but they all have viet names
mmm i guess does she feel more culturally to laos then to vietnam 
QUOTE (Viety_Cent @ Mar 10 2006, 10:48 AM) 
mmm i guess does she feel more culturally to laos then to vietnam
She might have Viet blood. But she breathed the air above Laos, she tasted the food grown from the land of Laos, and she drank the water flowing through Laos. To me, it would be fair to say that she is Lao.
She is probably more American than anything else, especially when she left Laos at the age of 8 and has been since educated in the US and has worked as a costume designer. She is now 34. A part from that I don't know whether she has ever been back to Laos or Vietnam even just for visits. She should be proud of her multi-culture background.
whatev.
she definitely did not deserve to win; and i'm sick of all these people rooting for her because she's south east asian. pay attention to design.
she definitely did not deserve to win; and i'm sick of all these people rooting for her because she's south east asian. pay attention to design.
QUOTE (chickery @ Mar 10 2006, 02:54 PM)
whatev.
she definitely did not deserve to win; and i'm sick of all these people rooting for her because she's south east asian. pay attention to design.
she definitely did not deserve to win; and i'm sick of all these people rooting for her because she's south east asian. pay attention to design.
how do we know that her design wasn't good enough? not everyone possesses vast knowledge on fashion design and not everyone has same taste as you.
beside, what is so wrong about cheering for a fellow SEAsian?
people who dont know fashion clearly do not know what they want, therefore should not even be rooting for anyone. if they dont have a knowledge of fashion they shouldn't be allowed to critique designers.
project runway isnt about race, its about design. Therefore rooting based on her nationality is just idiotic.
project runway isnt about race, its about design. Therefore rooting based on her nationality is just idiotic.
QUOTE (chickery @ Mar 10 2006, 03:34 PM)
people who dont know fashion clearly do not know what they want, therefore should not even be rooting for anyone. if they dont have a knowledge of fashion they shouldn't be allowed to critique designers.
project runway isnt about race, its about design. Therefore rooting based on her nationality is just idiotic.
project runway isnt about race, its about design. Therefore rooting based on her nationality is just idiotic.
are there judges in the contest that know enough about design to decide who should win?
"""..project runway isnt about race, its about design. Therefore rooting based on her nationality is just idiot"""
Do you assume that the judges were a bunch of incompetent people who awarded a winner who did not merit to win, i.e because she was an Asian and/or a woman?
Rooting based on her nationality? You missed the point.
Did anyone here said they watched the show and specifically rooted for Chloe Dao at all cost for the sole reason she happens to be a south-east asian?
People here congratulated someone who was chosen as the winner of thre Project Runaway and who happens to be a former south-east asian refugee, like many of us. What's wrong with that?
"""people who dont know fashion clearly do not know what they want, therefore should not even be rooting for anyone. if they dont have a knowledge of fashion they shouldn't be allowed to critique designers.""""
HAHAHA!!! Please wake up, Chickery, and come down to earth where we all belong!
Do you assume that the judges were a bunch of incompetent people who awarded a winner who did not merit to win, i.e because she was an Asian and/or a woman?
Rooting based on her nationality? You missed the point.
Did anyone here said they watched the show and specifically rooted for Chloe Dao at all cost for the sole reason she happens to be a south-east asian?
People here congratulated someone who was chosen as the winner of thre Project Runaway and who happens to be a former south-east asian refugee, like many of us. What's wrong with that?
"""people who dont know fashion clearly do not know what they want, therefore should not even be rooting for anyone. if they dont have a knowledge of fashion they shouldn't be allowed to critique designers.""""
HAHAHA!!! Please wake up, Chickery, and come down to earth where we all belong!
well thailand does have 30million laos born thai, we got at least one viet born laos =)
QUOTE (NTV @ Mar 10 2006, 01:25 PM)
She might have Viet blood. But she breathed the air above Laos, she tasted the food grown from the land of Laos, and she drank the water flowing through Laos. To me, it would be fair to say that she is Lao.
She is vietnamese by blood !
but her homeland is probably Laos since she and her family grew up there
QUOTE (Bounthy @ Mar 10 2006, 04:06 PM)
"""..project runway isnt about race, its about design. Therefore rooting based on her nationality is just idiot"""
Do you assume that the judges were a bunch of incompetent people who awarded a winner who did not merit to win, i.e because she was an Asian and/or a woman?
Rooting based on her nationality? You missed the point.
Did anyone here said they watched the show and specifically rooted for Chloe Dao at all cost for the sole reason she happens to be a south-east asian?
People here congratulated someone who was chosen as the winner of thre Project Runaway and who happens to be a former south-east asian refugee, like many of us. What's wrong with that?
Do you assume that the judges were a bunch of incompetent people who awarded a winner who did not merit to win, i.e because she was an Asian and/or a woman?
Rooting based on her nationality? You missed the point.
Did anyone here said they watched the show and specifically rooted for Chloe Dao at all cost for the sole reason she happens to be a south-east asian?
People here congratulated someone who was chosen as the winner of thre Project Runaway and who happens to be a former south-east asian refugee, like many of us. What's wrong with that?
I guess nothing, although the show is about fashion not SEAsian refugees. And Chloe didn't have the greatest designs.
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"""people who dont know fashion clearly do not know what they want, therefore should not even be rooting for anyone. if they dont have a knowledge of fashion they shouldn't be allowed to critique designers.""""
HAHAHA!!! Please wake up, Chickery, and come down to earth where we all belong!
HAHAHA!!! Please wake up, Chickery, and come down to earth where we all belong!
You're talking to a fashion design major who is part of the prestigious program at the best fashion/art school in IL. She knows her $hit.
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Mar 11 2006, 12:35 AM)
I guess nothing, although the show is about fashion not SEAsian refugees. And Chloe didn't have the greatest designs.
You're talking to a fashion design major who is part of the prestigious program at the best fashion/art school in IL. She knows her $hit.
You're talking to a fashion design major who is part of the prestigious program at the best fashion/art school in IL. She knows her $hit.
LOL talk about owned.
AHH it's PB! 
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Mar 11 2006, 12:47 AM)
AHH it's PB!
hi love
Chynagongju:
""""""You're talking to a fashion design major who is part of the prestigious program at the best fashion/art school in IL. She knows her $hit."""""
Oh, I see! She knows her $hit!
So, for whom she creates her design and to whom she will sell her cloth, and because of whom she may become a famous designer?
Wouldn't a designer designs cloth based on the taste and preference of customers? or are customers a just a bunch of "whatever" who will buy anything because a designer tells them what they should wear?
Why then American Idol relies entirely on polls from viewers to decide who will be eliminated and who will become an American Idol? Are those millions of viewers who vote an expert in singing and music?
I think there is a bit of misunderstanding on the definition of a real designer here!
Iclover:
""""there isn't even such a thing as a collective Se-asian pride. there's east asian pride only cos it's 3 friggin countries that have similar culture. and even that is restricted mainly to minorities on the internet. lmao."""
Where did that "pride" suddenly come from?
Iclover:
""""there isn't even such a thing as a collective Se-asian pride. there's east asian pride only cos it's 3 friggin countries that have similar culture. and even that is restricted mainly to minorities on the internet. lmao."""
Where did that "pride" suddenly come from?
""""""You're talking to a fashion design major who is part of the prestigious program at the best fashion/art school in IL. She knows her $hit."""""
Oh, I see! She knows her $hit!
So, for whom she creates her design and to whom she will sell her cloth, and because of whom she may become a famous designer?
Wouldn't a designer designs cloth based on the taste and preference of customers? or are customers a just a bunch of "whatever" who will buy anything because a designer tells them what they should wear?
Why then American Idol relies entirely on polls from viewers to decide who will be eliminated and who will become an American Idol? Are those millions of viewers who vote an expert in singing and music?
I think there is a bit of misunderstanding on the definition of a real designer here!
Iclover:
""""there isn't even such a thing as a collective Se-asian pride. there's east asian pride only cos it's 3 friggin countries that have similar culture. and even that is restricted mainly to minorities on the internet. lmao."""
Where did that "pride" suddenly come from?
Iclover:
""""there isn't even such a thing as a collective Se-asian pride. there's east asian pride only cos it's 3 friggin countries that have similar culture. and even that is restricted mainly to minorities on the internet. lmao."""
Where did that "pride" suddenly come from?
QUOTE (Bounthy @ Mar 11 2006, 02:13 PM)
Chynagongju:
""""""You're talking to a fashion design major who is part of the prestigious program at the best fashion/art school in IL. She knows her $hit."""""
Oh, I see! She knows her $hit!
So, for whom she creates her design and to whom she will sell her cloth, and because of whom she may become a famous designer?
Wouldn't a designer designs cloth based on the taste and preference of customers? or are customers a just a bunch of "whatever" who will buy anything because a designer tells them what they should wear?
Why then American Idol relies entirely on polls from viewers to decide who will be eliminated and who will become an American Idol? Are those millions of viewers who vote an expert in singing and music?
I think there is a bit of misunderstanding on the definition of a real designer here!
""""""You're talking to a fashion design major who is part of the prestigious program at the best fashion/art school in IL. She knows her $hit."""""
Oh, I see! She knows her $hit!
So, for whom she creates her design and to whom she will sell her cloth, and because of whom she may become a famous designer?
Wouldn't a designer designs cloth based on the taste and preference of customers? or are customers a just a bunch of "whatever" who will buy anything because a designer tells them what they should wear?
Why then American Idol relies entirely on polls from viewers to decide who will be eliminated and who will become an American Idol? Are those millions of viewers who vote an expert in singing and music?
I think there is a bit of misunderstanding on the definition of a real designer here!
I think you're lost. The point is, since she's a fashion design major, she probably KNOWS more about fashion than the average joe.
Also to answer your question, she doesn't CATER to anyone. She designs for herself. She innovates. That's what it means to be a designer. You create NEW fashions. Not the same old same old altered a bit.
Yes, they would design based on the taste and preferences of customers, however that's just for MAINSTREAM designers. High fashion designers DO NOT follow that. Chloe is for mainstream. Santino is for high fashion. Big difference.
And now you're trying to compare fashion to singing. Not really a good comparison.
If you're interested in more analysis, go to the Vietnamese Chat thread about Chloe Dao.
Chynagongju:
I don't think that I am lost. Or we are both lost.
My replies were addressed to the earlier comments made by Chickery. On the other hand, in your posts, you may use "she" to refer to Chloe Dao. We may be talking about two different people.
I don't think that I am lost. Or we are both lost.
My replies were addressed to the earlier comments made by Chickery. On the other hand, in your posts, you may use "she" to refer to Chloe Dao. We may be talking about two different people.
Eh?
But you quoted comments I made?
But you quoted comments I made?
QUOTE (Bounthy @ Mar 10 2006, 04:06 PM)
"""..project runway isnt about race, its about design. Therefore rooting based on her nationality is just idiot"""
Do you assume that the judges were a bunch of incompetent people who awarded a winner who did not merit to win, i.e because she was an Asian and/or a woman?
Rooting based on her nationality? You missed the point.
Did anyone here said they watched the show and specifically rooted for Chloe Dao at all cost for the sole reason she happens to be a south-east asian?
People here congratulated someone who was chosen as the winner of thre Project Runaway and who happens to be a former south-east asian refugee, like many of us. What's wrong with that?
"""people who dont know fashion clearly do not know what they want, therefore should not even be rooting for anyone. if they dont have a knowledge of fashion they shouldn't be allowed to critique designers.""""
HAHAHA!!! Please wake up, Chickery, and come down to earth where we all belong!
Do you assume that the judges were a bunch of incompetent people who awarded a winner who did not merit to win, i.e because she was an Asian and/or a woman?
Rooting based on her nationality? You missed the point.
Did anyone here said they watched the show and specifically rooted for Chloe Dao at all cost for the sole reason she happens to be a south-east asian?
People here congratulated someone who was chosen as the winner of thre Project Runaway and who happens to be a former south-east asian refugee, like many of us. What's wrong with that?
"""people who dont know fashion clearly do not know what they want, therefore should not even be rooting for anyone. if they dont have a knowledge of fashion they shouldn't be allowed to critique designers.""""
HAHAHA!!! Please wake up, Chickery, and come down to earth where we all belong!
If I missed the point, it's because you so poorly explained yours.
"As south-east asians, we should congratulate her for ambition, courage, and determination, and wish her a lot of success."
Clearly, if Daniel or Santino won, you would not have had the same feelings. You claimed to have wanted Chloe to win, but why? you mention nothing about her design capability, which is what the show is about.
Because you're twisting my words, I'll clarify.
Michael Kors is sucessful, but on what level? His designs are not only run-of-the mill, but they are mass produced for every girl who thinks she knows something about fashion. Nina Garcia of ELLE and her staff struggle everyday to keep up with competing with VOGUE, the true giant in the fashion industry. ELLE is copycat work, and their insight is laughable.
As soon as you bring up her nationality, you've already shown it's not all about her design. You should be congratulating her ONLY for her win, not for being a SE Asian refugee and winning. If you can't see the idocrity of that, then I guess ignorance really is bliss.
Let me put it in words you will understand. Your mind does not have the creativy knowledge to even begin to comprehend what a true artist is able to do. All you can see is the end result.
You want me to come back down to earth with you? When people know nothing of design, creativity, and consturction? Please. I'm much more comfortable where I am, laughing at your naivety.
QUOTE (Bounthy @ Mar 11 2006, 02:14 PM)
Chynagongju:
Oh, I see! She knows her $hit!
So, for whom she creates her design and to whom she will sell her cloth, and because of whom she may become a famous designer?
Wouldn't a designer designs cloth based on the taste and preference of customers? or are customers a just a bunch of "whatever" who will buy anything because a designer tells them what they should wear?
Why then American Idol relies entirely on polls from viewers to decide who will be eliminated and who will become an American Idol? Are those millions of viewers who vote an expert in singing and music?
I think there is a bit of misunderstanding on the definition of a real designer here!
Oh, I see! She knows her $hit!
So, for whom she creates her design and to whom she will sell her cloth, and because of whom she may become a famous designer?
Wouldn't a designer designs cloth based on the taste and preference of customers? or are customers a just a bunch of "whatever" who will buy anything because a designer tells them what they should wear?
Why then American Idol relies entirely on polls from viewers to decide who will be eliminated and who will become an American Idol? Are those millions of viewers who vote an expert in singing and music?
I think there is a bit of misunderstanding on the definition of a real designer here!
Clearly, I know more sh!t than you.
No, a designer does NOT base their designs on what consumers want. Thats was a marketer, a business person does. You have it backwards. You dont even realize it, but everyone wears cloting because they are told they like it; you really think in the 80s, people enjoyed uncomfortable shoulder pads and sweaty leggings? No. Designers made the look, and the people followed. Open up your eyes.
American Idol? Tell me why Clay Aiken's sales have surpasses the rest of the final 12's CD sales, including Ruben? You think people know what they want... If they did, the sales would have reflected the results. THEY DIDN'T.
There most definitely IS a misunderstanding of a true designer. I'm truly sorry you can't understand what it really means.
Man WTF? STFU all of you.
What? Why.
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Mar 11 2006, 08:29 PM)
What? Why.
You heard him.
you the man 
fighting over something stupid
fighting over something stupid
Chickery:
There have been no word twistings going on from my part. I invited you to re-look at the discussion from posts # 1 to # 8, before your posts # 9 and 11. I clearly understood that we were simply CONGRATULATING Chloe Dao who had just been reported as the winner of the project runaway contest. I had not watched the show but saw the result in the web when the winner was announced.
Why were we doing that? Purely because, in order to be among the 3 finalists, we considered that Chloe should have beated out several candidates several rounds earlier, and that the decision that she was the winner was made by a group of judges who had ample experience in fashion design. Therefore, we assumed she merited to win, and to win this contest you have to be clearly talented. Especially, for us it's quite unusual for a former refugee from a poor country like Laos, who, like us, had probably gone through hard time and struggles to reach this country. For us who were in the same situation, what she has achieved is remarkable. We should CONGRATULATE her for her success. It's very natural and it is NOT idiotic.
From then, you came in and let's look at what you wrote in posts #9 and #11:
#9
“”””whatev.
she definitely did not deserve to win; and i'm sick of all these people rooting for her because she's south east asian. pay attention to design.””””
#11
“”””people who dont know fashion clearly do not know what they want, therefore should not even be rooting for anyone. if they dont have a knowledge of fashion they shouldn't be allowed to critique designers.
project runway isnt about race, its about design. Therefore rooting based on her nationality is just idiotic.””””
What's all of this about?
For me, rooting for someone is having been present or watched the contest from the beginning and hoping AT ALL COST (or FANATICALLY) that a favorite (i.e. Chloe Dao) will win BEFORE the winner was announced. That's not the case.
Most of us, at least I, had not watched the show. Or even if we had watched the show, how could you assume that we would have automatically rooted for Chloe Dao and not the other contestants because she happens to be South-east Asian or Lao or Viet. That's a wrong assumption!
You said “...if they dont have a knowledge of fashion they shouldn't be allowed to critique designers. “””
Where did we critique designers??? Where did we say we admired Chloe Dao design or disliked the other finalists' design? We only congratulated Chloe Dao for having won the contest! Do we need to have knowledge in fashion design to be able to congratulate her? That would be ridiculous!
Chickery, what is clear to me is that you didn't think Chloe Dao deserved to win and felt quite upset, and I respect you opinion and feeling. But don't try to direct your anger toward us and lecture us based on your assumption on what we would be like for having congratulated the winner, who happens to be one of us!
Take it easy. Cheers!
There have been no word twistings going on from my part. I invited you to re-look at the discussion from posts # 1 to # 8, before your posts # 9 and 11. I clearly understood that we were simply CONGRATULATING Chloe Dao who had just been reported as the winner of the project runaway contest. I had not watched the show but saw the result in the web when the winner was announced.
Why were we doing that? Purely because, in order to be among the 3 finalists, we considered that Chloe should have beated out several candidates several rounds earlier, and that the decision that she was the winner was made by a group of judges who had ample experience in fashion design. Therefore, we assumed she merited to win, and to win this contest you have to be clearly talented. Especially, for us it's quite unusual for a former refugee from a poor country like Laos, who, like us, had probably gone through hard time and struggles to reach this country. For us who were in the same situation, what she has achieved is remarkable. We should CONGRATULATE her for her success. It's very natural and it is NOT idiotic.
From then, you came in and let's look at what you wrote in posts #9 and #11:
#9
“”””whatev.
she definitely did not deserve to win; and i'm sick of all these people rooting for her because she's south east asian. pay attention to design.””””
#11
“”””people who dont know fashion clearly do not know what they want, therefore should not even be rooting for anyone. if they dont have a knowledge of fashion they shouldn't be allowed to critique designers.
project runway isnt about race, its about design. Therefore rooting based on her nationality is just idiotic.””””
What's all of this about?
For me, rooting for someone is having been present or watched the contest from the beginning and hoping AT ALL COST (or FANATICALLY) that a favorite (i.e. Chloe Dao) will win BEFORE the winner was announced. That's not the case.
Most of us, at least I, had not watched the show. Or even if we had watched the show, how could you assume that we would have automatically rooted for Chloe Dao and not the other contestants because she happens to be South-east Asian or Lao or Viet. That's a wrong assumption!
You said “...if they dont have a knowledge of fashion they shouldn't be allowed to critique designers. “””
Where did we critique designers??? Where did we say we admired Chloe Dao design or disliked the other finalists' design? We only congratulated Chloe Dao for having won the contest! Do we need to have knowledge in fashion design to be able to congratulate her? That would be ridiculous!
Chickery, what is clear to me is that you didn't think Chloe Dao deserved to win and felt quite upset, and I respect you opinion and feeling. But don't try to direct your anger toward us and lecture us based on your assumption on what we would be like for having congratulated the winner, who happens to be one of us!
Take it easy. Cheers!
She is Vietnamese Laotian American right ? I just know her ,because she has recently appeared on a popular Vietnamese music show called '' Paris by Night'' . When she was interviewed , she speaks english . That is why many Vietnamese have attacked her for denying her vietnamese root .
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Status: offline There is an article I found on the web that mentions PBN in a sort of negative way.
THE COLORS of designer Chloe Dao's latest runway collection—hot pink, electric blue and metallic gold—are slightly reminiscent of Paris by Night, the hugely popular Vietnamese-American DVD series filled with heartfelt yet cheesy musical numbers and flamboyant, jewel-toned costumes and sets. While Dao, who visits the San Jose Museum of Quilts and Textiles this week, is familiar with the program ("My mom makes me watch [it]"), she is adamant that the show had nothing to do with her designs. "If anything," she says, "there's an Indian [South Asian] influence rather than Chinese or Vietnamese. I love Indian colors."
No matter what the source, this audacious color in combination with spare, sinuous lines gives Dao's collection its innovative edge. Her clothing, like the designer herself, brings an earnest optimism and charm not often seen on the runway. Far from the arrogance and affectation of other fashionistas, Dao's demeanor is casual, friendly and upbeat. The sixth of eight sisters, Dao describes her Houston upbringing as all-American: "I played tennis and was president of the Latin club," she recalls. Over the past 13 years, she has honed her skills in multiple facets of the fashion industry, culminating in the opening of her own Houston boutique, Lot 8. "I've always been a go-getter. You don't have to ask me to do anything. I'll get it done before you ask."
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Her latest achievement is her most high-profile yet: In March, she was named the winner of the Bravo reality series Project Runway, besting 15 other designers in what amounted to a marathon of cutting, sewing and trash talk. Dao tackled the show's many surprises and over-the-top personalities with a mature design sensibility and pluck. Now she's applying that same focus to what hopes to be a bright future. When asked how her life has changed since the Runway win, Dao says, "Everything is crazier—and more important." She knows that she is now performing on a much bigger stage, where her decisions will have greater impact. Yet, ever practical, she's taking her time to develop a strategy, and insists on doing it her way. "I'd like to quietly conquer the world," she asserts.
For the time being however, "quiet" is not on the agenda. Dao now spends much of her time on a busy schedule of press interviews and public appearances. On April 22, she will attend the VIP reception for "Ao Dai: A Modern Design Coming of Age" at the San Jose Museum of Quilts and Textiles. "I'm doing it for my mom," she says of the exhibit of traditional and contemporary Vietnamese dresses. "It will be cool for her." Fame has also brought opportunity. She is doing more couture work and developing a line of upscale eveningwear for Lot 8. "It's a new thing for me to be designing $2,000 evening dresses," she said, "because I don't shop at that price point. I buy $200 dresses." She has also been talking to some potential investors and is looking to expand her staff beyond the family circle of mom, aunt and sisters that has helped her build the business so far.
Dao seems to be taking the new attention in stride. The innate practicality and "go-getter" personality that served her well in competition are now helping to keep things in perspective. In a world so often ruled by lies and spin, it's refreshing to see hard work and perseverance pay off. For once, alongside its routine parade of freaks and egomaniacs, reality TV has made a star out of someone real.
Chloe Dao appears April 22, 7-9pm, at the VIP reception for 'Ao Dai: A Modern Design Coming of Age' at the San Jose Museum of Quilts of Textiles, 520 S. First St, San Jose. Tickets are $50. (408.971.0323 x14). She will also appear on April 23, 2-4pm, for the opening reception. (www.vietarts.org)
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RE: Chloe Dao's comment on PBN - 12/11/2006 6:47:37 PM
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Status: offline yea, i didn't like the grl the first miinute she came on for the interview. it was soooo obvious she could speak vietnamese really well. but then she was all like " im too embarrassed. let me speak in english." that was wen i new i did not like her.
and now she goes and says she does all these vietnamese-related shows "for her mom" and not on her own free will is just really horrible to say. this grl should keep in touch with her vietnamese roots but apparently she is "too embarrassed". i just get mad talking about ppl like her.
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Status: offline she's talented and I love her work but I was shocked at her comment. I mean I believe no matter how big or small you are you should still stick with your roots or at least feel proud. Hey if she was willing to prance around in an ugly ice figure dress on the show, she'd be willing to show off her culture.
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Status: offline I guess to the author, Viet music is "Cheesy"... we ain't American, we don't have cheese, how could our music be cheesy? And too bad Chloe is not very proud of her Viet heritage... whatever.
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Status: offline yeah, my family was like WHAT??? she can't speak Vietnamese? BAD excuse she sure know Vietnamese, she wasn't born in the States, SO stop pretending
Even Roni speaks Vietnamese, she should be ashame of herself
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Status: online who the he*ll wrote that article_calling pbn video cheesy_must be put to jail. this person must be a da*mn ignorant who knows nothing but american culture. shame on you!
talking about the language issue, im not sure whether to criticize cloe dao or not because i find myself in her situation. im more comfortable speaking english outside of my house and i guess most young viet are the same. however i have to set one fact straight, i always proud to be viet.
on the other hand, i was upset seeing chan luu spoke in english. common! she came here when she was almost 20. she has no excuse for speaking english. american culture is popular but by no means it is the best. there is no need to let go of who you really are by embracing this culture.
i love roni trong, young viet people should look up to him as a role model. he was born in finland and his viet is so fluent. i think that has to do with his parents for being so dedicated in educating him. i honestly believe that parents are the key ingredient in term of educating their children.
finally, i think i should give a lot of credits to these designers for making pbn a spetacular and interesting show. with that said, i dont feel like this language issue should overshadow their contributions to the success of the show. cloe dao totally deserves the crown of project runway. her designs are so beautiful....very elegant and yet glamourous. ky duyen should have worn one of her gowns.
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who the he*ll wrote that article_calling pbn video cheesy_must be put to jail. this person must be a da*mn ignorant who knows nothing but american culture. shame on you!
talking about the language issue, im not sure whether to criticize cloe dao or not because i find myself in her situation. im more comfortable speaking english outside of my house and i guess most young viet are the same. however i have to set one fact straight, i always proud to be viet.
on the other hand, i was upset seeing chan luu spoke in english. common! she came here when she was almost 20. she has no excuse for speaking english. american culture is popular but by no means it is the best. there is no need to let go of who you really are by embracing this culture.
i love roni trong, young viet people should look up to him as a role model. he was born in finland and his viet is so fluent. i think that has to do with his parents for being so dedicated in educating him. i honestly believe that parents are the key ingredient in term of educating their children.
finally, i think i should give a lot of credits to these designers for making pbn a spetacular and interesting show. with that said, i dont feel like this language issue should overshadow their contributions to the success of the show. cloe dao totally deserves the crown of project runway. her designs are so beautiful....very elegant and yet glamourous. ky duyen should have worn one of her gowns.
Well said, congacon. Thank you.
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THE COLORS of designer Chloe Dao's latest runway collection—hot pink, electric blue and metallic gold—are slightly reminiscent of Paris by Night, the hugely popular Vietnamese-American DVD series filled with heartfelt yet cheesy musical numbers and flamboyant, jewel-toned costumes and sets. While Dao, who visits the San Jose Museum of Quilts and Textiles this week, is familiar with the program ("My mom makes me watch [it]"), she is adamant that the show had nothing to do with her designs. "If anything," she says, "there's an Indian [South Asian] influence rather than Chinese or Vietnamese. I love Indian colors."
No matter what the source, this audacious color in combination with spare, sinuous lines gives Dao's collection its innovative edge. Her clothing, like the designer herself, brings an earnest optimism and charm not often seen on the runway. Far from the arrogance and affectation of other fashionistas, Dao's demeanor is casual, friendly and upbeat. The sixth of eight sisters, Dao describes her Houston upbringing as all-American: "I played tennis and was president of the Latin club," she recalls. Over the past 13 years, she has honed her skills in multiple facets of the fashion industry, culminating in the opening of her own Houston boutique, Lot 8. "I've always been a go-getter. You don't have to ask me to do anything. I'll get it done before you ask."
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Her latest achievement is her most high-profile yet: In March, she was named the winner of the Bravo reality series Project Runway, besting 15 other designers in what amounted to a marathon of cutting, sewing and trash talk. Dao tackled the show's many surprises and over-the-top personalities with a mature design sensibility and pluck. Now she's applying that same focus to what hopes to be a bright future. When asked how her life has changed since the Runway win, Dao says, "Everything is crazier—and more important." She knows that she is now performing on a much bigger stage, where her decisions will have greater impact. Yet, ever practical, she's taking her time to develop a strategy, and insists on doing it her way. "I'd like to quietly conquer the world," she asserts.
For the time being however, "quiet" is not on the agenda. Dao now spends much of her time on a busy schedule of press interviews and public appearances. On April 22, she will attend the VIP reception for "Ao Dai: A Modern Design Coming of Age" at the San Jose Museum of Quilts and Textiles. "I'm doing it for my mom," she says of the exhibit of traditional and contemporary Vietnamese dresses. "It will be cool for her." Fame has also brought opportunity. She is doing more couture work and developing a line of upscale eveningwear for Lot 8. "It's a new thing for me to be designing $2,000 evening dresses," she said, "because I don't shop at that price point. I buy $200 dresses." She has also been talking to some potential investors and is looking to expand her staff beyond the family circle of mom, aunt and sisters that has helped her build the business so far.
Dao seems to be taking the new attention in stride. The innate practicality and "go-getter" personality that served her well in competition are now helping to keep things in perspective. In a world so often ruled by lies and spin, it's refreshing to see hard work and perseverance pay off. For once, alongside its routine parade of freaks and egomaniacs, reality TV has made a star out of someone real.
Chloe Dao appears April 22, 7-9pm, at the VIP reception for 'Ao Dai: A Modern Design Coming of Age' at the San Jose Museum of Quilts of Textiles, 520 S. First St, San Jose. Tickets are $50. (408.971.0323 x14). She will also appear on April 23, 2-4pm, for the opening reception. (www.vietarts.org)
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and now she goes and says she does all these vietnamese-related shows "for her mom" and not on her own free will is just really horrible to say. this grl should keep in touch with her vietnamese roots but apparently she is "too embarrassed". i just get mad talking about ppl like her.
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talking about the language issue, im not sure whether to criticize cloe dao or not because i find myself in her situation. im more comfortable speaking english outside of my house and i guess most young viet are the same. however i have to set one fact straight, i always proud to be viet.
on the other hand, i was upset seeing chan luu spoke in english. common! she came here when she was almost 20. she has no excuse for speaking english. american culture is popular but by no means it is the best. there is no need to let go of who you really are by embracing this culture.
i love roni trong, young viet people should look up to him as a role model. he was born in finland and his viet is so fluent. i think that has to do with his parents for being so dedicated in educating him. i honestly believe that parents are the key ingredient in term of educating their children.
finally, i think i should give a lot of credits to these designers for making pbn a spetacular and interesting show. with that said, i dont feel like this language issue should overshadow their contributions to the success of the show. cloe dao totally deserves the crown of project runway. her designs are so beautiful....very elegant and yet glamourous. ky duyen should have worn one of her gowns.
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who the he*ll wrote that article_calling pbn video cheesy_must be put to jail. this person must be a da*mn ignorant who knows nothing but american culture. shame on you!
talking about the language issue, im not sure whether to criticize cloe dao or not because i find myself in her situation. im more comfortable speaking english outside of my house and i guess most young viet are the same. however i have to set one fact straight, i always proud to be viet.
on the other hand, i was upset seeing chan luu spoke in english. common! she came here when she was almost 20. she has no excuse for speaking english. american culture is popular but by no means it is the best. there is no need to let go of who you really are by embracing this culture.
i love roni trong, young viet people should look up to him as a role model. he was born in finland and his viet is so fluent. i think that has to do with his parents for being so dedicated in educating him. i honestly believe that parents are the key ingredient in term of educating their children.
finally, i think i should give a lot of credits to these designers for making pbn a spetacular and interesting show. with that said, i dont feel like this language issue should overshadow their contributions to the success of the show. cloe dao totally deserves the crown of project runway. her designs are so beautiful....very elegant and yet glamourous. ky duyen should have worn one of her gowns.
Well said, congacon. Thank you.
i wonder how the viet-lao's feel about her.
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She Viet by decent but raised in Laos and probably her parents were raised in Laos too? So how can anyone's Language be perfect when your family speaks more laotian then Viet? o_O. Man... All the Viet ppl need to chill out on that forum lol.
She Viet by decent but raised in Laos and probably her parents were raised in Laos too? So how can anyone's Language be perfect when your family speaks more laotian then Viet? o_O. Man... All the Viet ppl need to chill out on that forum lol.
Her Project Runway bio states, "Chloe Dao, a Vietnamese born in Pakse, Laos, is living the American dream. Born the sixth child of eight girls in her family, she emigrated to the U.S. with her family in 1979 and settled in Houston, Texas."
Although, I remember watching a fashion show where she stated something on the lines of being Laotian?
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Although, I remember watching a fashion show where she stated something on the lines of being Laotian?
http://www.bravotv.com/Project_Runway_2/Bi...Chloe/bio.shtml
Probably cause they grew up in laos speaking mostly Laotian. Yeah I've heard her say she's Lao too. but she is viet Lao if you wanna call it that. like How we're Lao - American. or atleast I am o_o
from what I've read her family speaks more Laotian at home then viet. So that's why she probably leans more towards Lao and maybe one of her parent is half Lao/Viet too. Cause they say her mom speaks Laotian more.
i was reading the other forum.. man those viets on there were mean. saying she not showing pride cause she wont speak Viet. I wonder if they ever stop to think that she's not purely Viet cause she was raised on laos, spoke laotian as did most of her family before moving to USA. And that her Viet isnt good enough to make complex sentences? or that She might have just been way more comfortable speaking English. -sighs- ppl need to do research before they diss someone lol
from what I've read her family speaks more Laotian at home then viet. So that's why she probably leans more towards Lao and maybe one of her parent is half Lao/Viet too. Cause they say her mom speaks Laotian more.
i was reading the other forum.. man those viets on there were mean. saying she not showing pride cause she wont speak Viet. I wonder if they ever stop to think that she's not purely Viet cause she was raised on laos, spoke laotian as did most of her family before moving to USA. And that her Viet isnt good enough to make complex sentences? or that She might have just been way more comfortable speaking English. -sighs- ppl need to do research before they diss someone lol
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Probably cause they grew up in laos speaking mostly Laotian. Yeah I've heard her say she's Lao too. but she is viet Lao if you wanna call it that. like How we're Lao - American. or atleast I am o_o
from what I've read her family speaks more Laotian at home then viet. So that's why she probably leans more towards Lao and maybe one of her parent is half Lao/Viet too. Cause they say her mom speaks Laotian more.
i was reading the other forum.. man those viets on there were mean. saying she not showing pride cause she wont speak Viet. I wonder if they ever stop to think that she's not purely Viet cause she was raised on laos, spoke laotian as did most of her family before moving to USA. And that her Viet isnt good enough to make complex sentences? or that She might have just been way more comfortable speaking English. -sighs- ppl need to do research before they diss someone lol
i see...
yah that's pretty messed up. some ppl just dont take in other considerations.
ur gonna find messed ppl everywhere though... nothing new.
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Probably cause they grew up in laos speaking mostly Laotian. Yeah I've heard her say she's Lao too. but she is viet Lao if you wanna call it that. like How we're Lao - American. or atleast I am o_o
from what I've read her family speaks more Laotian at home then viet. So that's why she probably leans more towards Lao and maybe one of her parent is half Lao/Viet too. Cause they say her mom speaks Laotian more.
i was reading the other forum.. man those viets on there were mean. saying she not showing pride cause she wont speak Viet. I wonder if they ever stop to think that she's not purely Viet cause she was raised on laos, spoke laotian as did most of her family before moving to USA. And that her Viet isnt good enough to make complex sentences? or that She might have just been way more comfortable speaking English. -sighs- ppl need to do research before they diss someone lol
she spoke viet fine on the show
she spoke both viet and english. ppl were just complaining that shed rather speak english more. chloe also appeared at an ao dai (traditional vietnamese costume) museum exhibition in san jose. she's done several things in the viet community, people online just tend to b!tch and moan a lot.
ive never heard that her family was laotian at all, however from the interview of her mom on the show it was clear they're vietnamese.
chloe also talks in another interview about how her mom forced her to watch pbn growing up (a viet variety show that EVERY viet person knows
) which she later appeared on and did a fashion show for. <--the majority of viets who complain about her online are complaining from her appearance on that show. if anything there was never a question that by mentality she's more lao than viet ..but ppl are complaining that she's whitewashed. which is a bit true..for a woman of her age. but her business caters mostly to whites so what can u expect. she's done enough things repping for the viet community tho.
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