I've heard that Koreans are Mongolians in some way...i have no idea about this..is this true?

Koreans were most likely a Mongol tribe in origin LONG ago before they settled down in the peninsula. Essentially, the Koreans are what a Mongol tribe would have been if they had chosen to settle down somewhere and live a sedentary lifestyle.

omg thats sooo old, then mongolian are what an african tribe would have been if they had chosen to settle down in central asia.

Mind ur fu-king mouth u Darkblade. U r then what a monkey would have if he had chosen to learnt typing ...

Not true ...
Koreans are more like chinese. Just look at them.
But i think it might be there are some affinity. Who knows

i still think koreans and chinese look different in a lot of ways.

bittermelon: i think maybe you misunderstood darkblade's comment as sarcasm. but no personal attacks.

Not true. Koreans are more like Japanese. Koreans and Japanese tend to be similiar in appearance, wide faces, single edged eyelids. Most Chinese dont look like that.

I don't know how typical korean or japanese look. But i do know Mongolians of different countries from Mongolia, Russia and China.

Chinese ( han) are so diverse, i wanna avoid to generalize them.

South Mongolian wrestler from PRC


Mongolian boys from Mongolia


Musician in Train Station in Ulaanbaatar , Mongolia


Old man from Mongolia


Buriad Mongol from Russia

Buriad Mongol-well known sniper of WWII


Kalmyk Mongol from Russia






NO CELEBS

settle down with the fact that KOREANS ARE KOREANS and give it a rest.

I'll add my nickle before it becomes another full-fledged thread about the sensitive "race".

There should be something at least slightly common. I've read studies theorizing about how they could have split some 4 thousand years ago or so. That's prolly what the topic starter is referring to.

I guess Koreans would have to look different from Chinese, they're called Koreans after all. The ones I've met do look Korean rather than Chinese.

that wrestler is pretty handsome. and that last pic. that guy on the bottom right corner, lol. looks like someone drew him on a hitler mustache.

Well, to me basically mongolians and koreans look alike. At least outer mongolians. Japanese and chinese are so different. How do i know. Coz' I was born and lived many years in Ulaanbaatar-capital of Mongolia. And i am sure there are much more to talk about it

with seeing a lot of pictures of mongolians and meeting a good amount. i haven't found one yet that i thought looked really korean or anything. i think mongolians have a unique look

What is real Korean look? non-celebs please

Mongolians mixed little bit with Tibetans and Koreans mixed little bit with Han Chinese. That is why they can spot out each other's differences.

Mongolians mixing with Buddhist celibat Tibetan Monks? Hardly, maybe very little drop

But Deed Mongols (Mongols living around Qinghai lake) have heavy Tibetan influence. But they speak very good Mongolian language






Some Mongols of Qinghai (Khoh Nuur) in Ulaanbaatar

Mongolians have up to 14.3% Western Eurasian blood.....in Xinjiang China anyway.

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/21/12/2265

Eastern Mongolia and western Manchuria was once a cultural epicenter in the ancient past, from which Korean civilization originated from.

actually, no. we've already seen what nomadic culture would be like if they chose to settle down. The Khitan were not fully nomadic nor were the Jurchen. you can also look at all the central asian city states like Bactria, Samarkand and the like who were formally nomadic people who chose to settle down

Among Turks Uygurs (also uzbek belongs to them too) are the first mentioned Turkic people who settled down and never got nomadic again. Many other Turkic people where forced(!) to settle down, but after a few time they moved on again, today there are still such people wich we call "yörük", means nomad. My mom-side is nomad, my father-side is from the Turkic people who came from the caucasus into Turkey (long time ago), they where nomadic first but later they settled down.

Some koreans have blue spot. But I don't know how many percent of them.

yeah, they're are numerous examples of what nomadic people are like when they settle down. i'm really sick of NEW korean identity politics. they spent so much of their history being as Chinese as possible, now its hip to be nomad.

i'm mostly Manchu and i get alot of these korean eccentrics who claim to be one and the same as my "brother". of course, i give them the boot



east africans also have the spot, one day 50 years from now when its hip to be Ethiopian. Korean nationalists will claim ethiopians are koreans who forgot their sunblock

in LA koreatown, i see more and more mongols, some of whom speak korean. they certainly do not hang out in chinatown.

and to foomanchu skin, those "koreans" who likened to be your brother are retarded. no way would my ppl admit kinship with chinese.

He is just making it up after a dose of some crack. Lol, Koreans wanting to be Chinese? Read my lips you fake Manchurian buddy,"Koreans don't hate Chinese but look down on them."
Be happy now!

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=64712


out of all asian, mongolians look very similiar to koreans...more then chinese or japanese. im sure many would agree too. surprise me really after looking at those pictures cause in real life ive never meet a mongolian, so i cant compare them to a modern image. kinda cool if you ask me. ive learn something new today and also that blue marking, never knew about it. good stuff!

Regarding the Tibetan. I only heard from a Tibetan classmate that Tibetans travelled to Mongolia in past as visitors and religious preachers and they left secretly left many babies with Mongolian girls. That's what he said. I don't know how true that it is.

Koreans may have started out pure Siberians. But, with all the wars and interactions going on with Han Chinese for many thousands of years, you can see that they look a little bit different from Mongols, Siberians and Eskimos. They are not pure Altai no more.

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...dpost&p=1870182

That was previously posted by lostn. This is evidence that he doesn't have much understanding in history, archaeology and genetics. It's one of his so-called "reasonings" for his little "we're similar so let us be friends" schemes, so don't pay attention to his gibberish. He probably doesn't even know that paternal ancestors to Haplotype O have been found among Altaic peoples as well as the Qiangs.

I found one,

Mongolian boy vs Korean star

^^Very few among Altaics. Much more so among Han and southeast Asians. Very likely the ancestors of both Han and Southeast Asians probably lived in Siberia before being driven south by Altaics. That is why you still see 5-10% Hap. O remnants in Altaics. Korean and Japanese is a different case. Korean started out pure Siberian like Mongols. Later some Chinese king or prince from Shang Dynasty fled to Korea after losing the battles to Zhou kings. He brought iron technology and other weapons to Korea and that was also the first evidence of rice cultivation in Korea. And, I don't want to mention what was going on in the Han, Sui, Tang and Ming invasions. Korean geneticists (not nationalists) also agree they know their country has 'dual or multi origins.'

I really don't think genetics is an arguable case no matter what you think.

I found a picture of Mongolians in US. Probably in LA.

hhaha pic boy

You are right. I love picture, better than long rant.

Hey man- ter hujaatai margaj jaahan ooriigoo bayasgav uu. Haaya tsaadah lotsn chin ingej eldev yum bichij hugjoodog yum.

You really should stop talking out of your @$$. Haplotype C common among Siberians is in fact the native population that migrated by the coastal areas of Asia way before the arrival of Haplotype O. I did say the paternal ancestor to Haplotype O - M214 without the M175 mutation - was found among the Altaic peoples, but not among Han Chinese. If population A has a small distribution of Haplotype X and has a paternal ancestor to it, and population B has a large distribution of Haplotype X without a paternal ancestor, the usual interpretation is that there was a bottleneck effect when population B came from population A. And when Koreans speak of "dual origins", it's about indigenous people(archaeology) or Southeast Asians(genetics), not Han Chinese.

And Shang Dynasty was a bronze age civilization, not iron age. This is one huge example of how you're just talking out of your @$$. This "Kija" theory is rejected by the mainstream historians, Koreans and Westerners alike, because it's contradicted by archaeological evidence. And rice cultivation in Korea began centuries before the advent of iron age in Korea. So really, you're just full $hit, talking out of your @$$. Next time, read a fu-king book, will ya?

xarin tiimee jooxon uidaad baisan yumaa gej

interesting evidence... but since haplotype O is associated with rice cultivation, which originated
in southeast Asia or southern China, doesn't it mean that O also originated in south???... and doesn't the presence of O in Japanese and Korean reflect Chinese migration???...

That was when it was assumed that haplotype O came from SEA. However, this interpretation has been upturned by recent studies. And haplotype O isn't "Chinese". It's common throughout Asia and the Asia Pacific. By the way, haplotype O(M175) is 35,000 years old.

Isn't it hilarious how so many Chinese nationalists are obsessed with this altaic fixation? I mean seriously they act like having altaic blood is some sort of privilege and being related to SE Asians make them inferior animals. As I've said before, I'd much rather be related to peaceful and civilized SE Asians whom as quoted by even a Chinese member on this forum "Were building maritime economies and beautiful temples like Angkor Wat while altaic nomads were busy blowing goats and horses." Seriously why would anyone even want to have any connection to being related to a bunch of illiterate horse barbarians who did more to halt civilization than progress it? The Mongols, Huns, Xiongnu don't exactly have a positive image in world history as they're known to everyone as nothing more than ruthless uncivilized barbarians. I guess it's all about saving face since China was overrun by these barbarian nomads so many times that they must claim them as their own in order to alleviate the shame and humiliation. Chinese people are not Northeast Altaic Asian, GET OVER IT! Just because they absorbed and assimilated many of these groups over the years does not mean they were originally Chinese.

Most ethnicities are descendants of rice farmers or goat herders whose wives were sexed with the ruler before they did with the husband and they show this pride as if their ancestors were the one conquering. Genetics show that in northeast asia one male lineage was supreme over the rest, most likely your original male ancestor was killed and they raped your original female ancestor.

You're Jewish. I will bet anything on it. Azekashimnazi Jew huh?

Why is it that Jewish males have smallest penis size out of anyone, and they make it illegal for Israeli women to have sex with Asian males?

for a moment there, I thought it was DetunedRadio rearing its ugly head again.

No, I just have this issue with everyone being so proud of their herritage while they live a backwards life holding to an illusion of a "great" past were their so called ancestors lived in tribes. But nobody is willing to advance and let go of the past. Move on, just like your ancestors did, they used metal tools not stones and bragged about their ancestry of living in caves, oh wait, they bragged about being descendants of holy dragon or universe creators. They were more delusional than people in the present. Im not ashamed to say I came from an amalgamation of matter.



You shouldnt have asked that because the answer is that they dont want jewish d!cks to become any more small than they already are.

^ actually jewish males have smaller d!cks than asians. there was a study done on this. and verified by many people. esp. asian girls in new york who date jewish males quite frequently.



wut are u talking about. in the past, asian civilization of sumeria gave the west everything they have about civilization. that was a tribal society.

so did china han chinese thru marco polo when europe was backwards... genghis khan even stopped sexual slavery in europe, where it was common practice...

so what ethnicity are u mixed of exactly? cus ur last comment in this thread was pretty disrespectful...

The truth is that only a few people created those things in the past, and were probably condenmed. But in the future those who were not even related to them but happen to belong in the same group should get all the glory? Most people were not part of this "glory", they were just fodder for the empires of the past. So Ghenghis Khan was a great man, he did big things, etc. but are you even related to him directly? And if you are somehow related, what is the history? Did he treat his women like whores or maybe the women he had children with were from another ethnicity he thought were less than animals. So dont glorify the ugly truth or make your ethnicity seem "great" because of one man and his armies accomplished, it sure wasnt the men who stayed home in Mongolia and survived.

Abraham was a Sumerian. He was the father of the Hebrews. Sumerians were Asian.

however, ashkemnazi jews are not related to Abraham by blood or legacy, they are a fake Hebrew tribe created 1000 years after Christ.

Chinese are too diverse to make any generalizations on their origin.

I think these "Chinese nationalists" are rather obsessed with claiming that other people came from "Chinese".

Asia is a huge continent and there are many types of Asian people. Some more related than others. And Abraham if he was one man would have been more related to Indians, Iraqis than Mongolians. Unless you go back thousands of years ago when Mongolians did not exist.

Ah. so tribal legacy does matter to u, when it deals with ur jewish tribe.

how interesting.

pwn3d. sucka.

Rather ironic coming from a Japanese isn't it? Aren't you part of that whole goat and horse blowing altaic nomadic barbarian group? If that's the case, go ahead and keep your barbarian ancestry LOL.....J/K. As I've said before even I admit that altaic fixations (Most Chinese I know don't really care) are rather lame.

Are you Jewish, which I doubt. If so than you should know that Ashkenazi and Sefardims, both do share common markers and lineages with Palestinians and Syrians, but no Iraqis or Indians. Ashkenazi mtDNA is of Western European origin but Y-DNA is Middle Eastern.



They are related via Y-DNA to Palestinians and Sefardic Jews, but not mtDNA. Is there any proof of existence of Abraham, isnn't it rather symbolical figure? what Sumers have to do with Abraham?

Listen weirdo. I didnt mention direct lineage, im talking about relatedness. You might be more related to Ghengis Khan than you are to Abraham Lincoln but you might not be a direct descendant of him. Most likely you arent.

If you really knew who your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather was it was probably someone living in a hut milking a yak, not some "proud" warrior.