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chynagongju
I was just wondering about this subject. It came up recently when I was talking to my friends. One [Indian Muslim] said that she couldn't tell anyone about her bf because he's Hindu. Then my other friend [Indian Hindu] gasped really loudly. She kind of explained that Hindus and Muslims can't be together and that it's taboo and everything.

What I don't understand is..why?
n4ce12
religion...purity

I think its only one way(muslims) and its the girls that have it strict, guys are ok to date outside

religion...its an interesting thing

EDIT: imagine two parents with different religions married...what religion will the child be? what holidays?what if two holidays happen at the same time? lets say the child manage to have 2 religions, marries another person with new religion. Now the the grandchildren has 3/4 religions...it piles up
NewGitamrta202
Exactly! For the Abrahamic religions, it's all a numbers game. Who has the most followers and how to keep them. That's why their not suppose to marry out of their relgion. It doesn't help them gain territory. I don't think it's a good idea for Hindus to marry Muslims, either. Their children will, most likely, not be raised Hindu. And all non-believers would be kafirs, including their, Hindu parent. It just doesn't work. From a religious POV, muslims arent allowed to marry non-believers. Or only the men can, but only if the women is christian or jewish(people of the book). Now why can only the men marry non-believers? Because it's a noted reality that the children will be raised muslims, because of the father. For me that tells it all! Talktohand.gif

MARRIAGE BETWEEN MUSLIM MEN AND WOMEN OF PEOPLE OF BOOKS (CHRISTIAN OR JEW)

RELIGIOUS COMPATIBILITY:

Given the western environment so resentful and inconsiderate toward Islam, its always better to have peace in the "home." The family life will be much worry-free and harmonious if both spouses belong to the same religion and agree on same methodology esp. if cultural differences also exist. Islam allows a Muslim man to marry a believing Christian or Jew woman, (Ahl-e-Kitab believers of Holy Books) `" that is such marriages are only recommended only in an predominate Islamic society.

It is always better to introduce the woman to Islam and encourage her to become Muslima BEFORE marrying her. (preferably one year before wedding) It will allow the woman to realize if
she can take Islam as her religion and raise her kids as Muslims
; or if she has any innate negative notions against Islam or unwillingness to follow Islamic way of life. Most probably it will become self-evident to the man that what type family life can he expect from her as a wife.


Inter-marriage between Muslims and Kafirs (non-Muslims) is Prohibited

Allah Says in Holy Quran sure.gif

And do not marry the 'Mushrik' women unless they come to believe; and a Muslim slave girl is better than a 'Mushrik' woman, even though she may attract you; and do not give (your women) in marriage to 'Mushrik' men unless they come to believe; and a Muslim slave is better than a 'Mushrik' even though he may attract you. They invite to the Fire when Allah invites, by His will, to the Paradise and to forgiveness, and makes His verses clear to the people, so that they may observe the advice. Surah Al-Baqarah 2: 221
Verse 2:221 carries an injunction relating to marriage with in (those who associate partners with Allah). The commentary below explains the injunction in some detail.

Inter-marriage between Muslims and Kafirs (non-Muslims) is Prohibited

In the verse under discussion an important ruling has been given. It is states that the marriage of Muslims males with Kafir females (disbelieving in Islam) and the marriage of Kafir females with Muslim males is not permissible. The reason is: Kafir males and females become the cause that leads man into the Hell. Marital relations demand mutual love and harmony and without these the real purpose behind such relationship remains unrealized. If such close relations of love and affection are established with Mushrikin ( those who associate with Allah such as Christian) or disbeliever, the inevitable effect will be that Muslims may emotionally tilt towards Kufr and Shirk or, in a lesser degree, the very abhorrence of Kufr and Shirk may just not remain there in their hearts. Consequently, they too, may get involved with Kufr and Shirk (disbelieving and polytheist) and thereby end up in Hell. Therefore, it was said that these people call everyone to come to Hell while Allah Almighty calls man to Paradise and to His forgiveness and, for this purpose, states His injunctions openly and clearly so that people follow the wise counsel.
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Cruelty in the Quran eek.gif
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badteeth.gif-2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. icon_confused.gif

Hindus should never marry muslims! Better just to marry into your own religious group and avoid all the confusion and drama! biggthumpup.gif

Faith Freedom International beerchug.gif
raindropz
How come in Islam the men has all the privelges to do what they want and the women if she does something it soo big...for example like Meera she came in Bollywood and everybody started to hate her in pakistan...but when a actor[male] from pakistan comes they don't make a big deal if they kiss onscreen...
lovelytruth
DOn't hate each other just love...What about the Buddhism ?
Excuse_Me
QUOTE (raindropz @ Mar 12 2006, 01:19 AM) *
How come in Islam the men has all the privelges to do what they want and the women if she does something it soo big...for example like Meera she came in Bollywood and everybody started to hate her in pakistan...but when a actor[male] from pakistan comes they don't make a big deal if they kiss onscreen...


Alot of muslims especially those living in Islamic countries believe that the male race is superior to that of there counterpart........
chynagongju
Hmmm I can see the religious differences thing, but for other major religions, like Christianity, they don't mind if you marry outside of your religion.

I thought there was something deeper than that?
NewGitamrta202
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Mar 11 2006, 11:30 AM) *
I thought there was something deeper than that?


Not really! Not everything has to have some deep, dramatic answers. It's a numbers game. Getting and keeping the most amount of followers. There's power in numbers! kaching.gif
rahul1000
I don't want to hate Muslims, but its mostly them that start all the agression. Why do you think Pakistan was created? Because those Muslims refused to live with us "inferior, backwards Hindus". Same goes for Palestine and Chechnya if you ask me, they don't feel as if they could never assimilate into our societies and nations so they have to go and create their own.
Muslims are intolerant towards other religions, especially Hinduism, just look at all the innocent Hindus that have been slaughtered by Muslim fanatics!
Of course most Muslims are peace loving but its just I never hear about that in the media, I just keep hearing about Muslims killing Hindus and so a very negative image of them forms in my mind... icon_neutral.gif icon_sad.gif
I really feel that all Muslims want other non-Muslims to go and convert to their religion, I really feel as if Islam cannot coexist with other religions, thus the creation of Pakistan for instance.

We should stop all the hate, but I think the Muslims should go first, especially the intolerant ones.
Hell, I have three Muslim children neighbors and one time and we mostly coexist peacefully but one time, they just came up to us and insulted us and our religion, calling us "idol and cow worshipping wackos" and other things. I mean, these were freaking 8-12 year olds I'm talking about here! Are there parents teaching them to insult other religions!?!? thumbsdown.gif
chynagongju
So it's basically deeply rooted in history then.

And about tolerance. Muslim's are unable to tolerate religions other than their own?
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Mar 11 2006, 11:12 AM) *
And about tolerance. Muslim's are unable to tolerate religions other than their own?



Muslims are told to tax indfidels to death.....or to conversion. Which ever comes first.
tinman01
QUOTE (Tenjikuronin @ Mar 11 2006, 03:20 PM) *
Muslims are told to tax indfidels to death.....or to conversion. Which ever comes first.

Muslims are not intolerant, radicals are intolerant. Look at how the muslim radicals are killing each other in Iraq. Thats why it seems foolish to me to believe Iran is just misunderstood. Its a nation led by radicals. Muslims don't like the women to be educated. Why? Because then they would be able to make educated decisions about controling thier own lives. I am not hindu or muslem. I try to accept other peoples beliefs as thier own personal choice. But radicals are everyones problem. Today the muslim radicals hate the USA. If the Usa went home and never went back to the middle east would the hate end? NOPE. But who would be next? India because of border disputes with pakistan? Jordan because they choose to try and get along with everyone? This is the problem with the radicals they are all about hate not reason or logic.
Tieu Su Phu
QUOTE (rahul1000 @ Mar 12 2006, 05:42 AM) *
I don't want to hate Muslims, but its mostly them that start all the agression. Why do you think Pakistan was created? Because those Muslims refused to live with us "inferior, backwards Hindus". Same goes for Palestine and Chechnya if you ask me, they don't feel as if they could never assimilate into our societies and nations so they have to go and create their own.
Muslims are intolerant towards other religions, especially Hinduism, just look at all the innocent Hindus that have been slaughtered by Muslim fanatics!
Of course most Muslims are peace loving but its just I never hear about that in the media, I just keep hearing about Muslims killing Hindus and so a very negative image of them forms in my mind... icon_neutral.gif icon_sad.gif
I really feel that all Muslims want other non-Muslims to go and convert to their religion, I really feel as if Islam cannot coexist with other religions, thus the creation of Pakistan for instance.

We should stop all the hate, but I think the Muslims should go first, especially the intolerant ones.
Hell, I have three Muslim children neighbors and one time and we mostly coexist peacefully but one time, they just came up to us and insulted us and our religion, calling us "idol and cow worshipping wackos" and other things. I mean, these were freaking 8-12 year olds I'm talking about here! Are there parents teaching them to insult other religions!?!? thumbsdown.gif

Are you kidding? The race riots in India were instigated by Hindu fanatics and the victims were overwhelmingly Muslims.
tinman01
QUOTE (Tieu Su Phu @ Mar 11 2006, 09:21 PM) *
Are you kidding? The race riots in India were instigated by Hindu fanatics and the victims were overwhelmingly Muslims.

You make my point for me. Its not Ideologies at fault. Its radicals and fanatics. They succeed by causing unreasonable hate or prejudices. They create stero types that are hard to break there in lies the poison that they spread.
Suijen
QUOTE (tinman01 @ Mar 11 2006, 07:14 PM) *
Today the muslim radicals hate the USA. If the Usa went home and never went back to the middle east would the hate end? NOPE. But who would be next? India because of border disputes with pakistan? Jordan because they choose to try and get along with everyone? This is the problem with the radicals they are all about hate not reason or logic.


Very enlightening. I never thought about it in these terms.
toki


is that for real? confused.gif
chynagongju
QUOTE (toki @ Mar 11 2006, 09:11 PM) *


is that for real? confused.gif

That's kind of an oxymoron...
NewGitamrta202
QUOTE (toki @ Mar 11 2006, 09:11 PM) *


is that for real? confused.gif


Yes, unfortunately it is for real! It happened at one of those "peaceful protests" afer the cartoon controversy! icon_sad.gif


Skeptics Annoted Quran

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/

tinman01
QUOTE (Suijen @ Mar 11 2006, 10:00 PM) *
Very enlightening. I never thought about it in these terms.

Imagine if the radicals would only chanel the energy they use for hate towards constructive things. Instead of buying weapons and bombs use the money to improve the community they live in.WOW what an example they would set. The friends they would gain. real friends not just the arms dealers. Gives one something to consider.
toki
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Mar 11 2006, 09:22 PM) *
That's kind of an oxymoron...

why would they write the message in english? just looks a lil suspicious to be fake to me
NewGitamrta202
QUOTE (Tieu Su Phu @ Mar 11 2006, 08:21 PM) *
Are you kidding? The race riots in India were instigated by Hindu fanatics and the victims were overwhelmingly Muslims.



You have to be full of it! Every problem in today's world is caused by muslims. The cartoon riots, subway bombing(in London), 911, Bali bombings(2002/2005), Theo Van Gogh murder, kidnapping in Iraq, beheadings in Iraq, terrorism in Kashmir, the Delhi bombings and the recent terrorist attack in Varanasi. Muslims need to get their act together and stop trying to put their problems off on someone else. Talktohand.gif
NewGitamrta202
QUOTE (toki @ Mar 11 2006, 09:52 PM) *
why would they write the message in english? just looks a lil suspicious to be fake to me


It was a protest from UK muslims, that's why it's in English! beerchug.gif

Sources cool30.gif

Islam for dummies:Looney Toons(It's the 3rd sign) biggthumpup.gif


This Speaks for itself...

Mohammed Cartoon War: Replacing Rage With Peace

Yahoo Search-"Behead those who say Islam is violent!"(123,000 results)

Hope it's not so suspicious, now! Talktohand.gif
tinman01
QUOTE (NewGitamrta202 @ Mar 11 2006, 11:07 PM) *
It was a protest from UK muslims, that's why it's in English! beerchug.gif

Sources cool30.gif

Islam for dummies:Looney Toons(It's the 3rd sign) biggthumpup.gif


This Speaks for itself...

Mohammed Cartoon War: Replacing Rage With Peace

Yahoo Search-"Behead those who say Islam is violent!"(123,000 results)

Hope it's not so suspicious, now! Talktohand.gif

Something has occured to me. The radical muslims claim that thier war on the USa and other nonbelievers is about them being persecuted. Then why did we not hear all the moral outrage when it came to croatia? It was mostly the nonmuslem countries that took a stand to protect the croation muslems. Where was IRAN, Syria, etc.?
paragonx
what i dont like about islam is that it promotes that men are superior and women are considered inferior and are not treated right.
toki
i was looking through those sources but i haven't found highly good evidence its real. i dunno. why write it in english anyways? if they're hoping for the danish to see it then why in english? and otherwise.. well i dunno. i gues im gonna research more on those signs. looks photoshopped.
tinman01
QUOTE (toki @ Mar 12 2006, 01:37 AM) *
i was looking through those sources but i haven't found highly good evidence its real. i dunno. why write it in english anyways? if they're hoping for the danish to see it then why in english? and otherwise.. well i dunno. i gues im gonna research more on those signs. looks photoshopped.

maybe they choose english because its almost a universal language.
raindropz
QUOTE (paragonx @ Mar 12 2006, 12:19 AM) *
what i dont like about islam is that it promotes that men are superior and women are considered inferior and are not treated right.




same here
NewGitamrta202
QUOTE (toki @ Mar 12 2006, 12:37 AM) *
i was looking through those sources but i haven't found highly good evidence its real. i dunno. why write it in english anyways? if they're hoping for the danish to see it then why in english? and otherwise.. well i dunno. i gues im gonna research more on those signs. looks photoshopped.




I said eariler that, it was UK muslims(in the UK they speak English duh2.gif )! And they put the sign in english so everyone can read it. Like someone said before, english is a universal language! Danish isn't! I guess peoeple can always fing errors, were there isn't really any! icon_rolleyes.gif

Well good luck on your research! beerchug.gif
ndnboi
QUOTE (Tieu Su Phu @ Mar 11 2006, 09:21 PM) *
Are you kidding? The race riots in India were instigated by Hindu fanatics and the victims were overwhelmingly Muslims.


That's right but don't forget about the Sikh victims. I like everyone of any religion as long as they aren't fanatics and India has lots of Hindu fanatics. My cousins in Delhi had personal 'experiences' with them.
NewGitamrta202
QUOTE (ndnboi @ Mar 12 2006, 10:06 AM) *
That's right but don't forget about the Sikh victims. I like everyone of any religion as long as they aren't fanatics and India has lots of Hindu fanatics. My cousins in Delhi had personal 'experiences' with them.


Muslims are the ones who are terrorizing people in India and around the world! When Bush came to India Muslim fanatics forced Hindus to protest against Bush. The terrorist attach in Varanasi and the October blast in Delhi, was because of Muslims. Mulims in India should be happy they're allowed to stay, period. After all the violence and riots they've caused. Muslims are the biggest threat to modern civilization. thumbsdown.gif

Skeptics Annotated Quran biggthumpup.gif
rahul1000
QUOTE (NewGitamrta202 @ Mar 12 2006, 06:51 PM) *
Mulims in India should be happy they're allowed to stay, period. After all the violence and riots they've caused. Muslims are the biggest threat to modern civilization. thumbsdown.gif


I don't care what others say, but I have to admit that Islam is a threat to many people. I fully agree with you NewGitamrta202. So many nations let them come into their borders and many of them only wish to stir up trouble, such as in France for example.

I can't see the religion itself being peaceful, many of its followers may be perhaps but I feel that the religion deep down in its core is extremely violent and intolerant. Didn't the prophet Muhammed and his followers kick out and mistreat the followers of other religions in Mecca and Medina as the religion was being founded? icon_neutral.gif

I have to say that I am very afraid of Islam, I don't want to be, but I am. There are far too many Muslim fanatics and radicals out there who would be oh too happy to get ahold of Pakistan's nuclear weapons for instance and kill them some "inferior" Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc. Muslims want others to convert or die, its that simple. thumbsdown.gif
Suijen
^ Couldn't you say the same thing about Christians?
tinman01
QUOTE (Suijen @ Mar 12 2006, 07:39 PM) *
^ Couldn't you say the same thing about Christians?

All religions and ideologies have fanatics. In the USa go to a prodemocrat town wearing anything republican. Go observe a union on strike. Baptists attacking abortion doctors.
When 911 happened there were muslims out in the streets celebrating. Now that was just sick. I couldn't imagine intentionally moving somewhere that I hated so much. Doesn't make sence.
If the Muslim fanatics in India are that unhappy why dont they just move to a muslim country? The same with any fanatics. Why cause so much hate and discontent? Why butcher women and children? Its bad enough when women and children are victims in war but to target them specifically no matter what your faith that has to be the worst of sins.
lilbuggy
QUOTE (rahul1000 @ Mar 12 2006, 07:50 PM) *
I don't care what others say, but I have to admit that Islam is a threat to many people. I fully agree with you NewGitamrta202. So many nations let them come into their borders and many of them only wish to stir up trouble, such as in France for example.

I can't see the religion itself being peaceful, many of its followers may be perhaps but I feel that the religion deep down in its core is extremely violent and intolerant. Didn't the prophet Muhammed and his followers kick out and mistreat the followers of other religions in Mecca and Medina as the religion was being founded? icon_neutral.gif

I have to say that I am very afraid of Islam, I don't want to be, but I am. There are far too many Muslim fanatics and radicals out there who would be oh too happy to get ahold of Pakistan's nuclear weapons for instance and kill them some "inferior" Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc. Muslims want others to convert or die, its that simple. thumbsdown.gif


rahul1000, you are absolutely correct! Muhammad, was a terrorist, pedeophile, murderer and rapist. So it's natural for the Muslims(cult of Muhammad) to follow in his footsteps. Muslims find cause for their behavior in their scripture, which sanctions violence of every kind. Islam itself is the cause of Islamic terrorism.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina50827p2.htm

How can this be done? It is by convincing Muslims that Islam is false, or even casting doubt on their faith. I am offering $50,000 dollars to anyone who can prove Muhammad was a messenger of God. Let me better it. You don't have to prove that he was a prophet to get this money. I even give it to anyone who can prove that Muhammad was not a criminal. I have proven that Muhammad was a thief, an assassin, a lecher, a plunderer, a pedophile, a rapist, a treacherous liar who broke his treaties and committed other crimes. Far from being a saintly prophet, he was a monster. These are not light charges. Prove me wrong and I will remove my site. I will announce publicly that I was wrong and I will give you $50,000 dollars as reward. This is my challenge. There are over a billion Muslims and not a single one of them has been able to take this challenge and win. What this tells you?

No muslim has ever stepped forward to disprove these charges! I wonder why? embarassedlaugh.gif2

Prophet Of Doom

Fruit Of Islam in action

Learn about Islam through pictures icon_twisted.gif

Islamic child rearingnono.gif

Children in Islam
Parental love is instinctive both in animals and in humans. These pictures are to show the level of brainwashing that it takes to make a parent harm and mutilate his own toddler to appease his imaginary deity.


Palestinian Islamic Jihad being instilled in Islamic "baby boomers"


A loving father teaching "religious values" to his son, Islamic way.


A Shiite mother rejoices after inflicting wounds on the head of her toddler


Stoning in Islam


Women in the Quran thumbsdown.gif

Hijab and women in Islam

"A woman is like a private part. When she goes out the devil casts a glance at her"

Al-Hadis, trans. Al-Haj Maulana Fazlul Karim, vol. 2, p. 692, from Mishkat al-Masabih, by Waliuddin Abu Abdullah Mahmud Tabrizi





Pedophilia and Pederasty
(see link)
Quran 52:24 Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.

Also in Surah 76:19 Allah promises fresh youths to Muslim men.

And round about them shall go youths never altering in age; when you see them you will think them to be scattered pearls.


Muslims rejoice in the suffering of others



Palestinians rejoice after hearing about the September 11



Video of Palestinians rejoice after hearing about the September 11
tinman01
QUOTE (lilbuggy @ Mar 12 2006, 08:26 PM) *
rahul1000, you are absolutely carrect! Muhammad, was a terrorist, pedeophile, murderer and rapist. So it's natural for the Muslims(cult of Muhammad) to follow in his footsteps. Muslims find cause for their behavior in their scripture, which sanctions violence of every kind. Islam itself is the cause of Islamic terrorism.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina50827p2.htm

How can this be done? It is by convincing Muslims that Islam is false, or even casting doubt on their faith. I am offering $50,000 dollars to anyone who can prove Muhammad was a messenger of God. Let me better it. You don't have to prove that he was a prophet to get this money. I even give it to anyone who can prove that Muhammad was not a criminal. I have proven that Muhammad was a thief, an assassin, a lecher, a plunderer, a pedophile, a rapist, a treacherous liar who broke his treaties and committed other crimes. Far from being a saintly prophet, he was a monster. These are not light charges. Prove me wrong and I will remove my site. I will announce publicly that I was wrong and I will give you $50,000 dollars as reward. This is my challenge. There are over a billion Muslims and not a single one of them has been able to take this challenge and win. What this tells you?

No muslim has ever stepped forward to disprove these charges! I wonder why? embarassedlaugh.gif2

WOW can't wait to see how this turns out.
chynagongju
QUOTE (lilbuggy @ Mar 12 2006, 07:26 PM) *
rahul1000, you are absolutely carrect! Muhammad, was a terrorist, pedeophile, murderer and rapist. So it's natural for the Muslims(cult of Muhammad) to follow in his footsteps. Muslims find cause for their behavior in their scripture, which sanctions violence of every kind. Islam itself is the cause of Islamic terrorism.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina50827p2.htm

How can this be done? It is by convincing Muslims that Islam is false, or even casting doubt on their faith. I am offering $50,000 dollars to anyone who can prove Muhammad was a messenger of God. Let me better it. You don't have to prove that he was a prophet to get this money. I even give it to anyone who can prove that Muhammad was not a criminal. I have proven that Muhammad was a thief, an assassin, a lecher, a plunderer, a pedophile, a rapist, a treacherous liar who broke his treaties and committed other crimes. Far from being a saintly prophet, he was a monster. These are not light charges. Prove me wrong and I will remove my site. I will announce publicly that I was wrong and I will give you $50,000 dollars as reward. This is my challenge. There are over a billion Muslims and not a single one of them has been able to take this challenge and win. What this tells you?

No muslim has ever stepped forward to disprove these charges! I wonder why? embarassedlaugh.gif2

All these comments could easily be applied to Christianity. "Prove Jesus was immaculately conceived." "Prove that he's God's son." And so forth.

Anyways, I have tons of Muslim and Hindu friends, and they're friends with each other too. I really don't see the problem.

It's very ignorant to blame all Muslims for the actions of SOME radicals.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Mar 11 2006, 01:21 AM) *
I was just wondering about this subject. It came up recently when I was talking to my friends. One [Indian Muslim] said that she couldn't tell anyone about her bf because he's Hindu. Then my other friend [Indian Hindu] gasped really loudly. She kind of explained that Hindus and Muslims can't be together and that it's taboo and everything.

What I don't understand is..why?



I will make it simple for you from my POV.


Historical/Religious conflicts in the past
Parents passing on their views to their kids, and the kids after that, etc
Cultural differences



It's basically the same reasons why other ethnicities/nationalities/races hate each other. When I used to live in AL, there were blacks and whites that hated each other for the same reasons above. A white/black couple was taboo down there.

I also see some tension between SE Asians/East Asian on this forum, although I'm not too educated as to why that is. Does this just have to do with superiority complexes and competition?


But, I don't think it's a bad thing to want to be with your own kind. It's human nature to be attracted to someone with some similarities to you.
chynagongju
QUOTE (ExpressYourself @ Mar 12 2006, 07:34 PM) *
I will make it simple for you from my POV.
Historical/Religious conflicts in the past
Parents passing on their views to their kids, and the kids after that, etc
Cultural differences
It's basically the same reasons why other ethnicities/nationalities/races hate each other. When I used to live in AL, there were blacks and whites that hated each other for the same reasons above. A white/black couple was taboo down there.

I also see some tension between SE Asians/East Asian on this forum, although I'm not too educated as to why that is. Does this just have to do with superiority complexes and competition?
But, I don't think it's a bad thing to want to be with your own kind. It's human nature to be attracted to someone with some similarities to you.

Makes sense.

Tension between SEAsians and NEAsians is mostly only on this forum. There are tons of intermarried couples IRL. There are a lot of Chinese/Vietnamese marriages for sure.
tinman01
QUOTE (rahul1000 @ Mar 12 2006, 06:50 PM) *
I don't care what others say, but I have to admit that Islam is a threat to many people. I fully agree with you NewGitamrta202. So many nations let them come into their borders and many of them only wish to stir up trouble, such as in France for example.

I can't see the religion itself being peaceful, many of its followers may be perhaps but I feel that the religion deep down in its core is extremely violent and intolerant. Didn't the prophet Muhammed and his followers kick out and mistreat the followers of other religions in Mecca and Medina as the religion was being founded? icon_neutral.gif

I have to say that I am very afraid of Islam, I don't want to be, but I am. There are far too many Muslim fanatics and radicals out there who would be oh too happy to get ahold of Pakistan's nuclear weapons for instance and kill them some "inferior" Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc. Muslims want others to convert or die, its that simple. thumbsdown.gif

After 911 muslims took to the streets and celebrated . This happened inside of the USA. There wern't many Americans that didn't feel like paying them a visit with some of our privately owned guns. I'm glad we didn't but the urge was there. No matter where you are born, or live celebrating the deaths of innocent people is shameful and rude. The muslims fanatics won't be content until Iether they convert the entire world or kill all nonbelievers. But even then it won't be enough. Because you have different sects that can't get along. Sheites and sunnies. etc.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Mar 12 2006, 09:35 PM) *
Makes sense.

Tension between SEAsians and NEAsians is mostly only on this forum. There are tons of intermarried couples IRL. There are a lot of Chinese/Vietnamese marriages for sure.



Oh okay...Well, who knows...in other parts of the world, Hindu/Muslim marriages may be acceptable.

This Hindu guy from NJ said that there was no Muslim/Hindu tension in his city, but that could be because South Asians made up a tiny minority.

When you live with a LOT of South Asians, people can start dividing themselves based on religion, nationality, regional ethnicity and even caste.


The good thing about living in Alabama was that Indians didn't care about what part of India you were from or what caste/ethnicity you were.

Here in Chicago, I see people argue over stupid crap like that.
chynagongju
QUOTE (ExpressYourself @ Mar 12 2006, 07:38 PM) *
Oh okay...Well, who knows...in other parts of the world, Hindu/Muslim marriages may be acceptable.

This Hindu guy from NJ said that there was no Muslim/Hindu tension in his city, but that could be because South Asians made up a tiny minority.

When you live with a LOT of South Asians, people can start dividing themselves based on religion, nationality, regional ethnicity and even caste.
The good thing about living in Alabama was that Indians didn't care about what part of India you were from or what caste/ethnicity you were.

Here in Chicago, I see people argue over stupid crap like that.

That's funny. Because I'm in Chicago too.
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Suijen
It strikes me as fake. These signs are so lame.
lilbuggy
How do they seem fake? confused.gif

Are they fake because you're muslim? embarassedlaugh.gif2
chynagongju
QUOTE (lilbuggy @ Mar 12 2006, 08:23 PM) *
How so they seem fake? confused.gif

Are they fake because you're muslim? embarassedlaugh.gif2

Suijen is not Muslim.
lilbuggy
OK, don't get offended! I didn't mean it in a bad way! icon_neutral.gif
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chynagongju
Do not double post pleae.
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tinman01
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Mar 12 2006, 08:33 PM) *
All these comments could easily be applied to Christianity. "Prove Jesus was immaculately conceived." "Prove that he's God's son." And so forth.

Anyways, I have tons of Muslim and Hindu friends, and they're friends with each other too. I really don't see the problem.

It's very ignorant to blame all Muslims for the actions of SOME radicals.

Very true. A radical is dangerous reguardless of the ideology. Muslems are apart from most however because they tend to support thier radicals publicly as well as providing refuge.
If I hang around with criminals and people see me is it unreasonable for them to assume that I am also a criminal? I may be a very honest man, never broke any laws in my life but my friends do. Guilt by association. Not always fair or just but not without merit.
If I tolerate criminal behavior in my friends It can be said that I am little better.
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