Discuss about firearms/ammunition.

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Contains a list of many different firearms and ammunition stats: http://world.guns.ru/main-e.htm

Extremely Low Recoil Shotgun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s13Y7SKrFls...;search=shotgun

Confirmed 12 guage. Skeet shooting, duh.

Glock 18, PA shotgun and Dragnov.

I want a cute little one. Any suggestions?

I remember Sephy listed a good one that was compact and had low recoil. Low stopping power though.

recoil? low stopping power? I dunno the lingo.
Ask sephy to post a pic please.

Here's the link:
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg21-e.htm





It's Russian though, so it might be hard to find.


Basically, a gun is a minature cannon. Each bullet casing has a small bit of gunpowder in the back and the bullet in the front. When you pull the trigger, a hammer smashes into the back of the bullet casing, igniting and detonating the gunpowder which fires the bullet.

The larger the bullet, the more power goes into firing it. That means the bigger the explosion and the more recoil, or force that's released into your hand.

For home defense, you'll most likely not be fighting someone with body armor, so all you really need is a low power gun with just enough power to have the bullet enter the guy. The gun I posted is compant and small so it can be easily carried. The firepower is very low, just enough to hurt a guy but not enough to stop him if he's wearing armor.

Use this gun as an example. Just look for a low powered compact gun.

I'd prefer the mini gun actually. It'll slice open my enemies like mince meat.

Impossiblé for a human to carry around and use.

That's what slaves are for.

Looks cute and sounds great.
Thanks. If I ever decide to get a gun, I'll keep this in mind.
wait... dont you have to be sane to get a license for a gun


jk

Gun laws in the US are terrible.

There needs to be a test to see if you should be able to buy a gun. And once you pass that test, you should be able to buy any gun you want.

Psychology test? A lot of people can pass those types of test easily by lying.

I meant a test like:

1) How Dangerous is a Firearm?

2) Should you shoot at hooligans drinking in your property?

etc.

I agree, and I own guns. The biggest problem with US gun laws isn't that we don't have enough. Its that we don't enforce them enough.

It prevents non-retarded people from owning more awesome guns also.

Tinman, what's your collection if you don't mind revealing?

Colt gold cup .45 acp. Man stopper and a pleasure to shoot.
HK 91 in .308 cal. hmmmmm I can't say more .
Winchester mod 70 accurized 30.06 cal. hmmmmmm accurate out to 500 meters.
Remington mod 1100 12 guage semi auto. hmmmmm tweety killer and minimal felt recoil.
S&W mod 645 45 acp. first pistola I ever bought. It stays home most the time.
Ithica mod 37 12 guage pump first shot gun I ever bought. Light and fun to shoot
22 cal rifle( savage) bought for teaching my son how to shoot.
And please add me to the clan.

The .45 acp is mainly for compact pistols right? I'm looking at this ballistics chart:http://world.guns.ru/ammo/am02-e.htm
and it places the .45 ACP has having low kinetic energy, so I'm guessing low stopping power.
Penny for your thoughts.

Oh, and do you think the gauge of rounds used in this extrema video can be 12 guage?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s13Y7SKrFls&search=shotgun

WOW the opposite. 45acp should be almost double the 9mm. Its not like a 44 mag. But it goes in about .5 inches exits about 4 inches. Its lethal. I think 12 guage number 7 or 8 shot. for skeet or trap.

Where would you rank it between

.357-10mm-.44?

As for pistol size frame? There are compact 45 acp's I dont like them. I like a manly gun with a little weight. It helps with accuracy, felt recoil and a bigger gun looks meaner hahahaha.

Power actually.

Go for the S & W .500.

Diameter just slightly larger than .44 less powder so less spd and energy. Its a sub sonic round I believe. I shoot full metal jackets I have to see the bullet weight. I just bought a new box of military rounds. I dont care for the magnums. Loud and abusive to shoot . I was injured in the service and so I try not to punish old wounds.


whoa a cannon. IMI Deasert Eagle semi auto avail. in 44 mag
45 grizzly mag
Both huge guns

Something about having the most powerful handun ever made puts a bit of a spark in things.

Do you go hunting often or are your arms for self-defense?

I hunt Deer with my brother. I dont have the blood lust any more. I just go for the time we spend together. I hunt wood chucks because I hate those giant rats. I target shoot. Pistol is for target shooting and defence

tinman01, do share how to own a gun, i lives in Socal, i know they have tough gun laws in this part state and i know you need ccw to carry one, mind giving me a crash course with what i must know?

I have:

Glock .45 13+1
Armscor .45 8+1
2 x Imperial Defence 1911 ranger .45 7+1
M16

Sadly locked away in storage at home in the Philippines, which i carried around for a little over 4 months whilst i was on holiday over there. Of all the firearm in my collectiion the biggest animal in all of them is the Glock, for a handgun you really do feel the recoil (that english term?) on this gun (especially if your using double action ammos and it is a very mean looking gun. My favourite shooting gun has got to be the Armscor, it feels nice and shoots nice and easy ( i never leave home without it)

I have used and shot an M14 rifle and this is one lethal mofo firearm i swear. Theres probably something more lethal but this is how good it got for me. Range shooting is cool too.

I have nothing but utter respect for these killing instruments, whilst walking with it in the street youd be forgiven thinking your holding someones life there.

I have no idea. I'll vote for which ever is the most powerful/destructive one.

WOW you have some serious .45 's Both the glock and armscor are fine weapons. I like the 1911 modles but that is because I am also biased. I learned on the colt gov mod 1911. Yhere is a lot of heated discussion about double action v.s single. I also have a S&W mod 645 in 45 acp. It was the first pistola I ever bought. It shoots 5 inch groups at 25 meters and so stays home most of the time. Hahahaha
How to own in the USA isn't an easy answer every state has its own restrictions. The generic answer is :
1. Fill out the paper work any gunshop can provide you.
2. Pass the back ground check if applying for a consealed permit
3. It would really help you if you joined a local shooting range or club.
4. Find a gun shop you both like and are confortable with.( its weird but most shooters become loyal to a shop)

I heard when you apply for a licence to carry, you'll have to specific about why you feel the needs to be carrying one? like if i said theres a threat to me life, will i need to produce evidence that this is the case? All i want to do really is carry it, for life threatning situations, i just want to be ready!

1. Heavy Revolver .500 S & W
2. Gas Semi-Auto Shotgun Spas 12
3. Anti-Material Rifle

Correct. Depending on who is processing your paper work will depend how hard core they are. You can actually carry a weapon in the open. Its when you have a shoulder rig under your jacket. But then again hahaha walking around with a hand cannon might result in an arrest.seriously every state has laws specific to them. In Pa its ok to transport a pistol with out having a consealed weaps permit if your going to or from a shooting range or gun shop. Pistol must be in the open in clear view.
I myself dont have the consealed permit. I could if I wanted but quite honestly I dont carry a gun for any other reason than the shooting range .

Man, that means i get me aquainted to another milkybar kid, whose gonna be all suspicious and read me for all the wrong reasons, i would hate to be put behind bars for brawling with a cop Maybe i should walk in there wearing a suit, looking like a business man rather than looking mundanely Filipino heh

Hmm, same as me. What does that mean?

It means you guys like practicality.

A full auto pistol, a reliable/flexible pump shotgun, and a marksman's rifle, because you guys are not as l33t as me.

What do you like then? style?

Power/Authority.

^ Though that's not necessarily the most practical.

You mean your accuracy is pants so you go for power. :P

^ Jah whatever.

Has anyone verified the ammo gauge in the Xtemea video?

You should walk in wear a pimp suit. Say look man I needs the permit man. I needs to protect my investments hahahahahaha
They will say
Name?
Address?
how much?
Errrr we need to investigate your investments first. Now these guys will be hefty, pastey faced sweaty guys going bald.
They will also require a donation of not less than 30 doughnuts.


12 Gauge # 7 or 8 shot... Most common used for shooting trap or skeet.

Suijen
Check out the barret M99-1 50 cal. This is a seriously bad @$$ gun. This puppy will reach out and touch someone.

hold on I found another really cool gun
Chey Tac Intervention M310.in 408 cal. its a nastey dog.

Now for hand cannons....
IMI deasert eagle in 50 mag. whoa now this one will leave a mark on what ever it hits hahaha
Wildey Pistol what a bullet selection. everything from 44 auto mag to the wildey 475 mag

The revolver sounds cool.
Hm...what's the name of the gun that I am suppose to be using for the VE again Suijen?


*shakes head*

What is becoming of you suijen?

He is turning into Mad Max.

Ever since he read the Gunslinger series by Stephen King he wants a gun, in fact many guns.

Tinman, so that guy's firing 12 gauge rounds at that rate with that much control? That must be one awesome shotgun. I'm using that for the VE then.

Also, that's anti-material right? Don't need that much firepower. It'll really ruin someone's day though.



The Deagle can use Action Express, yup.



The FN SCAR, it's an assault rifle. It can be modified to use 5.56x45 anti-personal rounds for low armors, or 7.62x39 to 7.62x51 for armored guys.



What?


Anyways, I plan on using a Glock 18 and that Xtemea 2 shotgun. That shotgun controls recoil like a dream. Very practical for room clearing.

was that its real rate of fire? I thought it was like fast motion or something. For room cleaning you need a short stock, short barrel 12 guage 00 buck shot. On your hip you will want at leat a 45 acp. target stays down .... 9mm targets are hurt but have a nastey habit of being pissed off too. For the long range shooting the barret I showed you. used in conjunction with night vision you can shoot through walls and kill anything in the house without risk.

It seems real video to me. It's a competitive gun so I guess that can be expected.

I'll have Sephy take up the Anti-Material Rifle. He reckoned to be a marksman and take up a semi-automatic marksman rifle though.

Would you prefer .45ACP over 10 mm?

I offer my services for training snipers, training for hand gun and any interegations you need. I will make an offer they can't refuse. Tell me everything or forced labor on my bullmilking farm. No Gloves allowed.... It irritates the bull.

It's a dirty job but someone's gotta do it.

yes rich women demand facial cream.

Say, would you say 7.62x39 and NATO 7.62x51 are outdated for AR and that 5.56x45 is enough? And what have you heard on the 6.8 SPC?