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purnomor
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E Timor 'poor and getting poorer'

East Timor remains the poorest country in South East Asia nearly four years after independence, the UN says - and it is getting poorer.

The UNDP report says there are few employment prospects in East Timor in anything other than agriculture.

About 40% of the population live below the poverty line and education and health care remain patchy.

East Timor was ruled by Indonesia for nearly 24 years before a United Nations-sponsored referendum in 1999.

Some 90 babies in 1,000 do not live to see their first birthday and few are immunised, according to the UN report.

Half of the population of less than one million has no access to safe drinking water, and job opportunities are few.

One major factor which could change things is the signing last January of an oil-sharing agreement with Australia, says the BBC's Developing World correspondent David Loyn.

Disputes between the two countries had soured relations in recent years, but now East Timor should be able to benefit from oil revenues.

The UNDP report says it is crucial that these funds go towards alleviating rural poverty - the first major boost to the economy since the bitter war with Indonesia.

The UN administered East Timor for two years before it gained independence in 2002. UN peacekeeping missions remained in the former Portuguese colony until last May when their post-war mandate ran out.

Their withdrawal had a big effect on jobs in the capital, Dili.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4788316.stm



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Destitution in the world's youngest country
Mar 9th 2006
From The Economist print edition

LIFE has only become more wretched for the 1m inhabitants of Timor-Leste (formerly East Timor) since it achieved full independence from Indonesia in 2002. The country was born the poorest in South-East Asia: and its economy has shrivelled further as the United Nations' peacekeeping operations have wound down, reducing demand for everything from hotel rooms to transport. It is set to shrink yet further after the mandate of UNOTIL, the UN office in the country, expires in May.

The pity is that the country can afford to do much better. A report published this week by the UN Development Programme shows that revenues from offshore oil and gas fields could reduce poverty dramatically—if the government spent the revenue wisely.

The UNDP sets the poverty line for Timor-Leste at 55 American cents a day. Around 40% of the population has less than this, so hunger is widespread. Only half of rural households have drinking-water on tap, and only a tenth have electricity. With health clinics few and far between, almost one in ten babies die before their first birthday.

Timor-Leste's population is small, at about 1m people. So relieving the worst of the poverty should, in theory, be cheap. The UNDP calculates that it would cost $18m a year for everyone below the 55-cent poverty line to be brought up to it. Even achieving the UN's Millennium Goals for relieving want (including better education and health) by 2015 would cost Timor-Leste $203m a year at most. This, too, should be affordable given the aid on offer and the growing oil and gas income. The country receives energy revenues of around $158m a year, and their sustainability has been underpinned by a recent deal with Australia to divide the proceeds from a big gas field in the sea between the two countries.

However, the government has so far spent most of its money in Dili, the capital. Only about a fifth of state-provided goods and services go to rural areas, where most people live and where poverty is concentrated. People in the rural areas urgently need micro-credit and training to improve and diversify their crops, as well as better sanitation and roads. Unless this changes, the Timorese will remain, as the UNDP puts it, politically free but chained by poverty.



READ THE COMPLETE UNDP REPORT ON EAST TIMOR
furansizuka
That's so sad bawling.gif I happened to watch the doumentary movie about the poor condition in Timor Leste and I cried along its 30 minutes. And the families who had to split between indonesia and timor leste, they just can see each other 1 hour a week at borderline and they cried and cried in the occassion, they can't even cross the line to give closer hugs bawling.gif bawling.gif
ham_let
yea, it's really really hard for new countries... hopefully conditions improve in the future. the rest of the world ignores the problems of east timor, too. icon_confused.gif

a good thing, however, is that since east timor is a tiny country, it'll be easier to improve the infrastructure.
IniTiaL V.
no one wants to help east timor? just rob them of their resources
furansizuka
QUOTE(IniTiaL V. @ Mar 10 2006, 08:48 PM) *

no one wants to help east timor?

Australia, maybe? no?
ham_let
well i'd think portugal or brazil or something.. icon_confused.gif
furansizuka
naah..they just love watching from a far far away.
Actualight
QUOTE(ham_let @ Mar 11 2006, 09:53 AM) *

well i'd think portugal or brazil or something.. icon_confused.gif


The Portugese were there for 450 years. They didn't do anything. Did they?
Indonesian did much more!
Why Bazil would help; Because they speak Portuguse, too?
I don't think so.
Don't know, how much Xanana' salary is? Anyone has any idea?
Do you, Furan?

purnomor
Mass mutiny hits E Timor army
Mark Dodd
February 27, 2006


MORE than 400 mutinous East Timorese soldiers -- a quarter of the country's army -- will be dismissed for deserting after protesting over poor conditions and selective promotions.

The mass sacking is a great blow to the strength of East Timor's fledgling defence force and poses a potential security risk.

At large is a volatile, undisciplined group with military training who were previously seasoned guerilla fighters against the Indonesian occupiers.

Their dismissal is also an embarrassment for Canberra because most of the rebel troops received training from the Australian Defence Force as part of the Howard Government's $26million defence co-operation program with East Timor.


Defence Minister Brendan Nelson last night declined to comment, with a spokesman saying the minister needed more information.

But a Defence Department spokesman told The Australian: "The situation has disrupted Australia's training and infrastructure development activities at Metinaro base (west of the capital Dili).

"We have moved ADF advisers normally based at the Metinaro facility to Dili, until the situation is further resolved."

East Timor Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri has threatened further punishment for the mutineers, including civil and military justice.

Dr Alkatiri said many were former resistance fighters "not used to the discipline of a regular military force".

Most of the 400 are former Falintil guerilla veterans of the bloody 24-year struggle for independence against Indonesia.

Ambiguity remained yesterday over the timing of the dismissals. According to one senior Western military source, the rebel troops had been given until tomorrow to end their "strike", while other reports suggested the sackings had already occurred.

East Timor's army commander, Brigadier-General Taur Matan Ruak, was quoted in one of Dili's mainstream newspapers, Suara Timor Lefte, as having "thanked" the rebels for their service and considered them dismissed for refusing to meet a deadline to return to base.

The standoff began on February 8 when the soldiers deserted their barracks and arrived in Dili to present a petition to their commander-in-chief, President Xanana Gusmao, asking for their complaints to be investigated.

Mr Gusmao accepted the petition and ordered the troops to return to base. The order was refused despite the rebels winning a government inquiry into their grievances.


East Timor human rights group Yayasan-HAK said the army lacked a "transparent" code of military conduct, and disciplinary problems within the ranks of the 1500-strong force were increasingly widespread.

"We found there was no regulation or disciplinary code and no regulations concerning promotion," Yayasan-HAK spokesman Jose Oliveira said.

The ADF has played a key role in training the F-FDTL.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/commo...5E31477,00.html
Kopassus
QUOTE(purnomor @ Mar 11 2006, 10:16 AM) *

Mass mutiny hits E Timor army
Mark Dodd
February 27, 2006
MORE than 400 mutinous East Timorese soldiers -- a quarter of the country's army -- will be dismissed for deserting after protesting over poor conditions and selective promotions.

The mass sacking is a great blow to the strength of East Timor's fledgling defence force and poses a potential security risk.

At large is a volatile, undisciplined group with military training who were previously seasoned guerilla fighters against the Indonesian occupiers.

Their dismissal is also an embarrassment for Canberra because most of the rebel troops received training from the Australian Defence Force as part of the Howard Government's $26million defence co-operation program with East Timor.


Defence Minister Brendan Nelson last night declined to comment, with a spokesman saying the minister needed more information.

But a Defence Department spokesman told The Australian: "The situation has disrupted Australia's training and infrastructure development activities at Metinaro base (west of the capital Dili).

"We have moved ADF advisers normally based at the Metinaro facility to Dili, until the situation is further resolved."

East Timor Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri has threatened further punishment for the mutineers, including civil and military justice.

Dr Alkatiri said many were former resistance fighters "not used to the discipline of a regular military force".

Most of the 400 are former Falintil guerilla veterans of the bloody 24-year struggle for independence against Indonesia.

Ambiguity remained yesterday over the timing of the dismissals. According to one senior Western military source, the rebel troops had been given until tomorrow to end their "strike", while other reports suggested the sackings had already occurred.

East Timor's army commander, Brigadier-General Taur Matan Ruak, was quoted in one of Dili's mainstream newspapers, Suara Timor Lefte, as having "thanked" the rebels for their service and considered them dismissed for refusing to meet a deadline to return to base.

The standoff began on February 8 when the soldiers deserted their barracks and arrived in Dili to present a petition to their commander-in-chief, President Xanana Gusmao, asking for their complaints to be investigated.

Mr Gusmao accepted the petition and ordered the troops to return to base. The order was refused despite the rebels winning a government inquiry into their grievances.


East Timor human rights group Yayasan-HAK said the army lacked a "transparent" code of military conduct, and disciplinary problems within the ranks of the 1500-strong force were increasingly widespread.

"We found there was no regulation or disciplinary code and no regulations concerning promotion," Yayasan-HAK spokesman Jose Oliveira said.

The ADF has played a key role in training the F-FDTL.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/commo...5E31477,00.html

Lachwekkend...
$26.000.000 to train formal terrorists....
GluTTony
do you think East Timor is better if they go back being Indonesia?
lackor
i thought east timor is rich. is corruption to blame ?
Sirikittong
A large reason why Thailand MUST not concede the south. East Timor is a lesson to be learned.

purnomor
East Timor dismisses nearly half its army

JAKARTA, March 17 (UPI) -- East Timor has fired more than a third of its army after troops walked off the job in protest of poor working conditions and low chances for advancement.

Despite a proposed inquiry into the matter by President Xanana Gusmao, hundreds of troops refused to end a month-long impasse with the government in which they demanded a halt to "nepotism and injustice" in the military, reports the BBC.

The loss of almost 600 soldiers will have a significant impact on the 1,400-strong army, which was established following East Timor's independence from Indonesia in 1999.

Soldiers claim they have not been fairly compensated for services rendered to their country, one of the world's smallest independent states.

A recent U.N. development report touted a number of socio-economic advancements, but East Timor remains the poorest country in the region with a 40 percent poverty rate and a shortage of skilled workers that led to an influx of foreign employees.

http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligen...17-022851-8703r
Nusantara
QUOTE(GluTTony @ Mar 11 2006, 07:25 PM) *

do you think East Timor is better if they go back being Indonesia?


East Timor during one of the province in Indonesia was just sucking Indonesia budget to elevate and build many school, hospital, road etc for them to make them the same position like others Indonesia. Because previous colonial Portugal left nothing for them.
Indonesia much better without East Timor, so we can concentrate to move forward the country.
purnomor
Indonesians leaving East Timor after riot

KUPANG, East Nusa Tenggara (Antara): Indonesians working and residing in the Timor Lest capital Dili have started to leave the city following a riot by deserters from the East Timor armed forces, an Indonesian Military officer said Wednesday.

"There were about 30 Indonesians who fled Dili and entered East Nusa Tenggara province Tuesday afternoon following the riot," said the commander of the Wirasakti Regional Military Command, Col. APJ Noch Bola.

"There are about 300 fully armed deserters running riot in Dili and another 300 deserters are consolidating in the forests in East Timor," he added, quoting reports.

The riot started March 25 when the deserters weredecommissioned by East Timor armed forces commander Brig. Gen. Taur Matan Ruak.

The deserters -- more than one-third of the country's soldiers -- went on strike Feb. 8 complaining about poor living conditions and selective promotion.

The rioters ransacked the residence of the East Timor police deputy chief, which is located near the Indonesian Embassy in Dili. They also pillaged houses in several towns.

Bola urged all Indonesians still in East Timor to immediately leave the former Indonesian province.

"The possibility of a civil war is there in East Timor after the UN ends its mission there on May 20. The deserters brought with them their weapons," he said.

"Not even their commander and President Xanana Gusmao are able to stop them."

Indonesia annexed East Timor in 1976 after its colonial master, Portugal, pulled out in 1975.

The annexation got tacit approval from Western countries, especially the United States and Australia, fearing a communist domino effect following the American defeat in Vietnam.

During Indonesia's rule, the deserters belonged to Gusmao's left-leaning Fretilin resistance group. (***)

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http://www.thejakartapost.com/detaillgen.a...29150435&irec=6[/url]



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Call for calm in East Timor after riot in capital
Posted at 6:16am on 27 Mar 2006

East Timor's Prime Minister, Mari Alkatiri, called for calm a day after former soldiers rampaged through the capital looting shops and pelting opponents with stones.

Mr Alkatiri's appeal followed a night of violence on Sunday blamed on soldiers sacked last week.

Timor Leste last week dismissed 591 soldiers, more than a third of the country's regular armed forces, who had deserted over unaddressed grievances.

Residents in Dili reported shops had been looted and opposing groups of soldiers had fought pitched battles.

However, details on the unrest are sketchy with government officials refusing to comment.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/latest/200603270616/2726d9cb
tangawizi
QUOTE(Nusantara @ Mar 24 2006, 07:19 AM) *

East Timor during one of the province in Indonesia was just sucking Indonesia budget to elevate and build many school, hospital, road etc for them to make them the same position like others Indonesia. Because previous colonial Portugal left nothing for them.

Indonesia much better without East Timor, so we can concentrate to move forward the country.


It seems true that Indonesia had allocated more development funds at the rate of six times the national average during the period of occupation since 1975.

But wasn't it also true that when the occupying Indonesian forces left in 1999, they systematically destroyed or seriously damaged about 85% of the country's infrastructure, which included the hospitals, power stations, schools, offices, houses, market places, water systems, the port and property such as cars? What was the thinking behind all that whole scale destruction? Isn't the same as the Portuguese which left nothing for them?

With a country like East Timor living off subsistence farming and UNDP aid, this country is poised to become another Sierra Leone or Angola. I can't help but feel that the rich offshore oil deposits (black gold) is East Timor's curse. icon_sad.gif

QUOTE(Sirikittong @ Mar 14 2006, 09:15 PM) *

A large reason why Thailand MUST not concede the south. East Timor is a lesson to be learned.


Wah? Has rich oil deposits been similarly found in southern Thailand? What's there to fight over?
purnomor
Eighteen foreign nationals flee East Timor to Indonesia

Kupang, E Nusa Tenggara (ANTARA News) - Eighteen foreign nationals who resided in East Timor fled to the eastern Indonesian province of East Nusa Tenggara late on Thursday as the political and security situation in the former Portuguese colony worsened.

"Around 18 foreign nationals crossed the East Nusa Tenggara border from Dili, capital of East Timor, late on Thursday and the Indonesian immigration authorities in the border area are processing (their applications for stay permit)," chief of the 161/Wirasakti district military command Col. ARJ Noch Bola told ANTARA by phone on Friday.

The foreign nationals came from the United States, Portugal, Australia, the Philippines, China and South Korea.

He said around 54 Indonesian nationals who earned livehood in Dili also had fled East Timor to the border area.


The political and security situation in East Timor had been worsening over the past few weeks after Commander of the East Timor Defence Force (FDTL) Brig. Gen. Taur Matan Ruak sacked 600 of his men.

Some 300 armed FDTL personnel who had been declared deserters continued to make trouble in the East Timorese capital, raising fears among foreign nationals living in the territory.

The other 300 deserters are reportedly consolidating their efforts in the forests to strengthen their struggle after being dishonorably discharged by the FDTL commander.

Reports had it that the dishonorable discharge was part of "big engineering" to create political and security instability in East Timor in a bid to maintain the presence of UN officers assigned in the country.

The UN officers were expected to conclude their tasks in East Timor on May 20. But given the latest developments they may stay longer in East Timor.(*)

http://www.antara.co.id/en/seenws/?id=10777
e_vaholic
poor timor-timur...

now many timorese come to indonesia through the border..
GluTTony
the Boder is a Simple River rite? they should make it to a High Fence to Teach Tim-tim:
"ini Akibatnya kalo pisah dari NKRI"
purnomor
Polisi Timor Leste Tahan Seratusan Warga yang akan Menyeberang ke Indonesia

Penulis: Palce Amalo
KUPANG--MIOL: Polisi Nasional Timor Leste dari Unit Patroli Perbatasan (Police Border Unit) dilaporkan menahan lebih dari 100 warga sipil Timor Leste di pos penyeberangan Batugade di distrik Bobonaro sejak Kamis (30/3) malam.

Warga yang ditahan tersebut tidak memiliki paspor dan identitas resmi, tetapi ingin menyeberang ke wilayah RI. Pos Batugade berbatasan dengan pos penyeberangan Mota Ain di kecamatan Kakuluk Mesak, Kabupaten Belu, Nusa Tenggara Timur (NTT).

Ratusan warga tersebut tiba di pos Batugade sekitar pukul 16.00 Waktu Timor Leste (pukul 17.00 Wita) untuk menyeberang ke wilayah Indonesia.

"Hanya pelintas batas yang memiliki paspor dan dokumen keimigrasian yang boleh menyeberang ke Indonesia, selain itu dilarang," kata Komandan Korem 161/Wirasakti Kupang, Kolonel Airwin Pius Johan Noch Bola kepada wartawan di Kupang, Jumat (31/3).

Menurut Kolonel Airwin, dari dua pintu penyeberangan resmi di perbatasan RI-Timor Leste, pintu penyeberangan Mota Ain paling banyak dilalui pelintas batas pascamemanasnya situasi keamanan di Timor Leste. Sedangkan pintu penyeberangan Motamasin di Kecamatan Kobalima, sepi.

Pos penyeberangan Kobalima berbatasan dengan pos penyeberangan Salele di distrik Kovalima, Timor Leste. Pintu penyeberangan ini berada di Belu bagian selatan. Mota Ain berada di Belu bagian utara.

Kolonel Airwin menolak menjelaskan lebih jauh tentang keberadaan warga sipil yang dicegah memasuki wilayah RI tersebut. Tetapi pihak Imigrasi, aparat TNI dan Polisi tidak akan membiarkan warga asing memasuki wilayah Indonesia tanpa identitas.

"Situasi perbatasan RI-Timor Leste masih kondusif dan anggota TNI masih siaga satu," katanya.

Selain itu, sebanyak 18 pekerja dari berbagai kantor kedutaan besar asing di Timor Leste yang menyeberang ke wilayah RI, Kamis, masih ditangani kantor Imigrasi Atambua.

Situasi keamanan dan politik di Timor Leste memburuk dalam dua pekan terakhir, setelah pemecatan 600 anggota Angkatan Perang Timor Timur (FDTL) oleh Panglima FDTL Brigjen Taur Matan Ruak. Dilaporkan sebanyak 300 dari jumlah tentara yang dipecat itu lari ke hutan untuk menyusun kekuatan. Sebanyak 300 orang lainnya masih berada di Kota Dili membawa senjata lengkap. (PO/OL-02).

Namfes
Btw, if their offshore oils' wells earn more than US$ 200 M a year and last for 100 years, I guess within 50 years, Timor Leste will be as rish as Singapore or even more. Is it possible or just a day-dream?
swingdoctor
QUOTE(Namfes @ Apr 9 2006, 09:15 PM) *

Btw, if their offshore oils' wells earn more than US$ 200 M a year and last for 100 years, I guess within 50 years, Timor Leste will be as rish as Singapore or even more. Is it possible or just a day-dream?

Maybe another Brunei perhaps? No taxes.
Too much money too quickly can also be bad.
han2
QUOTE(furansizuka @ Mar 10 2006, 08:51 PM) *

Australia, maybe? no?


If East Timor had no resource to speak of (like Rwanda for example), no country would care to "liberate" , or "save" her and her people in the first place, but since the Timor Gap is rich in Natural Gas, then a pretext is needed to secure this important resource. icon_wink.gif
purnomor
QUOTE(han2 @ Apr 10 2006, 03:21 AM) *

If East Timor had no resource to speak of (like Rwanda for example), no country would care to "liberate" , or "save" her and her people in the first place, but since the Timor Gap is rich in Natural Gas, then a pretext is needed to secure this important resource. icon_wink.gif


Timor Gap oil reserve is minisucle by regional standards. Indonesia and Australia's interest on East Timor was mostly to prevent the creation of possible communist state under a Marxist party Fretilin during Cold War. Habibie decided to expel East Timor (in his words, "peeble in our shoes") from Indonesia in 1999 as it was a sinkhole of govt subsidies while Indonesia was having financial crisis.

Timor Gap was given by Indonesia to Australia in 1989 as a kind of "bribe" in exchange for Australian recognition of Indonesian sovereignity over East Timor. After East Timor became independent in 1999, the new govt refused to acknowledge Australian rule over Timor Gap. However, Australia was not going to give any oil reserve to East Timor, so they successfully bullied East Timor into acknowledging Australian rule over the seabed area given by Indonesian in 1989.
Kopassus
QUOTE(purnomor @ Apr 11 2006, 04:19 AM) *

Timor Gap oil reserve is minisucle by regional standards. Indonesia and Australia's interest on East Timor was mostly to prevent the creation of possible communist state under a Marxist party Fretilin during Cold War. Habibie decided to expel East Timor (in his words, "peeble in our shoes") from Indonesia in 1999 as it was a sinkhole of govt subsidies while Indonesia was having financial crisis.

Timor Gap was given by Indonesia to Australia in 1989 as a kind of "bribe" in exchange for Australian recognition of Indonesian sovereignity over East Timor. After East Timor became independent in 1999, the new govt refused to acknowledge Australian rule over Timor Gap. However, Australia was not going to give any oil reserve to East Timor, so they successfully bullied East Timor into acknowledging Australian rule over the seabed area given by Indonesian in 1989.

Ini salah satu buktinya bahwa pemerinta Australia tidak bisa dipercaya.
han2
QUOTE(purnomor @ Apr 11 2006, 04:19 AM) *

Timor Gap oil reserve is minisucle by regional standards. Indonesia and Australia's interest on East Timor was mostly to prevent the creation of possible communist state under a Marxist party Fretilin during Cold War. Habibie decided to expel East Timor (in his words, "peeble in our shoes") from Indonesia in 1999 as it was a sinkhole of govt subsidies while Indonesia was having financial crisis.

Timor Gap was given by Indonesia to Australia in 1989 as a kind of "bribe" in exchange for Australian recognition of Indonesian sovereignity over East Timor. After East Timor became independent in 1999, the new govt refused to acknowledge Australian rule over Timor Gap. However, Australia was not going to give any oil reserve to East Timor, so they successfully bullied East Timor into acknowledging Australian rule over the seabed area given by Indonesian in 1989.


Hmm, very interesting indeed.
Namfes
I think it is too early to judge about the future of Timor Leste. Let us see... perhaps if in 2050 Timor Leste is worse than what is now, we will laugh on them.. if in 2050 ET/TL be a wealthy country, then they will laugh on us bcoz in 2050 i do believe Indonesia is still a poor country.

If in 2050 ET/TL is wealthy, then.. Papua also wants to be independent simply being jealous of rich East Timor who has oils and Papua has gold, silver, etc.

do you ?
purnomor
East Timor: Torture and Mistreatment by Police
20 Apr 2006 01:27:08 GMT


Source: Human Rights Watch

(Dili, April 20, 2006) – The East Timorese government needs to urgently address the problem of police torture and ill-treatment of detainees before it becomes widespread, Human Rights Watch said in a new report released today. Independent and internal accountability mechanisms need to be greatly strengthened to stop a slide into impunity for officials who commit abuses. The 50-page report, "Tortured Beginnings: Police Violence and the Beginnings of Impunity in East Timor," is based on dozens of interviews with witnesses and victims of police abuse in East Timor. It documents excessive force during arrests, torture and ill-treatment of detainees by the National Police of East Timor (PNTL). Several people interviewed had to be hospitalized because of the severity of their injuries.

"We were shocked to find so many credible accounts of torture and severe ill-treatment by police officers," said Brad Adams, Asia director for Human Rights Watch. "East Timor won independence in part because of Indonesia's horrific record here. Now some people are saying that the new police force is no better than the old one, and this should worry the government."

One young man told Human Rights Watch what happened to him when he was arrested in his village, near the town of Maliana:

"I was arrested by the PNTL, and put in a cell for two days and two nights. I was continuously tortured, sprayed with pepper spray, beaten and drenched with water. They constantly threatened me, saying 'if you oppose the police then you will know the consequence.' Three police officers came into the cell, locked the door, took off their jackets, then hit me. They were all Maliana PNTL. They were the night guards, and were wearing PNTL uniforms. On the first night they beat me at around 1:00 a.m., on the second night they beat me around 3:00 a.m. Both nights were different people, but both times they were beating me."

Police and other state institutions in East Timor also regularly fail to respond appropriately to incidents of police abuse. The main internal police oversight body, the Professional Ethics and Deontology Unit (PEDU), often fails to take cases of police abuse seriously, to follow up with complaints, or properly discipline the officers involved. Independent bodies that could take up cases of police abuse are ineffective and lack sufficient material or political support to succeed.

"East Timor's leaders are ignoring police abuse when they should be taking urgent steps to end it," said Adams. "The people of East Timor have the right to expect better treatment from their own police force."

Human Rights Watch called on the East Timorese government to:

1) Ensure through public measures and statements that there is a clear, unambiguous and consistent signal from the top that police use of torture, arbitrary detention, and excessive force will not be tolerated.

2) Take swift and meaningful action against police officers who torture, arbitrarily detain, or use excessive force against the population, including appropriate disciplinary action against commanding officers who know or should know of such acts and who fail to take action to prevent and punish them.

3) Strengthen oversight and disciplinary bodies by providing strong support for their work, penalizing officers who do not comply with their directives.

4) Human Rights Watch also called for international donors to express their concern about police torture to the government of East Timor; substantially increase support for independent monitoring of police violence and for agencies that can provide services for victims; and fund and plan for long-term strategies on capacity-building, training, and other support to the PNTL.

After a 1999 referendum on independence from Indonesia, the United Nations took over the administration of the territory. Indonesia left East Timor impoverished, with few functioning institutions. Establishing a new police force for East Timor was one of the priorities for the United Nations before sovereignty was passed to the new state in May 2002. Successive U.N. missions in East Timor were instructed and authorized to help enable the rapid development of a credible, professional and impartial police service.

Recruitment drives for the new East Timorese police service started in early 2000, and basic training commenced on March 27 that year under the auspices of the United Nations Transitional Administration in East Timor. On August 10, 2001, the East Timor Police Service was officially established alongside U.N. Civilian Police (CivPol), later changing its name to the Timor-Leste Police Service, before finally adopting its current title of the Polícia Nacional de Timor-Leste (PNTL).

It was not until May 20, 2002, Independence Day, that an agreement was signed outlining the terms and timetable for CivPol to hand over full policing duties to the PNTL. The handover of policing duties for the final district, Dili, took place on December 10, 2003, when the PNTL assumed responsibility for general day-to-day policing for the whole country.



QUOTE(Namfes @ Apr 21 2006, 12:45 AM) *

if in 2050 ET/TL be a wealthy country


This scenario is very unlikely since East Timor today is the poorest country in Asia with very low education levels (57% illiteracy rate), while its oil reserve are minisule by regional standards. In any case, Indonesia is better-off without East Timor since we no longer need to subsidise that ex-province and maintain so many soldiers there.

Indonesia is better-off without East Timor, while East Timor is clearly worse-off without Indonesia.
Majapahitans
My sister in-law visited East Timor several month ago.
What she can tell about East Timor is...

Everything is EXPENSIVE.....
Even small bottle of mineral water imported from Indonesia is priced one US dollar (Rp 9000). While we can have 'em in Indonesia is only Rp1.500. Forget the top brands like Aqua, we're talking about lower quality Indonesian bottled water. thumbsdown.gif

Everybody expect TIP from you.....
If you happen to visit East Timor, any service that you received is not free. Everybody expect big tip from you, beside official service price you must pay. If you aren't a good tipper, they'll be RUDE to you. sure.gif

The weather is unbearably HOT....
Most Indonesian female whom valued soft and light skin SHOULD NOT visit East Timor. biggrin.gif The weather is dry and hot. Really unpleasant and surely will burn your skin. sure.gif

For common Indonesian taste, there's really FEW good lookin East Timorese.... icon_twisted.gif
Well, that's my sister in-law opinion. icon_wink.gif
IniTiaL V.
^isn't it hot everywhere in SE asia? hmm, didn't your sister enjoy the trip at all??

anyways, this was bound to happen. thir little nation is growing way to fast and that's why everything over there is inflated.

but i'm sure the east timor growth will come at a more steadier pace, prices will come down, establish tourism over there and become a successful nation as it's other neighbour -cheer
GluTTony
in Singapore there is this ad about East Timor on bus stops. I don't really get it if it was a Tourism Campaign of somting,but it talked about East Timor has not toilet paper and there is no roads. Really weird
purnomor
QUOTE(IniTiaL V. @ Apr 21 2006, 11:27 AM) *

anyways, this was bound to happen. thir little nation is growing way to fast and that's why everything over there is inflated.


Actually East Timor grew by only 1% in 2005. High prices is caused by dollarised economy, which drive-up cost of living beyond the average East Timorese wage. Hence, nearly half of East Timorese people live in poverty.
GluTTony
QUOTE(Namfes @ Apr 21 2006, 01:45 PM) *

I think it is too early to judge about the future of Timor Leste. Let us see... perhaps if in 2050 Timor Leste is worse than what is now, we will laugh on them.. if in 2050 ET/TL be a wealthy country, then they will laugh on us bcoz in 2050 i do believe Indonesia is still a poor country.




- Indonesia is expected to fully recover Economy Crisis in 2008 beerchug.gif

-in 2050 Indonesia will Overtake British's Economy kiss.gif

the News is on the Economic and Business Thread

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...20#entry1604866
tilez
QUOTE(GluTTony @ Apr 22 2006, 12:06 AM) *

- Indonesia is expected to fully recover Economy Crisis in 2008 beerchug.gif

[b]-in 2050 Indonesia will Overtake British's Economy kiss.gif [/b ]

the News is on the Economic and Business Thread

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...20#entry1604866



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Majapahitans
QUOTE(IniTiaL V. @ Apr 21 2006, 11:27 AM) *

^isn't it hot everywhere in SE asia? hmm, didn't your sister enjoy the trip at all??

but i'm sure the east timor growth will come at a more steadier pace, prices will come down, establish tourism over there and become a successful nation as it's other neighbour -cheer


Not all parts of SE Asia is hot.
Some eastern parts of Indonesia, especially East Nusa Tenggara and neighboring East Timor is DRY and HOT, with african savanna type of environment. Jakarta quite mildly cool and cloudy, especially during rainy seasons. Montains area like Bogor, Cianjur, Bandung, Wonosobo, Malang, Bukittinggi, and Tana Toraja are cool places.

Actually she's come to East Timor to do some multinational project on education, envolving Indonesia, USA and of course East Timor.
Not for holiday trip. (I know for holiday, she'll prefer Bali or Bandung rather than East Timor.. icon_wink.gif )
I think of course somehow she's enjoy her trip, but she says that East Timor wasn't her favourite... biggrin.gif

East Timor might be prosperous if there's lots of investments on tourism, legalize gambling and build large cassino...., you know...., become Las Vegas of the East icon_twisted.gif.
Or rented their lands as nuclear test site.... Ewww.... icon_twisted.gif
Or if they allow US to build military base on East Timor.
But then again this is not quite attractive for US. Why did USA need to build military base in East Timor if they have Guam, and have Australia as their "sidekick" in the neighborhood.
Nusantara
QUOTE(Namfes @ Apr 21 2006, 12:45 AM) *

I think it is too early to judge about the future of Timor Leste. Let us see... perhaps if in 2050 Timor Leste is worse than what is now, we will laugh on them.. if in 2050 ET/TL be a wealthy country, then they will laugh on us bcoz in 2050 i do believe Indonesia is still a poor country.

If in 2050 ET/TL is wealthy, then.. Papua also wants to be independent simply being jealous of rich East Timor who has oils and Papua has gold, silver, etc.

do you ?

Indonesia will be consider wealthy country in 2050 just by maintaining 4% economic growth annually, this will be difficult task because the more we improve our income the less room to expand the economic growth. But i am optimis because our education access to citizen improving and more value added economic driven improving such Industrial and technology so we can be less rely on natural resources such as forest, oil&gas and mining automatically we can preserve more conservative in our green nature resource.

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My sister in-law visited East Timor several month ago.
What she can tell about East Timor is...

Everything is EXPENSIVE.....
Even small bottle of mineral water imported from Indonesia is priced one US dollar (Rp 9000). While we can have 'em in Indonesia is only Rp1.500. Forget the top brands like Aqua, we're talking about lower quality Indonesian bottled water. thumbsdown.gif

Everybody expect TIP from you.....
If you happen to visit East Timor, any service that you received is not free. Everybody expect big tip from you, beside official service price you must pay. If you aren't a good tipper, they'll be RUDE to you. sure.gif



it is slave mentality expecting the tip, In Indonesian if you eat in Restaurant no one ecpecting you to give a tip, if you happened leave your money for tip in the table the guy who work in the restaurant might run after you to remind you left your money on the table (This will not happened in international restaurant though in Jakarta)

If you want to give the tip normally the restaurant provide the box for you to put money there and usually the box written there for donation for orphane or something need help in the home town of restaurant owner.
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Timor ex-soldiers threaten guerrilla war
April 24, 2006 - 7:14PM


Nearly 600 soldiers dismissed last month from East Timor's armed forces for striking over labour conditions have threatened to wage a guerrilla war if the government failed to resolve their dispute with the military leadership.

About 3,000 people joined a protest rally on Monday organised by the soldiers in the capital. Protesters marched 10 kilometres into Dili, waving banners and posters denouncing the dismissals.

"We urge the government, the president, Parliament and Supreme Court to solve our problem ... in five days," said 2nd Lieutenant Gastao Salsinha, a spokesman for the soldiers who coordinated the February 8 strike.

"We the petitioners are ready to conduct a new guerrilla war in East Timor if our formal leaders in this country have no political will to solve our problem," he said.

There was no immediate response from the government or the military.

The strikers were protesting working conditions and promotion rules, and they demanded the elimination of alleged "nepotism and injustice" in the service.

The ex-soldiers also rejected a commission formed by President Xanana Gusmao to investigate the problem, accusing it of bias.

The dismissal of the soldiers was a serious blow to the 1,600-strong East Timor Defence Force, which was set up after East Timor voted for independence from Indonesia in 1999.

Most of the soldiers came from the ranks of the East Timorese resistance to Indonesian rule.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/Timor-...5861280384.html


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Soldiers attack traders in Dili protest

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Up in arms: dissident soldiers take to the streets of Dili.
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By Jill Jolliffe, Dili
April 25, 2006


A MARCH by dissident soldiers through the East Timorese capital yesterday turned ugly when demonstrators attacked market traders from the eastern Lospalos region.

The soldiers, from the western regions, were fired last month after a long dispute in which they claimed commanders discriminated against them in favour of easterners.

Led by former lieutenant Gastao Salsinha, the demonstration of about 5000, including civilian supporters, took over the city centre from early morning.

They marched to Government headquarters in protest against their sacking by army commander Taur Matan Ruak. The protesters called on President Xanana Gusmao to settle the dispute.

They then headed to Mr Gusmao's office. As they approached the marketplace, some broke ranks and chased terrified eastern stallholders, attacking them with rocks and pieces of wood.

One soldier was injured, but casualties from the other side are not known. The attackers were mainly civilian youths, who were reined in by the military men.

Ethnic violence has been growing in East Timor where prejudice against easterners has been rising in recent years.

Well-armed police accompanying the march kept a low profile, allowing the soldiers to run the show.

Relations between the two forces are bad after previous physical clashes. Members of the new army claim the police were recruited from collaborators with the Indonesian army.

The soldiers represent about one-third of the army. Mr Salsinha said they would continue demonstration until Thursday evening.

The men went absent without leave in February after accusing their commanders, many of them former guerillas from eastern regions, of overlooking them in promotions.

Mr Gusmao had agreed to mediate with commanders, but they were fired by Defence Minister Roque Rodrigues and army chief Taur Matan Ruak while he was abroad last month, triggering an earlier round of violence.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/soldie...5861285819.html
AzN_Magik
QUOTE(GluTTony @ Mar 11 2006, 06:25 PM) *

do you think East Timor is better if they go back being Indonesia?


I think they should develop good diplomatic relationship with indonesia since indonesia is the only country who will understand them and indonesia was their motherland. Who else will understand them?
purnomor
Violence erupts at E Timor rally

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The sacked soldiers' rallies have grown steadily more volatile

At least one person has been killed and several hurt after a rally by sacked soldiers in East Timor turned violent.

Police fired tear gas trying to disperse hundreds of soldiers and their supporters, who attacked shops and burned cars in the capital Dili.

At least five people were reported to have been injured, some seriously.


The protest was the most volatile of several staged this week against the sacking of 600 soldiers who went on strike claiming discrimination.

They went absent without leave last month to protest against their working conditions and what they called favouritism in promotions.

The government sacked all 600 of them - more than a third of the total defence force.

The target for Friday's violence appeared to be the office of Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri. Windows of the building were smashed and cars outside set alight.

Some nearby residents fled to try to seek refuge at the US embassy, the AFP news agency reported.

Theresa Soares, 21, said she and five of her relatives fled because "the situation is no longer safe".

"I came here for help but I am disappointed they did not let me in," she said outside the embassy.


Promotion dispute

At a previous rally on Wednesday police had to suppress a demonstration by the soldiers, when dozens of them started throwing stones at buildings and attacking market stalls with sticks.

Some of the demonstrators invaded houses, it was reported.

The soldiers - many of them from western districts of the country - originally left their posts because they believed they were missing out on promotion to colleagues from the east, according to protest leader Gastao Salsinha.

Many of the troops, who are veterans of the 25-year fight for independence from Indonesia, feel they have not been given the recognition they deserve for their past sacrifices, say analysts.

East Timor's government has said it will review some of the soldiers' complaints on a case-by-case basis.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4953574.stm
purnomor
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Scenes from today's riots in East Timor, where at least two people were killed in clashes between police and former soldiers
AzN_Magik
QUOTE(furansizuka @ Mar 10 2006, 07:51 PM) *

Australia, maybe? no?


yeah....as$tralia should help east timor since they supported the referendum and they're the one who wanted east timor to seperated.
purnomor
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Hundreds flee Timor-Leste violence


Saturday 29 April 2006, 15:14 Makka Time, 12:14 GMT

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Riots and sounds of gunfire prompted people to flee


More than 1,300 residents of Timor-Leste's seaside capital have fled their homes after four people died in protests by soldiers and their supporters, prompting the president to urge them to return to their homes.

The cash-strapped government dismissed more than 500 soldiers earlier this month, prompting a series of protests joined by groups the government says have broader motives.

Friday's demonstration turned violent, as protesters burned cars and threw rocks at police and officers fired into the crowd.

Police originally said two people died in the clashes, but on Saturday said two more bodies had been found, adding that all the dead were protesters.

The riot and sounds of gunfire in Dili overnight prompted the people to flee their homes.

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Residents have taken shelter in a church and the US embassy

More than 1,000 were camped out in the grounds of a Catholic cathedral and about 300 on a field at the US embassy.

Xanana Gusmao, the president, told the refugees: "The situation is under control now. I ask people to return home."

Friday's protest had been planned as the last in a series by the sacked soldiers. They say their dismissal was unfair and have demanded a quick government investigation.

A one-time Portuguese colony, Timor-Leste, formerly known as East Timor, was invaded by Indonesia in 1975 and formally annexed the following year.

No Australian troops

Alexander Downer, the Australian foreign minister, on Saturday ruled out any Australian involvement.

"There is no plan for Australia to become any more involved and the East Timorese haven't asked us to become involved," he said. "They feel confident they can handle the situation on their own."

One of the world's poorest countries, Timor-Leste has considerable energy resources but is only now starting to develop them.


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81 cross to Atambua to evade Dili riots
Yemris Fointuna, The Jakarta Post, Atambua

At least 81 people, including 28 foreigners from East Timor, the Philippines and Australia, left the East Timorese capital of Dili for Atambua in East Nusa Tenggara on Saturday after a violent protest Friday left four people dead.

The fleeing Indonesians said the situation in Dili was not good, especially after the East Timorese government imposed a curfew and prevented residents from going out of their homes.

The Indonesian Embassy in Dili warned Indonesians without urgent business not to travel to the country's former 27th province due to security conditions.

"Indonesians intending to go to East Timor have been asked to postpone their plans," Melki Ballo, an Indonesian immigration officer at Motaain, said on Saturday.

Reports from the border area indicated hundreds of Indonesians intended to evacuate but were blocked from doing so by East Timorese civilians and former soldiers who had been dismissed from the Liquisa district.

"They felled trees to block the road linking the two nations. Vehicles intending to go to Dili or other places were not allowed to continue their journey," said a source who asked not to be identified.

The security condition in Dili had not returned to normal as of Saturday evening. "Hundreds of Indonesians intending to cross the border to Atambua have been held in Liquisa. Buses plying the Dili-Kupang route are not in operation," Ballo said.

As of Saturday evening, security had been intensified along the border. The Indonesian Military, which declared an on-alert status there, also deployed three battalions of soldiers along the border zones, Ballo said.

Ballo said the flow of travellers across the border had dropped drastically. Normally, he said, up to 70 Indonesians per day crossed to Indonesia.

Alfrida Pasaribu, an Indonesian intending to go to East Timor to fetch her two children in Dili, was forced to return to Atambua due to the absence of transportation.

"I'm worried about the condition of my children. I've asked them to seek protection at the Indonesian Embassy, but they could not go out of their house because they were scared," Alfrida said.

Hundreds of soldiers, meanwhile, were deployed across Dili at strategic locations, AFP reported.

The streets of Dili were largely deserted with most public transportation not operating, though a few taxis still sought fares. Shops and markets mostly remained shuttered but the airport was operating under tight security.

East Timorese President Xanana Gusmao toured the city with local media and saw about 50 houses torched in Tacitolu.

"With sadness, I apologize to the people who had to flee their homes because the situation ran out of control yesterday (Friday)," the president told several thousand refugees sheltering at Don Bosco seminary.

"But now, I ask that all be prepared to return home calmly because I have talked with Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri and the situation has returned to normal," he said.


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Keadaan Darurat di Timor Leste, Warga Asing Tinggalkan Dili

Penulis: Palce Amalo
ATAMBUA--MIOL: Puluhan warga negara Indonesia (WNI) dan warga asing lainnya di kota Dili, Timor Leste berbondong-bondong meninggalkan negara itu menuju Atambua, Kabupaten Belu, Nusa Tenggara Timur (NTT). Mereka meninggalkan negara baru itu setelah merebaknya kerusuhan berdarah Jumat (28/4). Presiden Xanana mengumumkan negaranya dalam keadaan darurat.

Jumlah warga yang tiba di Atambua sebanyak 81 orang. Selain dari Indonesia, lainnya dari Filipina, Australia, dan juga Timor Leste. Di antaranya, 23 orang tiba Sabtu dan 58 orang lainnya sejak Jumat. Warga Indonesia umumnya kembali ke rumah.

Jumlah warga Indonesia yang meminta perlindungan ke kantor Kedutaan Besar Republik Indonesia (KBRI) di Dili bertambah dari 60 orang pada Jumat menjadi 81 orang pada Sabtu.

Warga yang meminta perlindungan kepada KBRI disebabkan mereka tidak memiliki akses ke perbatasan RI-Timor Leste untuk menyeberang. Soalnya, jalur antara Kota Dili hingga distrik Liquisa yang dekat dengan Kabupaten Belu, NTT diblokade demonstran yang beraksi di Dili, Jumat.

Demonstran memotong pepohonan di pinggir jalan kemudian membentangkannya di jalan raya. Termasuk batu berukuran besar sehingga hubungan darat antara Timor Leste dan Indonesia melalui jalur jalan tersebut lumpuh total.

Untuk mengantisipasi terjadinya tindak kejahatan terhadap WNI, KBRI Dili dilaporkan mengeluarkan peringatan kepada WNI untuk tidak bepergian ke negara tersebut.

Staf Imigrasi Atambua, Meli Ballo mengatakan, sejumlah pengungsi dilaporkan tertahan di Kota Liquisa karena tidak ada kendaraan yang membawa mereka ke perbatasan. Jalur jalan Liquisa hingga perbatasan relatif aman namun tidak ada angkutan kota yang berani beroperasi.

"Ada sejumlah anngkutan kota memang bersedia beroperasi tetapi menetapkan ongkos sangat mahal yakni US$15," kata Yoseph Senti, warga Atambua keturunan Timor Leste kepada Media Indonesia di Perbatasan RI-Timor Leste, Sabtu petang.

Yoseph ditemui ketika tengah menunggui istrinya yang dikabarkan tiba Sabtu dari Liquisa tetapi batal karena tidak ada angkutan yang melayani jalur ini sejak Jumat petang. Padahal sebelum meletus kerusuhan di Dili, ongkos angkutan kota dan bus yang melayani jalur Liquisa-Perbatasan RI-Timor Leste US$3 dan untuk travel US$5.

Jalur ke Atambua dapat dialihkan melalui Bobonaro-Atsabe-Ermera-Lailaku-Tibar - Dili. Tetapi di Tibar juga ada blokade jalan.

Penjagaan ditingkatkan

Hingga Sabtu malam, penjagaan di perbatasan kedua negara ditingkatkan. TNI menyiagakan tiga batalion di sepanjang garis batas dan telah memberlakukan status siaga satu sejak Kamis (24/4).

Dalam kondisi normal, setiap hari lebih dari 70 WNI maupun warga asing yang menyeberang ke Indonesia. Alfrida Pasaribu, istri salah satu staf PBB di Timor Leste, Sabtu, terpaksa kembali ke Motaain karena tidak tersedia bis dan angkutan lainnya untuk membawanya dari perbatasan ke Kota Dili. Afrida ingin menjemput dua anaknya di kota Dili.

"Saya sudah minta anak-anak berlindung ke KBRI tetapi mereka kesulitan keluar rumah karena takut," katanya.

Selain itu dari Dili diperoleh laporan, Presiden Timor Leste Kay Rala Xanana Gusmao, sejak Jumat malam mengambilalih tanggung jawab keamanan negara dan telah mengumumkan negara dalam keadaan darurat.

Kerusuhan yang meletus di Dili dipicu oleh kebijakan Panglima Tentara Nasional Timor Leste Brigjen Taur Matan Ruak yang memecat 591 anggota tentara dari dinas kemiliteran. Para tentara yang dipecat dan ratusan warga telah melakukan aksi protes dengan turun ke jalan-jalan membawa senjata.

Dalam kerusuhan Jumat, tiga orang dilaporkan tewas, satu korban di antaranya seorang Komandan Polisi Timor Leste. Dua korban lainnya warga sipil. Lebih dari 28 warga sipil dan polisi Timor Leste mengalami luka-luka. Belasan kendaraan dan rumah dibakar.

Demonstran sempat menyerang kantor PM Mari Alkatiri dan gedung parlemen. (PO/OL-02).


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An East Timorese man stand in the wreckage of his home, burnt-down by rioters last Friday

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East Timorese refugees

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Heavily-armed East Timorese soldiers patrol Dili streets. Ex-soldiers responsible for recent violence have holed-up in the hills above Dili, threatening guerilla war if their demands are not met.
purnomor
Violence forces Timorese to makeshift refugee camps

Stephen Fitzpatrick, Dili
May 01, 2006


THOUSANDS of East Timorese were pouring into makeshift refugee camps in Dili last night, fearful of being murdered in an outbreak of ethnic violence.

Homes in the capital have been torched and a marketplace razed over the weekend, bandit gangs organised on ethnic lines are patrolling the roads to towns beyond Dili, and many ordinary Timorese are being forced to identify neighbours to be attacked or killed.


Many who have lost their homes are sheltering in refugee camps such as the Dom Bosco seminary, which last housed masses of frightened East Timorese during the 1999 post-referendum massacres.

Others in the wave of frightened people heading for shelter last night included those who refused to take part in attacks, making themselves targets.

Five people are believed dead in the violence, the worst since East Timor won independence from Indonesia in 1999.

More than 40 people were being treated in Dili's main hospital yesterday for injuries stemming from machete and bullet wounds. Other victims had been hit by stones and arrows, said doctor Antonio Caleres.

At Dom Bosco, principal brother Adriano de Jesus said yesterday that 1500 families had gathered on Friday afternoon.

"I myself just saw another 30 families arrive," he said. "Last night the football field was full of people, none of whom believed they were safe at home.

"We have here several families from Liquica (an outlying town) who came for market on Friday, leaving infant children at home. They cannot return now because there is a danger gangs on the road will kill them.

"I've tried to organise security to get them home, but the police say it is not safe to travel."


One man said he had brought his family of 15 to the shelter after a demonstration on Friday turned ugly and spread to other parts of the dusty port city, with up to five people dead. "There was shooting, and I was afraid my family would be hit," he said.

Aid groups are providing food, medicines, portable toilets and food and water for the refugees.

The latest violence began with a series of protests over the perceived ill-treatment of a group of almost 600 soldiers from the tiny nation's western-based ethnic group, sacked after going on strike over claims they had missed out on promotion in favour of soldiers from the east.

Discontent built in Friday's heat to a murderous campaign of savagery, with angry supporters of the deserting soldiers attacking the office of Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri after a 3pm deadline for the Government to respond to their grievances passed without action.

The building's windows were smashed and a number of vehicles torched. Demonstrators allege troops opened fire, first with tear gas and then with live rounds, when the crowd showed signs of heading towards the town's shopping district. Two people are thought to have been killed in that episode.

In the nearby Taibesi market area, the ethnic tensions took on an equally deadly turn when a fist-fight between two men from the country's two main ethnic divisions - Lorosae, or easterners, and Loromonu, westerners - degenerated into a brawl that ended with at least one man shot in the head and the easterners' section of the market destroyed.


President Xanana Gusmao met late yesterday with Dr Alkatiri, Foreign Minister Jose Ramos Horta, police chief Paulo Martins and army commander Brigadier-General Taur Matan Ruak to discuss the crisis.

Foreign Minister Alexander Downer urged Australians who were in East Timor, or thinking of going to the country, to exercise the highest degree of caution.

"As for the cause of the riots, we are still investigating that," he said. "There have been about 590 members of the East Timorese army who have been dismissed from the army, and those people have been demonstrating from time to time against the East Timor Government.

"But there's some evidence ... that these riots weren't triggered by those people, as is popularly believed. But we're continuing to monitor the situation.

"There is no plan for Australia to become any more involved, and the East Timorese haven't asked us to become involved in any way at all by sending any reinforcements to them - they feel confident they can handle the situation on their own."

One villager said the violence in Taibesi was the result of frustration that East Timor's struggling administration had failed to provide an adequate standard of living or protect its citizens and that the dispute over the soldiers' treatment was the spark for the chaos.

"Send back the UN to run the country and provide security," Antonio Castro demanded.

"The market was torched because our Government has failed to live up to its responsibilities, so the youth took matters into their own hands."


Dr Alkatiri made an address on national radio and TV last night appealing for calm, but Brother de Jesus said he was worried violence would flare up again. "Yesterday I brought one of the military deserters here and he had been shot," Brother de Jesus said.

"He told me: 'I am a victim in this.' He himself had been shot by the military."

Most witnesses say few of the deserting soldiers have been involved in recent events - they have largely taken to the hills, says one, "where they are now being hunted like wild animals".
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...453-601,00.html
purnomor
20,000 flee Dili fearing civil war
Stephen Fitzpatrick and Mark Dodd
May 05, 2006


MORE than 20,000 East Timorese, fearing renewed ethnic violence, have fled the riot-torn capital of Dili as the Government made desperate calls for calm yesterday.

Trucks, taxis and people pushing handcarts streamed out of the city after reports military infighting was about to explode.


At least 11 people are thought to have been killed since last Friday, and the toll is expected to grow.

Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said yesterday he would support extending the mandate of the UN mission in Dili after a request from his East Timorese counterpart, Jose Ramos Horta.

Australia has three military liaison officers and four civilian police attached to the peacekeeping operation in East Timor, known as the United Nations Office in Timor-Leste.

Dili's port and airport were crowded with refugees yesterday, many shops were closed and there was panic buying at those that remained open. Petrol prices jumped from about US80c ($1.04) a litre to more than $US1 by midday.

Suburbs and the city centre were practically empty by mid-afternoon as people responded to text messages warning that the civil war that followed the 1999 independence vote was about to restart.


President Xanana Gusmao and Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri held a joint press conference at which they urged almost 600 military deserters who have fled to the hills around Dili to return to the negotiating table. They also tried to reassure the East Timorese there was no likelihood of war breaking out.

Dozens of police from the country's western region have deserted their posts and escaped to join families in the mountains, the traditional refuge for Timorese in times of trouble.

A Dili-based World Bank official said the police had joined several hundred rebel soldiers, creating a grave risk for the Government.

Ethnic-based tensions between members of East Timor's police and defence force have intensified in recent months.

Loromonu, or the nation's westerners, claim they are being passed over for promotion in favour of Lorosae, or people from the east. Similar tensions boiled over in December 2003, when mobs rioted and shops were burnt.

"Police from the western parts of East Timor have deserted their quarters and joined the petitioners in the mountains," one employee of an international body said. "As they left they took their guns and ammunition with them.


"People are starting to panic. It reminds me of 1999."

Minister for Labour and Humanitarian Affairs Arsenio Bano said his office was drawing up plans to care for up to 20,000 displaced people.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...38-2702,00.html
Majapahitans
Makin berantakan aja tuh Timor Leste...... sure.gif

Timor Leste getting worst each day...
Kasian juga sih......

Glad my sister in-law outta that country months ago.....
purnomor
East Timor on violent course
Stephen Fitzpatrick and Patrick Walters
May 06, 2006


HUNDREDS of dismissed East Timorese soldiers have threatened to launch attacks in Dili and across the nation by tomorrow, unless the Government of Mari Alkatiri is dissolved.

A fresh crisis could see pressure mount for a return of Australian troops as the vanguard of a new peacekeeping force. East Timorese President Xanana Gusmao has met with Australia's ambassador to East Timor, Margaret Twomey, to brief her on the situation.

John Howard said yesterday Australia would consider any request from the Government of East Timor to send troops.

The Defence Department has contingency plans in place to evacuate an estimated 800 Australians living in East Timor in the event of a breakdown of law and order in the capital.

"There has been a very difficult situation there in the past few days and I hope it stabilises," Mr Howard told Southern Cross Broadcasting. "But it is an independent country and it's really a matter of Australia anxiously watching and being willing to help if we can, and, if it's appropriate, and most importantly of all, only if we were asked."

Mr Gusmao was last night given a 48-hour deadline to exercise his presidential powers and sack the Government of Prime Minister Alkatiri and abolish the country's military.

Opposition figure Fernando Lasana said Mr Gusmao had the rebels' full support "but the decision to act - including whether to invite the support of our neighbours such as Australia and New Zealand - is now in his hands". "We hope this will not lead to civil war - I think all parties will try to avoid that - but it is clear this Government is incapable of solving the problems facing it," he said.

Many residents have abandoned Dili in the past few days in anticipation of open warfare, despite reassurances from Mr Gusmao and Dr Alkatiri.

More than two dozen retired Falintil guerilla fighters met yesterday to draft the declaration. It was signed and delivered by Lieutenant Gastao Salsinha, the leader of 591 soldiers sacked in February for deserting their posts amid claims of discrimination in the military.

The soldiers, all from the western-based Loromonu ethnic group, say they have been overlooked for promotion in favour of members of the country's Lorosae, or eastern group.

They have been joined in recent days by military police, who absconded with automatic weapons and small arms and who are travelling in military vehicles.

Groups of these police were yesterday guarding the narrow, winding road leading to the mountain hideout from where Lieutenant Salsinha and his backers issued their challenge.

Many more soldiers in full combat uniform are gathered at the house from where the declaration was delivered, evidently charged with protecting the rebel movement from East Timor's standing military, who have been ordered to hunt them down. The crisis has escalated after rioting last week in Dili left an unknown number of people dead.


Mr Gusmao telephoned Lieutenant Solsinha late yesterday afternoon in a last-minute attempt to stave off what amounted to a declaration of preparedness for war, but the rebel leader told Mr Gusmao, who is the leader of the country's armed forces, that it was "too late".
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e_vaholic
and now many east timorese doing exodus to our country..
what are they thinking actually?
Astromantic
Do you think RMS will be like Timor Leste once they get independence? I think they will.
e_vaholic
i hope they won't
we have to prevent that!
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