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Henry123
QUOTE(Sephy @ May 20 2006, 06:37 PM) [snapback]1869103[/snapback]

^ the historic infomation it is based on is also fictional.


Evidence being????

(Among other things. From my understanding The Templars did exist and the Freemasons do currently exist still.)
journeyman
Nice fictional read...but its nothing new. This issue has been proven wrong time and again. And I somehow pity the Christians who actually dont read the Bible but believe Dan Brown's fiction.

And the Catholic church does not represent Christianity biggthumpup.gif
Sephy
The main point about the book is that Da Vinci knew about it, because his name was on a list of people who were in the Priory of Sion, the guy who made it up confessed it was a hoax.. what more evidence do you want?

ok so you might not want to take my word on that, but look it up i'm sure you can find it.

Yes the Kinghts Templar did exist but that does not mean they knew about the holy blood line.
Henry123
QUOTE(Sephy @ May 20 2006, 06:37 PM) [snapback]1869103[/snapback]

^ the historic infomation it is based on is also fictional.


QUOTE(Sephy @ May 20 2006, 07:37 PM) [snapback]1869266[/snapback]

The main point about the book is that Da Vinci knew about it, because his name was on a list of people who were in the Priory of Sion, the guy who made it up confessed it was a hoax.. what more evidence do you want?

ok so you might not want to take my word on that, but look it up i'm sure you can find it.

Yes the Kinghts Templar did exist but that does not mean they knew about the holy blood line.


I thought you said the historical information is also fiction???? (I said SOME of the Da Vinvi code is based on historic fact. The rest being fiction.)


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Nice fictional read...but its nothing new. This issue has been proven wrong time and again. And I somehow pity the Christians who actually dont read the Bible but believe Dan Brown's fiction.

And the Catholic church does not represent Christianity biggthumpup.gif


It was only a intriguing theory that is being premoted.
Sephy
Sorry I ment that some of the infomation he presents as fact, is actualy fiction. We got out wires crossed. embarassedlaugh.gif
Henry123
Hey no problem. Its just a mix up. laugh.gif
Ek-ek
Editorial : Da Vinci decoded

First posted 02:51am (Mla time) May 21, 2006
Inquirer



Editor's Note: Published on page A14 of the May 21, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer



SOME members of the Catholic faithful are anxious over the possible impact of the movie “The Da Vinci Code,” and that is only to be expected. The novel on which the movie is based has sold millions of copies around the world in three years. Its rather lurid premise—that Jesus did not die on the cross but married Mary Magdalene and established a dynasty—runs directly counter to the core of the Christian faith. A Hollywood movie can only spread the anti-Word with greater efficiency.

A few have called for a ban on the movie. But a ban is not, and cannot be, the answer. The international success of the “Code” suggests that it is a “sign of the times,” as one theologian in Rome phrased it. It represents a challenge to the Christian faith—especially in terms of the relationship between religion and modern mass-media culture; a ban would only be the equivalent of burying one’s head deeper in the sand.

The right response must lie in critical engagement. The movie actually presents the Catholic faithful with a teaching opportunity; they should seize it.

In the Philippines, the extreme response is exemplified by the position of Bishop Ramon Arguelles of Lipa, who says the movie should be banned because it is “blasphemous”; and by the city council of Manila, which actually banned the movie in the nation’s capital for three reasons.

The council resolution denounced the movie (which none of the councilors had yet seen) as “undoubtedly offensive and contrary to established religious beliefs which cannot take precedence over the right of the persons involved in the film to freedom of expression.” For good measure, the resolution also said the movie violated both the Revised Penal Code (by being “contrary to morals, good customs and religious beliefs”) and a 1993 city ordinance (which banned “obscene, indecent and immoral movies”).

We believe Bishop Arguelles and the councilors of Manila are mistaken. Let’s set aside the related issue of alternative viewing options; in this day and age, a banned movie is guaranteed to show up in VCDs or on the Internet, or perhaps even in third-generation mobile phones.

Let’s talk principles.

Religious freedom, in the modern context of our constitutional democracy, must mean not only the freedom to practice one’s religious beliefs, but also the freedom not to believe. It is a right that protects both the devotee and the skeptic, the orthodox as well as the heretical.

Thus, in a predominantly Christian nation like ours, religious freedom must include space even for those beliefs or practices that Christians will find blasphemous. If we were to hold otherwise, then the privileging of the Christian religion would violate both the letter and spirit of our Constitution. It would lead, again, to “an establishment of religion.”

Closely related to the right of religious freedom is the even more basic right of free speech and free expression. The author and publisher of the book enjoys this right; the movie version, therefore, should enjoy exactly the same guarantees as the book on which it is based. That no one has seen fit to suggest the banning of the book tells us something about those who have suggested the banning of the movie. For them, freedom of expression is dangerous only when the disturbing content is coursed through mass media, but not when coursed through that quaint relic of old media called the book.

But if freedom of expression does not depend absolutely on content, neither does it depend on the medium in use.

Archbishop of Jaro Angel Lagdameo, speaking for the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines, issued a pastoral statement that strikes the right note of critical engagement. The statement attacks the distortions in the book and the movie, but instead of calling for a ban, it calls on “communities of faith” to “deepen” their knowledge of scripture and tradition, to “collaborate with historians, scholars of the arts, and scientists in shaping a culture with depth and integrity,” and to rededicate themselves to the gospel mission of spreading the Word.

It echoes what Fr. Bruno Esposito of the Angelicum in Rome said, in a forum on the movie last week: “The challenge is directed to us, ourselves, not to those who sell these books and films.”




poknat
There is still a long line in most malls were this film is being shown. I was not able to watch the film yesterday but i will try to watch the film next week.
Ek-ek
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MEGA BILLBOARD of the most controversial film in recent memory seems to be moving alongside a bus on Edsa and on the road to perdition as it opens across Asia on Thursday to lamentations and the gnashing of teeth. REM ZAMORA


City of Manila bans ‘Da Vinci Code’

First posted 02:20am (Mla time) May 19, 2006
By Tina G. Santos
Inquirer



Editor's Note: Published on Page A1 of the May 19, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer


MOVIEGOERS in Manila may have to go to neighboring cities to watch “The Da Vinci Code” after the city council yesterday passed a resolution prohibiting the showing of the controversial movie.

The resolution said the movie, which was based on US author Dan Brown’s explosive novel, “is undoubtedly offensive and contrary to established religious beliefs which cannot take precedence over the right of the persons involved in the film to freedom of expression.”

The resolution, which was passed just hours before cinemas in Manila and other parts of the metropolis began showing the movie, cited a provision in the Revised Penal Code that made it “a crime to exhibit films which offend a religion.”

Councilor Rolando Valeriano, one of the authors of the resolution, said the ban would take effect today after theater owners in Manila shall have been furnished copies of the measure.

The film’s premise that Jesus Christ married Mary Magdalene and fathered children whose descendants
have survived to the present day has sparked accusations of blasphemy not only from the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) but also from other Christian groups across the globe.

Earlier this week, however, the Movie and Television Review and Classification Board (MTRCB) allowed the film to be shown but gave it an R-18 rating, meaning it is restricted to adults.

According to Valeriano, cinema owners in Manila who defy the ban face a one-year jail term and a P5,000 fine. Those caught selling pirated DVDs or VCDs of the movie could be jailed for up to six months and fined P3,000, he added.

City’s sentiment

“This is the sentiment of the city of Manila,” said Councilor Benjamin Asilo, a co-author of the resolution.

“The film made erroneous and unsubstantiated claims against the fundamental doctrines of Christianity,” Asilo said, adding that the people behind the movie “should not be allowed to enrich themselves at the expense of desecrating our religious institutions and impairing our relationship with our God.”

Councilor Maria Asuncion Fugoso (District 3), one of those who approved the resolution, said she was withholding judgment on the film.

“It’s not for me to judge, I know it’s just fiction, but why use the name of Christ?” Fugoso said.

Councilor Cita Astals opposed the resolution, saying that she was for freedom of expression. She described Brown’s book as “excellent” so that “once you start reading it, you’ll not put it down.”

“If your faith is strong, any movie that depicts Jesus as Satan will not affect you. But if your faith is weak, any movie will not save you,” Astals added.

Councilor Lourdes Isip-Garcia, who also opposed the ban, said the movie “is fiction, just for entertainment.”

Not a sin

Fr. James Reuter, director of the Catholic Church’s National Office of the Mass Media, said it wasn’t a sin to see the movie.

“Rome, in general, has condemned it ... (But) the Holy Father has not made it a sin if you watch it,” Reuter told the Inquirer on Tuesday.

In France, director Ron Howard had a suggestion for people riled by the way Christian history was depicted in the movie: If you think the movie will upset you, don’t go see it.

“There’s no question that the film is likely to be upsetting to some people,” Howard told reporters at the Cannes Film Festival on Wednesday. “My advice, since virtually no one has really seen the movie yet, is to not go see the movie if you think you’re going to be upset. Wait. Talk to somebody who has seen it. Discuss it. And then arrive at an opinion about the movie itself.”

“Again: This is supposed to be entertainment, it’s not theology,” he said.

The movie suggests that Jesus Christ was married to Mary Magdalene and fathered a child. One reporter asked the cast if they believed Christ was married.

Star Tom Hanks quipped, “Well, I wasn’t around.” With reports from Nikko Dizon and Associated Press

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Another article:
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Cinema staff prepares a poster of the movie "The Da Vinci Code" during its opening day at a theater in the Philippines. But the local government of Manila banned all cinemas in the city from screening the controversial film after a resolution was signed by a majority of its councilors just hours after it premiered in Asia's bastion of Catholicism. AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/Joel Nito
Manila bans showing of ‘The Da Vinci Code’

First posted 06:55pm (Mla time) May 18, 2006
Agence France-Presse

(2ND UPDATE) THE CITY government of Manila on Thursday banned all cinemas in the Philippine capital from screening the controversial film “The Da Vinci Code," saying it was an attack against the dominant Roman Catholic religion in the country.
A resolution was signed by a majority of the city councilors just hours after it premiered in major cities across the country, Asia's bastion of Catholicism.

"This is the sentiment of the city of Manila," said council member Benjamin Asilo.

He said the ban will take effect on Friday, the second day of the film's screening in the Philippines.

The resolution said the movie, which was based on US author Dan Brown's explosive novel, is "undoubtedly offensive and contrary to established religious beliefs which cannot take precedence over the right of the persons involved in the film to freedom of expression."

It stressed that the country's Revised Penal Code states that "it is a crime to exhibit films which offend a religion."

Asilo, who authored the resolution, said malls and cinema owners in Manila who defy the ban risked being fined, or their owners imprisoned.

Those caught selling pirated DVDs or VCDs of the movie could also be jailed for up to six months, Asilo warned.

In Metro Manila, the movie can still be seen in 16 other cities and municipalities which, unlike the capital Manila, did not impose a ban.

But the Hollywood movie will not also be shown in all SM cinemas throughout the Philippines, as the country’s largest chain of shopping malls keeps off from its screens films with an R-18 rating, reports said.

The government's censor bureau earlier this week allowed the film to be shown but gave it an R-18 rating, meaning it is restricted to adults.

The movie takes a leaf from Brown's book which put forward the theory that Jesus Christ was married to the biblical prostitute Mary Magdalene, had children and that the sacred blood line still exists today in secret.

Members of the politically influential Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines have also branded the movie as blasphemous.

The Philippines is Asia's bastion of Catholicism, with over 80 percent of its 84 million population belonging to the religion.

With INQ7.net, The Associated Press







poknat
Manila vows to padlock theaters showing ‘Da Vinci Code’

First posted 06:26pm (Mla time) May 22, 2006
By Tina G. Santos
Inquirer


THE Manila government on Monday threatened to padlock movie houses that continue to show the controversial "The Da Vinci Code" movie.
As of Monday afternoon, some theaters in the city were still featuring the film, three days the Manila city council banned its showing in the Philippine capital.

A council resolution which took effect Friday said the movie, based on US author Dan Brown's explosive novel, is "undoubtedly offensive and contrary to established religious beliefs which cannot take precedence over the right of the persons involved in the film to freedom of expression."

According to Geronimo Tolentino, chief of the city’s Business Permits and Development Office, theater owners were furnished a copy of the resolution a day after it was approved. However, some of them said they would only comply if the city government were to pass an ordinance and not just a resolution.

In response, Mayor Lito Atienza ordered Secretary to the Mayor Emmanuel Sison to write a letter ordering theater owners to stop exhibiting the film.

"The letter would come in a form of an order from the mayor. It will be based on the resolution and the mayor's personal directive," Tolentino said, adding that the letter were supposed to be distributed Monday afternoon.

Council member Benjamin Asilo, who authored the resolution, had said malls and cinema owners in Manila who defy the ban risked being fined, or their owners imprisoned.

Those caught selling pirated DVDs or VCDs of the movie could also be jailed for up to six months, Asilo said.

The government's censor bureau earlier last week allowed the film to be shown but gave it an R-18 rating, meaning it is restricted to adults.

The movie takes a leaf from Brown's book which put forward the theory that Jesus Christ was married to the biblical prostitute Mary Magdalene, had children and that the sacred blood line still exists today in secret.

Members of the politically influential Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines have also branded the movie as blasphemous.

The Philippines is Asia's bastion of Catholicism, with over 80 percent of its 86 million population belonging to the religion.

With Agence France-Presse



Ek-ek
Manila solon wants nationwide ban on ‘The Da Vinci Code’

By Tina Santos
Last updated 05:44pm (Mla time) 05/19/2006


A DAY after the city council of Manila passed a resolution prohibiting the showing of “The Da Vinci Code,” a congressman from the city now wants the controversial film banned nationwide.

Representative Bienvenido Abante Jr. of Manila’s 6th District also called for the resignation of Movie and Television Review and Classification Board (MTRCB) chairperson Ma. Consoliza Laguardia for allowing the film, classified as R-18 (for adults only), to be shown.

Abante said Laguardia allegedly “failed to become the guardian of morality and for not becoming the guardian of the social consciousness of the Filipino people.”

Abante is the president of the Metropolitan Baptist Church of the Philippines.

Abante said the movie was “blasphemous in nature.”
Sephy
Was 'The Passion of Christ' shown in The Philippines ? If so what was the responce and what was it like compaired to The Da Vinci Code?
martin_nuke
QUOTE(Sephy @ May 22 2006, 08:35 PM) [snapback]1876020[/snapback]

Was 'The Passion of Christ' shown in The Philippines ? If so what was the responce and what was it like compaired to The Da Vinci Code?

The Passion of Christ was shown in the Philippines and I cried in that film. I am still a believer of Jesus Christ even if I watched the Da Vinci Code but I somewhat oppose to the Catholic Beliefs a long time ago.
JMAC
Heretics > Vatican
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Cristiano_Ronaldo
I NEVER incorporate religion with entertainment OR fiction. Seeing as I am not devout, then watching this movie isn't going to harm my beliefs in any way. I was just watching a documentary about the Da Vinci Code and how they were actually going in-depth with the concept of Jesus and Mary Magdalene being married and stuff. That the Holy Grail IS Mary Magdalene where the 'blood of Christ' is actually their daughter. I admit, it's interesting, but I don't follow it.
mikekk86
The Spanish brought the Catholic religion to the Phillipeans, right? It's interesting to see how much an effect foreign religions have on a culture.
parok_mah
i think the catholic leaders in the phil is over reacting to such enterainment. i dont know why but my guess is they are just afraid of what people will be after watching the movie. maybe, they are guilty.. lols.. anyways if your a catholic and doubts about the genuinity of the teachings of your priest. better not watch the movie because it will just shatter your faith. that also goes to all who believes in jesus christ.
the story has a lesson though, what ever your religion in, what matters is how strong your faith is.
anak ng araw
foreign or not.. religion is something personal...... western or eastern faith is universal.


back on topic... this is hypocrisy at its best... for me let the people decide for themselves... the govt is trying to manipulate everything....
"attack against christianity?"
i don't know what's goin on over there.... but we've got some serious problems....
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QUOTE(flipcombatmedic @ May 20 2006, 06:02 PM) [snapback]1869150[/snapback]

it's not fictional per se...but rather just a theory. there are proof, but the problem with with Dan Brown and some of his sources (holy blood holy grail) is that they have substantial evidence but do not have solid proof. some of the probable truth ie all the geographical lines in churches, the V in the last supper (who was St. James and not a female) etc are there for real, but it doesn't mean it was Da Vinci's and the Priory of Scion's clues. Dan Brown just pieced a whole bunch of oddities and said that they are all connected and really prove that the holy grail is the Merovingian/Jesus bloodline.


The history channel tested the DNA from bones of the Merovingian royal line, by supposedly one of the best DNA labs in Europe. The test results came back European with no traits of Middle Eastern DNA. So modern science disproves that.

Another thing, which always gets me about people in the Western world regardless if they are Christian or secular, is the idea and historical perspective that all Christian history took place between Rome, Constantinople, and Geneva icon_confused.gif . Like Syria, Ethiopia, Nubia, Russia, Mongolia, China, and India contributed nothing to Christian history.

The "St Thomas Christians" of India claim the Apostles St Thomas along with other Jewish Christians brought Christianity to Kerela (sp?) India. After getting cut off from the rest of Christendom by Islam, they reamined and isolated community, still holding the basic beliefs to Christianity in their isolation and without a Bible (that's how I understand it at least). How does any *truely historical and scholarly work* reject and ignore what Indian Christian have to say their tradition says of the teaching of St Thomas regarding Jesus, but accepts some small tales in Europe about Jesus children arriving in France? icon_confused.gif

I suppose Jesus bloodline needed to get a little white huh? icon_confused.gif


Dan Brown's story wouldn't bother me - intellectually - if he just would say "hey it's historical fiction with great exaggeration, just to make an interesting, exciting, and fun story." Hell I would give him the thumbs up on that biggthumpup.gif . What bothers me intellectually about it is it's pushed as some *serious historical fiction* composing the best scholarship on earth to come up with the best fictional historical truth that can be offered of Jesus and his sexuality.


tangawizi
Nice thing about this whole thing is that no one has yet raised a fatwa against the author Dan Brown for fictional account of God and his Son... embarassedlaugh.gif

The movie sux though. I can't think for the life why they cast Tom Hanks and that wooden french girl as protagonists.. Talktohand.gif
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QUOTE(tangawizi @ May 23 2006, 04:42 AM) [snapback]1877223[/snapback]

Nice thing about this whole thing is that no one has yet raised a fatwa against the author Dan Brown for fictional account of God and his Son... embarassedlaugh.gif


Catholics don't burn muesums or theaters down. They protest by peaceful means. Enter Hindu India mocking one of their gods and the theater will be burned down.

That's why Hollywood shows a pattern of picking on Catholics, because like a coward it knows Catholics won't strike back at it in violence. Hollywood is a heavy weight in the entertainment and cinema industry, so I would have more respect for Hollywood if it fought in its own weight class, and picked a fight with Muslims or Hindus. That it doesn't, only makes it less a respectable fighter to me, fu-kin with Catholics is like fu-kin with a 13 year old girl. Now fu-kin with Muslims would be like fu-kin with a 300 lbs man that pumps iron. Hollywood doesn't want any of that.

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The movie sux though. I can't think for the life why they cast Tom Hanks and that wooden french girl as protagonists.. Talktohand.gif


I like both those actors icon_smile.gif. Actually they would be one of the good things about the movie (besides the fact that it does look entertaining and well directed).
Sephy
^ Yep Tom Hanks and Audry Tautou are good actors.
tangawizi
QUOTE(extra hour @ May 23 2006, 09:49 PM) [snapback]1878073[/snapback]

Catholics don't burn muesums or theaters down. They protest by peaceful means. Enter Hindu India mocking one of their gods and the theater will be burned down.

That's why Hollywood shows a pattern of picking on Catholics, because like a coward it knows Catholics won't strike back at it in violence. Hollywood is a heavy weight in the entertainment and cinema industry, so I would have more respect for Hollywood if it fought in its own weight class, and picked a fight with Muslims or Hindus. That it doesn't, only makes it less a respectable fighter to me, fu-kin with Catholics is like fu-kin with a 13 year old girl. Now fu-kin with Muslims would be like fu-kin with a 300 lbs man that pumps iron. Hollywood doesn't want any of that.
I like both those actors icon_smile.gif. Actually they would be one of the good things about the movie (besides the fact that it does look entertaining and well directed).


Maybe it's a reflection of faith, the Christian societies of today are by and large rather secular in thinking and wealth is more or less distributed. They no longer subscribe to the devotional intoxication of religion? Whereas this aspect is still alive and thriving in other societies, why? Coz the power structures and allocation of wealth in those societies are still very much lop-sided. Hungry god-intoxicated folks are willing to do anything, including laying down their lives and issuing forth vehemence... icon_neutral.gif
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Maybe it's a reflection of faith, the Christian societies of today are by and large rather secular in thinking and wealth is more or less distributed. They no longer subscribe to the devotional intoxication of religion? Whereas this aspect is still alive and thriving in other societies, why? Coz the power structures and allocation of wealth in those societies are still very much lop-sided. Hungry god-intoxicated folks are willing to do anything, including laying down their lives and issuing forth vehemence... icon_neutral.gif


Perhaps. icon_confused.gif

Still does not negate the fact that Hollywood does not f-ck with Hindu India or worldwide Islam, and consequently f-ckin with Catholics makes Hollywood a chump and coward. I mean India is prime land to shoot a film on location dissing Hindu gods, however Hollywood knows their people would be set on fire with in a couple of days into the shoot. Hence like all b-tches they go and f-ck with a guy or girl they feel comfortable bullying. I say fight in ones own weight class. Without doubt Hollywood is the most wealthy and powerful film industry in the world, that makes them heavy weights, and heavy weights should fight other heavy weights.

How would Mike Tyson look fighting Sugar Shane Mosely? icon_confused.gif

By the way... Brazil supposedly has the largest inequality in wealth distribution in the world. Far more than that of Dubai (which by your statments I reckon you never set foot in icon_confused.gif ) or Kuwait or Turkey or probably even Suadi Arabia. Yet you don't find Catholics in the favelas of Brazil burning down movie theaters or issuing "fatwas" against Dan Brown for his depiction of Jesus.

As for devotional intoxication of religion or lack of? You evidently know little of Latin American Catholicism... there are people there in certain parts of either Mexico or Central America that will walk on their knees for miles out of a religious devotion. Rural people that will walk miles up and down hill just to go to Mass on Sunday. My brother stayed with a Mayan family in Mexico, contracted to film a commericial about Mayan villages and workers producing organic coffee, he was taken by the people kindness, extreme Catholic devotion, all in the face of the very humbe way they lived. He filmed the family he was staying with for his own personal footage. They cooked in a dark room with a dirt floor, their beds (including the one my brother slept on) was simply a slab of wood or concrete with a blanket thrown over it. These people would pray for an entire hour before eating their meal. - I believe in the Philipines on certain feast days some people will crucifie themselves to a cross and walk or be carried in procession.

So there are Christians still quite devote - including of Protestants and Orthodox as well - yet don't go around killing Dan Brown's even though Dan Brown and Hollywood would like to indoctrinate that image.


By the way, tang... exactly how little vehemence did secular communist Russia and China issue icon_confused.gif ? Boy those Gulags must have been quite fun. And what was it... something like 30 million people Soviet atheism murdered? But hey don't spray me with Agent Orange over my comment. icon_confused.gif
Sephy
^ You seem to think Hollywood goes after Christianity but I don't think it is because they are out to get christians or because they know there will be no adverse effect, I think it is because alot of people in Hollywood are white, and are catering to a white market. Generaly White people are not going to care to much if there is a film which is taking a poke at Hinduism or other faiths. They want films that the most ammount of people can relate to.
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^ You seem to think Hollywood goes after Christianity but I don't think it is because they are out to get christians or because they know there will be no adverse effect, I think it is because alot of people in Hollywood are white, and are catering to a white market. Generaly White people are not going to care to much if there is a film which is taking a poke at Hinduism or other faiths. They want films that the most ammount of people can relate to.


That would probably be true, accept for one problem, Hollywood dominates worldwide cinema but for India. Hollywood films are almost entirely absent in India... every where else in the world Hollywood exports its movies. Kind of like German and Japanese cars make big bucks off exporting their cars to other countries.

Sure Hong Kong, France, the Brits, the Japanese and a few others have some muscle in the film industry - and exporting their movies. But none of them are like Hollywood - she is like the Mike Tyson and Muhammed Ali of the film making and exporting world. In other words she has non white and Christian audiences.

So with close to a billion people in the world, Hollywood knows damn well from the "almight dollar" point of view, they could make multi millions by breaking into the Hindu Indian market. But they refuse, not just because of the orginized crime involved in Bollywood, because there is La Cosa Nostra involvment in Hollywood, but because Hollywood knows India takes it's film industruy and movies like Brazil and England takes its soccer matches. Serious eek.gif ! To the bone, blood, and even death. If a "hero" does not act in the slightest way a "hero" is suppose to act in a Hindu Indian movie, the people are prone to riot and tear the theater up. Plus... if US directors and producers filmed on location in India they would die a brutal death, if they insulted the cultural mores of India let alone of Hinduism and one of the Hindu gods. Its a simple fact.


Why I think Hollywood goes after Christianity? It's a simple matter of pattern. Keep in mind the Civil Rights Act of the 1970's that prohibited discrimination in the work place, did so not just for race. You should read the Act sometime if you are not familiar with it. It prohibits discrimination based on religion, sexual orientation, creed, gender, and et cetera. How is that relevant to the discussion? In to ways. One, legislation in the US was aware bias and prejudice existed in the United States for religion or particular religions. Two, one of the major ways the state determines if an allegation of discrimination is true is it investigates for a pattern of behavior, especially in a comparison form, that is, how does said employer treat group A in comparison with the employers treatment of groups B and C? Does said employer allow groups B and C to leave early but all ways or frequently forces group A to stay late? Does said employer show a pattern of harshness or critical nature towards group A that it does not with groups B and C?

One can utilize these same techniques of comparison and contrast, of pattern formations, to glean insight into, or discern whether there is a biased trend in Hollywood against Roman Catholicism in particular and Christianity in general.

I mean The Third Miracle is about the only modern movie I know of from Hollywood that treats Catholicism with a fairly decent regard, and even then the movie made the Bishops all look very negative. There was a time in the 1950's - with Bing Crosby - when Hollywood treated Catholicism in a decent or very good light. Now it hasn't went in a balanced middle, it has went a complete 360 degree turn from that and makes Catholicism look like it is the source of all the world's woes. And Catholicism aside, it has taken a sadistic pleasure in attacking the image of Jesus repeatedly. I find it quite interesting that Dan Brown uses a pedophiler of boys (Leonardo Da Vinici was supposedly screwing a 8 or 10 year old boy at one point) to attack the credibility of Jesus restrained sexuality into celibacy. When both of them never married or produced kids (of course Dan Brown says Jesus did).

That's kind of like me using a prolific pedophiler Catholic Priest to attack the credibility of Hindu Ganhi's late life vow and condition of celibacy? icon_confused.gif Call me crazy but something is f-ckin distorted in that.
amritsaramritsar
i pity tom hanks. His career is so feckin down the drain he wanna save it by bringing on such a lousy film. He was so desperate he produced it himself and hired himself to star in it. So feckin desperate. And look at his hairstyle.
Sephy
I can count more pro christian movies in the Life span of Hollywood than anti christian ones.

I think your view is skewed (and subsequently the points you choses to comment on) because you are looking for a reason to think Hollywood is anti christian, I don't disagree but I think Hollywood is anti everything (unless it makes them money) and the reason they don't go after Bollywood is because there is no market for that (ie they wouldn't make as much money). Not because they think there will be violent protests. (what do they care?)

Whites have had to live with Christianity for Millenia and only know are they free to express the bad sides of it, which is another reason they are doing it more than other religions.

I can understand the frustration that you believe they are attacking your religion but this is one of the prices you pay for equality (bought about by a Christian society). In all honesty as long as you are comfortabe with your own beliefs why does it matter than anyone else is 'dissing' what you believe in?
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I can count more pro christian movies in the Life span of Hollywood than anti christian ones.


The life span of Hollywood is quite long. The US film industry relocating from from New York to Hollywood, California in roughly the early 20th century. I had already interjected in my post above that Hollywood in the 1950's use to portray Catholicism in a positive light - giving the example of the Bing Cosby movies. Of course the 1950's are widely considered the "golden years" of Christianity and Catholicism in the United States.

So I made my complaint with contemporary Hollywood - that can be understood from my diction and tone.

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I think your view is skewed (and subsequently the points you choses to comment on) because you are looking for a reason to think Hollywood is anti christian.


First off, all that is an off base assumption without merit. Most of my arguments have been what would be refered to as "logical arguments," to be distinguished from what is refered to as "persuasive arguments." Admittedly the ability to affectively use both makes one not just an excellent debater but a man or woman that can influence and manipulate millions or billions of people. Martin Luther King and Adolf Hilter where both excellent persuasive speakers. So one can use the tool for good or bad.

I have used some persuasion in my arguments, I admit this, but I have utilized logic more. Tangawizi on the other hand has relied much more heavily than I on persuasive arguments, and example of this can be seen in these two lines: "They no longer subscribe to the devotional intoxication of religion?" and "Hungry god-intoxicated folks are willing to do anything, including laying down their lives and issuing forth vehemence." These are persuasive because they rely not on logic to move the opinion of a person but on raw emotions. There is nothing of objective substance in his comments but flowery words to appeal to emotion - no doubtedly his target audience being less educated individuals, generally less taught in critical thought, therefore much more easy to manipulate by persuasion.

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I don't disagree but I think Hollywood is anti everything (unless it makes them money) and the reason they don't go after Bollywood is because there is no market for that (ie they wouldn't make as much money). Not because they think there will be violent protests. (what do they care?)


How is there not a market for it? India has close to a billion people. Presently her middle class society along with China's is reshaping the consumer demands in the world. China, India, and Brazil are estimated to become the new economic powers in the early 21st century. Other US industries have found a market in the rupees of India. I'm not easily persuaded to believe Hollywood sees no economic profit in breaking into Indian Hindu marketed films - especially since Bollywood film industry is one of the economies in the film industry (of course not as large as Hollywood). This is like saying Ford motor company would not like to sell cars in India if given the chance.

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Whites have had to live with Christianity for Millenia and only know are they free to express the bad sides of it, which is another reason they are doing it more than other religions.


Christianity is older in Eastern Africa and the Middle East than it is in Northern Europe, or especially the Americas for that matter. Christianity hit the Americas in roughly what scholars and historians like to refer to as the beginning of the modern era (as an aside: the modern era was said to have ended in the 1960's when the US sent man to the moon. We are said now to be in the dawn of a new human era). With the formation of secular nation states e.g. United States, much opportunity was given to be critical of Christianity (granted in the early days of the United States, Catholic churches would at times get burned down, so Protestants were already critical of that stream of Christianity). But something in the culture changed after say the 1950's. Secularism became intolerant, hateful, and evangelical, at least toward Christianity. So it seems to me.

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I can understand the frustration that you believe they are attacking your religion but this is one of the prices you pay for equality (bought about by a Christian society). In all honesty as long as you are comfortabe with your own beliefs why does it matter than anyone else is 'dissing' what you believe in?


I'm not Catholic or Christian. Admittedly I have some emotional investment in this issue because I was raised Catholic and have known very good Catholic and Protestant people (as well as less than "good" ones lol icon_smile.gif ). But I lean more towards Islam today. I like her greater unity, the concept of the umma, her ever faithful women who recieve 100 times less social privilages and respects to equality in their society than Christian women do in their own society, yet don't attack the character of Mohammed, prophet Jesus, and they support their men even the Mujahadeen, this is unlike contemoporary Christian women in general. I'm also very fond of the Apache like esteem Islam has for warriorism. The Afgan war against the Soviets drew Mujahadeen from all over the world: from Europe, from the United States.

To answer your question more directly: My experience in the United States Marine Corps and my experience in the boxing ring, has instilled in me a greater disdain for bullies that don't fight in their weight class. That's how I view Hollywoods ill relation with Catholicism: not fighting in its weight class.
Sephy
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How is there not a market for it? India has close to a billion people. Presently her middle class society along with China's is reshaping the consumer demands in the world. China, India, and Brazil are estimated to become the new economic powers in the early 21st century. Other US industries have found a market in the rupees of India. I'm not easily persuaded to believe Hollywood sees no economic profit in breaking into Indian Hindu marketed films - especially since Bollywood film industry is one of the economies in the film industry (of course not as large as Hollywood). This is like saying Ford motor company would not like to sell cars in India if given the chance.


If you believe there is a market for Anti Hindu/Buddhist films made by hollywood then you are a little more deluded than I first thought. madcool.gif

You say there are almost a Billion people there, but most of them could not afford to go to the cinema at the prices that Hollywood charge. embarassedlaugh.gif
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If you believe there is a market for Anti Hindu/Buddhist films made by hollywood then you are a little more deluded than I first thought. madcool.gif


Ahhhh! I see your point. Very good one too. Very good one. You are right.

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You say there are almost a Billion people there, but most of them could not afford to go to the cinema at the prices that Hollywood charge. embarassedlaugh.gif


Good point again. Though there middle class is already at 60 million, however your first point above cancels that out anyways.


Good points though, Sephy. Usually I don't make as huge a slip in logic as that. But good job for catching it. icon_smile.gif



Peace out!
tangawizi
Just one quick question - why do you watch Hollywood movies like Da Vinci if you so despise their cowardly stance? That's not logical issit?

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QUOTE(tangawizi @ May 25 2006, 02:46 AM) [snapback]1882769[/snapback]

Just one quick question - why do you watch Hollywood movies like Da Vinci if you so despise their cowardly stance? That's not logical issit?


I haven't watched the movie the Da Vinici Code. But I might eventually. As you might understand already I don't hold animosity against a writer for his or her own personal imagination and the way they craft a story together per se. I'm all for those freedoms and encourage them. I take issue with a lack of integrity in the way a writer or artists presents something. It's ok to blend historical facts and truths with fiction and exaggeration. Just have the responsibility and integrity as a writer or artists to tell this your audience or admit it when asked about it.

For example: I started writing a book about two years ago (which I haven't worked on since) which is similar to the Da Vinci Code in so far as it contains historical facts, truths, fiction, and exaggeration. My novel is about a number of things one of which is about Cortes arriving in the New World and I claim him and the Conquestadors were the first catholic communists. I make Cortes (and communist) out to look like a vampire to the Mexica by sipping young boys blood.

While I have some historical facts and even historical truths blend into the book, and while I'm not a fan of communism, I would lack real integrity to push the book off to the public (assuming it was ever published and assuming I ever finish it) as an historical fiction that had real truth in Cortes and the communists being vampires. icon_confused.gif


Anyways to answer your question more clearly and more directly: I will watch some Hollywood movies that may be anti-Catholic for different reasons. One, if it has greater truth and substantial virtue to the point and heart of the movie like the film "The Magdallena Sisters" (spelling and name?) I will watch and be 100% pleased so. Because truth and rigtheous heart trumps everything. Two, I may be unaware at the start it's anti-catholic. Three, I may just be curious. Four, I may just want to feel my selfish desire to be entertained at the moment.

I'm no angel; and in the end I think that's "what's logical."
Sweet Rice
I know why... because Da Vinci Code exposes the Catholics' hypocracy. hhhmmm... Da Vinci's "codes" are nothing but theories.
Ek-ek
Now this movie is one of this year's blockbuster hit.
poknat

Box Office Analysis: ‘Da Vinci Code’ Exceeds Studio Expectations
By Hollywood.com Staff| Monday, May 22, 2006
Photo GalleryHOLLYWOOD - Finally, a summer movie worthy of “blockbuster” status. Despite worldwide protests and mixed reviews, the suspense thriller The Da Vinci Code debuted this weekend with a masterful $77 million at the North American box office, while grossing $224 million worldwide. It marks the best opener for both director Ron Howard and star Tom Hanks.

"Da Vinci opening this big just tells you that people do want to go to the movies, they just need the right movie to go," Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office tracker Exhibitor Relations told The Associated Press. "You had a built-in audience from the book and the awareness levels were so high from this film. You would have to live under a rock not to know this movie was opening."

Coming in a strong second was DreamWorks’ CGI comedy Over the Hedge, which grossed $37.2 million. "We thought we could very easily coexist with The Da Vinci Code and I think the numbers bear that out," Dan Harris, executive vice president at Paramount told AP.

Also opening this weekend was the horror flick See No Evil, starring pro-wrestling star Kane, which came in sixth place with $4.3 million.

The Top 12 pics this week grossed an estimated $153.1 million, up 80.14 percent from last weekend’s total of $85 million but down 2.81 percent from last year's draw of $157.6 million.

The Top Three films at the box office this time last year were: 20th Cent Fox’s Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith, which debuted at No. 1 with $108.4 million in 3,661 theaters, averaging $29,619 per theater; New Line’s Monster-In-Law, which dropped to second place in its second week with $14.3 million in 3,424 theaters, averaging $4,191 per theaters; and Universal’s Kicking & Screaming, which dropped to third place in its second week with $10.7 million in 3,470 theaters, averaging $3,090 per theaters (Click here to read last year's box office report).

BOX OFFICE TOP 10, ESTIMATES
(Source: Exhibitor Relations, Inc.)

No. 1: The Da Vinci Code (Sony, PG-13)
• Gross: $77 million
• Weeks opened: NEW!
• Theaters: 3,735
• Per-theater average: $20,616

No. 2: Over the Hedge (DreamWorks, PG)
• Gross: $37.2 million
• Weeks opened: NEW!
• Theaters: 4,059
• Per-theater average: $9,172

No. 3: Mission: Impossible III (Paramount, PG-13)
• Gross: $11 million (-56%)
• Weeks opened: 3
• Theaters: 3,450 (-609)
• Per-theater average: $3,193
• Cume to date: $103.2 million

No. 4: Poseidon (Warner Bros., PG-13)
• Gross: $9.2 million (-58%)
• Weeks opened: 2
• Theaters: 3,555 (unchanged)
• Per-theater average: $2,588
• Cume to date: $36.7 million

No. 5: R.V. (Sony Pictures, PG)
• Gross: $5.1 million (-49%)
• Weeks opened: 4
• Theaters: 2,925 (-611)
• Per-theater average: $1,744
• Cume to date: $50.4 million

No. 6: See No Evil (Lions Gate, R)
• Gross: $4.3 million
• Weeks opened: NEW!
• Theaters: 1,257
• Per-theater average: $3,461

No. 7: Just My Luck (20th Century Fox, PG-13)
• Gross: $3.3 million (-41%)
• Weeks opened: 2
• Theaters: 2,543
• Per-theater average: $1,327
• Cume to date: $10.4 million

No. 8: An American Haunting (Freestyle Releasing, PG-13)
• Gross: $1.6 million (-53%)
• Weeks opened: 3
• Theaters: 1,265 (-438)
• Per-theater average: $1,315
• Cume to date: $13.6 million

No. 9: United 93 (Universal, R)
• Gross: $1.4 million (-60%)
• Weeks opened: 4
• Theaters: 1,308 (-563)
• Per-theater average: $1,070
• Cume to date: $28.3 million

No. 10: Akeelah and the Bee (Lions Gate, PG)
• Gross: $1 million (-58%)
• Weeks opened: 4
• Theaters: 751 (-425)
• Per-theater average: $1,332
• Cume to date: $15.7 million

OTHER OPENINGS

The King (ThinkFilm, R)
• Gross: $9,100
• Weeks opened: NEW!
• Theaters: 1
• Per-theater average: $9,100

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14 The Da Vinci Code Sony $77,073,388 56.7% 3,735 $20,635 $136,000,000 5/19/2006
Ek-ek
Cracking The Da Vinci Code
http://www.catholic.com/library/cracking_da_vinci_code.asp

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1. The Da Vinci Code: Fact or Fiction?



What is The Da Vinci Code?

The Da Vinci Code is a novel. Its publisher, Doubleday, released it with much fanfare in March 2003 and heavily promoted it. As a result, it debuted at #1 on the New York Times bestseller list and has remained on it since, selling millions of copies. The publisher claims that it is "the bestselling adult novel of all time within a one-year period."

So popular has The Da Vinci Code become that it has created a marketing boom for books related to the novel, and it has become the subject of a major motion picture scheduled to be released in 2005.



What is The Da Vinci Code About?

It is a thriller story involving secret societies, conspiracies, the Catholic Church, and the fictional "truth" about Jesus Christ. Here is the author's own summary:

A renowned Harvard symbologist is summoned to the Louvre Museum to examine a series of cryptic symbols relating to Da Vinci's artwork. In decrypting the code, he uncovers the key to one of the greatest mysteries of all time . . . and he becomes a hunted man.1
During the course of the novel it is alleged that the Catholic Church is perpetuating a major, centuries-long conspiracy to hide the "truth" about Jesus Christ from the public, and it or its agents are willing to stop at nothing, including murder, to do so.


What does Leonardo da Vinci have to do with the story?

Da Vinci is portrayed as a former head of the conspiracy guarding the "truth" about Jesus Christ. In the novel he is said to have planted various codes and secret symbols in his work, particularly in his painting of the Last Supper. According to the novel, this painting depicts Jesus' alleged wife, Mary Magdalene, next to him as a symbol of her prominence in his true teaching. In reality, the figure that Dan Brown identifies as Mary Magdalene is John the Evangelist, who traditionally has been regarded as the youngest of the apostles and so is often pictured in medieval art without a beard.



Why should a Catholic be concerned about the novel?

Although a work of fiction, the book claims to be meticulously researched, and it goes to great lengths to convey the impression that it is based on fact. It even has a "fact" page at the front of the book underscoring the claim of factuality for particular ideas within the book. As a result, many readers-both Catholic and non-Catholic-are taking the book's ideas seriously.

The problem is that many of the ideas that the book promotes are anything but fact, and they go directly to the heart of the Catholic faith. For example, the book promotes these ideas:

Jesus is not God; he was only a man.
Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene.
She is to be worshiped as a goddess.
Jesus got her pregnant, and the two had a daughter.
That daughter gave rise to a prominent family line that is still present in Europe today.
The Bible was put together by a pagan Roman emperor.
Jesus was viewed as a man and not as God until the fourth century, when he was deified by the emperor Constantine.
The Gospels have been edited to support the claims of later Christians.
In the original Gospels, Mary Magdalene rather than Peter was directed to establish the Church.
There is a secret society known as the Priory of Sion that still worships Mary Magdalene as a goddess and is trying to keep the truth alive.
The Catholic Church is aware of all this and has been fighting for centuries to keep it suppressed. It often has committed murder to do so.
The Catholic Church is willing to and often has assassinated the descendents of Christ to keep his bloodline from growing.
Catholics should be concerned about the book because it not only misrepresents their Church as a murderous institution but also implies that the Christian faith itself is utterly false.


Should other Christians be concerned about the book?

Definitely. Only some of the offensive claims of The Da Vinci Code pertain directly to the Catholic Church. The remainder strike at the Christian faith itself. If the book's claims were true, then all forms of Christianity would be false (except perhaps for Gnostic/feminist versions focusing on Mary Magdalene instead of Jesus).



Who is the author of the book?

The author is Dan Brown. He is a former English teacher who has authored three previous books. The first two, Digital Fortress and Deception Point, were techno-thrillers. With his third novel, Angels & Demons, he turned to writing thrillers involving religion and the Vatican. The Da Vinci Code continues in that vein, and it was popular enough to revive sales of the previous books (which had lackluster performance) and pull them onto the bestseller list.

Brown plans to use The Da Vinci Code as the springboard for a new series of similar books using its hero, Robert Langdon, and which will be "set in Paris, London, and Washington D.C."2 In the next novel, slated for release in summer 2005, "Langdon will find himself embroiled in a mystery on U.S. soil. This new novel explores the hidden history of our nation's capital."3



What is the author's religious background?

He claims to be a Christian-of a sort. A "Frequently Asked Questions" page on his web site contains the following exchange:

ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN?
I am, although perhaps not in the most traditional sense of the word. If you ask three people what it means to be Christian, you will get three different answers. Some feel being baptized is sufficient. Others feel you must accept the Bible as immutable historical fact. Still others require a belief that all those who do not accept Christ as their personal savior are doomed to hell. Faith is a continuum, and we each fall on that line where we may. By attempting to rigidly classify ethereal concepts like faith, we end up debating semantics to the point where we entirely miss the obvious-that is, that we are all trying to decipher life's big mysteries, and we're each following our own paths of enlightenment. I consider myself a student of many religions. The more I learn, the more questions I have. For me, the spiritual quest will be a life-long work in progress.4
What is a "symbologist"?

According to Webster's Dictionary, a symbologist is "one who practices, or who is versed in, symbology," the latter being defined as "the art of expressing by symbols." Needless to say, this is not a common term. Brown uses the term not just to refer to a person who has studied symbolism but as the name of a pseudo-academic discipline. In fact, Harvard University has no department of symbology, and thus the idea of making the hero of the novel "a renowned Harvard symbologist" is simply fanciful.



What claims does the book make about the research that was done for it?

On the acknowledgements page of the novel, Brown issues extensive thanks designed to convey the impression that he has done thorough research:

For their generous assistance in the research of this book, I would like to acknowledge the Louvre Museum, the French Ministry of Culture, Project Gutenberg, Bibliothèque Nationale, the Gnostic Society Library, the Department of Paintings Study and Documentation Service at the Lourvre, Catholic World News, Royal Observatory Greenwich, London Record Society, the Muniment Collection at Westminster Abbey, John Pike and the Federation of American Scientists, and the five members of Opus Dei (three active, two former) who recounted their stories, both positive and negative, regarding their experiences inside Opus Dei.
He also thanks a bookstore for "tracking down so many of my research books" as well as a long list of specific individuals.

It is not clear how many of these acknowledgements represent Brown padding the list to make it sound more impressive and enhance his credibility. For example, Project Gutenberg is an online library of public domain texts, and Brown's "acknowledgement" may signify no more than that he looked at a text on one of the Project Gutenberg web sites. The same may well be true of others included in the list. The acknowledgements of museums, libraries, and similar institutions may mean no more than that he used their facilities and that they did nothing special to assist his research.

This, in fact, appears to be the case regarding his acknowledgement of Catholic World News. When contacted by Catholic Answers, the editor of Catholic World News, Phil Lawler, stated:
We were surprised and bemused to learn that Catholic World News had been listed in the acknowledgments of this book.

We cannot recall any contact whatsoever with Dan Brown. He is not listed among our past or present subscribers.

Since many of our stories are free and available to anyone who visits our web site, it is possible that he received some information from Catholic World News-just as anyone can receive information from any public news service. Certainly we never did any research for him or answered any questions from him.
What are the major sources inspiring the book?

The author's web page (www.danbrown.com) lists a partial bibliography for the book, including titles such as:

Holy Blood, Holy Grail by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln
The Messianic Legacy by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln
The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception by Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh
The Goddess in the Gospels: Reclaiming the Sacred Feminine by Margaret Starbird
The Woman with the Alabaster Jar: Mary Magdalene and the Holy Grail by Margaret Starbird
The Templar Revelation: Secret Guardians of the True Identity of Christ by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince
Jesus and the Lost Goddess: The Secret Teachings of the Original Christians by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy
When God Was a Woman by Merlin Stone
The Chalice and the Blade: Our History, Our Future by Riane Eisler
These titles represent works of New Age speculation that run counter to established history, focus on alleged secret societies and conspiracy theories, attempt to reinterpret the Christian faith, and are imbued with radical feminist agendas. Historians and religious scholars do not take these works seriously.

The author of The Da Vinci Code does take them seriously. As the list reveals, he is particularly dependent on the works by Margaret Starbird and the trio of authors Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln. An additional, particularly important source for Brown is the book The Templar Revelation.


Who is Margaret Starbird?

Her web site describes her as a "Roman Catholic scholar" whose researchers alerted her to "an underground stream of esoteric devotees of the 'sacred feminine' incarnate in Mary Magdalene." Afterwards, while still purporting to be Catholic, she began publishing books extolling "the 'Sacred Union' of Jesus and Mary Magdalene." According to her web site:

"Starbird's research traces the origin and extent of the heresy of the Holy Grail, whose medieval adherents believed that Jesus was married and that his wife and child emigrated to Gaul, fleeing persecutions of the infant Christian community in Jerusalem."
"Starbird's new book explodes the myth of the celibate Jesus, revealing truths encoded in symbolic numbers in the Gospels themselves by the authors of the Greek New Testament. This book demonstrates unequivocally that the 'Sacred Union' of Jesus and his Lost Bride was the true cornerstone of early Christianity."
"Starbird's latest book explains how the painful situation in the Roman Catholic priesthood has roots in systematic denial of the 'Bride' as partner and in the insistence on a celibate Jesus, encouraging worship of the ascendant masculine principle stripped of its feminine partner."
"Early Christianity was fundamentally egalitarian but later influences conspired to curtail the role of women in the Church. This text seeks to reclaim the gender-balanced Christianity implicit in the Gospels."
"Her inevitable conclusion is that 'sacred union' was originally at the very heart of the Christian Gospels.5
Who are Baigent, Leigh, and Lincoln?

They are the authors of the book Holy Blood, Holy Grail, which in 1982 popularized in the English-speaking world the idea that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and that his bloodline survives in Europe today under the protectorship of an organization known as the Prieure d'Sion ("the Priory of Sion" in The Da Vinci Code). Authors Carl Olson and Sandra Miesel note:

So fundamental is this book to The Da Vinci Code that Dan Brown borrowed two of the authors' names for his character Leigh Teabing (whose surname is an anagram of Baigent). Both Baigent and Lincoln are Masonic historians while Leigh is a fiction writer. . . .

Brown borrows the Holy Blood, Holy Grail theses with both hands. His fictional Priory likewise guards the "Grail Secret" of the Holy Blood-with documents to prove it-as well as the precious bones of the Magdalen.6
After the success of Holy Blood, Holy Grail, the trio went on to author the book Messianic Legacy, which continued the themes of their prior work but with modifications. Subsequently the authors have produced a number of other books related to The Da Vinci Code and its themes.


What is The Templar Revelation?

This is yet another iconoclastic New Age book. In the words of one reviewer, L. D. Meagher, the book attempts to convince you that:

Everything you know about Christianity is wrong. The Nativity is a myth, the ministry of Jesus has been misrepresented, and the Crucifixion may have been a publicity stunt that went awry. The truth has been purposely suppressed for two millennia by men who were bent on promoting their own agenda, beginning with early church leaders including the apostles Peter and Paul. Who says so? The same people who claim the Shroud of Turin is a photograph of Leonardo da Vinci.7
That is correct. In their prior book, Turin Shroud: In Whose Image?, Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince maintain that the Shroud of Turin is a fake made with a primitive photographic process developed by Leonardo da Vinci and used to record his own image on cloth. Now they're back with a new book that picks up where their prior one left off:
Their research into the shroud convinced them that Leonardo was a leading member of a mysterious society called the Priory of Sion. They believe the Priory arose in the Middle Ages alongside another secret order, the Knights Templar. Unlike the Templars, however, Picknett and Prince claim the Priory of Sion is alive and well and carefully manipulating events today.8
As one might suspect, the work is far from scholarly. Meagher characterizes the authors' way of evaluating evidence as follows:
That which seems to have neither merit nor meaning must be both true and vitally important. Armed with this upside-down viewpoint, Picknett and Price plunge into an investigation of the shadow world of heresy and occultism. . . .

Nothing in The Templar Revelation rises to anything like the level of "definite proof." Instead, its conclusions are based on the flimsiest of premises, which are supported by the slimmest of indirect and circumstantial evidence or, just as often, by the assertion that the lack of evidence justifies their conclusions.

In the end, Picknett and Prince propose that a murky conspiracy has been at work for nearly 2,000 years. Two conspiracies in fact: one, involving all denominations of the Christian faith and spearheaded by the Vatican, suppresses the truth while the other, stage-managed by the Priory of Sion, hides it.9
It is upon The Templar Revelation that Dan Brown, author of The Da Vinci Code, is largely dependent for his claims regarding Leonardo da Vinci.


2. What The Da Vinci Code Claims



What specific claims does the book make on its "fact" page?

The "fact" page asserts factuality for certain claims regarding the Priory of Sion, Opus Dei (a major focus of the book), and the descriptions found in the book of art, architecture, and rituals.

Although the "fact" page presents the book's most overt claims to accuracy, the novel itself implies that much more is factual than what is stated on this page. The book is written in a way that suggests that its claims regarding the Priory of Sion, the Catholic Church, and Christ are to be taken seriously. The author's own remarks outside of the book suggest the same. On his personal web page, he speaks of the historical "secret" he reveals in The Da Vinci Code and states:

The secret I reveal is one that has been whispered for centuries. It is not my own. Admittedly, this may be the first time the secret has been unveiled within the format of a popular thriller, but the information is anything but new.10
What does the book claim regarding the Priory of Sion?

According to the "fact" page, the Priory of Sion-a European secret society founded in 1099-is a real organization. In 1975, Paris's Bibliothèque Nationale discovered parchments known as Les Dossiers Secretes, identifying numerous members of the Priory of Sion, including Sir Isaac Newton, Botticelli, Victor Hugo, and Leonardo da Vinci.

The novel goes on to depict the Priory of Sion as a secret society defending the bloodline of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene. Because it allegedly holds the secret of this bloodline, it is persecuted by the Catholic Church. The organization also is devoted to worshiping "the sacred feminine" and holds orgies as a form of ritual worship.



What were Les Dossiers Secretes?

They are a group of documents found in the Bibliothèque Nationale that ostensibly established the historical pedigree of the Priory of Sion secret society. The documents were popularized in the 1970s and formed the basis of the books Holy Blood, Holy Grail, The Messianic Legacy, and, later, The Da Vinci Code. The documents were created by a group headed by a convicted confidence trickster named Pierre Plantard.

Though The Da Vinci Code continues to regard the documents as authentic, many other writers of esoteric "history" have acknowledged that they are fakes. Even the authors of Holy Blood, Holy Grail and The Messianic Legacy later came to question them. Authors Carl Olson and Sandra Miesel note:

The Messianic Legacy recounts much hugger-mugger about missing documentation and forged signatures until Baigent and company begin to doubt Plantard's candor. Well they should have, because the dossiers give every appearance of having been "salted" into the library with pseudonymous by-lines and falsified publication dates. The process somewhat resembles recent cases of people inserting spurious information about works of art into existing library catalogues to create a false pedigree for their merchandise.

Dan Brown's other major source of esoteric ideas, The Templar Revelation, dismisses the dossiers as fabrications.11
What is the real story on the Priory of Sion?

The Priory of Sion was a club founded in 1956 by four young Frenchmen. Two of its members were André Bonhomme (who was president of the club when it was founded) and Pierre Plantard (who previously had been sentenced to six months in prison for fraud and embezzlement).

The group's name is based on a local mountain in France (Col du Mont Sion), not Mount Zion in Jerusalem. It has no connection with the Crusaders, the Templars, or previous movements incorporating "Sion" into their names.

The organization broke up after a short time, but in later years Pierre Plantard revived it, claimed he was the "grand master" or leader of the organization, and began making outrageous claims regarding its antiquity, prior membership, and true purposes. It was he who claimed that the organization stemmed from the Crusades, he (in conjunction with later associates) who composed and salted Les Dossiers Secretes in the Bibliothèque Nationale, and he who created the story that the organization was guarding a secret royal bloodline that could one day return to political power.



What evidence is there that this is the history of the Priory?

After Plantard's claims regarding the Priory came to public attention, his former associates contradicted him. In a 1996 statement made to the BBC by the Priory of Sion's original president, André Bonhomme stated:

The Priory of Sion doesn't exist anymore. We were never involved in any activities of a political nature. It was four friends who came together to have fun. We called ourselves the Priory of Sion because there was a mountain by the same name close-by. I haven't seen Pierre Plantard in over twenty years and I don't know what he's up to but he always had a great imagination. I don't know why people try to make such a big thing out of nothing.12
The BBC itself concluded:
There's no evidence for a Priory of Sion until the 1950s; to find it, you go to the little town of St. Julien. Under French law every new club or association must register itself with the authorities, and that's why there's a dossier here showing that a Priory of Sion filed the proper forms in 1956. According to a founding member, this eccentric association took its name not from Jerusalem but from a nearby mountain (Col du Mont Sion, alt. 786 m). The dossier also notes that the Priory's self-styled grand master, Pierre Plantard, who is central to this story, has done time in jail.13
For an extensive chronology of the events surrounding Pierre Plantard, the Priory of Sion, and its eventual demise, see the online materials assembled by researcher Paul Smith at:
www.priory-of-sion.com


What evidence is there that Pierre Plantard was a confidence trickster?

Paul Smith notes:

Pierre Plantard was sentenced on December 17, 1953, by the court of St. Julien-en-Genevois to six months in prison for breaking the French law relating to "Abus de Confiance" (fraud and embezzlement).

The evidence for this is found in a letter written by the Mayor of Annemasse in 1956 to the sub-prefect of St. Julien-en-Genevois, which can be found in the file that contains the 1956 statutes of the Priory of Sion and the 1956 registration documents of the Priory of Sion:
In our archives we have a note from the I.N.S.S.E dated 15 December 1954 advising us that Monsieur Pierre Plantard was sentenced on 17 December 1953 by the court in St. Julien-en-Genevois to six months imprisonment for a 'breach of trust' under articles 406 and 408 of the Penal Code.14
In the 1980s, Plantard asserted that he had spent a number of years in retirement from the Priory of Sion, during which time a man named Roger-Patrice Pelat had served as its grand master. Following the death of Pelat, Plantard claimed to have regained his position as Priory grand master.

Pelat, however, had been involved in a corruption scandal, and Plantard eventually became involved in the investigation of this scandal by the French courts. Paul Smith notes:
When Judge Thierry Jean-Pierre became the presiding French judge heading the enquiry into the Patrice Pelat financial corruption scandal of the 1980s, Plantard voluntarily came forward during the 1990s offering evidence to the enquiry, claiming that Pelat had been a "Grand Master of the Priory of Sion." The judge ordered a search of Plantard's house, which uncovered a hoard of Priory of Sion documents, claiming Plantard to be the "true King of France." The judge subsequently detained Plantard for a forty-eight hour interview and, after asking Plantard to swear on oath, Plantard admitted that he made everything up; whereupon Plantard was given a serious warning and advised not to "play games" with the French judicial system. This happened in September 1993, and it was all reported in the French press of the period. This was the reason for the final termination of the Priory of Sion in 1993.15
Pierre Plantard died in 2002.


How does the Priory of Sion presented in The Da Vinci Code compare with the Priory of Sion co-founded by Plantard?

Olson and Miesel note that, in order to suit his own agenda of promoting worship of "the Sacred Feminine," Brown adapted the Priory of Sion as presented in Holy Blood, Holy Grail and similar works:

Spurious documents, interviews, and admiring books [concerning the actual Priory] multiplied. Lists of famous grand masters were produced. Goddess-worship, however, was not part of the agenda, unlike Brown's version of the Priory. In 1975, Plantard began calling himself "Plantard de St. Clair" to pretend a connection with a noble Scottish family involved with Freemasonry who'd built the strange Chapel of Rosslyn near Edinburgh. (This is why The Da Vinci Code claims the blood of Christ survived most directly in the Plantard and St. Clair families [260, 442].)16
Despite The Da Vinci Code's indirect acknowledgement of Plantard, the secret society at the core of the book remains a product of the fevered imagination of a convicted con man. Olson and Miesel conclude:
Although the false history of the Priory has been repeatedly exposed in France and on the BBC in 1996, not to mention tireless debunking by researcher Paul Smith since at least 1985, Dan Brown wants his readers to think it's real and that its preposterous claims are genuine. The commercial need to feed the public's taste for conspiracy clearly is trumping truth.17
What does The Da Vinci Code claim regarding Opus Dei?

According to the "fact" page:

The Vatican prelature known as Opus Dei is a deeply devout Catholic sect that has been the topic of recent controversy due to reports of brainwashing, coercion, and a dangerous practice known as "corporal mortification." Opus Dei has just completed construction of a $47 million National Headquarters at 243 Lexington Avenue in New York City.
The novel goes on to describe Opus Dei as "a Catholic Church" and portrays it as an order of monks with members serving as assassins, one of whom (a "hulking albino" named Silas) is a key character in the book.


What is the history of the real-world Opus Dei?

According to Opus Dei's U.S. communications director, Brian Finnerty:

The real Opus Dei was founded in Spain in 1928 by a Catholic priest, St. Josemaría Escrivá, with the purpose of promoting lay holiness. It began to grow with the support of the local bishops there and was approved as a secular institute of pontifical right by the Holy See in 1950. Opus Dei's work has been blessed and encouraged by Popes John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I, and John Paul II. In 1982, John Paul II established it as a personal prelature of the Catholic Church after careful study of its role in the Church's mission. The culmination of the Church's support for Opus Dei and its message came with the 2002 canonization of its founder. Pope John Paul has called Opus Dei's founder "the saint of ordinary life."18
How does the real-world Opus Dei compare to the one in The Da Vinci Code?

There is a large number of inaccuracies in the picture of Opus Dei painted by the novel. Some of the most significant are catalogued and critiqued by Finnerty:

The author evinces a remarkable lack of understanding of the structure of the Catholic Church and its various component institutions. Besides his mischaracterization of Opus Dei as "a sect," he variously calls it "a Catholic Church," a "congregation," a "personal Prelature of the Pope himself," and a "Personal Prelature of Vatican City."
Calling Opus Dei "a Catholic Church" makes no sense. Opus Dei provides supplemental spiritual formation rather than ordinary diocesan functions, except in a few isolated cases in which the Pope or a bishop has asked Opus Dei to take care of some task. Moreover, it is intrinsic to the concept "catholic" that there can be only one Catholic Church, the Catholic Church, and Opus Dei is a fully integrated part of it.
Congregation is also a term that cannot be applied to Opus Dei, since it refers to religious. The very raison d'etre of Opus Dei is to provide a way of holiness for people who are not called to life in a religious order. For the same reason, the depiction of the Opus Dei villain as a monk in robes and Opus Dei's centers as cloistered residence halls where people withdraw from the world to live a life of prayer is the exact opposite of reality.
The various permutations of "personal prelature" the author uses to describe Opus Dei are redolent of something like the papal equivalent of a personal army, i.e., an extra-legal operation not subject to the rest of the Church's established authorities. "Personal" does not mean that Opus Dei belongs personally to the Pope or Vatican officials but refers to the fact that the prelature's jurisdiction applies to persons rather than a particular territory.
Opus Dei places special emphasis on helping lay people seek holiness in their daily lives. It has no monks, nor any members anything like the novel's creepy albino character named Silas.
The author's descriptions of Opus Dei's "practices," as represented by Silas's bloody purging rituals, are at best grossly distorted and at worst fabrications. He has taken pious accounts of the penances of some of the Church's great saints, including St. Josemaría Escrivá, and transformed them into a monstrous horror show.
Likewise, teaching the faith, giving spiritual guidance, and being a Christian witness ("brainwashing," "coercion," or "recruiting," for the author) are fundamental aspects of the Christian faith, not just Opus Dei practices.
The idea that Opus Dei entered a corrupt bargain with Pope John Paul II-bailing out the Vatican Bank in exchange for status as a personal prelature-is offensive and has no basis in reality.19
Has Opus Dei responded to the publisher of The Da Vinci Code regarding its misrepresentation in the book?

It has. When contacted by Catholic Answers, Finnerty, Opus Dei's U.S. communications director, explained that the organization sent a letter of protest to the publisher:

Shortly before the publication of The Da Vinci Code, we sent a letter to Doubleday pointing out some of the numerous misrepresentations in the novel and explaining that the "portrayal of Opus Dei in the book is false and inaccurate in almost every way."

The letter explained what the real Opus Dei is all about: "The basic activity of the prelature of Opus Dei is giving spiritual guidance to help them live the Gospel in their daily lives. This past October [2002], Pope John Paul II canonized Opus Dei's founder, St. Josemaria Escriva, before several hundred thousand people, just a fraction of those who have benefited from Opus Dei's spiritual formation."
Whether the organization will take legal action against the publisher remains to be seen.


What does The Da Vinci Code claim regarding the origin of the Bible?

The book states: "The Bible is a product of man, my dear. Not of God. . . . The Bible, as we know it today, was collated by the pagan Roman emperor Constantine the Great" (231).

This is false. The process by which the Bible formed was one that took time; it was not collated at any one time. Nor did Constantine have anything to do with the process, either before or after he converted to Christianity.



What evidence is there that the Bible formed independently of Constantine?

The Old Testament canon had been forming for centuries. Jesus and the apostles already recognized the authority of the Old Testament writings that existed in their time, as illustrated by the following verses:

"And beginning with Moses and all the prophets, he interpreted to them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself" (Luke 24:27).
"You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness to me" (John 5:39).
"And Paul went in, as was his custom, and for three weeks he argued with them from the scriptures, explaining and proving that it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead" (Acts 17:2-3).
"From infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus" (2 Tim. 3:15, NIV).
In the first century the apostles and their associates wrote the books of the New Testament, which were passed down to succeeding generations of Christians and read in the churches. In the second and third centuries, Gnostic heretics began to manufacture writings that falsely claimed to be from the apostles, but since they had not been passed down in the churches from the beginning, they were rejected. In response to these new, false writings the churches drew up lists of the authentic books that had been handed down from the apostles. A famous list of the sacred writings from the mid-second century is known as the Muratorian Canon.

The process by which the canon of Scripture was formed was largely complete by the time of Constantine (the early fourth century), and he made no contribution to it. There were a few Old Testament books (known today as the deuterocanonical books or "apocrypha") that continued to be discussed after Constantine's time, into the late fourth century-further illustrating that he did not collate the Bible. No Bible scholar holds that Constantine played such a role in the development of Scripture. Dan Brown is simply wrong.

To view some of the early lists of the books of the Bible, see "The Old Testament Canon" at:
www.catholic.com/library/Old_Testament_Canon.asp


What does The Da Vinci Code claim regarding the early Church's recognition of Christ's divinity?

Referring to the First Council of Nicaea, which took place in A.D. 325, The Da Vinci Code states:

Until that moment in history, Jesus was viewed by His followers as a mortal prophet . . . a great and powerful man, but a man nonetheless. A mortal. . . . By officially endorsing Jesus as the Son of God, Constantine turned Jesus into a deity.20
It is true that Constantine, following his conversion to Christ, presided over the First Council of Nicaea, but it is not true that Constantine "turned Jesus into a deity" or that Christians had not viewed Jesus as God prior to this event.

Constantine had called the Council together to settle a dispute that had arisen when a priest from Egypt named Arius began to deny that Jesus was God, causing a scandal by repudiating the faith of Christians everywhere. Arius gained a number of followers (known as Arians) and the controversy between the Arians and traditional Christians grew so sharp that the emperor called the Council to settle the matter. Personally, Constantine tended to support the position of the Arians, but he recognized the authority of the bishops in articulating the Christian faith, and the bishops of the Council reaffirmed the traditional Christian teaching that Jesus was fully divine. It was thus the bishops of the Council of Nicaea who reaffirmed the historic Christian position against Arius and his followers. Constantine recognized their authority to do so in spite of the fact he would have preferred a different outcome.


What evidence is there that Christians regarded Christ as God before the Council of Nicaea?

Christ's divinity is stressed repeatedly in the New Testament. For example, we are told that Jesus' opponents sought to kill him because he "called God his Father, making himself equal with God" (John 5:18).

When quizzed about how he has special knowledge of Abraham, Jesus replies, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am" (John 8:58), invoking and applying to himself the personal name of God-"I Am" (Ex. 3:14). His audience understood exactly what he was claiming about himself. "So they took up stones to throw at him; but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple" (John 8:59).

In John 20:28, Thomas falls at Jesus' feet, exclaiming, "My Lord and my God!" And Paul tells us that Jesus chose to be born in humble, human form even though he could have remained in equal glory with the Father, for he was "in the form of God" (Phil. 2:6).



The Da Vinci Code asserts that the canon of Scripture was altered at the order of Constantine to support his new doctrine21. How do you answer this?

Brown is asserting this in order to deny the evidence that exists against his position. He cannot back this claim up, for there is no evidence for it whatsoever. No Scripture scholar-Christian or non-Christian-supports this position. There is a number of reasons for this, some of which we will see below, but one reason is that the writings of the Church Fathers (and even non-Christian historians) before the time of Constantine show that Christians regarded Jesus as God.

Consider the following quotations, all of which predate the Council of Nicaea:

Ignatius of Antioch: "For our God, Jesus Christ, was conceived by Mary in accord with God's plan: of the seed of David, it is true, but also of the Holy Spirit" (Letter to the Ephesians 18:2 [A.D. 110]).
Tatian the Syrian: "We are not playing the fool, you Greeks, nor do we talk nonsense, when we report that God was born in the form of a man" (Address to the Greeks 21 [A.D. 170]).
Clement of Alexandria: "The Word, then, the Christ, is the cause both of our ancient beginning-for he was in God-and of our well-being. And now this same Word has appeared as man. He alone is both God and man, and the source of all our good things" (Exhortation to the Greeks 1:7:1 [A.D. 190]).
Tertullian: "God alone is without sin. The only man who is without sin is Christ; for Christ is also God" (The Soul 41:3 [A.D. 210]).
Origen: "Although he was God, he took flesh; and having been made man, he remained what he was: God" (The Fundamental Doctrines 1:0:4 [A.D. 225]).
For more quotations illustrating the same point, see:
www.catholic.com/library/Divinity_of_Christ.asp


What does The Da Vinci Code claim regarding Jesus' relationship to Mary Magdalene?

The book claims that the two were married. In fact, it claims that Jesus got Mary Magdalene pregnant, and the two had a daughter. The book states:

Mary Magdalene was pregnant at the time of the crucifixion. For the safety of Christ's unborn child, she had no choice but to flee the Holy Land. . . . It was there in France that she gave birth to a daughter. Her name was Sarah.22
Later the book claims that this union gave rise to a bloodline that still exists in prominent European families (including one of the book's main characters, Sophie Neveu). It also claims that the Catholic Church knows about this and has covered it up for centuries, even resorting to murdering Christ's own descendants to protect the secret:
Behold . . . the greatest cover-up in human history. Not only was Jesus Christ married, but He was a father. . . .

The early Church feared that if the lineage were permitted to grow, the secret of Jesus and Magdalene would eventually surface and challenge the fundamental Catholic doctrine-that of a divine Messiah who did not consort with women or engage in sexual union. . . . Many of the Vatican's Grail quests here were in fact stealth missions to erase members of the royal bloodline.23
How do you respond to these claims?

It is irresponsible and offensive for Brown to impugn the faith of countless Catholics in this fashion. He has no solid evidence to support these contentions, and in the absence of such evidence it is unacceptable to smear the faith of millions with these charges.

A comparable smear would be saying that Lutherans have been murdering the descendants of Luther or that Jewish leaders have been murdering the descendants of Moses. If such charges were made, particularly with no evidence, they would be regarded instantly as vicious and bigoted slanders against what other people hold sacred.

Claiming that Catholics have been killing the descendants of their God is a vile and unacceptable assault on their faith. People of all faiths should regard Dan Brown as the viciously bigoted man that it takes to make this kind of charge.



What is one to make of The Da Vinci Code's specific claim that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene?

It is impossible to take this claim seriously.

The reason that Brown and a handful of others (chiefly New Age authors) have tried to identify Mary Magdalene as the wife of Jesus is obvious: She is one of the few women disciplines of Christ who is prominent, whose name we know, and whom we don't know was married to someone else. Other female disciples of Jesus are known to be married to others (e.g., Joanna the wife of Chuza [Luke 8:3]) or are too insignificant ("the other Mary" [Matt. 28:1]) or we don't know their names (the Syro-Phoenecian woman [Matt. 15:28]). If one wants to force Jesus into the role of being married, Mary Magdalene is one of the few prominent and (seemingly) available women to be pushed into the role of being his wife.

Furthermore, there is nothing in the New Testament that states or implies that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene. According to the New Testament, Mary of Magdala was a devout follower of Christ and one of the first witnesses of his Resurrection (cf. Matt. 28:1), but not his wife. There is no evidence in the New Testament or the writings of the Church Fathers that she was married to Jesus.

Jesus also said things that indicated that he wasn't married to anyone. He explained that some voluntarily refrain from marrying in order to be fully consecrated to God. He says that they "have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake" (Matt. 19:12). He portrays voluntary abstention from marriage as the highest form of consecration, and as the spiritual leader of the Christian movement, it would be strange for him to hold up such a standard if he himself did not meet it.

Moreover, the early Church was unanimous in regarding Jesus as unmarried. This is not a later doctrine of the Church Fathers but something found in the New Testament itself. The authors of the New Testament regularly depict the Church as "the bride of Christ" (2 Cor. 11:2; Eph. 5:21-33; cf. Rev. 21:9-10). This metaphor would never have developed if a flesh-and-blood "Mrs. Jesus" was living just down the street. Only if Christ was celibate would the Church have come to be depicted metaphorically as his bride.



What does Brown claim regarding Mary Magdalene's role in the early Church?

Brown asserts that in the original Gospels, Mary Magdalene rather than Peter was directed to establish the Church:



According to these unaltered gospels, it was not Peter to whom Christ gave directions with which to establish the Christian Church. It was Mary Magdalene. . . . Jesus was the original feminist.24
Again, there is no basis for this claim. None of the early manuscripts of the Gospels nor any of the quotations of the Gospels in the writings of the early Church Fathers suggest that anything of the kind was said at any stage in the history of the Gospels. Brown's assertion that "Jesus was the original feminist" is simply pandering to modern secular sensibilities. It in no way represents the historical evidence that exists.

Appealing to prior "unaltered" gospels that had not been doctored by Constantine or others in the early Church is fatuous. There is no evidence that Constantine ordered any copies of Scripture to be changed. If one wishes to claim that he did give such an order, one should be able to back it up with a citation from a contemporary source, but no such passage can be found. None of the surviving records of the period-or even the records of later centuries-record Constantine or any one else attempting to alter the texts of the existing canon to change this or any other doctrine. Brown simply has no evidence to back up his claim.

If Constantine or any one else had tried to change Scripture, Christians would have refused. The Christian Church had just come through an age of persecution in which Christians had been burned at the stake for refusing to deny their Lord and the Scriptures he gave them. To allow those writings to be mutilated would be unthinkable, and any attempt to change them would have resulted in an enormous controversy that would be mentioned in the writings of the period.

It would have been a practical impossibility to change Scripture, because thousands of copies were in existence all across the Mediterranean world, from Europe to North Africa. There was no central registry of who had copies of the Bible, so there was no way to track them down and edit them. There were simply too many copies floating in circulation.

But even if all of the copies then known to exist had been tracked down and altered, this would not have affected the copies of Scripture that by this time already had been lost. Many of the early manuscripts of Scripture that we now have were waiting, lost, in the desert until their discovery by modern archaeology. But when we look at these copies, they teach the same doctrines as later copies and show no evidence of having been censored.

Moreover, the writings of the early Church Fathers from before the time of Constantine show the same teachings and quote the Gospels as saying the same things as in the canonical Gospels.


3. Responding to Fans of The Da Vinci Code



How can I help others understand how offensive The Da Vinci Code is?

Point out the offensive claims made by the book, particularly the ones regarding Jesus and early Christianity. Point out that the claims are false-that Brown does not have the evidence to support them. The idea that Jesus had a wife is absurd. One of the major themes of the New Testament is that of the Church as the Bride of Christ. This theme would never have arisen in Christian circles if Jesus had a human wife. It was the fact that he was not married in the ordinary sense that led to the Church being described as his Bride. What Brown is doing amounts to smearing the most important and sacred beliefs of millions of people for the sake of getting his novel on the bestseller list.

To help others understand how offensive these are, encourage fans of the novel to imagine parallel situations involving other religions or groups of people. For example, a major publisher would never produce a novel that portrayed the Jewish faith as perpetrating a murderous, centuries-long, global conspiracy. Such a book would be met immediately with outraged protests and the author and publishers publicly branded as religious bigots. By producing this novel smearing Christianity, Brown and Doubleday show that they have a double standard and harbor anti-Catholic, anti-Christian prejudice.

There is even a fairly close parallel here: In spinning its conspiracy tale, The Da Vinci Code relies on information provided by documents that are established forgeries: Les Dossiers Secretes. Doubleday's release of the book is comparable to a major publisher releasing a novel based on anti-Jewish forgeries such as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. If the publisher would turn down an anti-Jewish conspiracy novel based on these documents, it should do the same with The Da Vinci Code. The fact that it did not do so reveals a double standard and bigotry toward Christianity on its part.



How can I respond to the charge that The Da Vinci Code is "just fiction"?

It isn't a defense to say that The Da Vinci Code is a work of fiction. Fiction can't change the basic facts about major historical figures without being subject to criticism. People would be outraged if Doubleday printed a novel portraying Adolph Hitler in a positive light. Christians have a right to be outraged when the basic historical facts about Christ are falsified. The criticism will be even more intense when a publisher releases a book parodying the most sacred beliefs of others in this fashion.

Further, as we have seen in this special report, the book takes great pains to create the appearance of factuality, including placing the infamous "fact" page at the beginning of the novel. Brown has stressed the ostensible accuracy of the book on his web site and in interviews. This is not a case where an author and a publisher have produced an ordinary novel. They have gone to great lengths to mislead people into thinking that the novel has a historical basis. They deserve especially sharp criticism for this, and when criticism is made they cannot hypocritically hide behind the "It's just fiction" allegation after having made such extensive efforts to convince the reader that it is not "just fiction."



Where can I go for more information on the subjects treated in The Da Vinci Code?

Several works respond to The Da Vinci Code and the works on which it is based. Many of these are available on the Internet. Others take the form of recently published books and articles.



Books:

Catholic Answers particularly recommends The Da Vinci Hoax: Exposing the Errors in The Da Vinci Code by Carl Olson and Sandra Miesel.
Also useful are De-Coding DaVinci: The Facts behind the Fiction of The Da Vinci Code by Amy Welborn and Fact and Fiction in The Da Vinci Code by Steven Kellmeyer.
The preceding books are by Catholic authors, but Evangelical authors also have responded to Brown's novel. Though their books may contain swipes at Catholicism, they also contain useful information for refuting The Da Vinci Code. Particularly noteworthy on the Evangelical side is the book The Truth behind The Da Vinci Code: A Challenging Response to the Bestselling Novel by Richard Abanes and Breaking The Da Vinci Code: Answers to the Questions Everybody's Asking by Darrell Bock.
Articles:

Carl Olson has authored or participated in authoring several articles on The Da Vinci Code. He maintains a list of online versions of these articles on his web site at www.carl-olson.com/abouttdvc.html.
Sandra Miesel has written articles as well, including "Dismantling The Da Vinci Code" (www.crisismagazine.com/september2003/feature1.htm).
For a noteworthy piece by Evangelical author Ben Witherington, see "The Da Vinci Code" (Biblical Archaeology Review, May/June 2004).
Internet Sites:

On the Priory of Sion: www.priory-of-sion.com
On the Knights Templar: www.newadvent.org/cathen/14493a.htm
On Opus Dei: www.opusdei.org
Dan Brown's home page: www.danbrown.com

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Footnotes:


www.danbrown.com/novels/davinci_code/faqs.html.
www.danbrown.com/meet_dan/index.html.
www.danbrown.com/meet_dan/faq.html.
www.danbrown.com/novels/davinci_code/faqs.html.
www.telisphere.com/~starbird.
Carl Olson and Sandra Miesel, The Da Vinci Hoax (San Francisco: Ignatius, 2004).
L. D. Meagher, "Book Makes 'X-Files' Look Like 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington'" (www.cnn.com/books/reviews/9902/19/templar).
Ibid.
Ibid.
www.danbrown.com/novels/davinci_code/faqs.html.
Olson and Miesel, The Da Vinci Hoax.
André Bonhomme, as quoted in Paul Smith, "The Real Historical Origin of the Priory of Sion" (http://priory-of-sion.com/psp/id43.html).
Ibid.
Ibid.
Paul Smith, "Pierre Plantard, Judge Thierry Jean-Pierre and the End of the Priory of Sion in 1993" (http://priory-of-sion.com/psp/id70.html).
Olson and Miesel, The Da Vinci Hoax.
Ibid.
Brian Finnerty, Opus Dei in The Da Vinci Code (unpublished manuscript).
Ibid.
Dan Brown, The Da Vinci Code (New York: Doubleday, 2003), 233.
Ibid., 234.
Ibid., 255.
Ibid., 249, 257.
Ibid., 248.
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