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Tieu Su Phu
Ai Nam Quan is forever lost. The saying that "Vietnamese territory stretches from the Ca Mau point (in the south) to Ai Nam Quan (in the north)" is no longer true. This band of thugs currently in government has sold it to the chinese in order to gain material benefits and strengthening their position to further rape and pillage the Vietnamese people.


Ai Nam Quan's location according to the pre-1954 French map is approx. 8 kilometers from Dong Dang.

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This has been reduced to less than 6 kilometers during the Vietnam War. The communist government ceded the Ai Nam Quan strategic pass to the Chinese in order for them to receive chinese support for the war, a war to kill their own people and enslave them under communism. Pham Van Dong also signed an agreement recognizing China's sovereignty over Hoang Sa (the Paracels) and Truong Sa (the Spratleys) islands.


After the 1999 agreement of which this bastardized government again selling Vietnamese territory to china, Dong Dang is a mere 2 km from the border. Also, the border has inched closer to the National Highway 4A.


How would this communist government repay for the crimes it committed against the Vietnamese people and the Motherland?
SuperNguyen
its sad, thats worst then selling their soles to the devil since there selling apart of everyone in VN...
Tieu Su Phu
This government has been living on lies and deceit for too long. History and the current and future generations of Vietnamese will curse this government for its "achievements".
TrashCleaner
Sorry, but several Western friends of mine and I think that the Vietnam War is a lot more complicated than that. All in all, it is the war that unified Vietnam. REMEMBER: Vietnamese communism started to get the French out of Vietnam. Researches showed this clearly. If it didnt exist, you might now call yourself a slave of the French.

The stupid South Vietnamese government is the problem creater. They refused to hold election (which is against the agreement earlier, what betrayal dogs they are icon_twisted.gif ), if the election was held, problem may end much earlier from the beginning.

Who are they to criticise Vietnam??? BAD LOSERS. Actually almost all Vietnamese in Vietnam (that is ~80 million people) cursed the that stupid government. They just dont show it. If you ask more, you will know it.

The current government of Vietnam although not good, is still far better than that stupid government who came up with idiotic policies resulting in a lot more atrocities than North Vietnam at the time.

THAT IS THE TRUTH .
ONE MORE TRUTH IS THAT VIETNAMESE HISTORY WILL ALWAYS HAVE THAT STUPID GOVERNMENT HELD IN SHAME (should never become a government in the first place, it is puppet)
Tieu Su Phu
Vietnam would've got independence sooner or later, there's no doubt about that. Your "a slave of the French" just shows how ignorant you are.

It was not just the communists who tried to gain Vietnamese independence. There were also Hoang Hoa Tham and Phan Boi Chau among other prominent figures and independent movements. You must remember that Wh@re Chi Minh sold out Phan Boi Chau to the French for a substantial sum of money.

Yes I blame the fu-king French and Americans for meddling in Vietnamese affairs and setting up a puppet regime, thus preventing the reunification, thus causing more deaths and suffering for the Vietnamese people.



Anyway, you're missing the point. This government is taking the Vietnamese people for a ride and butchering Vietnam piece by piece and selling it to its eternal enemy.
nombaingsachko
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Ai Nam Quan is forever lost. The saying that "Vietnamese territory stretches from the Ca Mau point (in the south) to Ai Nam Quan (in the north)" is no longer true. This band of thugs currently in government has sold it to the chinese in order to gain material benefits and strengthening their position to further rape and pillage the Vietnamese people.

karma's a beeyatch.. beerchug.gif
bobvu
vietnam communists thumbsdown.gif
NTV
QUOTE (TrashCleaner @ Mar 10 2006, 05:55 PM) *
Sorry, but several Western friends of mine and I think that the Vietnam War is a lot more complicated than that. All in all, it is the war that unified Vietnam. REMEMBER: Vietnamese communism started to get the French out of Vietnam. Researches showed this clearly. If it didnt exist, you might now call yourself a slave of the French.

The stupid South Vietnamese government is the problem creater. They refused to hold election (which is against the agreement earlier, what betrayal dogs they are icon_twisted.gif ), if the election was held, problem may end much earlier from the beginning.

Who are they to criticise Vietnam??? BAD LOSERS. Actually almost all Vietnamese in Vietnam (that is ~80 million people) cursed the that stupid government. They just dont show it. If you ask more, you will know it.

The current government of Vietnam although not good, is still far better than that stupid government who came up with idiotic policies resulting in a lot more atrocities than North Vietnam at the time.

THAT IS THE TRUTH .
ONE MORE TRUTH IS THAT VIETNAMESE HISTORY WILL ALWAYS HAVE THAT STUPID GOVERNMENT HELD IN SHAME (should never become a government in the first place, it is puppet)


Let's talk about the SVN gov't later.

I'm sure that you can agree with me that they (the SVN gov't. aka Puppet regime. aka Traitors. Whatever...) could NOT possibly lose any part of VN from the 17th Parallel up to the Chinese border, to anyone, since they had never had control of that part of VN in the first place.

Now let's concentrate on the topic that Tieu Su Phu has brought up. Is it true that Ai Nam Quan is currently under Chinese control?

I'd be happy that you can share your opinion with us on that.
landsknechts
lũ khốn nạn chó đẻ chống cộng mà cũng muốn nói chuyện bán buôn hả trời; cái lũ này đă bán đứng luôn cả sinh mạng của vô số đồng bào cho hàng vạn tấn bom đạn của Mỹ, hàng tấn lít chất độc mầu da cam khiến cho vô số các trẻ em ngày nay sinh ra mang đầy tật nguyền, tụi chó đẻ này đă bán đứng luôn cả sinh mạng của nhân dân VN ở các tỉnh miền Trung cho bọn giặc đại hàn nữa ḱa

Đúng là cái bọn chó đẻ khốn kiếp, sinh mạng của người VN mà nó cũng có thể đem đi bán được th́ c̣n cái ǵ để nói nữa
picard
If this true then those bastards will pay some day. Is there a way to get the names of those communists? their names should be publish in the newspaper in the US and around the world. Someone will put a price on their heads.
daidai
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All in all, it is the war that unified Vietnam.


HOw can you say "unified" in such a positive note? It's not like the South wanted to united with the North, we were forced to since we lost the war. It would be "unified" if both sides agreed to the idea.
Tieu Su Phu
QUOTE (picard @ Mar 11 2006, 12:03 PM) *
If this true then those bastards will pay some day. Is there a way to get the names of those communists? their names should be publish in the newspaper in the US and around the world. Someone will put a price on their heads.

Yes they will pay. The animals that are in government right now will one day pay for their crimes against our people and our country.

They are not Vietnamese, they are agents to our northern eternal enemy.
TrashCleaner
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HOw can you say "unified" in such a positive note? It's not like the South wanted to united with the North, we were forced to since we lost the war. It would be "unified" if both sides agreed to the idea.


OMG, Please dont tell me you have this separatist ideology.

So many North Vietnamese died just because they believe that the region of South Vietnam is a part of our country. We often say "Mien Nam ruot thit" to mean that South Vietnam is an integral part of the mother Vietnam. If you every read "Dang Thuy Tram diary", you will know how strong she feel that way, despite the fact that she is quite young and naive. She is like most young people of North Vietnam, dont even scare to loose her life to reunite Vietnam.

I know that some South Vietnamese may feel that they are in bad shape like today because of the unification. But the very fact of being a human and a Vietnamese is that even you move away from your root, you will always remember and try to connect with it. And there is no concrete reason to believe that South Vietnam would reach the level of South Korea if the unification have not taken place. With a incompetent puppet government like the South Vietnamese government at the time, it may even be in worse shape than the Phillipines, which was at the time way ahead of South Korea. I learnt that that government even tried to force full integration (even by blood) of all ethnic minorities and they even tried to turn Vietnam into a Christian/Catholic state. (this resulted in so many deaths), So incompetent!!! bawling.gif

Any the very reason for VC to exist is that many South Vietnamese longed to unify with the North, and they also fought for it with so many deaths too.
Happy Asian
fu-k two VietNams' ideology!!
Tieu Su Phu
We are talking about the issue of selling out national territorial integrity for personal benefits of the few here.
spicy
more bad news icon_sad.gif

don't they even know how wrong it is selling part of Vietnam? sure they don't
bobvu
vietnam probably needs to bully cambodia or laos for some territory to make up for that lost land. damn, this world is all about the strongs bullying the weaks. embarassedlaugh.gif
supernovasp
QUOTE (bobvu @ Mar 11 2006, 09:53 PM) *
vietnam probably needs to bully cambodia or laos for some territory to make up for that lost of land. damn, this world is all about the strongs bullying the weaks. embarassedlaugh.gif

stolen lands aren't as great as ancestral land thumbsdown.gif
bobvu
in a few hundreds years, they will become ancestral land. we can't do anything about the land that was lost. vietnam needs to ally with the US since the US is eagerly looking for someone to counter China. vietnam is not strong enough to deal with china alone right now.
supernovasp
QUOTE (bobvu @ Mar 11 2006, 10:18 PM) *
in a few hundreds years, they will become ancestral land. we can't do anything about the land that was lost. vietnam needs to ally with the US since the US is eagerly looking for someone to counter China. vietnam is not strong enough to deal with china alone right now.

North Vietnam has always our ancestral land biggthumpup.gif
bobvu
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Mar 12 2006, 01:35 PM) *
North Vietnam has always our ancestral land biggthumpup.gif


northern vietnam will be absorbed into the chinese empire if the commies are not on their guard. the south was where our ancestors sacrificed their lives and blood to conquer. it's as valuable as any northern piece of land.
supernovasp
QUOTE (bobvu @ Mar 11 2006, 10:59 PM) *
northern vietnam will be absorbed into the chinese empire if the commies are not on their guard. the south was where our ancestors sacrificed their lives and blood to conquer. it's as valuable as any northern piece of land.

but northern vietnam was the cradle of vietnamese civilization biggthumpup.gif
Happy Asian
Dai Viet will kick arse again, tay tien commence!
Tieu Su Phu
STFU. Vietcongs sold out our ancestral land and stealing Khmer land will not compensate for their crimes.
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