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forrestcat
Had a chat recently with my roomates about punishments at school.........and their names which are kinda funny... Talktohand.gif

1. Crocodile(Buaya)- u have to crawl on hot cement.

2.Parachute- kinda ridiculous. U have to fly around the field like aeroplanes and jump into mud...apparently..this punishment is done during recess as a form of entertainmant to students.

3. Frog leap(lompat katak)- if u come late to class....u have to jump like a frog to ur class.I dunno, those doing the frog leap always laugh doing it... eventhough it's a punishment embarassedlaugh.gif

4.Duck walk(jalan itik)- walk like a duck around the school...usually for late arrivals at school.Painful.

5. Psycho- you get yelled by the teacher in front of the assembly.Scary eek.gif

6. Moustache(Misai)- usually for girls who did not finish their homework, the teacher will draw a 'misai' on their face with a black marker.

7. Marathon- u run 7 times around the field.

8. Gotong-royong- u pick up rubbish around the school.

9. Toilet cleaning(Cuci tandas)- for students caught smoking...since many smokers throw the cigarette packets into the toilet...causing serious plumbing problems and hardship for the 'makcik cleaners'..they have to put their hands into the toilet to retrieve the packets...

10. Train(Ketapi)- mass punishment...students put their hands on the shoulders on the students in front of them and have to walk in a straight inside the dirty and mussy monsoon drains....and do the duck walk when space is tight.

11.The squat(Ketuk-ketampi)- students are to squat and stand repeatedly while holding their ears in front of the assembly or class.....very funny to those watching but humiliating to those doing it.

These are a collection of punishments from the schools my friends and I attend. Any strange punishments u have seen at ur school...please add. icon_twisted.gif
tangawizi
For being talkative, we were made to hold a piece of chalk between our lips.

Do u agree that students shd be punished by teachers in schools?

Nowadays, such a thing is no longer possible in Singapore. Students have taken their teachers to court successfully.. it's quite a big thing.
forrestcat
QUOTE(tangawizi @ May 2 2006, 08:47 PM) [snapback]1811299[/snapback]

For being talkative, we were made to hold a piece of chalk between our lips.

Do u agree that students shd be punished by teachers in schools?

Nowadays, such a thing is no longer possible in Singapore. Students have taken their teachers to court successfully.. it's quite a big thing.


I dunno...as long the students dun get hurt..it's OK

Most of the punishments I listed are from the boarding schools my roomates attend..I guess these kinda punishments are necessary at such schools to keep students at their place.

National schools in cities usually have light punishments like picking rubbish and stuff...coz the concern parents keep close watch on the schools.....parents of a form 2 classmate of mine actually came to the school to protest coz the Principal, who teach us BM yelled at him.... I mean that's so 'mengada-ngada'.....I supported the Principal.

I believe harsh punishments are typical in rural schools and parents actually welcome it.

Do u know that 20-30 years ago...some parents even give the teachers special canes and tell the teachers to cane their children if they do anything bad at school... embarassedlaugh.gif
pancaindera
QUOTE(forrestcat @ May 2 2006, 08:32 AM) [snapback]1810877[/snapback]

1. Crocodile(Buaya)- u have to crawl on hot cement.


this one sounded so brutal la. i was imagining boiling non-dry cement.

i remember in primary, one teacher used to 'strip' pupils in front of the class for misbehaving, or at least threaten to strip us. come to think of it, this is so very wrong.
another, a teacher uses a rubber band and flicks it hard at the pupils lip, as punishment for being noisy.

in secondary, just the normal rotan on the arse biggthumpup.gif

samheisfl
Helicopter - bend down and put pointing finger on the ground and moves in circle motion.. well the finger will
be your center of the circle..

Starlite - Put pen or spoon or even finger on forehead.. Pull it as far as you can and let it go.. For sure your
forehead will 'lebam'..
yana19384
hehehe..funny to read all that punishments in school...its kinda cute but some are kind of nasty...

i dont remember what punishments were available back then in my school...but to made stand in front of the class or sit next to the teacher are what i remember...nothing bad
forrestcat
I once went to a BTN camp where they made us go through some strange physical manoeuvres.

They make sit in a straight line. Then each of us put our legs on the lap of the person in front of us, and then walk on out hands ..we all have to walk on our hands!!!!. It's kinda funny but then, we had to do it on tarmac......the pain on our hands was excruciating..!!! It was no punishment..just some physical and emotional test.

This could make a nasty mass punishement...the "Ulat Bulu'= Caterpillar.
yana19384
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nenaenamorada
really?? u have punishments at school???
in my country teacher can go to jail coz of that...
but i think sometimes is needed... my parents are teachers n i know how kids can b n
sometimes deserve it... but here... impossible!!
forrestcat
QUOTE(nenaenamorada @ May 18 2006, 07:28 PM) [snapback]1861459[/snapback]

really?? u have punishments at school???
in my country teacher can go to jail coz of that...
but i think sometimes is needed... my parents are teachers n i know how kids can b n
sometimes deserve it... but here... impossible!!


Dun u have detention there in North America...I imagine Mexico would have students eat very hot chilli if they are naughty at school...huhu...

There is one punishment that I am sure we all hate...fines..fines...fines....RM1 fine for leaving bottles around and 20 sen for not wearing nametags etc........this punishment is still in effect at my former school...I really hate those prefects for taking my money away... bawling.gif
e_vaholic
ummmnot allowed to enter the class..or even the school if late..
i'll think again!
JenX
U forget about tarik telinga (ear twisting) laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
swingdoctor
Our teacher used to pull our pants down for the rottan, I remember, my friends was big and white.
strawberryofdoom
Didn't know there was punishment like that in school over there. Interesting to know. Over here it's detention/ suspension.
samheisfl
Tarik Sideburn... sakit duh!!
nenaenamorada
QUOTE(strawberryofdoom @ May 18 2006, 09:06 PM) [snapback]1863731[/snapback]

Didn't know there was punishment like that in school over there. Interesting to know. Over here it's detention/ suspension.


yep here its the same... u get suspended ... number of days depends on what u've done...
swingdoctor
I've been to school both in Aust and Malaysia,
In Aust the student have much more freedom and the teachers by and large are not allowed to punish the students, as a result the students sometimes get away with atrocious behaviour that would never be tolerated in Malaysian schools.
In Malaysia though, in my school anyway, there were teachers who had a power complex, and abused thier authority over the students. Looking back, it is obvious they were teachers who grossly abused their powers. They used to punish students simply because they didn't like them.
strawberryofdoom
My mother say it's stict in malaysia, so is it? I'm planning to visit my uncle there someday.
ham_let
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4.Duck walk(jalan itik)-

^__^ same word in tagalog.
forrestcat
QUOTE(strawberryofdoom @ May 20 2006, 07:32 AM) [snapback]1865960[/snapback]

My mother say it's stict in malaysia, so is it? I'm planning to visit my uncle there someday.


Teachers here maybe more conservative and strict, but from my obdervation and experience, this also create a close bond between students and teachers.

The discipline teacher at my former school eas very fierce like a tiger, everyone flinched when she screams and lecture us loudly during assemblies and she's slapped some boys openly and even had trouble with parents because of her stricy rule and we did not like that too. But during the graduation ceremony, she sincerely apologized and said she was strict because she loved us ...everyone including the boys(and me) cried after hearing her moving speech........the discipline teacher even hugged one of the most notorious student in my school, it was so moving and everyone cried more. Eventhough she was very strict..i will always remembered her as a responsible and a caring teacher......not as a torturer.

Her punishments have virtues lessons..like the boys who are caught smoking in the toilets she told to put their hands into the toilet bowl to retrieve the cigerette packets...she wanted them to feel how the cleaners are having hard a hard time doing the same thing because of their foolish acts.
JenX
Nowadays,if the students get corporal punishment sure it create sparks and dispute from parents. Teahers got blamed. Unlike the past, so strict......so teachers are victims as well. Talktohand.gif
yana19384
^^children shouldnt be given any punisment by teachers at all unless if they dont behave themselves at all...
forrestcat
I was a good boy at school, never received punishment before icon_smile.gif ...but there were assholes in my school who deserved punishements....so I believe students do need to receive punishments in Malaysia...to show them that they can't do whatever they want.

Anyway, punishment at school has been apart of our culture, so we should preserve punishments at school. Maybe we could eliminate harsh punishments that could cause serious physical harm, but we should preserve the;

ketuk ketampi
lompat katak
Misao
Psyco
Ketapi
Helikopter
Gotong Royong
Marathon
ulat bulu

These punishments are good as physical exercises too biggthumpup.gif laugh.gif and the punishment

jemur panas (stand under the sun)

is good for ur skin during the morning... biggrin.gif
swingdoctor
Students like all children will need boundaries and like all children they will from time to time push those boundries. There should be someone to decipline them but I do feel that corporal punishment should be banned and teachers should also be made accountable. IMHO.
pancaindera
^ im not sure actuallly if m'sia still allow corporal punishment. they havent banned it right?
whats so bad about corporal punishment, other than the possibility of abuse by teachers?
what is a good alternative punishment then, instead of corporal ones?

i think some parents hate the idea of their kids getting punished by some teacher they dont even know. while some perhaps love the idea, as maybe they just have no guts to do the disciplining themselves embarassedlaugh.gif
yana19384
^^the part saying the parents dont know the teachers teaching the student thing...well..thats the parents fault...they should build a good relationship with the teachers so that they have some agreement regarding on how they have to focus on the children's learning process at schoo...i still think the punishment thing is not a very good idea...

i hate the punishment so much cos i still remember when i was in standard 5 i was punished in school because my friends behind me were talking all the time when the teacher was teaching...but when i tried to shut them off the teacher ended up scolding and punishing me in front of the class icon_sad.gif ....but i didnt tell the teacher what really happened because those idiots behind me was talking about a wet dream embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
nadnad
My friends and I were caught doing vandalisme in school. Eheh. So the dicipline teacher asked us to paint the wall as a punishment, but we must get our own painting stuff. So we had to buy everthing using our own money. When our parents asked us, we just answer them we volunteered to paint the school wall. laugh.gif I know the punishment doesnt sound nasty or anything. But it was fun.
yana19384
^^that kind of punishment is better...it makes u learn better from your mistakes and it makes the school more beautiful icon_wink.gif that is if the students do a good job..hehehe embarassedlaugh.gif
nadnad
Yeah.. we did a great job. We stopped doing vandalisme after that. Learned our lesson already.. laugh.gif . But now, the wall that we painted is no longer vandalisme-free. Haih.. after all of the hardwork. Well, we realise even more now, that vandalisme is not good.
pancaindera
QUOTE(nadnad @ May 21 2006, 02:32 AM) [snapback]1869531[/snapback]

Yeah.. we did a great job. We stopped doing vandalisme after that. Learned our lesson already.. laugh.gif . But now, the wall that we painted is no longer vandalisme-free. Haih.. after all of the hardwork. Well, we realise even more now, that vandalisme is not good.


lol. nice to hear people learning their lesson that way. i didnt think that ppl can learn their lessons with such 'light' punishment embarassedlaugh.gif

QUOTE(yana19384 @ May 20 2006, 11:53 PM) [snapback]1869132[/snapback]

^^the part saying the parents dont know the teachers teaching the student thing...well..thats the parents fault...they should build a good relationship with the teachers so that they have some agreement regarding on how they have to focus on the children's learning process at schoo...i still think the punishment thing is not a very good idea...

i hate the punishment so much cos i still remember when i was in standard 5 i was punished in school because my friends behind me were talking all the time when the teacher was teaching...but when i tried to shut them off the teacher ended up scolding and punishing me in front of the class icon_sad.gif ....but i didnt tell the teacher what really happened because those idiots behind me was talking about a wet dream embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif



ya. i guess its the parents fault ..

what a sad story icon_sad.gif
if i got accussed for something i didnt do, oh man, i think i'll be real pissed off.
or i'll just sob ceaselessly bawling.gif
yana19384
i hate that teacher ever since the incidence...and i never will forgive her for accusing me and making me so embarrased in front of the whole class icon_redface.gif
swingdoctor
QUOTE(pancaindera @ May 20 2006, 11:49 AM) [snapback]1868253[/snapback]

^ im not sure actuallly if m'sia still allow corporal punishment. they havent banned it right?
whats so bad about corporal punishment, other than the possibility of abuse by teachers?
what is a good alternative punishment then, instead of corporal ones?

i think some parents hate the idea of their kids getting punished by some teacher they dont even know. while some perhaps love the idea, as maybe they just have no guts to do the disciplining themselves embarassedlaugh.gif

Corporal punishment is like the death penalty as in its a moral issue, I personally don't believe that physical punishment should be allowed at schools. There are also some people who don't believe that physical punishment should be allowed at home. Me, I feel when you punish a child you need to know why you are doing it, and it shouldn't be just because you're angry.

There are other ways to punish a child ie freedom deprivation. Keep them in at recess, deny them PE, pick up rubbish in the school. Teachers should be allowed to declipline a child it just has to be done appropriately. Teachers also need to realise that they are in a position of power and the student doesn't really have a voice to speak out
rx7boy
QUOTE(forrestcat @ May 20 2006, 04:08 PM) [snapback]1867921[/snapback]

I was a good boy at school, never received punishment before icon_smile.gif ...but there were assholes in my school who deserved punishements....so I believe students do need to receive punishments in Malaysia...to show them that they can't do whatever they want.

Anyway, punishment at school has been apart of our culture, so we should preserve punishments at school. Maybe we could eliminate harsh punishments that could cause serious physical harm, but we should preserve the;

ketuk ketampi
lompat katak
Misao
Psyco
Ketapi
Helikopter
Gotong Royong
Marathon
ulat bulu

These punishments are good as physical exercises too biggthumpup.gif laugh.gif and the punishment

jemur panas (stand under the sun)

is good for ur skin during the morning... biggrin.gif


those two ..waaa .. if you overdo it, can cause alot of pain and brain damage. only God knows the pain. KEJAM!! bawling.gif
pancaindera
QUOTE(swingdoctor @ May 21 2006, 12:37 PM) [snapback]1870914[/snapback]

Corporal punishment is like the death penalty as in its a moral issue, I personally don't believe that physical punishment should be allowed at schools. There are also some people who don't believe that physical punishment should be allowed at home. Me, I feel when you punish a child you need to know why you are doing it, and it shouldn't be just because you're angry.

There are other ways to punish a child ie freedom deprivation. Keep them in at recess, deny them PE, pick up rubbish in the school. Teachers should be allowed to declipline a child it just has to be done appropriately. Teachers also need to realise that they are in a position of power and the student doesn't really have a voice to speak out


yah. maybe la..
yana19384
but i dont think we should pnish them in a way that can depress them...cos its bad...let them enjoy recess and PE because we dont want any obese children..thats a bad start for their life...and keeping them in wont make them think any better..they'll learn to curse instead...but i think the picking up rubbish,cleaning the class or doing some useful activities are alright...
samheisfl
I think during my high school years, i get a lot of punishment from seniors.. the teachers in my school hardly punish the students but every day, my seniors punished me.. icon_redface.gif
yana19384
^^i think thats called bullying or ragging...hahahaha embarassedlaugh.gif
forrestcat
My roomates also told their horror stories about ragging during their first weeks at boarding school.

They have to wash senior clothes, take water from them, wash the toilets and even do some silly stunts.

My roomate was punched just because he forgot to reply the salam of one of the seniors.

My roomates say most of the seniors did participate in the ragging, only the few arseholes. But those senior are punished if reported to the teacher, but they'll retaliate and give u double the agony.
yana19384
in manipal,there were a lot of ragging cases every time the new batch commences...every 6 months a student die...and i mean it..they DIE

one of the most favourite ragging they are so accustomed to is to jump on the stepping stones near the beach ...the water doesnt look so deep but in fact the water is damn deep and there are stones inside the water

so stupidly these juniors follow them to the beach and did whatever was told and they jump off and die

happens every 6 months...the seniors and whoeveer were involved were sacked but the culture lives on...dont ask me why sure.gif
samheisfl
donno la.. i think washing the seniors cloth, do their jobs, wash toilets.. its all just a light ragging.. i will feel very grateful if i was assinged with these work because there are more "heavy" there..
swingdoctor
Ragging weather light or heavy can be argued as a type of bullying so you could ask is ragging necessary and what does it achieve. IMO I feel that its wrong and should not be allowed. As Yana has described people, even in Malaysia, have died because of it.
yana19384
ragging is stupid..i think its lame...
forrestcat
^agree..thank god i did not went through ragging...
yana19384
i was ragged before when i was in standard 1...i didnt even know it was a ragging until my parents were so concerned of me being so reluctant to go to school....i never told them what was wrong going on in the school...bt finally they found out i was being ragged...and i was like...oh...ye ke? embarassedlaugh.gif
pancaindera
do u guys think if ppl who experienced ragging would end up being a tougher person, than if they hadnt been ragged ? icon_confused.gif
malaccan
My ustazah made me ketuk-ketampi 100 times for not memorising ayat hafalan al-Quran, then she twisted my nipple.
Pervert. Talktohand.gif
swingdoctor
QUOTE(malaccan @ May 22 2006, 03:36 PM) [snapback]1875273[/snapback]

My ustazah made me ketuk-ketampi 100 times for not memorising ayat hafalan al-Quran, then she twisted my nipple.
Pervert. Talktohand.gif

Twisted your nipple? Boy, that would have hurt.
yana19384
ahahaha...i can only imagine embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
Protoculture
QUOTE(malaccan @ May 22 2006, 03:36 PM) [snapback]1875273[/snapback]

My ustazah made me ketuk-ketampi 100 times for not memorising ayat hafalan al-Quran, then she twisted my nipple.
Pervert. Talktohand.gif


Nice .... mine whacked me on my head.

Actually, I personall prefer caning ... in broad daylight & during assemblies. A nice long rattan rod ... wham! ... gotta be a good boy from there on.

I kinda remember Cikgu Amir, a discipline teacher of mine that always bring the rattan rod with him. He will personally deliver a quick caning either on the buttocks or on our hands for any disciplinary lapses imaginable.

I got a few lashes meself for not handing in school assignments, 'mengorat' the girls, all the smaller bad stuffs.

But I'll still remember him fondly .... thanks, Cikgu!
yana19384
^^no way not me...i dont even want to see someone get caned icon_sad.gif
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