There was once an Aryan migration in Europe to Asia.
When they did, they intermarried with asians.
From what I see so far, it's mostly Hmong people with blond hair.


Note: Aryans are a tribe of white people in Central Europe along time ago.

Note: Buddha was said to have been an Aryan descent too.

white supremacy yo!

Well its not just hmong pple that due be having some that have blond and blue eye kids. Alot of Asians in Asia. It due to malnutirin and lack of nutrian and vitems ... etc. Don't get enough. But yeahs there might as well been mix with other races aswell. and every two three generation one pops out of the tree or blood line. MAybe mix ... ???

That's interesting. I've also read something similar to that in a book on Hmong history, but I just find it hard to believe...That's just weird man.

TO SCARR: GET REAL, lack of nutritions , look at people in North Korea, mann, they're starving to death. They don't have cases of blond and blue eyes, or in China, where people are so hungry, they're cases of CANNIBALISM.

My dad is really light brown hair and I have blue eyes... [contacts] LOL!

Aryans?!? They're an ancient civilization who once lived and ruled much of India...especially in the Indus River Valley.

Hmmm...I guess that's one theory that could explain for some Hmong being blond haired and blue eyed.

Could be from Northern Asia also. Or also from Western Colonialization of Asia.

lots of asians near the Russian border are mixed with caucasion blood

I seen that doll from your sig in "Eastern Condors"

I've seen alot of hmong people with blond hair and blue eyes...and they are just the same as the black hair and brown eyes....

I dont see why they'd be any different

But then again, yeah, I kinda see what ur saying...their appearance at first usually throws ya off cuz u dont normally see it everyday..

my younger sister and I have dirty blonde hair..too bad our eyes are not blue, they're hazel...damn...if only i had inherited the blue eyes also..that'll be pretty..

my gf told me that her sister had blondish hair when she was young, it wasn't due to genetics but rather to hunger, she was born during the SEAsian Wars. and she said she got albino hmong relatives...but albinism occurs in every race.

i don't think it's the nutrition for hmong because there are quite a bit of hmong in america who are well-nutritioned who are blond/brown/red hair. even the mothers were healthy before and during the pregnancy and the child still had different color hair. out of all the hmong with blond/brown/red hair that i've seen (which is a pretty good amount), i only saw one with blue eyes...everyone else had brown eyes.

i was born with blondish-brown hair. my mom was healthy during and before pregnancy and i was born in america. so nutrition was definitely not a factor in my situation. also i have brown eyes so no albino here. i have to say that it was geneitcs. my dad had an aunt and uncle with blondish-red hair and my mom had a second cousin with red hair. in my situation it was definitely genetics.

it's a recessive allele that both parents have to have had for it to occur. which could have been from mutation or mixing with other race.

I remember reading something about that a while back.

Btw, I dont think you can get blond hair and blue eyes from malnutrition.

Whoever had it down about malnutrition is extremely
People in China are starving and eating people they dont have caseses of blondness

Yeap...and Hmong kids born today in America still get light hair...(no, not from mixing with Miskas tho )

hey, perhaps not to due to aryan admixture, but australoid mixture. did you guys know that there some australian aborigine tribes that have blonde hair?

its could also be from mixing with central asians, who are mostly single asian guys (huns, turks, etc...) who went west and established muslim nations... a few may have come back... u never know...

Yep, here in good ol' georgia, Koreans are the dominant Asians. i've seen some Koreans with the natural blond hair blue eyes here too. *sigh* reminds me of being back home.

I think some hmong who have different traits suchs as blond hair blue eyes etc. is due to albino or genetics. I was watching the history channel and there was this one guy who traced this genetic through his blood line and this guy was from france. What he found out that his blood line went all the way to Northern Russian to a little tribe all the Chichus (sumthing like that), then this one guy in Africa had his blood line, this one guy in India and finally to asian to this one guy in the Country of Kazanistan (part of Asia). but yah.. so when you think of it, A lot of southeast asian countries were colonized by the European countries so maybe for some reason something happened and u still have those genes! But yah........ history explains everything not due to malnutrition. The only thing that malnutrition does is that it effects you such as in height, strength, etc.. not the color or ur eyes/hair.

what? <_<

um...even if it existed, it would be too rare to consider a korean trait, and are you sure they didn't just dye their hair and wear contacts? that's fashionable for koreans/japanese/etc.

anyway, i hate these kinds of threads no matter where they pop up. it's one thing when it comes to mongolians because you can see it much more visibly, but when it comes to hmong and koreans who are predominantly mongoloid looking (no widespread visible trace of "aryan" blood), grasping for aryan linkage is ridiculous

I agree, lots of Europeans settled in SE Asia back in the day. Because of the of the idea of turning all the pagans in the area into God-loving Christians, many of them went into areas that a normal person would not have like in the highlands where there were many Hmongs. Some of the genes for light hair and eyes may have come from that encounter. Never heard about the Aryans and their direct involvement with Hmongs, but since they were in the area at some point, it is likely that some of those genes were thrown in the Hmong gene pool. As for nutrition, it can affect hair and eyes. Lacking in nutrition can lead to the problems which can include pigmentation which can affect hair and eyes, but I think that genetics account more for the difference.

Can you guys post some pics of these blonde/red haired Hmong?

Yes I'm sure it was natural. She was an old lady and her kids were the same way too. Also I didn't say it was a Korean trait, I just said that trait runs in other Asians too. I honestly think they're albinos, where they lack some sort of pigmentation.

some times i think it's genetics and sometimes i think it's just albinism...cause there's a teacher in my school and he's had a nice life, but he's albino...i'm not really sure what top think of this anymore...hmp..

isnt Aryan are white power supremacy in state prison..... who the hell mix with these fawker.... i fawk these Aryan brother all the time... hahaha.... if u live in northern north of cali u sure hate white power like me ......

Really now, I thought by now most Hmong people would know the origin of hmong people, especially the younger people! But categorizing hmong people born with blonde hair and blue eyes as albinos? FYI: Hmong people originally had blonde hair, blue eyes. It was only after we mixed with other asian races, mainly that of Chinese when we lost to them who knows how long ago, that we began to have the black hair and brown eyes because the gene for dark hair and eyes is more dominant then the gene for blonde hair and blue eyes. My sister was born with white-blonde hair, my cousin was born with straw-like blonde hair, and I knew a family in which ALL the sons had blonde hair except for the daughter. I think despite our history, most older hmong people like our parents, tend to think that the mom had an affair and that is why the kid is born with blonde hair or blue eyes. It's harder to convince the older generation about this, because no one likes being wrong. But yeah, if you don't believe me, do your own researching before calling other people albino.

asian originally dont had blonde hair and blue eyes and that apply to hmong too. just cause some had it doesnt mean it's originally, otherwise most of us should had blond hair and blue eyes.

What the hell?!



So what are Hmong's true origins then? Aryans?

you guys even know what aryans are? they are iranians!!! they don't have blue eyes and blonde hair!

Aryan (/ɑːrjən/) is an English language word derived from the Iranian and Sanskrit terms ari-, arya-, ārya-, and/or the extended form aryāna-. Beyond its use as the ethnic self-designation of the Proto-Indo-Iranians, the meaning "noble/spiritual" has been attached to it in Persian and Sanskrit. In linguistics, it is sometimes still used in reference to the Indo-Iranian language family, but it is primarily restricted to the compound Indo-Aryan, the Indic subgroup of the Indo-Iranian branch.


you guys are using the nazi ww2 definition of aryan which doesn't even exist!!!

what the fu-k!?!?!

this thread is SO MISLEADING!



yes , they use the WW2 Nazi definition of "aryan" that was fabricated. It's supposed to be a superior caucasoid race with blue eyes and blonde hair. These fools in here do not know anything their talking about. Theres no such thing as a superior aryan race ... its fu-king propaganda bull $hit.

mongolians have that too ... but i dont think they're albino

http://www.csuchico.edu/~cheinz/syllabi/as...39;swebpage.htm

Between 704 - 223 BC, the great Hmong kingdom of Chu existed in Yunnan. During a war that lasted two hundred years the great kingdom fell to Chinese rule and China was united. All known Hmong books were burned and those who dared use the Hmong language were punished by death. Another genocide campaign ensued. Hmong of those days are said to have had blonde hair and blue eyes, which was how they were easily pinpointed and killed. (Interestingly enough, there are many blonde-haired Hmong today). Hmong history was preserved onto pictorial quilts, known as pang dao, as they continued to flee in order to preserve their culture and freedom. Found on http://www.thaitourism.com/articles/04_04_1.asp

And in response to Hmong_til_I_Die, did I not say that the gene for darker hair and eyes is more dominant then the gene for blonde hair and blue eyes? It's something you learn in school, there's even a chart, so if a hmong guy screws a blonde hair blue eyed girl, chances are their kid is going to have the darker traits of the father and not the mother.

It's just my belief that hmong people really did originally have the blonde hair and blue eyes, only after we mixed with the chinese and other asian races that have black hair and brown eyes that we too began to have the black hair and brown eyes. Our blonde hair and blue eye traits are now recessive, and only in rare cases will any hmong kids be born with those traits. So those of you who don't believe what I believe, go ahead and believe that they're albinos.

But any way, I found a picture

Aryans ARE whites. But they did not have blonde hair or blue eyes. It is the Nordic or the Germanic people that mostly had the blonde hair and blue eyes, and also some Slavs. Hitler used the term Aryan for the Germanic people.

Hmongs ain't Aryans.

??? i didn't read everything here. i only read the one i reply to only. if hmong really had those traits there should be more blond hair and blue eyes than what we had so far. so far i only seen 2 with natural blond hair but no blue eye. one was my cuzing(still a couple year old) and that one girl that live in Fresno when i was little. well that's it.

Yeah hmong people could be from siberia. ancient hmong tales tell of a place thats night half of the day and light half of the day. and there was snow. theres no snow in laos . so we could be white.

i'm white (lee), my wife is green (kue). we got our first kid in june 05. he is blonde with brown eyes. we both have black hair. he is healthy as any kid can be. my wife is healthy as can be. i am healthy as can be. now this happened because of a recesive gene. i don't know jack about genes and heredity stuff but my wife's first cousin's daughter is blonde. both parents have black hair. she has a first cousin, he is blonde (both parents have black hair). i have a cousin whose kids (7 kids) all have blonde hair except for him and his wife.
now this has nothing to do with being unhealthy or healthy. doctors thought my son could be half albino, but i was sure he wasn't. test came out that he isn't albino.. of course.

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Yay! More pictures! What a cute baby!! But yeah, I think some people don't understand a thing about recessive genes. I guess they don't teach that in high school any more.

there are tons of blondes in China. it's just not boasted or talked about. majority of the kids born with blonde/red hair turn dark as they grow older. it's depigmentation, has nothing to do with mixing with whites, but there are also a lot of chinese with caucasian ancestry.

FYI: Aryan was a tribe originally from northern Persia. They were never in Europe. Ask any Iranian, s/he will tell you that Aryan was an ancient tribe of Persia but blended in with the rest of the Persians. They were an Indo-European language speaking Caucasian tribe of varying pigments but they are not Germanic, Slavic, or Anglo. Hitler used this term wrongfully to claim something ridiculous.

^ exactly about the last part. hitler stole and warped a lot of things and a lot of ppl today have no clue about it

btw, I do have a hmong friend who in his baby pictures had blonde hair..and yep it apparently got darker as he grew

now we have stupid gangs like "aryan brotherhood" which is a kiddie ver. of kkk ..idiots

It's not totally far-fetched. Maybe the reason why the phenotype isn't very pronounced is because of genocide. It's pretty sad.


The Caucasian origin of the Hmong is suggested by the fact that, within living memory, many Hmong had Caucasian features. Father F. M. Savina of the Paris Society for Foreign Missions, published a book, Historie des Miao, in 1924. He said, "In appearance, [the Hmong are] pale yellow in complexion, almost white, their hair is often light or dark brown, sometimes even red or 'corn-silk blond', and a few even have pale blue eyes." Unfortunately, this has often caused the Hmong to be singled out for genocide. Hmongs relate how Chinese would come down and kill white babiesb. Today the Caucasian features are rarely obvious. Genocide and persecution are the reasons that most Hmong fled China for Vietnam.

http://www.vnpeoples.org/Hmong/history.htm

Hahahhahaha Hmongs trying soo hard to claim affiliation with a higher more known group .. its pathetic really...

btw, i knew this albino hmong girl that had actual natural blonde hair .. her eyelashes were blonde too .. some of you from stockton might know her .. her name be yer Lor

EDIT: i know two yer lors, so the blonde one, not molly's or chinou's sister

look mother rucker, i live in stockton too watch urself, anyways, i brought this topic up. and it ain't trying to measure up to others,, ruckhead....

it's tryin to find our freakin roots tahts been all burned up.


anyways, this was what i really wanted to post....
along with all the others who have their own opinion, they know it's just speculations.


but this is what i think...
Hmongs have always been living in China.
We mixed with some Cauasian tribes of those that moved from Europe or the middleeast into India then China.
Thus, to us hmongs, we have the recessive trait of blond blue eyes sometimes. that is for some of us.

Alright....now don't think hmongs r the only asians out there with this trait, Mongols used to ride from asia to europe and vice versa. they intergrated, that goes for indians in india, and Chinese people living in the Western China as well,

Hell, the Xiongnu, ((Mongol)) some at least are said to have looked white in Chinese records.,

Umm no the Aryans are actually the Iranians/North Indians not those blond haired/blue eyed Nordics from Europe. White supremacists during the 19th century stole the word and changed the meaning

Aryan Brotherhood a kiddie gang? KKK is nothing compared to these guys. Aryan Brotherhood is just the some of all white supremacist groups. In prison, it's a stand alone gang that includes every white inmate.

This thread is so wrong it is full of ignorance. I think that the topic starter really doesn't have any knowledge of the subject. Aryan is not a type of people. Aryan is only a derived English word from Sanskrit word "Arya".

The word "Arya" means "Noble", is used for the people having good or noble behaviour/deeds. Arya is also used to refer to a guest (a guest is treated with a lot of respect) or for someone of high status just like "Sir" in english. Aryan is essentially a linguistic rather than a racial category.



Totally rubbish. Europeans were never able to prove from where in Europe or elsewhere these so called Aryans came from. The people of India more specifically the North Indians and Iranians are the real Aryans. But Aryan is more suitable to describe a group of languages (Indo-Iranian languages) rather than a type of people.

I see somebody's been on Wikipedia, okay, mabe Aryans were missinterrupted, never the less, cauasians in asia they were.

Good research