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tangawizi
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Mr. Hu, the stakeholder? Beijing can wait
Morton Abramowitz International Herald Tribune
TUESDAY, MAY 16, 2006

NEW YORK In recent years, the term stakeholder has been added to foreign-policy parlance. Like the miner of yore or a company stockholder, countries now also can be stakeholders on specific policy matters in a variety of international institutions.

Impressively, the United States has now put before China a new public offering to buy a piece of the whole international system. It is apparently the brainchild of Deputy Secretary of State Robert Zoellick, who, using his Treasury expertise, began the initial deliberations with China in 2005.

China does not have to put up any money, for the moment, although its continuing lending to the United States shows that it merits the opportunity to buy a stake in the system.

While conditions for the buy-in have been stated in terms of pursuing shared interests, China's only real requirements are to recognize the United States as general partner and take a minority share. But China can attend all meetings of the partnership with the big guys (it has a separate stake, of course, in the United Nations).

Beijing-watchers have proclaimed this a monumental advance in Chinese-American relations. They particularly liked Zoellick's salutary warning to China that to become a responsible stakeholder it would also have to change its ways.

Having only recently joined the market-oriented world, Chinese leaders were not used to the notion of stakeholder and had trouble even translating the term into Chinese. Dissecting the prospectus, they were surprised at the extraordinary compensation that Americans provided to leaders of failed companies, which is certainly not the case in China.

They were also a little amazed that the managing partner continued to occupy that key position given the enterprise's massive failure and continuing hemorrhaging from its Iraq stock offering. The Americans explained that since they went around the world doing good, an occasional failing enterprise, however regrettable, was not an unreasonable cost.

Given their sensitivity to American feelings, China's leaders took all the American conditions in stride. They became a little agitated, however, when Zoellick told them that if they wanted to be responsible stakeholders they also had better stop fiddling around with guys like Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe, Than Shwe of Myanmar and Islam Karimov of Uzbekistan, and they had better start throttling Kim Jong Il's nuclear games in North Korea. They also had to treat their people better and hold more elections.

Beijing's research apparatus was quick to note that many fervent Bush administration underwriters were insisting that China even give up Taiwan before it could become a stakeholder. Beijing found that a little excessive. It was a little more concerned with American annoyance at Chinese purchases of oil concessions and exploration rights aound the world, but at least Washington did not tell them that membership required reducing oil consumption.

Returning home a few days ago, President Hu Jintao immediately discussed this offer with the politburo. They decided that this international stakeholding wasn't all it was cracked up to be. They need oil, and they don't mind doing business with whoever wants to do business.

Hu instructed his associates to listen quietly to all the American complaints about their bad domestic habits and simply go about their business. China would wait to buy a stake another day, hold on to its American bonds to keep Washington happy, and even continue to provide Wal-Mart with cheap goods.

Maybe later, when the U.S. trade deficit has grown, the Americans will sell them a minority share at cheaper prices. "You know," he said, "I bet they they might even make us a general partner."

Morton Abramowitz, a senior fellow at the Century Foundation, is a former U.S. assistant secretary of state.



I wonder what are the Americans playing at??
mobi3232
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Given their sensitivity to American feelings, China's leaders took all the American conditions in stride. They became a little agitated, however, when Zoellick told them that if they wanted to be responsible stakeholders they also had better stop fiddling around with guys like Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe, Than Shwe of Myanmar and Islam Karimov of Uzbekistan, and they had better start throttling Kim Jong Il's nuclear games in North Korea. They also had to treat their people better and hold more elections.


^Typical strawman argument.

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Returning home a few days ago, President Hu Jintao immediately discussed this offer with the politburo. They decided that this international stakeholding wasn't all it was cracked up to be. They need oil, and they don't mind doing business with whoever wants to do business.


Do not interfere with Taiwan, solve China's oil problems. Let China become fully industrialized and developed. Then there can be talk about holding elections.
bayard
What they are trying to sell is "International Partnership" or telling CHINA to become a responsible partner in international affairs. It's a metaphor/comparison or the typical anti-CCP crap saying China should do what is acceptable to the western government/US. Meaning don't trade with Sudan, zimbabewe, etc and don't do things US/Western countries don't like doing. It's a somewhat analog to buying into a partnership because China's all about money at this time, but just a hidden message in some way.
ktchong
^ Seriously, whoever China wants to do business with is NONE OF ANYONE ELSE's BUSINESS, including the US.

Aznomad
and they call us commies
toronto_chinese
they are selling Opium just like what the british sold us. haha
ktchong
QUOTE(ktchong @ May 17 2006, 01:01 PM) [snapback]1858676[/snapback]

^ Seriously, whoever China wants to do business with is NONE OF ANYONE ELSE's BUSINESS, including the US.

Here's an obeservation:

White people are fundamentally obsessed with POWER and CONTROL. It's built into their cultures or probably even genes. They are always trying to tell and control what other people can and cannot do. They even want to tell and control other people what to believe. That is why they are so obsessed with idealogies and want to convert other people to Christianity, democracy, whatever. For White people, it's all about controlling other people -- other people's actions and beliefs.
michinobu_zoned
QUOTE(ktchong @ May 20 2006, 10:03 PM) [snapback]1869611[/snapback]

Here's an obeservation:

White people are fundamentally obsessed with POWER and CONTROL. It's built into their cultures or probably even genes. They are always trying to tell and control what other people can and cannot do. They even want to tell and control other people what to believe. That is why they are so obsessed with idealogies and want to convert other people to Christianity, democracy, whatever. For White people, it's all about controlling other people -- other people's actions and beliefs.

Democracy, the same with wanting to give food and aid to other countries, it's a good thing to have. Christianity, that's because they believe that if you don't accept Christ, Hell is surely in your future, so the idea's the same.
I doubt you live in China, and probably live in a Western country, a suppossed nation full of white people. One thing that these nations, in addition to Japan, is that they give food and aid to less than fortunate people. The same applies to democracy and religion. It's about compassion. At least Chrisitian organizations donate more money than any other religion. They even donate money to help Russian Jews move to Isreal, something that it seems you can't get a great deal of Jewish people to donate money for.
But then, there's a chance that bringing Jews back to their homeland is way of hurrying up the second coming of Christ.
joe111
QUOTE(ktchong @ May 17 2006, 03:01 PM) [snapback]1858676[/snapback]

^ Seriously, whoever China wants to do business with is NONE OF ANYONE ELSE's BUSINESS, including the US.

It is EVERYONE's business if china is supporting serial killers in africa who is massacring millions of people.
This is not acceptable. china will continue to get a bad rap, if china continues to support dictators in africa.
Let's boycott all made in china products.!!!!
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