excuse me, I am not talking about dreams. Mongolia was a part of Qin dynasty, that was a fact.



You now more resembles japanese history revisionist that Nanjing rape never happened.

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stop your lyings, you $hithead..

becareful what of your means do you stick on other peoples statements.

where did i tell you that nanking incedent was never happened?

btw.
is that true that chinese invaders and squatters have eat mongolian and kasakh people? (kanibalism)

is that true that chinese squaters have sold mongolian and kasakh wifes into china as slaves?

is that true that chinese squaters have destroed mongolian, kasakh and manchurian art of life and their nature?

is that true that chinese soldiers and squaters have rigth to kill mongolian and kasakh people without to be afraid that chinese state arest them?


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You have some reading comprehension problem. You were said to resemble japanese denying japan's crimes against chinese people.
Tell me how you think there are some chinese forumer who said that he heard there were some raped by soviet soldiers from his grandpa.

please? where have i say it?



tell me how you think there are some russian, dunganian, mongolian, korean, manchurian, tibetian, taiwanese forumers who said that he heard there were some raped by chinese communist and natrionalists from his granpa and himself?

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Your reading comprehension is probably inherited from your grandpa. Being resembled and having said something explicitly is not the same thing.

Now you admit that mongolia was a part of Qin dynasty? I asked this, because you ignored my statement, and tell me I am pseudo historian. I am supposed to say wrong thing, right. please correct me if you can.


I have not heard that yet. I don't think there was mongolians raped by chinese communist. Are there any forumers that they heard from grandpa these things? I doubt it.

what a mogolia? mean you independet republic mogolia or mean you teritories under protectorat of manchurian empire?
or all territories where do life mongolian ethnics?

where i have say that mongolia was not part of manchurian empire?


tell me something about "chinese" siberia and "chinese" russian federation..
you talk here about this territories like they were all time chinese.
and that without chinese people or their influences.

go away, you china imperialist.
i have enougth from your fake facts and "great china" agendas..

But this is a forum for chinese people.
Also, if you think everything I posted is fake, how you justify your claim?
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i know that this forum is for chinese people, but this dont justiy your claim on mongolian and russian territories.

i know that many mongols with chinese citizenship are chinese citizens and chinese nationality(or get they now mongolian nationality acsepted by chinese state?), or do you see them as inferior race and not chinese?

also, if you think everthing you posted is not a fake, how justify your claim?

I sound more credible than you. 2

With so much of your insulting comments, do you feel satisfied now? That's a pretty immature mentality.

what a arrogant dude..

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If that's all you can say, and you seemed to have say already, could you please leave other forumers discussing this issue. You said I am a fake pseudo historian, so be it. Why not give chances to other forumers if they think the same?

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well, you dont need to hide you behind other forumers.

they have own means and can talk self for themselves.

or do you have make you into other forumer voice here?

well, you have a habit of dominating conversation I think for good or bad.

wow.. really?

it must something to do with your postings here..

perhaps because you do question all time only me and not other forumers?

that's not a correct statement, I have asked anyone knowing something regarding the subject on the table.

no it was correct..

you have quote me and you have talk directly to me.

and that is a dialog and not discussion.

it was only for comment, if you took a chance to misread my message.

I don't understand what the chinese AFs trying to prove.
Here are the pictures of Chinese atrocity. It is brutal.
I think you are brave enough to face your own chinese atrocity

Again, as long as the women's case under the judicial court ruled, criminals can be executed.

Soviet soldiers on the other hand shamelessly stole women and gang raped them.

why did someone post those pics again.
mods please....ban that @$$

Are they PLA relular army soldier? Why soldier have to execute?
There is no facilitiy for execution in china like USA, electric chair, or injection?
Taliban= PLA

Looks so bad, very detailed and documented. Do they always kill people like that. What she or those women did wrong, what is on the tablet ?

If someone really feel bad about it, threatened by it.
Better close the thread

well, there we are.. your statement about this fotocolage is more as macaber..

btw. can you tell me where you have found your informations about this "stoled and roped" women?
it can be that someone nationalist or revanshist make simple propaganda with this unproved rumors. (hehe, revange for freedom and manchurian territories)

you want again to make new "forign devil" with your revanchistic agendas.

all is rigth for you, if chinese soldiers have hand shamelessly stole women and gang raped them.

but if one of forigners do it, how shameless!


chinese invaders and squatters have eat mongolian and kasakh people. (kanibalism)

chinese squaters and soldiers have sold mongolian and kasakh wifes into china as slaves and for prostitution.

chinese squaters have destroed mongolian, kasakh and manchurian art of life and their nature.

is that true that chinese soldiers and squaters have rigth to kill mongolian and kasakh people without to be afraid that chinese state arest them?



you have rigth.

That's how you are doing in the states 50 years ago. Why not delete that picture? if mod deletes the thread everytime troll came in. Troll will come again and again to make the forum chaos.

A woman prisoner being taken for her execution after she was sentenced to death at a sentencing rally in Beijing 20 April 2001. Sixteen people were executed in Beijing 20 April, while sentencing rallies and executions were held across the country as part of a nationwide 'strike blackness and wipe out evil' crackdown. (Photo: AFP)

at: ANAND

beronis is so mendacious!

Although you call it troll act, but it relates to your thread. And it is FACT
The picture is real FACT of what is going on in China.
Actually your thread is very chaotic, what you are trying to prove very vague and has no legimate fact like this pictures. Picture says thousand words. Instead of your bla bla bla, why don't you post more facts , pictures

Just ban the troll and delete the picture is enough. Giving them such priviledge by making forum chaos is nevertheless the worst idea.

haha..

i think you love to talk about "stolen and raped woman"?

Perhaps, you should realize that you are trolling now.

Gang raping women, and excute the murderer are two different acts, and you think you can balance the rapes by showing these pictures. Give me a break.

Soviet soldiers even raped women in front of their parents and husbands, how does that brutal behaviour compare to PLA's rightful execution?



Stealing and raping women can be a culture if exercised so often. Japanese did it in Nanjing. But maybe, soviets....

really.. can you prove it all?

that executions are rigthful.
that a exsecuted women was not raped, stolen and killed because she have say not at rape of her by chinese.
that chinese have killed only criminals.
that chinese dont eat mongolian and kashk people.
that chinese dont stoled and raped mongolian and other minorities people. (you know, a storeis who one soldier have killed all mongolian men, children and old people and sold their women into slavery)

i must give you time?

for new unproved rumors and fake pictures?
or need you more time to learn photoshop?

you talk about soviet-mongolian forces like about japanese execute comands in nanking.

sorry, but i dont hear that soviet forces have give orders to kill, rape and stole chinese or some other people.

can you tell me perhaps, where you have found your ideas?

from zündelmeyer? (stupid german nazi and KZ-denier in canada)

Where are your sources? Chinese has no tradition of eating people. However, mongols have....

First of all, those criminals who murdered other people deserve to die. I don’t have sympathies for those criminals. Don’t you want to kill those criminals if they rape and murder your best friends, mothers or girlfriends. Actually criminals executed by shooting is very humane, because criminals die instantly without pain. Just one bullet on you head you die instantly. In USA, if you are a criminals on the dead row, you can die by shooting, electructing, drugging or hanging. On shooting, you die in a second. On electructing, you die in a couple of minutes by electricity with millions of volts running through your bodies. Your body will bloat up like a balloon and explode. You will feel very painful in those minutes when electricity running through your body. On drugging, according to some medical study, you are injected with sleeping liquid first and then they injected two poisonous liquids into you body. Scientists said that is the most painful way to die, because very often those executioners don’t have the medical expertise to handle these situations. They often injected the wrong amount not enough to kill you and you die ratherly slowing and painful in couple of hours. Some people survived the drugging and they said it was hellish Hanging is painful too. They put a goose around your neck and hang you. You will die in an hour, but it is very painful with your neck hanging and you slowly are losing air. Most likely you choke to dead. Don’t let those pictures you saw fooled you.

http://www.stopvaw.org/Kazakhstan.html
The Special Rapporteur on Violence against Women noted in her 2003 report that there were 948 rapes and 138 attempted rapes reported in 2001. Rape is defined in Kazakh laws as sexual intercourse with a female, by physical violence, threats or exploiting the helplessness of the victim. While there is no law that specifically addresses marital rape, it could fall within the scope of this provision. Article 120 of the Criminal Code states that rape is punishable by three to five years' imprisonment. Imprisonment increases incrementally up to fifteen years under aggravating circumstances, such as rape of a juvenile, gang rape, or if the rape results in bodily injuries, venereal disease or victim's suicide. Unless the victim files a complaint or aggravating circumstances exist, prosecutors are unable to initiate rape cases. The U.S. Department of State mentioned that some prosecutors misunderstood this requirement to also mean that rape victims must pay for forensic testing and the costs of prosecution. The International Helsinki Federation stated that until recently, the burden of collecting and submitting evidence had rested on the victim. However, after 12 May 2000, legal reforms now authorize the Ministry of Interior to gather evidence for the victim as part of an investigation. Unless the victim provides a written complaint, the police are unable to detain a suspect for more than 72 hours.

must it ban me? what a $hit "prove" from your side!

and what prove it us?

can you tell me please where you have found something about soviet-mongolian forces in WW2?
you faker!



well, dude if you want i can send you many dungans and south mongolians (they have flee from china in 50'en and 60'en from China into mongolia and south soviet union)

it was very old chinese tradition to send a liver of enemines on his emperior or king. (old animalitic traditon from wild ancient times)

I try to find any info or fact, and googled "Russian Atrocities in CHina"
But I could not find anything.
If you google "Chinese Atrocities " , you'll find plenty of documents

More official ones are:-
UN To Review Reports of Atrocities Against Tibet Women Under Chinese Occupation (ICLT) Statements on Tibet, Inner Mongolia and China at UNCHR
A Silent Ethnic Cleansing in the Making in Xinjiang. Uigar and Kazakh news

http://www.muhajabah.com/docstorage/xinjiang.htm
http://www.tibet.ca/en/wtnarchive/1999/1/26_1.html

List of Chinese Falungong members victim of Chinese atrocities
http://www.upholdjustice.org/English.2/Atr...in%20CHina'

I think it is more appropriate to critize China for behaving badly too TODAY.

That's why I am coming up here to ask chinese forumers if they hear about it.

It's totally unfair to compare china on this regard, because the western media
and anti-china media tries to make every use of anything they see it abnormal,
but as millersdude demonstrated, it should not be even called atrocity. China
has many enemies, and they are trying to do anything to give china a bad name.

Soviet soldiers, instead, are exempted, and victims are not allowed to speak,
because china and soviet at the time were the closest allies. It's understandable
though, the victims of rapes do not speak up unless the government encouraged them
to.

hehe.. for that you need only to see into Beijings heaven in a nice day full of mongolian sand..





yea.. bad wester media!

tell others a true about chinese autocraties!



yea.. bad soviets!

have gived a land on china and freedom from japanese facists.

btw. you "forign hater"..
if you want see more, you can go into russian and soviet archives in chabarovsk and moskau and get out all informations very simple.

do it in china and you get big chinese foot into your @$$.

and now tell me about bad westerns and their bad medias.
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Chinese people could kick out japanese by themselves. Soviet merely gave helps.

Hohohohohohohoho. Unfortunately Chinese were fighting among themselves

Read more, charge your empty brain. change your ungrateful attitude, Confucious would not appreciate your ungrateful way
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_August_Storm

Why do we have so many idiotic Mongolians posting in Chinese chat even though they don't know what they're talking about?

I had such high respect for them too.

hehe.. do you got problems with mogolians?

in this idiotic "claim on forign independent countries" thread?

You people make me laugh.

I think you are STUPID. continue to prove your stupidity

Japanese imperial army would say the same thing. Why would chinese people want to see the truth?

i HAVE no pRoBlem with yoU

my friend, who do you have problem with? Is that Russian who does not treat you as equal?
We are asian, man. why not be more nice to your fellow asian?

I don't know why you have to feel defending Russian atrocities, namely rapes and gang rapes.

dude, "You were weighed, you were measured and were not well found"



what of $hit is that?

do you, idiot, really know what asia is?

what a stupid rassist!

wow!

Why are you so desperate on this one? Are you Russian half or quarter?

RUSSIA, CHINA, MONGOLIA, KAZAKHSTAN, KYRGYZSTAN, UZBEKSTAN, KOREA, JAPAN
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Central, North, North East Asia-

hahahaha.

it is not your problem, you idiot.

learn first to respect other people and their ancestors.

Men! what a rasisitic moron!