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StephenDedalusFromAsia
Ayu is like Madonna. She consistently changes her looks.



I like the look she had in the MV "Appears" where she had long brown hair and the cowboy hat.

I also like her short light sassy hair in "Evolution"



I liked how she winked and made funny cute expressions.
n4ce12
I would hit that
bumb1ebee
I haven't seen all of her different looks but I really love this one:

Jaimu-Jaimu
I thought this was going to be simply "Before or after surgery?" embarassedlaugh.gif
skepticguy
Ya know, I've never found her attractive. And I can't place my finger on exactly why.
StephenDedalusFromAsia
QUOTE (Jaimu-Jaimu @ Mar 16 2006, 01:26 PM) *
I thought this was going to be simply "Before or after surgery?" embarassedlaugh.gif


She's never had plastic surgery.

hater sure.gif

I <3 Ayu
Jasel
That bug-eyed crackhead fairy look she has sometimes.

Oh wait. She always has that look. Not a fan of her constantly goofy changing appearances, but I do like some of her songs.

Anyway I guess the pic with the rose looks the best out of the ones shown in this thread. And I could have sworn I've read somewhere that girl has had a decent amount of plastic surgery.
Jarhier
QUOTE (skepticguy @ Mar 16 2006, 12:28 PM) *
Ya know, I've never found her attractive. And I can't place my finger on exactly why.


meh..same.
Jaimu-Jaimu
QUOTE (StephenDedalusFromAsia @ Mar 16 2006, 06:31 PM) *
She's never had plastic surgery.

hater sure.gif

I <3 Ayu


I don't hate her. bawling.gif
She has had surgery though. embarassedlaugh.gif
StephenDedalusFromAsia
QUOTE (Jasel @ Mar 16 2006, 01:39 PM) *
That bug-eyed crackhead fairy look she has sometimes.

Oh wait. She always has that look. Not a fan of her constantly goofy changing appearances, but I do like some of her songs.

Anyway I guess the pic with the rose looks the best out of the ones shown in this thread. And I could have sworn I've read somewhere that girl has had a decent amount of plastic surgery.


Maybe a nose job, but many Japanese have sharp noses. Her eyes are natural. There's no surgery to actually make your eyes bigger. The eyelids yes, but not the eyes itself. She has those weird skin creases above her eyes, and with makeup, can give the illusion of being ridiculously large.

People don't understand the wonders of professional makeup. Your nose can look much sharper by putting a linear shine down the nose.
Boku_WA!
saying she never had plastic surgery is like saying paris hilton never had sex.
Takashi
Nobody knows for definite whether shes had surgery or not, I suspect she has though.
StephenDedalusFromAsia
Then what did she have exactly??

It's not eyelid surgery. You can't get those unusual multifold creases by surgery. Those are natural.

Haters.
LOVEWHIZ
why you guys care about surgeries so much, if she didnt who cares, if she did oh well big deal! dont be jealous becasue someone else is beautiful embarassedlaugh.gif
Takashi
QUOTE (StephenDedalusFromAsia @ Mar 16 2006, 07:16 PM) *
Then what did she have exactly??

It's not eyelid surgery. You can't get those unusual multifold creases by surgery. Those are natural.

Haters.

Am I surgery expert?
She looks very different now to when she was younger.
StephenDedalusFromAsia
Well, I'm not a plastic surgery expert, but I do know eyelids like hers cannot be artificially created.

I look very different since I was younger. Your nose sharpens as you age.

Makeup, aging, false eyelashes, dyed hair can make anyone dramatically different.
Takashi
QUOTE (StephenDedalusFromAsia @ Mar 16 2006, 07:30 PM) *
Well, I'm not a plastic surgery expert, but I do know eyelids like hers cannot be artificially created.

I look very different since I was younger. Your nose sharpens as you age.

Makeup, aging, false eyelashes, dyed hair can make anyone dramatically different.

Multifolds?

Obviously, but she looks too different
supernovasp
QUOTE (Takashi @ Mar 16 2006, 03:13 PM) *
Multifolds?

Obviously, but she looks too different

Yea she has like 3x folds or something

I love this look of her

http://ayumi.primenova.com/cdscans/cdscans...aladdress06.jpg
StephenDedalusFromAsia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eKXRjBgDKs...yumi%20hamasaki

Here's a Youtube of her performing in her younger days. I don't think she got surgery at all.
blob
I love her, she's a great composer, including of her major hits such as M, Evolution, Free and Easy, etc. She's not conventional like some of the Jpop singers too, which i think is great. Definately has rock influence in alot of her songs biggthumpup.gif


Her childhood photos:




Sometimes she looks strange in airbrushed/photoshopped photoshoots, but she doesn't look so 'alien-like' as some people say when you see her live (in motion).

Here are some






StephenDedalusFromAsia
yeah, she has those big eyelids and sharp nose. They develop even more as you age, and make up accentuates it even more.


down with the haterz. icon_sad.gif
blob
QUOTE (StephenDedalusFromAsia @ Mar 17 2006, 01:16 PM) *
yeah, she has those big eyelids and sharp nose. They develop even more as you age, and make up accentuates it even more.
down with the haterz. icon_sad.gif


Yeah i hate how people compare a terrible picture of her (and we KNOW we all have those hideous ones in our past) with an extremely photoshopped one.
Either that, or they compare two pictures where her expression is entirely different (e.g one laughing and the other staring).

Anyhow, i have a feeling this thread will be soon have Ayu-bashers embarassedlaugh.gif
Always happens, which is why i tend to stay on Ayu forums if i wanted to discuss her in a civilised manner embarassedlaugh.gif

QUOTE (LOVEWHIZ @ Mar 17 2006, 06:16 AM) *
why you guys care about surgeries so much, if she didnt who cares, if she did oh well big deal! dont be jealous becasue someone else is beautiful embarassedlaugh.gif


True embarassedlaugh.gif
toki
QUOTE (StephenDedalusFromAsia @ Mar 16 2006, 08:16 PM) *
yeah, she has those big eyelids and sharp nose. They develop even more as you age, and make up accentuates it even more.
down with the haterz. icon_sad.gif

a sharp nose. but her nose hooks downward. i thought it was one of the most unattractive features on her.
toki
QUOTE (lclover @ Mar 16 2006, 09:39 PM) *
omg I HAVE a nose that looks downwards! bawling.gif bawling.gif

:-P

imo it's not unattractive really. cos it's sharp and high, and it's SMALL<--the key.
therefore depending on the angle you won't really be able to notice it sometimes.

ps I totally agree with blob on her composing skills.
however one thing about her which IS typical jpopo is the squeaky cutesy voice :S

but the songs and vids make up for it

its ok if a guy has it. yeah her nose is small i guess. but unshapely. i dunno. i put a high importance on noses confused.gif embarassedlaugh.gif her nose sorta reminds me of a monkeys for some reason confused.gif singers like mika are a lot prettier than her.
blob
Mika looks kind of bland without all those high tech photoshopping IMO.

Anyhow, Ayu's nose isn't small. It's normal size for an Asian. I don' thnk it points downwards either.
SsangOhChill
Ayumi Hamasaki produces absolutely generic, run-of-the-mill Japanese bubblegum pop with some rock and techno influences. I thought you guys had better, more than lowbrow taste. nono.gif
Zezei
since I found out she writes he music by herself, lyrics and music, I have a lot more respect for her.

her songs, the instrumentals and the lyrics are pretty good.


'M'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T4v194ZAY8&search=Ayumi%20M


'Memorial Address'

this song actually made me feel emotional eek.gif or it was actually her performance, and there were english subs, really nice lyrics. after this, I was a lot more open towards other Ayumi music. I'm sooo narrowminded at time, stupid me. I could have missed out on a lot of good music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhF4pXxGwtI...yumi%20Memorial



and I like some other songs of her


these two above sound good to me. I even think that her voice was perfectly 'appropiate', it has some raw touch to it. heh, yeah, raw, while so many people think she's so fake and polished and cute. but her voice is actually errm unique.

her music, that is really popular, is a whole lot more 'original' than the pophits that are coming out in the US or UK
Tami
QUOTE (SsangOhChill @ Mar 17 2006, 03:17 PM) *
Ayumi Hamasaki produces absolutely generic, run-of-the-mill Japanese bubblegum pop with some rock and techno influences. I thought you guys had better, more than lowbrow taste. nono.gif

She used to in the beginning when Avex had her on a short leash, but after she became Ayu the megastar she began being herself more, and Avex can't do anything about it. She's also one of the more feministic artists in the male dominated Japanese society. I used to not like Ayu, but the more you get to know her, the more you like her.

Personally, I like her "M" look, and the new dark haired ayu

Jaimu-Jaimu
^ I like her music alot. icon_redface.gif
She should definitely avoid the orange hair though...why do Asian girls do that?
Tami
QUOTE (Jaimu-Jaimu @ Mar 17 2006, 04:43 PM) *
^ I like her music alot. icon_redface.gif
She should definitely avoid the orange hair though...why do Asian girls do that?

You want to know the truth? A lot of Asian girls did it because Ayumi Hamasaki did it. Now that she's gone dark again, a lot of Asian girls are following suit embarassedlaugh.gif2
SantaKlaws
Tami is alive!
sekushii
She looks weird on TV and in 'real life' but she looks very doll-ish and pretty in pictures. I don't think she has had surgery..... but maybe she did. Who cares.

My favorite look is dark haired Ayu! biggrin.gif
xotic_beauty
why does it matter if she's had surgery or not? jealousy? shifty.gif most people would look ugly even after surgery anyways.
StephenDedalusFromAsia
QUOTE (Zezei @ Mar 17 2006, 03:36 PM) *
'Memorial Address'

this song actually made me feel emotional eek.gif or it was actually her performance, and there were english subs, really nice lyrics. after this, I was a lot more open towards other Ayumi music. I'm sooo narrowminded at time, stupid me. I could have missed out on a lot of good music.

her music, that is really popular, is a whole lot more 'original' than the pophits that are coming out in the US or UK


I just watched this, and it made me emotional as well. I just wanted to hug her and tell her it is okay.


Let's see how much you know about Japanese culture Zezei. Why does she say "You became a star, alone"?? icon_smile.gif

Actually, she does copy Madonna alot in her music videos.
VietSk8rGUI
AYUMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!! love2.gif love2.gif hump.gif
Zezei
QUOTE (StephenDedalusFromAsia @ Mar 17 2006, 10:59 PM) *
I just watched this, and it made me emotional as well. I just wanted to hug her and tell her it is okay.
Let's see how much you know about Japanese culture Zezei. Why does she say "You became a star, alone"?? icon_smile.gif

Actually, she does copy Madonna alot in her music videos.



copy? she could have got her inspirations from fashion-magazines, but anyway, her mv's aren't copy's, since they're not exact the same.

so, wearing a white weddingdress is automatically 'copying madonna'? sure, like with Boa 'copying britney spears' cause she shows her belly in her mv.
anyway, she wore a kimono when she performed in Singapore asian music awards.
I never got emotional by madonna's songs. btw, does she write her music herself?

you, guy, got emotional ? eek.gif
Ayumi does have some quality to her, after all. if she can stir up people's emotions with her music and lyrics. aaaaand her voice. yah.

SCREW YOU PEOPLE WHO CAN'T LOOK PAST HER DOLL-LIKE APPEARANCE AND SCREECHY VOICE.

''Let's see how much you know about Japanese culture Zezei. Why does she say "You became a star, alone"?? icon_smile.gif ''


how does this make me know more about Japanese culture embarassedlaugh.gif

it's english for pete's sake embarassedlaugh.gif

it only makes me know more about Ayumi Hamasaki



but the answer is:

her dad whom she never really knew died recently, I think



Why did she cry? I love this song. The english subs are really helpful,
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This song is about her estranged father who died recently. She wrote the song about never hearing from him past age two. It makes me cry as well...
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Oooh, so sad...;-; I love this.
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wth.. WOW.
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lol that "wth" is supposed to be a good or bad wth? O_O hehe.
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Ayumi...*Cries*
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this video is just so touching u really feel what she is *cries*
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bubbles20
^ boa is a real mimic of britney though embarassedlaugh.gif2
and shes alot less original than ayumi
Zezei
hmm, not really. BoA isn't into that sexy/slutty thing.

her korean music is very hippop/pop

her japanese music is very errr pop/jpop

quite different. if the music she makes for two countries is different, then I don't see she could be a copy of Britney.

heard people say Lee Hyori is korea's britney spear, and Utada Hikaru japan's britney spear.

seems like if a female singer is populair in another country she'll get labeled 'britney spears of ...'

Utada Hikaru is noooothing like B(ull)S(hit)
bubbles20
^ she tries to be lke britney minus the sex appeal
her dance move are sometimes very alike
eg my name (i think thats wat its called, i forgot)

i think boa is very unoriginal in comparison to ayumi esp
very typical
from the looks to the music to the style
Zezei
do you know any korean equivalents of Ayumi Hamasaki?
write lyrics and compose the music herself


just curious
bubbles20
i dont listen to all that much korean music so not sure

but im sure there korean singers who compose songs and write lyrics
most seem to be into dancing though
but yeah im sure there are
zee
QUOTE (StephenDedalusFromAsia @ Mar 16 2006, 06:31 PM) *
She's never had plastic surgery.


There's a lot of speculation as to whether or not she had eyelid surgery (this is through people looking at older photos and newer ones).

Whether she has or not, who the hell cares? She was attractive before and still is attractive. Therefore, all is ok.
kennyboy
Ayumi looks really really really small....
how tall is she? 5 feet tall or something?

i feel so guilty wanting to hump her because she has such a small waist which means really tight pu$$y. icon_redface.gif

lol
StephenDedalusFromAsia
Zezei, some of her videos are very, very close to Madonna's.

Examples would be M, which shares the similarities of being inside a church, the dress, the white doves appearing inside the church and flying away.

In "Ourselves," she wears an altered black leather kimono, and does those funny scenes with the two walls beside her. Madonna's "Nothing Really Matters" video has the same composition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U18U1ED_Mk...eally%20matters

"Alterna" with the white makeup and Madonna did that before.


I asked you about the "You turned into a star, alone", because the Japanese believe that when you die, you become a star. Don't you just wish the Chinese had such pretty stories Zezei ?icon_smile.gif
Tav6
QUOTE (LOVEWHIZ @ Mar 16 2006, 03:16 PM) *
why you guys care about surgeries so much, if she didnt who cares, if she did oh well big deal! dont be jealous becasue someone else is beautiful embarassedlaugh.gif



lol not really i don't think she is beautiful.... rather weird looking ...
Zezei
QUOTE (StephenDedalusFromAsia @ Mar 18 2006, 12:06 PM) *
Zezei, some of her videos are very, very close to Madonna's.

Examples would be M, which shares the similarities of being inside a church, the dress, the white doves appearing inside the church and flying away.

In "Ourselves," she wears an altered black leather kimono, and does those funny scenes with the two walls beside her. Madonna's "Nothing Really Matters" video has the same composition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U18U1ED_Mk...eally%20matters

"Alterna" with the white makeup and Madonna did that before.
I asked you about the "You turned into a star, alone", because the Japanese believe that when you die, you become a star. Don't you just wish the Chinese had such pretty stories Zezei ?icon_smile.gif



ok, I believe you. btw, do you know if Madonna writes her music and lyrics herself? just curious.

I was watching a Jolin Tsai video, it's pretty new, I think. I saw something really similar to Mika Nakashima's Seven mv.

I really didn't know about this Japanese story of becoming a star when you die. It's a beautiful story.
And Chinese do have equally beautiful stories.

But hey, how did you learn about it?
StephenDedalusFromAsia
I'm not sure if Madonna does her own stuff or not. Maybe her Wikipeida article might say.

About the star. It comes up in anime all the time. An important character dies, and the main character near the end of the episode cries, looks up to the night skies, one star twinkles, and the main character says, "I know I will be with you again oneday."

icon_wink.gif
Zezei
QUOTE (StephenDedalusFromAsia @ Mar 18 2006, 02:21 PM) *
I'm not sure if Madonna does her own stuff or not. Maybe her Wikipeida article might say.

About the star. It comes up in anime all the time. An important character dies, and the main character near the end of the episode cries, looks up to the night skies, one star twinkles, and the main character says, "I know I will be with you again oneday."

icon_wink.gif




you know more about Japan and definitely watch more anime than I do biggrin.gif

it's definitely a beautiful thought
Miss Yuna (asian pride)
QUOTE (bumb1ebee @ Mar 17 2006, 05:24 AM) *
I haven't seen all of her different looks but I really love this one:




oooh how beautiful is that picture kiss.gif

QUOTE (StephenDedalusFromAsia @ Mar 17 2006, 05:31 AM) *
She's never had plastic surgery.

hater sure.gif

I <3 Ayu



yes she HAS had surgery she's had her nose and eyes done she had surgery to make her eyes look bigger just look at some pictures of her when she was younger her eyes were not like that but she's still really pretty kiss.gif
white_lotus27
I pretty much like Ayumi when she has dark hair.
Sick of seeing her with the fake blondes, it needs to go away. Talktohand.gif
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