I know all the filipino members here would probably take you up on that peace and brotherhood broohaha. But I must say I could care less about Guam, and your offer of this brotherhood. Our culture is our culture, please leave it alone, its none of your business. I wish filipinos never migrated to Guam, so we wouldn't have filipino culture in Guam.

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No skin of my brown @$$! I'm sure the American Indians felt that way about about the white man. Hope you come out of your misery sometime soon. Oh, BTW, maybe you should share your unenlighted sentiment with the hundreds of Filipinos who migrate here to become US citizens. At least many of them are welcomed with open arms, and given an equal opportunity to make decent money to send home. Where are you at, again? Virginia?

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I know all the filipino members here would probably take you up on that peace and brotherhood broohaha. But I must say I could care less about Guam, and your offer of this brotherhood. Our culture is our culture, please leave it alone, its none of your business. I wish filipinos never migrated to Guam, so we wouldn't have filipino culture in Guam.

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No skin of my brown @$$! I'm sure the American Indians felt that way about about the white man. Hope you come out of your misery sometime soon. Oh, BTW, maybe you should share your unenlighted sentiment with the hundreds of Filipinos who migrate here to become US citizens. At least many of them are welcomed with open arms, and given an equal opportunity to make decent money to send home. Where are you at, again? Virginia?

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you got to give 'em a break. he's just like that all the time.

i got a friend from highschool who was from agana. he looks straight up flip, but he's i think only half. so is another chammorro i know. most of them look filipino. ($hit even my friends ex who was chammorro from saipan also)

i forgot the village he lived in but he was straight up skater somewhere in agana. he told me Guam is really small, and we were in Hawaii then too, hehe.

another one, she's half part cham and flip, but really mestizahen look. she said they have fiestas like the philippines, where they do the whole we serve we give food to each other, and people just randomly walk in and eat. like filipino fiesta/block party.

[quote=seeker,May 23 2005, 12:47 AM]
I know all the filipino members here would probably take you up on that peace and brotherhood broohaha. But I must say I could care less about Guam, and your offer of this brotherhood. Our culture is our culture, please leave it alone, its none of your business. I wish filipinos never migrated to Guam, so we wouldn't have filipino culture in Guam.

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No skin of my brown @$$! I'm sure the American Indians felt that way about about the white man. Hope you come out of your misery sometime soon. Oh, BTW, maybe you should share your unenlighted sentiment with the hundreds of Filipinos who migrate here to become US citizens. At least many of them are welcomed with open arms, and given an equal opportunity to make decent money to send home. Where are you at, again? Virginia?

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What does me living in Virginia have to do with what your talking about. I plan to move back to Philippines , so blah to you?

not to be an @$$ but ejay1 and possibly fil-am are idiots. filipino's are malay and related to chamorros. i wont even elaborate on why i feel that way because it is simply common sense we are both of malayo-polynesian background

christian and muslim filipinos are dutero malays. Its the proto-malays like the tribal filipinos, like the ifugao that may be related to P-islanders like chamorro.

Please why don't you just wear a grass skirt, do the hula and claim you are hawiian already.

doublepost

really d@mn, maybe its you who has never been in the Philippines. I was actually born there, don't you feel stupid .

I have a question. does your momma look like this.

thats not a malay nor a polynesian, thats an australoid

here is a tribal filipino of the malayo-polynesian-taiwanese race

he looks mestizo

austrloid, polynesian aren't they all the same.

Don't they dance the ooga booga, eat poi, and have jobs working in resorts.

http://www.moroinfo.com/ch1_onceuponatime.html

http://www.isis.csuhayward.edu/cesmith/vir...ll/Physical.htm

please refer to these sites

no he's native filipino with a nice haircut, thats an old genuine photo
theres a difference between austronesian and australoid. papuans from papua new guinea, fijians etc.. are their own race. Malay's are native Taiwanese, native filipinos, indonesians, malaysians, hawaiians, polynesians, maori of new zealand etc.. Samoans however have some admixture with the black austaloids.

another polynesian/hawaiian in photo below. i dont know why you wouldnt want to be associated with them, they're like bigger, stronger filipinos.





http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/8908/firemo...tron.html#Water

One
Indonesian: satu
Javanese: siji, Setunggal
Balinese: besik, Asiki
Sundanese: hiji, eka
Madurese: settong, tonggal
Sawu: ahi
Toraja: misa
Acehnese: sa
Tetun: ida
Tagalog: isa
Hiligaynon: isa
Maori: tahi, kotahi
Fijian: dua
Hawaiian: kahi
Malagasy: isa
Rapanui: tahi

Two
Indonesian: dua
Javanese: loro, Kalih
Balinese: dua, Kalih
Sundanese: duwe
Madurese: dua
Sawu: due
Toraja: dua
Acehnese: duwa
Tetun: rua
Tagalog: dalawa
Hiligaynon: duha
Maori: rua
Fijian: rua
Hawaiian: lua
Malagasy: roa
Rapanui: rua

Three
Indonesian: tiga
Javanese: telu, Tiga
Balinese: telu, Tiga
Sundanese: tilu
Madurese: tello
Sawu: tallu
Toraja: tallu
Acehnese: lhèe
Tetun: tolu
Tagalog: tatlo
Hiligaynon: tatlo
Maori: toru
Fijian: tolu
Hawaiian: kolu
Malagasy: telo
Rapanui: toru

Four
Indonesian: empat
Javanese: papat, Sekawan
Balinese: papat, Catur
Sundanese: opat
Madurese: empa
Sawu: apa
Toraja: a'pa'
Acehnese: peuet
Tetun: haot
Tagalog: apat
Hiligaynon: apat
Maori: wha
Fijian: va
Hawaiian: ha
Malagasy: efatra
Rapanui: ha

Five
Indonesian: lima
Javanese: lima, Gangsal
Balinese: lima, Panca
Sundanese: lima
Madurese: lema'
Sawu: lami
Toraja: lima
Acehnese: limong
Tetun: lima
Tagalog: lima
Hiligaynon: lima
Maori: rima
Fijian: lima
Hawaiian: lima
Malagasy: dimy
Rapanui: rima

Six
Indonesian: enam
Javanese: nem
Balinese: nem, nemnem, sad
Sundanese: genep
Madurese: enem
Sawu: anna
Toraja: annan
Acehnese: nam
Tetun: neen
Tagalog: anim
Hiligaynon: anum
Maori: ono
Fijian: ono
Hawaiian: ono
Malagasy: enina
Rapanui: ono

Seven
Indonesian: tujuh
Javanese: pitu
Balinese: pepitu, sapta
Sundanese:tujuh
Madurese: petto'
Sawu: pitu
Toraja: pitu
Acehnese: tujôh
Tetun: hitu
Tagalog: pito
Hiligaynon: pito
Maori: whitu
Fijian: vitu
Hawaiian: hiku
Malagasy: fito
Rapanui: hita

Eight
Indonesian: delapan
Javanese: wolu
Balinese: aktus, Astha
Sundanese:dalapan
Madurese: bellu'
Sawu: aru
Toraja: karura
Acehnese: lapan
Tetun: ualu
Tagalog: walo
Hiligaynon: walo
Maori: waru
Fijian: walu
Hawaiian: walu
Malagasy: valo
Rapanui: vau


Fire
Indonesian: api
Javanese: geni, Latu
Balinese: api, Geni
Sundanese: seuneu
Madurese: apoy
Sawu: ai (the same word is used for fire and water!)
Toraja: api
Acehnese: apuy
Tetun: ahi
Tagalog: apoy
Hiligaynon: kalayo
Maori: ahi
Fijian: buka
Hawaiian: ahi
Malagasy: afo
Rapanui: ahi

Moon
Indonesian: bulan
Javanese: rembulan, Wulan
Balinese: bulan, Sasih
Sundanese: bulan, Sasih
Madurese: bulen
Sawu: waru
Toraja: bulan
Acehnese: buleuen
Tetun: fulan
Tagalog: buwan
Hiligaynon: bulan
Maori: marama
Fijian: vula
Hawaiian: mahina
Malagasy: volana
Rapanui: mahina



Malayo-Polynesian languages [mulā'ō-polinē'zhun]
Pronunciation Key

Malayo-Polynesian languages , sometimes also called Austronesian languages [ô"strōnē'zhun] , family of languages estimated at from 300 to 500 tongues and understood by approximately 300 million people in Madagascar; the Malay Peninsula; Indonesia and New Guinea; the Philippines; Taiwan; the Melanesian, Micronesian, and Polynesian islands; and New Zealand. Today four Malayo-Polynesian languages have official status in four important states: Malagasy, in Madagascar; Malay, in Malaysia; Indonesian (also called Bahasa Indonesia, and based on Malay), in Indonesia; and Pilipino (based on Tagalog), in the Philippines. These languages have come to be widely understood in their respective countries, although not always as a first language.

The Malayo-Polynesian family has two subfamilies, Western Malayo-Polynesian and Eastern Malayo-Polynesian. The Western subfamily has the greater significance from both a cultural and a commercial viewpoint. Western Malayo-Polynesian languages are spoken by over 200 million people and include Malagasy, the language of 13 million people on the island of Madagascar; Malay, native to 28 million in Malaysia and the island of Sumatra, in Indonesia; Indonesian or Bahasa Indonesia [Indonesian language], which is based on the Malay language and is spoken natively by about 26 million people in Indonesia; Javanese, the mother tongue of 62 million people on Java; Sundanese, the language of 25 million, also on Java; Madurese, with 10 million speakers on Madura; Balinese, spoken by 2.5 million on Bali; and Pilipino or Tagalog, the native tongue of about 20 million in the Philippines. The Eastern branch consists of the Melanesian, Micronesian, and Polynesian groups of languages. Although there is a very large number of these languages, all together they are spoken by only 5 million people. Melanesian languages are found on the islands of Fiji, the Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, New Caledonia, the Bismarck Archipelago, and New Guinea.

The Malayo-Polynesian languages exhibit an abundance of vowels and a comparative paucity of consonants. They also tend to have disyllabic roots, form derivatives by means of affixes, and use reduplication to indicate the plural and other grammatical concepts. Writing varies, some forms being based on the Roman alphabet and others on alphabets derived from Indian or Arabic scripts.

It is thought that the original Malayo-Polynesian speakers came from a part of Asia near the Malay Peninsula and later migrated west as far as Madagascar and east to the Pacific. This migration probably began well over two thousand years ago. Because Malayo-Polynesian speakers lived on thousands of islands that were often widely separated, and because in earlier times communication among them was difficult, if not impossible, many dialects and, in time, languages evolved from the ancestor language, Proto-Malayo-Polynesian. Although it has been suggested that the Malayo-Polynesian and Southeast Asian (or Austroasiatic) languages form a single Austric family, this has not been proved. In fact, the Malayo-Polynesian tongues do not seem to be related to any other linguistic family.

http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/society/A0831333.html

you are confusing austronesian with australoid.

here are austronesians

dayak cheif in indonesia


indonesian boy


another tribal cheif



here is an australoid



australoids are more black, and one of the more ancient "races" whereas austronesians are mongoloid, or more specifically.. southern mongoloid. wheras chinese, tibetan, mongol, korean etc.. are northern mongoloid. japanese however are a mix of northern and southern mongoloid, the northerns coming to japan through korea while the "southern" mongoloidal ainu,.. came pre pleistiocene through the land bridges that formed during the ice ages.

here is a maori native of new zealand



same race as the native non-aeta filipinos. not to say filipinos and other malayo-polynesians did not mate and intermarry with black australoids, they did indeed. which is why many malay's are stronger and even bigger then your mainland mongoloids ie. vietnamese. for example, samoans are starting to dominate the sumo wrestling in Japan because due to being a mix of some black australoid and brown malayao-polynesian, they are bigger and stronger then little native japanese.





the Rock is half black half samoan

Ha ha ha you really don't know much about the filipino people or filipino culture.
Filipinos are not P-islander, thats just stupid stereotyping. We have little in common with those ooga-booga, d!ck sucking, primitive people.

Do you know about utang ng loob or walang hiya, or mano po. I don't think so, if your going to put down asians, go somewhere else punk.

ejay1?

who?? what???

Anyway Im sick and tired of this P-islander comparison. Learn about your roots, we filipinos come from duteuro malay stock from Southern China during the neolitic expansion. Please refer to Beyer's three way migration theory of the Philippines. And learn about the 10 Bornean princes from Sumatra settling in Panay(where I am from).Learn about how the Philippines has been influenced by the Sri-vajaya Empire and trading with the Chinese. If the Spanish never came the Philippines would be a Muslim country, no doubt.

once again: ejay1/fil am?

i was surprised when i was new here at how people recognize others so easy by how they post and the way the do.

anyways i know my roots, and most scholars say that my roots and Pacific people's roots are the same. there's only one theory that say otherwise, that is Heyerdahl's which states that all Pacific people and including Eastern Asian Malayan stocks came from S. America through reed canoes.

and it's funny how you say "know your roots" but then at the same time you advocate "if the Spanish weren't here we'd be Muslim".

I wast talking to kermit kriminal, and isn't it obvious that Philippines would be Muslim if the Spanish never came and checked their influence. Islam was gaining fast in the Philippines, there was even a Muslim city in Manila.

And why the f-ck do you keep on asking me ejay1? Who the f-ck is that??

what's wrong with Islam? Like it's a bad influence to one. I'm proud to be Christian and happy to be one, but that's because I was born one and am one. If I was born Muslim and grew up as one, then I'd be happy the same as I am now.

and once again it don't matter who you were talking to the fact is you're lecturing us about "roots" when you didn't know that these same roots you're talking about is the seed that produced other Austronesian bloodlines including those in the "Pacific Islands".

PLease refer to this



http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversio...hp/t6282-0.html

yes they are not Malays. because Malays are a terminology given to a certain Austronesian group that stayed in Asia. In fact not all "Malays" are even Malays. the term "Malay" is an adopted term for the group that dominate the group of austronesians termed "Malay" altogether. Ie Ifugao and Igorot (generic name), the Mangyans of Mindoro and the Formosan natives/Austronesian (not the Vonums and Taiyal) are not Malay but specifically Proto-Malay, which is once again a generic name for the group which became ancestors of what generally are now called "Malays".

Meaning all malays are austronesians, all Polynesian are austronesian and some of the rest of the Pacific people are Austronesian, but not all austronesian are Malays.

Malays, and the rest of the Austronesian stock no doubt in mind, through looks, culture, language have one common ancestor.

Now you might say "but we all have common ancestor in Africa". That is the truth right now, and if it is and you believe it, then I wouldn't even have to explain this to you to make you irk about it, since if you can believe that all humans are related then it doesn't matter whether who "Filipinos" associate with cuz they are all related.

how is saying filipinos are of austornesian stock 'putting them down', me sense some racism. I was born in Cainta Rizal so dont even go there, just admit you've been owned in this thread and move on, or post your own rebuttal with facts and sources not this ooga booga nonsense. let me guess, you're 16 years old.

Do you even know what that says? It is just arguing semantics, like for example all pit bull terriers are dogs, but not all dogs are pit-bull terriers

and LOL@ you for quoting a post from whitewatcher with this image



where is guam, take a guess

There is alot of Caucasoid mixed with Mongoloid in Austonesian peoples, which make it difficult to pigeonhole all Malayo-Polynesians into one sub-race because they can rage from Caucasian in appearance to Mongoloid, to mix, or even with negroid admixture like Samoans



dayak people

http://www.treklens.com/images/photos/234/dayak006.jpg

Chamorros are Micronesians, who are the native peoples of Guam and Northern Marianas. Chamorros were believed to be Malay peoples whose ancestors came from Indonesia, Malaysia, and Philippines to Guam and Marianas Islands in 2000 BC. They resemble the peoples, languages, music, and cultures of these countries. They were expert seamen and skilled craftsmen familiar with intricate weaving and detailed pottery making and who built unique houses and canoes suited to this region of the world. They impart the matriarchal authority.

The present-day Chamorros are of mixed races. They are a mixture of Eurasians — wherein Asians include Pacific Islanders — Africans, and Native Americans. They do not only include Malays, Indonesians, and Filipinos, but also mixed with Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Americans (including Caucasian, Native American, and African), and other Pacific Islanders — especially Polynesians (also Hawaiians) and Micronesians. Chamorro language is included in Malayo-Polynesian languages of the Austronesian family. It borrowed many words from foreign languages. Most words were derived from Spanish, American English, and Japanese, with a few from other Asian, like Chinese, and Austronesian languages, like Hawaiian.

http://www.economicexpert.com/a/Chamorros....a/Chamorros.htm



oh and ejay/filam/salamatpo ... the filipino culture isnt any more superior to other austronesian groups including chamorro. Try brining your "filipino culture is da $hit" to a chinese board and they'l call us primitive and inferior, or that we're just mutts with no culture worth mentioning in text books. so tone down it down a bit, have some humility

Filipinos are descended from the proto-philippine people who called
themselves Tau or Tao and they are related to the malays of Indonesia and closely related to Borneans our language family is closely related to boreans
which includes malagassy and so we are more closely related to merina
of Madagascar
than to malaysians and actually the ancestors of Visayans came from luzon

Chamorros are different from Filipinos...but yes their are some Filipino Influence in the Culture,Language and Food of the Chamorros,but that doesn't make them Filipinos...no one knows for sure where the Chamorros originated from,instead it's just theories....the Language and Accent of the Chamorro Language is entirely different from Filipino and yes some Chamorros do look Filipino,but i've also seen Chamorros who look Hispanic,White,Asian,Black,Arabic,etc,so in other words just because some may look Filipino,doesn't mean they are related to that group of people,but i do believe that the average Chamorro does have Filipino,Spanish and Mexican bloodlines among others blended in,but they still consider themselves just Chamorro.

Who said that filipinos where just like chamorros . Its only those brain washed P-islander wannabe fools who said that. I don't associate the Philippines with primitive P-islander culture, go take your lectioning somewhere else .

See she is filipina, does she look Chamorro to you?

Why do you get so defensive over this statement? i was just stating that Chamorros are a different group of people from Filipinos,and yes their are Chamorro Females that look like that girl in the picture.

i wouldnt take anything from that guy seriously dude.....just toss that freak some whitening cream and his @ss will be happy.

sucking any hawaiian d!ck lately

no wonder dawalapo left the discussion already. is that sandara??? half korean half whatever plus whitening lotion and facial and rebonding???
i met some igorots, they are similar to east timorese. no whitening lotion, no rebonding.
when did you see/do your native dance recently (if you're filipina/o)? do you know how to do any native dance? or just chocolate and otso-otso dance? that's what dawalapo wants you to realise and preserve your culture. native dance is not the one that already mixed with spanish/mexican movements and music.....that's not native enough for me.

im still here, im here for the sulintangs of AsiaFinest not the pensicocklas!

Sandara?? Ha ha no she is filipina. Yes I do know of some native dances. What dance do you know, the Hula?

I know of a few native dances like the bailaan and provincial ones as well.

See she is filipina, does she look Chamorro to you?


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i wouldnt take anything from that guy seriously dude.....just toss that freak some whitening cream and his @ss will be happy.

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sucking any hawaiian d!ck lately

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no wonder dawalapo left the discussion already. is that sandara??? half korean half whatever plus whitening lotion and facial and rebonding???
i met some igorots, they are similar to east timorese. no whitening lotion, no rebonding.
when did you see/do your native dance recently (if you're filipina/o)? do you know how to do any native dance? or just chocolate and otso-otso dance? that's what dawalapo wants you to realise and preserve your culture. native dance is not the one that already mixed with spanish/mexican movements and music.....that's not native enough for me.

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Sandara?? Ha ha no she is filipina. Yes I do know of some native dances. What dance do you know, the Hula?

I know of a few native dances like the bailaan and provincial ones as well.

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She is not filipina enough for me. I believe that igorots are the real filipinos. Or, let's put it this way, people who are able and willing to apply their cultural knowledge in any conditions, inside and outside the country (like me ), I salute and respect them.
It is important so people are aware of filipino heritage. . it's serious forum di ba? hindi ang joke kasi it's your identity that you should be proud of.

no offense but why bother with a link 20,000 years ago when we can't even cooperate now? heck, europeans have much more bloodline similarities compared to asian counterparts and yet, they cooperate well today. they dont bother about the past as much as we are doing now.... for as long as they create a future wherein everybody is content in living at peace with their surroundings.

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See she is filipina, does she look Chamorro to you?


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i wouldnt take anything from that guy seriously dude.....just toss that freak some whitening cream and his @ss will be happy.

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sucking any hawaiian d!ck lately

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no wonder dawalapo left the discussion already. is that sandara??? half korean half whatever plus whitening lotion and facial and rebonding???
i met some igorots, they are similar to east timorese. no whitening lotion, no rebonding.
when did you see/do your native dance recently (if you're filipina/o)? do you know how to do any native dance? or just chocolate and otso-otso dance? that's what dawalapo wants you to realise and preserve your culture. native dance is not the one that already mixed with spanish/mexican movements and music.....that's not native enough for me.

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Sandara?? Ha ha no she is filipina. Yes I do know of some native dances. What dance do you know, the Hula?

I know of a few native dances like the bailaan and provincial ones as well.

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She is not filipina enough for me. I believe that igorots are the real filipinos. Or, let's put it this way, people who are able and willing to apply their cultural knowledge in any conditions, inside and outside the country (like me ), I salute and respect them.
It is important so people are aware of filipino heritage. . it's serious forum di ba? hindi ang joke kasi it's your identity that you should be proud of.

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You recognize only the igorot. But how about the filipinos to the south, in Western Visayas and Mindanao. They originally came from Malaysia. You igorot supremicist.

You recognize only the igorot. But how about the filipinos to the south, in Western Visayas and Mindanao. They originally came from Malaysia. You igorot supremicist.

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why not???better to recognize your anchestors rather than worshiping whitening lotion, rebonding, well grooming, manicure pedicure, plastic surgery. Of course igorot is only one example. I don't close my eyes about other native communities in the Phil.

dalawapo

yeah, from their jokes bout filipinos

http://guamreunions.net/ipw-web/portal/cms...=viewtopic&t=79

i hear that most of the filipinos that go to guam aren't the most well educated in our population.

thats y they're makin jokes bout flips

i dont know but i think filipinos are really good at speaking in english kasi ginawa tayong kolnya ng america

good job for giving them an excuse to make fun of filipinos, f4g.
Though I could care less what some hula dancing savage who worships some tikki god on his worthless island think about filipinos.

i'm sure Dalawapo wont definetly agree with u

edit:ohh... w8 i read some old posts, dalawapo never agrees with u

a Phedophile TROLL calling me F@g? 2
go back to you dark corner and keep hunting the web for pictures of 13-16yr celebs you can repost. 2

this fukker is so insicure that he feels defensive evrytime someone says something that might make filipinos look bad to others. your kind is the reason why progress is never made because you would rather lie to yourself than face the problem and fix it.

So do your P Islander butt buddies cum on your face whenever you suck their d!cks.

Pedophile I don't think so, @ss wipe. Sarah is 17, and you are stilla f@g.

Spain, Japan, America have all commited far worse racist attrocities against filipinos than say a few chamorros who are individuals speaking for themselves than rather the whole pacific islander community, guam never commited a bataan death march like the japanese, and guam never colonized and oppressed the philippines like the spanish and americans, but yet "we" forgave the japanese, spanish and americans, some of us even go so far to embrace their culture and try to find some pride in association with them, an association based on colonization and oppression.

take a look at these early american characitures of filipinos that were printed on national mag & newspapers







so what is the reason behind this? is it that you only hate what is imitidatlely offending you? since one or two chamorros cracked some anti-filipino jokes, you must condem not only the island of guam but the entire pacific island community?

what validates that hatred? these people have never historically oppressed anyone, actually they are just like filipinos who have been oppressed themselves. oppressed by the same exact people (spain, japanese, americans) as the philippines even! why would you like to target a fellow oppressed people, it is the infighting that has allowed us to be oppressed in the first place as it kept us weak and vunerable.

Im only being defensive, if Chamorro think so lowly of filipinos, Im just making sure that they know their place.

I don't exactly k!ss American @ss either. Those f-cking posters are obviously incorrect, protraying us as primtive negroid like people, when we are obviously mongoloid. Those white people are more genetically related to africans anyway. Oh the irony

The music on that page is very annoying.. worst than some of the stuff in "Godfather".. I think suicide is a possiblity.. I know that aint traditional Phillippines music especially that fu-king organ..

That whole Chinese/Korean being small is not true... These people when given just the propper nutrition are the tallest people of the world literally.. They have a hard time putting on muscle but height-wise they can be the tallest... Sun Ming Ming, Yao Ming, Wang Zhi Zhi, Ha-Jeung, Mengke Bateer (this Inner-Mongolian has massive muscle).. Think of them as the Asian version of those tall skinny Irish and Scottish Celts..