oh, post hording,...

it takes too long to go back and forth on the same thread with different converstions..., but I'll try to do better,...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hmong

actually i can tell between viets , malay , hmong though chinese have various looks

and some ethnicity can llook ike the other like me


and u can tell by their name, clothes and language

IF SOMEONE ASK"EDEDS" YOU " WHAT IS HMONG?".. JUST REPLY..
"PUT US ON "SURVIVOR" AND WE'LL KICK AS$.

so what's the difrerent between hmong and laos? i'm really confused all the time. just because of hmong is a group of immigrant from the northeast China ?but laos is the native? but when we said hmong now, its means 1 of the minorities in laos,right?

finnally i know whats Hmong by wikipedia,its Miao in Chinese^^
im just confused for several years ,coz i have a good fd is origin Hmong, but im no idea about what he said till right now

this nikka is hela high..lol....the differnce between hmong and laos is that laos people cant speak hmong......

hmong people we came from a lost planet that do not exist anymore...we crash landed on earth in monkey animal form and then transformed into man, but before the transformation was happening the dinosours all died, then we finnaly turned to man and saved the last dinosour and named him barney,..(inclungklusive....)

Cool! I like to see this barney one day. Are they it put in a museum anywhere?

thank you have a nice day!

was that suppose to be funny?? lol sorry, i just find it corny.

HA-ha.....it wasnt funny? prabably not, i wasnt trying to be funny anway..ha ha ha...

I'm Hmong.

Great information and fact about the hmong and there decendant, but the queston to ask is, why do we disgrace our own race when we upcome other society, such as society spoil, ah crap don't even know what i'm saying, I"M DRUNK

I don't know if I've replied to this thread already or not, its been awhile, but I'll say it again.

Hmong people are asian white-wash. Because nobody knows the fu-k where we came from. Yeah yeah, you're probably saying Thailand or Laos. But it's been disputed, that we came from Mongolia, or China. Then there was the time that the french occupied where we supposedly lived, proof from the coins on your clothes. Which also might explain the natural redness in your hair. Plus not to mention, Hmong people have been mixed with nearly every single time of asian in the area. So I think the term "Asian White-Wash" applies to this.

Yeah...kindof a lost generation for generations...

now i know.

this is a very interesting thread.

though world history is not my favorite subject when i was in school, atleast im learning here now

i read that already when i was googling. (:

hmong pride..

Hello Hmong people...
Are you guys seeking independence for a free Hmong state?

"Hmong is just a group of people lost in a world with no country"

hahahaha...

just kidding...

May be primitive people lndians.........guessing ..................

LOL,there was even no Chinese at that time.

Theory says Miao was from Dongyi who lived in eastcoast of China."A Dongyi tribe led by Chiyou who revolt against and defeated the Dongyi's leader Yandi. The XiRong people from west (today's Shan'xi,Gansu and Henan whose lauguage belonged to Sino-Tibetan lauguage system) led by Huangdi setted about conquering Dongyi when the fighting happened within Dongyi itself. The defeated Yandi formed a coalition with Huangdi and won the war against Chiyou in ZhouLu.After that XiRong and Dongyi tribes led by Yandi formed a new tribe called HuaXia. Some of Dongyi people formerly led by Chiyou joint in Huaxia and some went east and south. Those Dongyi people who went south mixed with Nanman(who supposed to be another branch of Dongyi people who were darker and shorter) .At that time Huaxia zu lived in north central China.The remnant Dongyi lived in east and Nanman lived in south. During Xia dynasty the Huaxia annexed the nomad called Beidi whose language belonged to Altaic lauguage system.At the ending of Xia dynasty the Dongyi people became more stronger who finally toppled down Xia and found a new dynasty called Shang. The Huaxia was made of XiRong and Dongyi and shared a close blood line with the east dongyi,so when the Shang dynasty was found they all called themself as Huaxia(a term that supposed to be more civilized) and the rest pure blood Xirong people was seen as barbarians.However Shang was defeated by XiRong and the Zhou dynasty was found.

After the founding of Zhou there wasnt a ethinic called Dongyi anymore. Miao or hmong actually a mix ethinic between Nanman(partly Dongyi) and the tribes in far south China.During the Spring and Autumn Period the "barbarians" around central China were superior than Huaxia who was culturally superior. In the following Warring States Period,the kingdoms of Qin(with more Xirong blood),Chu, Han,Qi ,Wei,Zhao and Yan(with some Beidi blood)were culturally viewed as Huaxia at same time Chu was more related modern Hmong people. After the Qin conquered all kingdoms in China,our Han people were finally formed in Han dynasty.The the modern term of Han exactly refers to the mixed people between formerly Han and the surrounding nomads,say,Xiongnu,Chidang,Xian,Pi,Jie,li and Qiang.The Han cultural was the culture of these mixed people.

This tells that the Hmong was Nanman(south featured) who partly Dongyi and lived in south China,not the Dongyi people in ancient China.The Chiyou was partly your ancestor.Miao people had kept moving down far south because the military threat from North.And many Miao people are living quite well in China and their culture is well preserved.

Please dont put that the Chinese expansionist,it makes no sense but only causes the Anti-Chinese sentiments.

wtf? haha you can't stereotype hmong people like that..not all of us are ignorant..actually you make yourself sound ignorant...do more research...


nice info..

Although some members i'm quoting don't exist in this forum anymore or so...i'd still like to quote them...


agree...and that brings up this question (gonna be off topic): why, in the traditional songs from the hmongs, do they tend to sing about "tub ntsuag" (well, before all these love songs came out)? but yeah...i really like that last line.


WHAT? you know how to write in hmong too? or did you get it from someone else?


not really...but good attempt.


this line right here is really interesting...when i read it...i said, "the world was literally made in six days." and that got me thinkin...what's the significance of 6?


you bring up a very great point...i used to compare and contrast the native americans with the hmongs whenever i read articles or pieces of writing about them or see a film...but yeah...very great point though...here comes another research...


who cares? that's sad...


unreliable source...because in wikipedia one could easily edit information...think carefully if it's reliable or not...


umm...wow...because we don't know where we came from and no one else does too...we should attempt to find our origins...and Hmong people are most certainly not "asian white-wash".


not just any group of people...but i agree...we are a group of people that is lost in this world and have no country of our own.

hahaha omg stupid...we dont look like mexicans like u...haha watever u r....WE IS MORE FLY THEN U...WE IS TIGHT....ALL YA JUX SUCK!!!!!....fu-k betsa recignise..i represent hmong...so better back off...

AAAWWWW SHIIIEEEZZZ.....

Diz nikka iz Hm0ng too....but heez just b3in sarkastik.

do you really have to type like that?

hmong are probrally a very very......very very distant relative of the han chinese people. i think.

other than that, you cant tell them apart from japanese, chinese, or koreans. they look the same.

i read in the hmong folklore in the college libary and it is said that hmong orginated from siberia cus the folklore are simular and they also use shaman like use
as i read they said somethin like we migrated to china and live near the yellow river with the northin chinese and adopted their style of farmin like the burnin the land to crop and i read two different books and both said pretty much the same
so im my theory we prob are siberians and we came into china and eventually got mix with the chinese so we ended up havin black hair

oh okay, make sence now.

The Hmong have a recollected history that stretches back, perhaps to the last Ice Age. The Hmong's early history can be traced back according to their oral history and burial rituals.

In oral history, Hmong legend recalls the Hmong people coming from a place of extreme cold, where it was dark for six months and light for 6 months. From this place, they entered into China by way of a hunting expedition. A hunter and his dog hunted for several days after a wild animal in the snow. The hunter ran out of food and came back for several days without his dog to prepare for and continue the hunt. When the hunter set out again, the dog had already followed him back. The hunter petted his dog and found some new and different seeds on the fur. Then, Hmong people thought the known world was already explored, but the new and different seeds led Hmong people into China.

A second place that describes where Hmong people came from occurs in their "Showing the Way" burial ritual. In this ritual, the deceased is instructed to go back to the ancestors. It is believed that the ancestors have died and left this world to return to their place of origin, which is, again, the place of extreme cold. The conditions described by Hmong people's oral history and "Showing the Way" resemble conditions high latitude lands, such as Siberia and to a lesser extent Mongolia and the northernmost corners of present day China. Certainly, genetic and linguistic evidence suggests that quite a few of the ethnic groups in recent centuries resident in East and Southeast Asia can trace their roots to Siberia. Tibet is another possibility as an ancestral Hmong homeland; however, although it most certainly has ice and snow (and would have been even colder during the last Ice Age), being fairly far south it cannot exactly be described as a place with six months' darkness and six months of light.

Just a little information I got from wikipedia.

dang...that is too much reading...im sure you folks would like to know waht Hmong is without that headache reading...and this will be the latest update

Heres simple explanation.

Hmong are an ancient people who originated from china with our own culture and language. We were the first ppl to live in that area, dont remember where. The chinese took over. We were outnumbered, considering china's populatioin. After several attempts, they defeated us.
They treated us somewhat like the native americans of america.

Somthing to think about.

All the big countries today contain many ethnic groups! Don't u notice that most of those countries got big because they took over other peoples' lands? China and America for example. As a result, Hmong suffered a lot through history. And we don't have a country, so now you know why.

Overall, we most resembled Chinese physical characteristics. Thats how most of us look like.

AzNgirl, Thanks very much as I was wondering who were Hmongs??? Ok, where are they concentrated at in China, I mean which part of China?
Do they marry outside their race, I have seen some beautiful pix of Hmong girls and curiously wants to know if they are comfortable at marrying outside their race. What is their language??? etc etc.

People from the south of China are hmong?

What is Hmong?

Hmong is people just like you and me. Hmong have family and their own believe.. I am Hmong too.. and I cant change it.. even if i want too.. which I dont want too?? cuz im born into a culture that i love. Even if the world dont recozie us.. Cuz we dont have a conturie to live.. and even if we are one step back.. we take two step forward.. We live free.. and we live all over this world. I dont know why. Our teens dont repect our culture they want to be some other cuture. They wanna marry some other culuter.. Its hard to marry some other culture, if u dont even believe urs.. I dont know..

Like stated before, hmong is an ethnic group that migrated from china. Our ancisters lived in china for thousands of years until war broke out between the chineses and the hmong. Not asking for help from other nations, the hmong emperor took matters into his own hands and lost the battle. Forcing all the hmongs to move to other countries and to become chinese themself (hmong suav) in order to survive. Back then the hmong people had lots of heros, men and women, some of the names are names that are commonly heard today, one of the names is Nkaoj Sheng, who was a hmong leader with great martial arts skills that took the hmongs a long way.

Til this day hmong people are scatter all around the world but it's history and culture will live on forever. Some examples of how they will live on are through the Hmong New Years events that happens every year, traditonal healing event like janglebells, non-profit organisations such as Hmong International Cultural Inc. and Lao Family. Although many people do not know or haven't heard of Hmong, we are out there making a difference in the world and for that we are proud to be Hmong. In other words, I am proud to be a Hmong. I hope that you will gain some knowlege from reading this, and that it will help answer some of your questions of "what is hmong".

wow...u guys r proud of being hmong huh..i am too....but from wat i see these days...there aint gonna be no more hmong culture...all i see is lazyass wannabe gangsters sitting around smoking and chatting on who to beat up nex......even i admit i sometimes dont wanna go to those "jinglebell thingys" cuz i wanna stay home and either play games or jus too lazy to go......if u wonderin y i tink tis...its becuz im jus 14 years old...but tis is wat i believe is going to happen...and we're gonna need someone to like...dedicate his life to becoming a shaman cuz if theres no shaman...theres no "jinglebell thingys" and if theres none of tat...then hmong culture is los.......forever.......and ever.........or if we jus write it in a book or something about the way to jinglebell and wen and y and how and...some other stuff.....

Free people

GuiZhou, Yunnan, SiChuan, Hunan, Hainan, Guangxi, etc.

Are you referring to marrying caucasians, Africans, etc? Or are you referring to marrying different ethnicities? Either way, it usually doesn't occur often.

What is the question "What is Hmong?" That is like asking What is Caucasian? You really can't ask that question. There is no answer to that. Hmong is Hmong. We should all know that but Who is Hmong is what you want to know.

Yes you can. You cannot use Causcasian as an example because that term refers to a group of people classified by their skin color/race. Hmong is an ethnicity, a specific group of people.

ok then...to you "What is Hmong?" I would not be able to answer that question. It is just a question that doesn't make sense is what i am trying to say.

An SE Asian ethnic minority group. Don't make it too complicated.

yo hmong is me..hahaha

Originally from Northern China, fought the Chinese, lost (Outnumbered) and fled down to Laos. Guerilla fighter for the CIA in Laos, lost (Outnumbered), came to the US. Fought nine hunters in the woods of Wisconsin, won (outnumbered), went to jail. Ha Ha Ha Ha

Peb yog Hmoob, hais lus Hmoob, nyiam hlus Nkauj Hmoob, thiaj zoo siab peb yog 100% Hmoob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peb Hmoob muaj nyob ncooj..............Thats..........WHAT IS HMONG.........all about ..........

Peb yog Hmoob, hais lus Hmoob, nyiam hlus Nkauj Hmoob, thiaj zoo siab peb yog 100% Hmoob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peb Hmoob muaj nyob ncooj..............Thats..........WHAT IS HMONG.........all about ..........

Peb yog Hmoob, hais lus Hmoob, nyiam hlus Nkauj Hmoob, thiaj zoo siab peb yog 100% Hmoob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peb Hmoob muaj nyob ncooj..............Thats..........WHAT IS HMONG.........all about ..........

Coolness.

Hmong obviously originated from China. Ask anyone in china we are the Miao people....perhaps a different ethnic group from China....you can look at it this way....just as there are many african countries...clans...and when you look at all the different tribes...the Kenyans the Zimbawes they've all been separated and spread out.....Hmong people are like the chinese people in so many ways it's just that having lived apart, we've adapted to different customs, but we are still very much alike in many ways.

lol...ur so funny...but ur not serious are u cuz i disagree...with the Chai Vang part a bit....not entirely, but if you have to put it that way then I'll have to disagree. Although many people know about that incident and characterizes Hmong people (men usually) as murderers....as some white people put it, "they are killers"--only knowing how to kill....would you still agree? Well, this was the case a few months ago (i believe)...it really hurted Hmong people's image....Hmong people are not the only killers in this world, I'm sure you know that, if they are then everyone else must be too....Look at the VA tech University shooting that recently occurred...many White people are outraged and the first thing they thought of was to Hate all other Korean people, since some said they couldn't tell the difference among the asians they said they'll hate all asians.....stupid huh? You can't characterize all korean people as mentally-crazy psycho killers now can you! Just like Hmong people.....Chai's actions are not characterized by all Hmong people....I really would hope Chai the best and wish there was true Just in this world.....sorry......anyways i'm off topic now....Hmong people... we are still Hmong even though we are traced back to being Chinese we will always be Hmong....that's what makes us Us.