Before the Europeans even dreamed about the Silks in China or the Spices in India, the East was full of life and energy. The Scholars, Poets, Philosphers, etc. of the East were far more developed than anything the West ever imagined. When Asia was on top, Europe was still living in the Dark Ages. Only when the Renaissance took place is when the West slowly took our spot at the top.

The economies of China and India are getting stronger by the day and their influence is becoming more and more visible and the West is starting to worry. After centuries of humiliation from Western powers, China and India are slowly ascending to the top again.

Can China and India bring Asia to her glory days again? Will this be "The Asian century"? Or will the West still dominated for a few more centuries? Will Asia lead again or will it continue to play catch up to the West?

Only if we put behind our past will the future look brighter for us. Germany once invaded France. Now they are on the same side. India is trying to cozy up to America b/c of their animosity with China since the sino-indian war. Japan doesn't want asian dominance because they will pay for what they did to asia in the early 20th century. Vietnam doesn't trust china because of 1000 years of rule over vietnam and the sino-vietnamese war. Cambodia doesn't trust vietnam because of the viet-cambodian war of 1979. I'm not asking everyone to forget the past. I'm just asking that we put it behind us for the time being for the welfare of the region. Asia should dominate the world. Not the west.

you know russia can take out china and india right. you know that EU can take out asia(if they really try, but chances are 1/10)

Seriously doubt that.

WAHAHAHAHA Russia????????

ahahahahahahahahahahaha, you made my day man. thank you!

The Cold War era came to an end 15 years ago, and Russia's dominance ended along with it. At present, Russia doesn't stand a chance against China or India. The EU on the other hand is currently more powerful than China and India, but still doesn't stand a chance against the whole of Asia.

You know you're not very bright, don't you?

ummm.....no??


Anyway pretty much every place was thriving before the Europeans had their moment.

According to many predictions, China's economy should overtake the USA in 30-50 years, followed by India a few decades later. As long as the US or EU don't start a war with China or India, this century should be an "Asian century".

^ That's IF current growth rates continue, which I find doubtful for China. Come up, 10% economic growth? That's impressive. It's more likely that the US will drop rather than China overtake the US.

If China can at least maintain a 5-6% average growth rate, then it should overtake the USA within 50 years at most. The USA's growth rate is lower than the world's average growth rate, so its share of the world economy is already declining (but not as fast as the EU).

If lassez-faire was wide spread, we'd all have our glory days. Like someone has pointed out it all depends on global relations. I'm guessing neither the USA or Japan are going down quietly. It's worse when poor countries try to be protectionist. What a bad strategy...


Germany invades France pretty much every century. It's probably invading France right now.

Economical growth is only one side of the CATCHING THE WEST. Other side, i believe you guys know-Asians really fall behind.
Before you guys talk impersonal numbers of your copy-cat developement of Asia (only China and India), you should talk what is best way/ model of developement.
Let's say, China or India did overtake West economicly by producing and copying all of the West.
Then what?
What is your idea of Asian Dominated World? Any answer will be senseless.

Actually there will not be such thing as Asian Glory or Western Dominance in the future. We will talk only about one tiny little planet- EARTH.

Dude, you made no sense in that post.

Off course Asia could rise to glory again but the whites have their own game to play with us.

Totally.

I do worry that if Asia ever dominates the world instead of the west, then asian countries would really start to fight against each other like with China against India and Japan.

Why only china and india...? what about ASEAN countries..? currently they the most dynamic region in the world..

ASEAN as an organistaion is economically strong so its up to the leaders to implement policies.

Too little people, not enough land per each country. I'm worried that India may not have the necessary natural resources to really grow.

Land + resources puts a gap on your country, especially for military growth. Unless of course India is thinking of going the Asian Tiger route and export everything.

A resurgent China and India will both be good for ASEAN in the long run. But we can't compete with either of them individually cos we don't have the economies of scale. Hence the increasing coming together of ASEAN countries. And strategically, ASEAN provides an important counterbalance against a competing China and India.

I totally agree....China and India has no chance without the Asian Tigers of ASEAN They also better watch their backs for other quickly growing economies like these countries...

Philippines- The majority speaks English fluently, I think they have a large potential to be a major power house....Postives ---Large population, gov is somewhat stable, etc... They just need to direct their population to work in growing industries, way too high of unemployment...They also need to abolish most of their povery (WAY too much.)

Thailand- Developing quickly even though the Baht kind of collapsed, It is still more developed than Philippines, Indonesia, and Vietnam...

Malaysia- Almost a fully developed country, I think its cities will all start looking like Singapore...

Singapore- Very rich, very influential, very technological...I even think that it rivals Japan...

Indonesia- They call it the sleeping Tiger, It has a very large population, and they have alot of land for much growth and industry...

Vietnam- Fast growing economy, I believe it will be CHinas next rival for the fastest growing economy +8%

These countries have the economic and political stability to rival CHina and India....But they kind of need to help each other out more


GO ASEAN The pride of ASIA

mmm, China shouldnt be able to beat ASEAN by itself. its one country against how many?

east asia vs south east asia is much fairer.

Lets not turn this thread into a pissing context. Asians need to work together instead of trying to blow each other from the face of the planet. This mentality only feeds into White Man's greater scheme.

Anda, the Asian race is not that far behind the West in terms of technology. China and India has a lot of world class scientist, not to mention a lot of brain power. I say the West is ahead by a mere 10 years, 15 years at the most in terms of "know how".

Anda, you have understand The White Man only make up 15 percent of the World's population and yet causes 90 percent of the World's problem and control half(if not more) of the World's wealth. If this is not greed, then I don't know what is. The Asian race has a different mentality then the White man. We are not hell-bent on conquering the world and imposing our "way of life" on anybody.

If China and Indian wanted to conquer the world, they would have left their borders when they were strong and powerful. See the real attitude of the Asian race is to "live in harmony with nature" not control and exploit nature like the White man.

China is not some big bad guy the West make it out to be. In its long history China have been on the receiving end more than anything else. Sure, China is not perfect, but no counry is. Let me say this, without China the White Man will probably step all over the Asian race like what he is doing right now to the Arabs. Which Asian country out there to "keep face" for the Asian race? You think Japan? You think South Korea?

Look at the Iran-Iraq conflict. The White Man sold weapons to both countries and let both of them fight each now. And look and the end result now. He's thinking of attacking Iran now.

He's doing the same thing with Taiwan and China. India and Pakistan. If we don't think of the ahead, we will let the White Man step all over us again. Enough is Enough.

I'd rather not make this a racial thing. Sounds a bit nazi.

No, it's not a racial thing. It's being real. I'm not pro-China or anti-West, I'm puting things in a broader context.

Just want to say that I agree with you. But maybe instead of saying white, instead say Europeans I guess. Whatever. I just wish we could stop the conflict between India-Pakistan, China-Japan-Korea, etc.

It's understandable to put it in a regional context, but blood shouldn't be an issue for national/international policy. Segregating yourself might have some bad consequences later.

I'm not anti or pro anything i think asian countries needs to be more powerful so that we will balance out with the western powers.

^but first we need the asian countries esp the east asian ones to stand side by side which will take centuries to achieve this goal.

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

All I said was China and India need ASEAN.... Geez I never said anything bad about the "White" Man

China and India had better watch their backs too....the Asian Tigers are stepping up...

GO PHILIPPINES, VIETNAM, SINGAPOR, INDONESIA, MALAYSIA

ASEAN THE PRIDE OF ASIA

Hmmm.
I don't know who you are kid but you definitely sound racist. Perhaps you don't realize how your logic about the "white man" applies among Asians themselves. We all are "different" from your "white man" as you say. Only you've forgot we're different among ourselves as well. Hence your own logic pointing at your hypocrisy.

On a slightly other note, I hear the world needs about 3 globes of resources in order to level its general living standard to that of the U.S. as of now. We might expect all hell to break loose if it goes on this way, unless wise guys like you come up with something more useful than rubbish.

What's up with your name anyway Mister Messiah?

by far this is the dumbest comment i read on this topic............. what is ur IQ by the way..........


satyagraha : there is no greater force in the world than to explain to an enemy in a non
violent manner why he is wrong, this is the power of truth, this is the strenght of truth,
in other words this is satyagraha "truth force".

- Mahatma Gandhi

Asian Tigers are soooooo years ago now its Asia Superpowers thats in Fashion and thats gonna be
China,India and Indonesia.
others can Play being Tigers if they want

I really liked Gandhi,since i read someything about him.And lately i saw movie about him.I,m being crazy about him lol

Am I making things up about the White Man? Most of the world's problem today is caused by the White Man. That's a undeniable fact. Yeah Asians are different, but we have one thing in common, all of us been screwed by the White Man. How did the West become so rich and powerful if it didn't steal and rob other people's resources? And the White Man is doing in right now in the present time. And I'm racist for pointing all of this out?

I fail to see your "problems caused by the white man". Even if you're right, a collective that possesses half of the world's wealth should create naturally half of its problems. And yes, Asians were perfectly peaceful among each other, before the "white man" ascended into power.

Dear anthropologist, please ask yourself who is exploiting the environment more now. And careful to run your mouth helplessly like that where you can't back it up.

This is sarcasm right?

Yes.

HAHAHAHA


Why did you add Indonesia on the List

^because he/she is an Indonesian..

Well.. personally, i think Indonesia gonna be one of the super power.. but it gonna take a very long road before it can becomes one..

it will take 300-500 years before indonesia can become a super power.

hehe this is such an exciting time to be alive. race wars just make my blood tingle!!! i hope the EU does try something against the rising Asian powers!

They can try...hahaha *evil laugh* "GO ASEAN" the pride of Asia

That long? No way. Besides, I HIGHLY, HIGHLY doubt the Earth will even be around/habitable in 100 years what with all the global warming, pollution, threat of nuclear war, etc.

Are you serious?

The end is near. REPENT SINNERS!!

I don't like to be pessimistic, but just look at our situation. Our population keeps growing but our planet doesn't. Our resources will eventually run out such as coal and oil, I hope we can find alternatives quickly that everyone can use, not just the rich. And look at all the nuclear weapons scattered all throughout the world just waiting to be used by some fanatics or war mongerors.

LOL arent most of you asian like NOn Christian (Besides Flips) So ummm...worship buddha or sumthin lol



Totally agree...Except we are in the years of 2000, we are smart and we WILL find a way...

When did I say the Asian race was free from error?

Does exploiting the environment more or less solve any environmental issues?

Let me ask you this, when was the last time the Asian race invaded another country in the name of " spreading Asian values". The last time I checked, it was the Japanese that started sh** during WWII, and they got dealt with according to their bad Karma. But The White Man continue to invade and justify his actions. Look at the "Opium Wars" with China. What in the world did China ever do to England to cause them to start a war with China? No f***ing sh**. The past is the past, but when the White Man continue to sustain this cycle of greed and violence, then there's a problem. It is no different than this current invasion of Iraq . The same old BS excuse to invade another country. The blood shed and lost of innocent lives, for what? Just for the White man's greed.

Who is selling Taiwan weapons and at same time say the support a "one China". Who is saying they are a friend of India but turn around and sell weapons to Pakistan? Do you want me to back it up with evidence? I think it's quite obvious to some of us.

^ It's not a racial issue. The US is one country.

As for the UK like the Japanese have already gotten what was coming to them.