if you think so, why or if not, why not? Dir En Grey performed here in L.A a couple of months ago (i went to the concert by the way...it was awesome!) do you think they could get big here in the U.S? if not them, maybe a more poppy star like...I don't know GO!GO! or shiina? personally, I think most Americans have their head so deep in their @$$, that they'd never give a real chance to any of these artist.

did you look around to see who went to the concert?

Not any of the current crop, no.

I think Dir en Grey might have a chance.

no

better learn engrish first

they invented engrish, why would they need to learn it.

Not really. See Utada Hikaru. :P

I seriously doubt it

well, the majority was white but its way to early to really say they'll actually make it. Like I said, I don't they will.

i dont think , in order to be appreciated and respected they need to stop being such wannabees first!

No, it's sad too, cos' I want J-artists more. XD

I went to the LA concert as well.
Dir En Grey is signed in the US but the only audience they'll probably find here are the nippophiles, anime geeks, or people who listen to j-rock.
Like Utada, they won't make it at all.
Even though they're selling Diru products at stores like Hot Topic, I doubt they have much of a future here.

Right now they don't have a very strong audience base so no, I don't think they can make it big here. It's gonna take time. Just think about other entertainment from Japan. Anime has only recently really become well known (as in they actually have showtimes during the day and not like at 1am only).

On a mass scale, no! Maybe to minority who's into being a self-asiaphile then, yes!

The type of people I saw at the LA concert were:

1. Fangirl types who only care for Diru and their cuteness/sexiness.. the ones who yell and jump up and down whenever their name is mentioned
2. The anime geeks who wore some of the most ridiculous clothing I've ever seen. There was this one dude who wore the Naruto gloves.
3. The fake gothic kids who think they're all dark and goth by shopping at hot topic.
4. The type of fans who can't stand that other people like Diru... especially the fangirl ones. It's like... they have this very arrogant/hypocritcal attitude.

Blah.
I might go to the Family Value Tour in San Bernadino.

i absolutely hate people like that.

and no, j-singers/bands will not make it here in the states. atleast the males wont succeed. most white girls dont like girly guys that sing.

Really? What about the 'emo' bands.

Not enough Asians living here to have any effect on the media.

I'm going to the family values tour too. Your right about the type of people there though. I didn't see the guy with the Naruto gloves...that must have been funny. I did see this middleaged guy- I think he was hispanic. He was there with his daughters, one was like 9 and the other was like 11- that was kind of interesting.



yeah, and a lof of the asians here are white-washed and only seem to be listening to the pop crap they have here.

I...doubt it....
It doesn't seem original enough to trump what's already here (not that what's here is good...only that j-rock/pop doesn't really seem to be better).

I think utada had the talent.

but it was obvious why she flopped with exodus. it's not about the fact that she was a jpop star and thus could not make it in the industry.

it's that exodus was a $hitty album and her english song lyrics just horrendous.

^Also, her voice has a tendency to whine at times. That's not good...

Hyde's starting his US debut next week I think.

The majority of America still won't accept an Asian singer. There's still too much wrong stereotyping about Asians in the US, eventhough I believe there are many talented ASian singers out there.

/\ yeah, Asians aren't really seen as rock stars. Below is the typical view of an Asian. hahaha...sad.

william hung

Exactly. Compared to all other races, Asians are relatively ignored. Why else would the main topic be "blacks and whites" when the issue of race is being discussed? We're all familiar with incidents such as the Rodney King one, but what about those where Asians have been victimised? IMO, the white audience, despite their prejudice, are willing to see non-Asians as individuals - not so for the Asians.

There's lots of barriers to cross for any Asian artist. The language is the most important - Americans, in general, aren't interested in non-Western culture - plus the type of music being marketed to American tastes as well.

If anything, I think a Korean artist has the best chance. As we all know, the large majority of Korean songs are basically U.S. style songs sung in Korean - it's very generic and closely related to American music, especially dance R&B. The Japanese are more creative and because of that, not many are used to their style of music. How often have we heard songs similar to Ayumi Hamasaki's "M" for example?

A lot of asians in America are white-washed so even if there were a large number, an asian artist more than likely still wouldn't make it.

Asian Stars would most likely flop.

asian stars will flop without a doubt. the stereotype is way too strong, america only sees asians as kung-fu fighting, karate chopping kick-assers in films. sad but true.

as for utada, she did fail with exodus, but there is really nothing special with the work that she's done in japan. it sounds very mainstream, even in the states and her voice is nothing to write home about. as someone mentioned before, it can be whiny sometimes when she can't hit a note, and so her range is quite limited and nothing unique about it. and in order to make it here, you need to have (near) perfect english. not saying that utada doesn't have perfect english, i've heard her speak, it's practically perfect. but in her album, it sounds slightly different, i guess this was due to her trying to hit some notes she couldn't and thus the results.

i've heard of dir en grey's successful performance in LA, but again, you have to consider the audience. tickets may have sold out, but you don't see the public at large flocking to see them. and those that did attend, well, as someone already mentioned.

i do agree that there is not enough originality in their works to launch themselves here. so to save face, i would rather their attempts to hit it in america to cease for the time being until something spectaculiar and extraordinary comes along, or until america can learn to view asians in a different light. it took a while for anime and manga to become a success, but even so, it still does not attract the mainstream public. say you're 24 and you tell your peers you're into anime, you will get a weird look like "really? and just how old are you?" seriously, i've seen this happen several times. and those that are into anime belong in a bracket labeled as asianphiles. it's really a one-sided thing because you don't see those who are into DC and Marvel comics get the same reactions, so this should give you an idea of how america really views asians. it's like everything in enteratinment that asians do is second rate (minus the kung-fu karate aspect).

I doubt these Jpop/rock stars would ever make it big in mainstream but I'm sure their fanbase in American is and will steadily increase what with all the skyrocketing popularity of anime and manga here with all the creepy emo/goth/otaku kids.

Americans like whatever music is shoved down their throats by mass media. If a major label decided to promote an Asian artist as the next big star, then I think their chances would be good. Who becomes popular here has more to do with who is hyped up as the new big thing than what they sound like.

I would think it would be highly unlikely for a Jpop star to make it in US

Maybe right now but I feel that as time goes on, they will be at least more accepted here than they are now. I feel that their popularity here can only grow, at least as more and more otakus are enevitable created in the U.S.

Actually there was one J-popstar that did make it to the US very briefly back in the 60's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyu_Sakamoto

Simple answer, no. I could see C-pop/rock having some fans, but as for Korean or Japanese, there isn't the population to support it.

Probably not a jrock pop star but maybe like an asian american. Someone who grew up here might make it as a rock star being in a band.....solo artist probably not.

I don't understand, you mean because there's more Chinese in America than Japanese? I'd think the growing number of otakus here would be very supportive to a Jpop singer. How about that Cartoon Network show HiHi Puffy Ami Yumi?

Actually there're more non asian into Japanese pop than Chinese.

2 words: X JAPAN

puffy ami yumi was short-lived, nobody cares about them anymore. and to reiterate myself, well, an asian star just won't cut it.

breakfastcrew, your theory is most plausible in which an asian-american might have a inkling of a chance here. and as you proposed, they might only make it in a band whereas going solo will be too slim.

rahul1000, i don't think their popularity will grow any further, it will just stalemate because people eventually grow out of it and newcomers will just replace them.

there's just not enough originality in their works because it's all been done before, just tweeked a bit to make it look/sound slightly different. rap, pop, rock, and country are all drastically different, which is why these genres can stand on their own. j-k-c-pop/rock all sound like derivatives of the pop/rock stuff here, so there is no originality. so the only option left is talent (with a slight quirk for them to stand out), and there needs to be an abundance of it (as in talent) in order for the american public to even consider or look twice. let's throw in looks too, because this world is a superficial world indeed.

Derivatives? Just how much Jrock have you heard? And what do you mean by looks? I find Jrockers vastly more attractive than their American counterparts, but their androgynous looks might not appeal to everyone. There's only like 3% Asians in the US though. Not enough of a market. There really isn't a point for Asian stars to make it in the US, anyway. It's impossible due to cultural differences. Vice versa, I can't see Angelina Jolie being a big star in Asia either. America is still very white and black and Asia is still very Asian. Oh well. Let's just wait for the day China takes over the world... xD

And everyone, stop capitalizing Dir en grey wrong.

rance


i've listened to plenty of j-rock, and i have plenty of japanese friends who introduce them to me and there are some that i favor, however, not many really stand out to me, because as i said, they sound like derivatives to me, just tweeked a bit, but that's just my opinion, everyone is entitled to their own. and about looks, that is exactly what i mean about the looks of some artists in japan, that they are androgynous and as you pointed out, might not appeal to the american public at large. and if you find j-rockers vastly more attractive, then that is your stand point. i too find many attractive j-artists, but in terms of accepting appearances, i would say chinese/hongkong stars cater more to the american public. exotic and distinct, but not too extreme. and yes, america is indeed very black and white, unfortunately.

Sure, why the hell not----Paris Hilton has a album out.

well.....you are not going to attract the mainstream crowd with all that visual kei make up.. maybe some goth kids. I like how dir en grey is taking off their make up now but....kyo stil needs to learn english and do less grunting or screaming on stage.

Who love Russian Rock?
That groups:
"Master", "Black Cofee", "Aria", "Black Obelisk", "Legion", "DDT", "Maverick", "Door", "Splinter" - IT'S COOL
And your opinion?

russians have very good Punkrock..

but other are no so bad. "Glukoza" is now a crasychiken in russia..

>>danoc
not PUNK!!!... (Russian) Heavy Metall - respect!

"puffy ami yumi" Hm... At us in the country they are known only owing to an animated cartoon! about their creativity of it it is not known!