i know the Ethnic chinese are doing extremely well in the philippines as well as in Indonesia and Malaysia and Singapore, even better than many native Ethnic Malay themselves.... is there signs that some philippine islands are being too overrun by ethnic chinese where they totally control everything? And isn't that a great threat to the Filipinos own homeland, would those chinese dare to think they own an island so they will want to secede and become their own country?

how are the Ethnic Filipino Malays getting along with Ethnic Filipino Chinese? do the Chinese even identity a nationalistic Filipino identity?

Yes,The Chinese here Assimilate Filipino culture

the ethnic chinese aren't so ethnic anymore. they've assimilated with the filipinos a long time ago. well, some families do hold their chinese tradition pretty well just like in the case of chinese families residing in centuries-old cities like Iloilo and Cebu.

Many Chinese had assimilated into the Philippine mainstream already, Our country had produced many mestizo Chinese- Filipino leaders like Emilio Aguinaldo y Fami, Corazon Cojuangco Aquino.

But There are about 100,000 Chinese mainlanders who comes to the country and settle each year . So they were the ones who may have not assimilated yet to the culture.

I hope that will never happen.

That is part of human culture it is the same as the Filipinos who migrate to other countries like US, Canada or Japan.

Yeah but we don't take an big part of that country and make it into our own country. Anybody who tries to do this should be deported.

Big part of country????????????

Im refering to an situation like singapore.

well Chinese constitute more than 70% of Singapore populatation.

the same way with Indians which constitutes more than 50% of some island countries like Trinidad and Tobago whil3e Filipinos are almost 1/3 of Guam's population!

That is why I believe there is no such thing as a pure race

come to think of it, i notice many koreans here in the visayas especially cebu nowadays. well, they're tourists but some are migrating to the philippines. it could be the next small but steady migration like the chinese. next thing you know, they'll be also handling big business like another SM-like mall chain.. perhaps Park City or Kim City Mall? :genius:

Hmm, meron akong kaklaseng koreano dito sa NY. Tnanong ko kung meron ba syang alam sa Pinas. Sabi nya yung mga ibang Koreano daw pumupunta lang nang Pinas para Matutong mag-ingles. Ewan ko kung totoo yun.

What, they go the the Philippines to learn english. Then I guess you should take what he said as an compliment.

Chinese immigrants have been settling in the Philippines for over four hundred years now. Over the last hundred years, a distinct ethnic "Chinese" community arose in the Philippines due to several factors: arrival of Chinese female immigrants, citizenship bar for Chinese immigrants, Chinese Civil War and the Cold War. However, since the 70s, large numbers of the ethnic Chinese who suffered from intense and rabit anti-Chinese policies and sentiments from Filipinos and the Philippine State have left the Philippines for North America and Australiasia. These "Filipino-Chinese" are now part of multicultural societies in which Asian communities and Asian cultures are playing a big role. Ironically, Filipinos themselves are migrating en masse to these same destinations. The question now is: why do Chinese immigrants want to settle in the Philippines today? The Chinese State can not control Philippine Immigration. That is the responsibility of the Philippine State. Given the hostility and bias against Chinese and other Asians from Filipinos and the Philippines, the Philippine Government should BAN further immigration from China and other Asian countries and instead encourage WHITE immigrants from European countries. That way, Filipino women can intermarry with WHITE people so their children will turn into WHITE-skinned Eurasians.

As far as Filipino "Nationalism", you should ask the Filipino "Nationalists" why they supported the GENOCIDE of their own people during the Philippine-American "War"? Also, you should ask the Filipino "Nationalists" why they keep on promoting hatred and violence against China and the Chinese when they themselves are descendants of Chinese immigrants?

The so-called ethnic "Chinese" in the Philippines have already intermarried and assimilated into the Philippine Mainstream. Now, of course, if the Philippine Government keep allowing Chinese immigrants from China to settle in the Philippines, then you will have this perpetual problem of integrating and assimilating Chinese immigrants. The Chinese State has never encouraged Chinese emigration and in fact prior to the Burlingame Treaty of 1868, it was ILLEGAL for Chinese subjects of the Ming and Qing Emperors to emigrate. Why should Chinese Citizens today emigrate to THIRD WORLD countries like the Philippines when they can easily emigrate to FIRST WORLD countries like the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Scandinavia, etc. Please don't assume that the Han Chinese Race, the creators and founders of the world's greatest civilization and the now citizens of the next WORLD POWER is remotely INTERESTED in your F-CKED UP THIRD WORLD COUNTRY, intiende?

As for Malaysia and Indonesia, most of the Chinese immigrants were recruited by the British Imperialists after the abolition of African Slavery. They and the Indian coolies were exploited as part of the plantation system. In fact, Indian coolies formed the majority of workers in places like Trinidad and Tobago, Fiji, etc. As for your so-called "Malay" race, well, I am sorry to tell you that your "Malay" race DOES NOT exist! PERIOD!

There are chinese closed communities here like they only allowed to marry between chinese.
Chinese here like to be here and will stay here and make this their nation and they will fight for it because chinese who came were are victims of communist oppression and slavery in mainland china.

Well that is a stroy from our family friend whos father came from china, he was one of the many peasant slaves forced to work on a farm they were forced to wake up early in morning work on the fields until dark then at night make porters in warehouses transporting rice.

He could not take it anymore and decided to escape and he hid in transport vessel and he did not even know it is going he ended up in manila worked odds jobs moved from place to place like mindanao then cebu then he had a met his wife in iloilo and settled there.

If that were true, then how come China today sends the most foreign students to the best U.S. Universities? And that most of them (70-80%) return to China less then five years after graduating? In the late 80s and 90s, it used to be that most would stay behind in the U.S. Well, not anymore. And as far as communist oppression, what oppression? Go to Shenzhen and ask the Chinese there if they feel any oppression. The last time I was there, the Mercedez Benz SLK series was selling like hot cakes over there. If anything, it's far more oppressive to live under a THIRD WORLD regime where you're exposed to all kinds of crap on a daily basis. China is moving so far so fast that it's complete non-sense to suggest that somehow those oppressed "Intsiks" need to migrate to THIRD WORLD countries in order to escape from WHAT? The fastest-growing economy in world history? The rapidly emerging technology sector in China? The rise of the China on the world stage? Filipinos should go to Africa, Latin America, Australia, Canada, Europe, Central Asia, West Asia, etc. There they will find out the extent of China's influence. Maybe in the Philippines because Filipinos are so conditioned to look down on those INTSIK BEJOS and INTSIK BABOYS (most of whom by the way intermarried and assimilated) that they CAN NOT imagine that China is on its way to becoming the next GLOBAL POWER and possibly THE GLOBAL POWER surpassing both the ancient Roman Empire and the United States of today.

As for Singapore, who cares. There are lots of rich Chinese kids from mainland China who study in Singapore...but their parents don't want their children to acquire Singaporean Citizenships. Why? Because Singapore is part of Southeast Asia. Who cares about Southeast Asia when you are a citizen of the next GLOBAL POWER? Maybe in Canada or Australia, they MIGHT be willing to acquire citizenship over there. I know for a fact that in Vancouver, there are so many Chinese kids there from all over...Philippines, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Beijing, etc. Canadian Citizenship implies a North American Nationality. Singapore Citizenship implies Southeast Asian Nationality.

Go to the Tutuban or 168 Mall in Divisoria. Most of the Chinese "immigrants" there don't even bother applying for visas, permits, licenses, etc. They'll try their luck for a few years and then leave once they make some money. As for "closed" ethnic Chinese communities, most of them have already acquired Western passports for their children. Unless they want their grandchildren to become Filipinos, why should they intermarry their children with Filipinos if they already have, say, Canadian passports? Ask Tony Tan Kationg (the owner of Jollibee) if he is interested in having his children intermarry with Filipinos. His family is based in Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA. Really, the Republika ng Pilipinas? Who cares.

The Chinese in the Philippines usually allow Chinese men to marry a Filipina but they do not allow a Chinese woman to marry a Filipino. The Filipinas that Chinese men usually marry are concubines that is why there are many bastard tsinoys and tsinays in Binondo.

The reason why Chinese men marry Filipinas is because most of the Chinese immigrants to the Philippines are MEN. That was true for most of the 400 years that Chinese immigrants have been settling in the Philippines. (By the way, the Chinese are highly conservative and so Chinese females DON'T usually emigrate and leave their parents behind UNLESS they have found a groom in their destination countries). Concubines? I thought that was ILLEGAL in the Philippines! If they are already married men, their Filipina wives can sue them in court for BIGAMY! Maybe rich Chinese businessmen COULD afford concubines (such as Lucio Tan) but for most of the Chinese immigrants to the Philippines, their daily concern is SURVIVAL not SEX!

They do not really marry their Filipina Concubines they just support the children so it is not Bigamy.

You have to make the correlation between cultural sustenance and endogamous relationships. For example, in the Indian communities outside of India, their lives revolve around Hinduism AND they tend to marry each other. Similarly, in Jewish communities outside of Israel, their lives revolve around Judaism AND they tend to marry each other. The same can be said for WASPs, Irish Catholics, etc. Nothing new here. There will always be an ethnic Chinese community in the Philippines who want to maintain their cultural identity in the same way that there is an ethnic Indian community in Hong Kong who want to maintain their cultural identity (many of them by the way acquired Chinese Citizenships after Hong Kong's reversion to Chinese rule). Unless you want to prohibit the existence of an ethnic Chinese community in the Philippines. But you could extend that to other ethnic groups in the country. For example, Ilocanos would want to marry a fellow Ilocano, Cebuanos would want to marry a fellow Cebuano, etc. Indeed, you could even apply religion as grounds for endogamous relationships, e.g., Catholics would want to marry a fellow Catholic, etc. I mean really, why would a Chinese want to marry a Filipino unless he/she wants to have a Filipino Family? You should check out Binondo (or Greenhills) for that matter. For all you know, the "Intsiks" you meet either have 1) Western Passports or 2) Chinese Passports or 3) Both. Just to cite my case, ALL OF MY FRIENDS except for a few from high school in Binondo have left the country for Canada, Taiwan, USA, Australia, etc. Many are even going back to China after three or four generations AND getting married in CHINA!

Times have changed. The Philippines is not doing well at all. And it's getting worse by the day. Who wants to be Filipino in this day and age? Why should Chinese (men or women) want to emigrate to the Philippines, marry Filipinos and raise their families as Filipinos when Filipinos themselves want to leave their country and marry foreigners? Doesn't make sense at all. The past century was painful and humiliating for China and Chinese. Filipinos should read THEIR history to see what they did. It was not too long ago that Filipinos were calling Chinese people "INTSIK BABOYS" and "INTSIK BEJOS". And now they expect Chinese people to love THEM and THEIR country. Make no mistake about it. The ethnic Chinese did well in the Philippines against all odds. BUT PLEASE DON'T ASSUME THAT SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO REMAIN IN THE PHILIPPINES AND THAT WE HAVE TO RAISE OUR CHILDREN AS FILIPINOS! WE DON'T NEED TO AND WE DON'T WANT TO!

i was not talking about today even 10 years ago or 20 years... i was talking about an event 50-60 years ago told by an old chinese man who came from china.

listen here dip$hit....we don't really give a f-ck if you stay or go. in fact i would be happy if intsiks who think like you leave...because ur nothing more then a leech. Keep on provoking the majority and u might find urself in a situation like Malaysia/Indonesia.

and malay is an ethnicity not a race. and i support a more malay-centric philippines....like they have in Malaysia
in fact if chinese leave the Philippines I assure you...the corruptness level will drop. Only chinese-filipinos loyal to the Philippines should be allowed to stay...all leeches must leave

A fu-kin men, leeches.

Good
If Philippines become like Singapore.

Bad
If Philippines become like Malaysia & Indonesia

Fortunately, Chinese-Filipinos have assimilated to the Philippine society. So no big racial issues like in Malaysia & Indonesia.

Filipinos are less racist than Malays & Indonesians. This has to do with Filipino culture and religion.

Just an observation. Non-muslim South East Asian nations get along well with their Chinese minorities.

maybe thats the problem...u know in other non-muslim SEAsian nations....minorities (especially those who originate outside the country) actually respect the natives/majority of the country.

Maybe the Philippines should be more like Malaysia and Indonesia.....considering both those countries are doing better then the Philippines. THere should be some type of law that u have to be ethnic filipino to be in politics and get government jobs.

You can't be serious. Can't you see a government official telling a forth generation man that he can't hold a job because great, great grandapa was from country X. You will just have other ethnic groups taking up the gun to gain their liberty.

But that's racial discrimination.

Look at the racial mess Malaysia & Indonesia are in.

If you want a role model for a multi-ethnic country, it should be Singapore.

All Filipino citizens regardless of ethnicity and religion should have equal rights.

The Chinese usually assimilate into Filipino culture while keeping tradition at home. Most of the Chinese Filipinos I know can't even speak Chinese anymore.

That's very true. Some Chinese-Filipinos are even more Filipinos than some ethnic Filipinos.

Precisely. Nobody is denying that there are indigenous majorities in all of these Southeast Asian countries. The Chinese immigrants and their descendants will always be treated as outsiders no matter how long they've lived in these countries. It doesn't matter if they intermarry and assimilate; it doesn't matter if they integrate and contribute to the economy, culture, society, etc. of these host countries. Their Chinese ethnicity/ancestry will always come up as an issue. That's a fact of life. So why bother sticking around. In fact, the Chinese who DID intermarry and assimilate to become the so-called "mestizos" in the Philippines have a lot of problems TODAY with respect to their identity. They'll do anything to hide or disown their Chinese ancestry. This leads to self-hatred or self-doubt. They then try to create artificial identities such as "Hispanic", "Latino", "Western", "Catholic" identities.

These countries are not settler-immigrant countries unlike North American, Latin America or Australia. In the case of North America or Australia, Chinese immigrants were instrumental in the civil rights movement which succeeded in establishing multicultural regimes in countries like Canada and in states like California. I don't expect the same thing to happen in Southeast Asia because these countries are not settler-immigrant countries. Remember the height of Chinese emigration to Southeast Asia occurred during the Civil Wars in China and the subsequent Cold War. That was the push factor. The pull factor was the need by Western Powers for cheap labor or reliable workers. (The British in Malaya, for example and the Anglo Capitalists in California). This gave rise to the notorious coolie trade which lasted from 1850-1870 which China and the Western Powers banned after the signing of the Treaty of Burlingame in 1868.

The last 500 years is an aberration in that the Chinese State withdrew from Asian and global affairs. Historically, the Chinese State was hostile to foreign trade. During the first 1000 year of the Silk Trade after the Qin Dynasty for example, it was mostly foreigners (Persians, Arabs, Jews) who handled the foreign trade of China out of Chang'an now Xi'an. During the next 1000 years, it was mostly the Overseas Chinese from Fujian Province who handled the foreign trade of China including the Chinese leg of the Spanish Galleon Trade which involved Xiamen and Quanzhou and Manila. Now it is the Chinese State that is directly doing business with foreign countries. There is really no need for Chinese business people to emigrate to foreign countries just to handle China's foreign trade. They can do so as transnational expatriates and foreign business people.

There is no love lost between the ethnic Chinese who left all these countries for greener pastures in North America or back to Greater China. We had a job to do and once we did our jobs, it is time to move on to someplace else. The tone in the public discourse in all of these countries assumes that somehow the ethnic Chinese need to submit themselves to the ethnocentrism or prejudices of the indigenous majorities of these countries. And which are often times exploited by demagogic politicians (as documented by Amy Chua in her excellent book "World on Fire"). If the ethnic Chinese are not wanted in these countries, the solution is quite simple: pack their bags and move somewhere else.

I know many Filipinos who hate the Instiks but they like the Bumbays maybe its because of the 5/6 or they just assimilate into the Filipino culture better. They even tell me that Instiks are masungit but Bumbays are mabait.

I wonder if this guy has ever been to Cebu.

Most Chinese immigrants to the Philippines intermarry and assimilate. In the old days, they had to convert to Catholicism before they were allowed to intermarry. Their descendants were called "mestizos de sangley". From 1600 to 1900, that was the case. However, from 1900 to 2000, a distinct ethnic "intsik" community came into being. It is this group of people who have left since the 70s. Those who remained have acquired Philippine Citizenship and have since intermarried and assimilated. Those who have remained ethnically Chinese, i.e., who can speak Chinese or identify with China, are quite few not counting the old-timers and the newly-arrived immigrants from mainland China. And what happens is the whole cycle repeats again.

The earlier generation of mixed-race people called "mestizos de sangley" suffer from an ETHNIC identity crisis. There is no question that they have become Filipinos in terms of their NATIONALITY, i.e., they have participated in the social and political life of the Filipino Nation-State and have provided leadership roles in many instances. However, they are quite uneasy about their Chinese ANCESTRY. They will never be "indios" no matter how long they have lived in the Philippines because of their alien blood. This was an existential problem that Jose Rizal faced. He was a "mestizo de sangley" who didn't want to be a "mestizo de sangley". The same thing happens today in the Philippines. JUST LOOK AT ALL THOSE SO-CALLED "MESTIZOS" PRETENDING TO "WESTERN", "HISPANIC", "EUROPEAN" or "LATINO". Most (90%) of them are descendants of Chinese immigrants!

It is a complete distortion of historical facts to suggest that Chinese immigrants don't intermarry or assimilate. It's the other way around. MOST OF THEM INTERMARRIED AND ASSIMILATED FOR THE PAST 400 YEARS!!!

The Mestizo the Sangley only happened in Binondo and nearby towns considering the Philippines is a big place. There are many Spanish Mestizos in Intramuros, Zamboanga, Negros, Cavite, Quezon, etc...

i like the philippines as it is. i hope it does not become another singapore because singapore is like a jail. lol it seems its not only here in Australia but the philippines too. China is overtaking the world. btw. antibeast why do you think Chines people would be better off in other countries. chines people have had a rough history here in australia alot of racism and back during the gold rush a 'union' was created banning chinese immigrants and this union still is in existence but now for a different cause

first alot of filipino mary foreigners because to have money for there family.

chinese people come to the philippines because its better than China. well why would they come here in the first place to live?

philippines is not worse off than china mate

thats the thing people like you annoy the hell out of me

The Mestizos de Sangley resided mostly in Binondo, Sta. Cruz, Tondo, Manila but spread to Bulacan, Cavite, Laguna, Tarlac, Cebu, Iloilo, Negros, etc. The Chinese Mestizos outnumbered the Spanish Mestizos by a factor of 10 to 1. And you're right -- most of the Spanish Mestizos lived in Intramuros because they were considered "white". That's why Rizal's hero and heroine -- Crisostomo Ibarra and Maria Clara -- were both Spanish Mestizos. The Chinese Mestizos were not only more numerous but they were richer than everybody else. It's ironic that these people would hide their Chinese ancestry today and then claim that Chinese immigrants don't intermarry and assimilate when in fact they themselves are descendants of Chinese immigrants. What happens instead is that they would claim descent from the Spanish Conquistadores who massacred their ancestors, the "sangleys'. Rizal disowned his own "sangley" ancestors in his book Noli Me Tangere:

"'No, it was nothing of the kind', answered the man who had asked the first question, 'It was the Chinamen who had rebelled.' With this he shut his window. 'The Chinamen!' echoed all in great astonishment. 'That's why not one of them is to be seen!' 'What a pity!' exclaimed Sister Ruja. 'To get killed just before Christmas when they bring around their presents! They should have waited until New Year's."

This is where the following ethnic slur came from:

"AKALO MESTIZO, ANAK NG BABOY LANG PALA!"

Australia did have a WHITE Australia policy back in the 70s. But times have changed. For Australia to become part of Asia, they have to accomodate Asians. By the way, when Filipinos emigrate to White Countries, they keep their anti-Asian sentiments with them. Examples:

"Ang daming intsik dito ah, pati sa America!"

"Intsik yan hindi marunong mag-Ingles!"

In fact, the more than 400 years of colonial and semi-colonial history of the Philippines has produced a deeply-engrained anti-Asian racism and prejudice in the hearts, minds and souls of Filipinos. They'll smile at you and be friendly towards you. But deep inside their psyche is a strong desire to be white. And to be white means becoming anti-Asian. White Australians have actually improved a lot since then. But in the Philippines, it keeps getting worse...

That is exagerated it is only 1.5 to 1.

http://www.upto11.net/generic_wiki.php?q=d...s#ethnic_groups

Here are my figures for the 19th century:

Race Population (1810) Population (1850) Population (1894)
Indio 2,395,677 4,725,000 6,768,000
Mestizo de Sangley 120,621 240,000 500,000
Sangley 7,000 10,000 100,000
Blanco 4,000 25,000 35,000
Total 2,527,298 5,000,000 7,403,000

Blanco (white) includes peninsulares, insulares and mestizos. The peninsulares/insulares were quite small, between 5,000 (1850) to 10,000 (1894). So, the mestizos de sangley outnumbered the spanish mestizos by 10 to 1 (1850) and by 20 to 1 (1894). This is the reason why the idea that the most of the "mestizos" in the Philippines are descendants of Spanish Conquistadores is a big, flat lie.

Blackwood’s magazine for August, 1818, has an account of conditions in Manila and the Philippines from data given by an English merchant who left the Islands in 1798 after twenty years’ residence in which he accumulated a fortune.
“Your first question, with respect to the Spanish population, must refer to native Spaniards only; as their numerous descendants, through all the variety of half-castes, would include one third at least of the whole population of Luconia (i.e., Luzon–A. C.)
“Of native Spaniards, accordingly, settled in the Philippine Islands, the total number may be stated at 2,000 not military. The military, including all descriptions, men and officers, are about 2,500, out of which number the native regiments are officered These last, in 1796-7, were almost entirely composed of South Americans and were reckoned at 5,000 men, making a military force of about 7,500.
“The castes bearing a mixture of the Spanish blood are in Luconia alone at least 200,000. The Sangleys, or Chinese descendants, are upwards of 20,000, and Indians, who call themselves the original Tagalas, about 340,000, making a total population in that island of about 600,000 souls. What may be the respective numbers in the other Philippine Islands I never had any opportunity of learning.”

http://www.authorama.com/former-philippines-b-8.html

I can only think of one racist person in this forum at the moment. Guess who that is?

It is common knowledge that when Filipinos move to white countries they'll disown their own people right away and think they are white...There's even a name for this: crab mentality...

That not how crab mentality is in common usage. It would be one pulling another down. Saying if I can't have it I will stop you from having it. It has nothing to do with pretending to be Hispanic instead of Filipino. Outside of the Philippines there is no social gain in the distinction.

This is incorrect. Edgar Wickberg observed that Westerners such as Blackwood assume incorrectly that just because the Philippines was a Spanish Colony the "mestizos" with Spanish names must be Spanish mestizos. W.E. Retana in his testimony before the Philippine Commission in 1902 explained that in the Philippines unlike Latin America, Spanish mestizos were so few that "mestizos" was a shorthand for "mestizos de sangley" which means CHINESE mestizos. For example, the "Gremio de Mestizos de Binondo" was the name of the corporal body responsible for handling the community affairs of the "mestizos de sangley". By the way, the Spaniards were forbidden to live outside of Intramuros. Only Alcades, Frayles and Guardia Civil were allowed to live in the countryside. Assuming that there 100 towns in the Philippines and that the lone white Spanish priest RAPED one indio woman per year for 300 years, that would give a Spanish mestizo population of 100 x 300 = 30000. But these Spanish mestizos were bastards and thus not counted in the official census.

Since when the fcuk? I hope nobody listen to this guy.

What might happen is that you are not seen as filipino by the general public. Depending upon what physical features they pick up you are mistaken for Mexican or the dominant asian group in the area. All asians are seen alike. Some might be able to define your ethnic group upon hearing a family name. Hispanic name+asian features=filipino. Japanese sounding, Vietnamese sounding etc. I think that Koreans versus Chinese are the most often misidentified even when the name is known.

replace white for hispanic or hawiian...they r just as bad as leeches like antibeast
most r filipinos born in the US

Precisely, they'll pretend to be from Latin America and call themselves Latinos. Or they'll pick up some Spanish words, learn to dance the Salsa and claim they're Hispanics due to their alleged Spanish blood. By the way, Gary Valenciano was offered once to redub his songs in Spanish and market himself as a Hispanic to the larger Hispanic market in the U.S. and Latin America, but he refused. He wanted to be known as Filipino. However, there is a tendency among Filipinos to claim Spanish ancestry when they don't have an iota of Spanish blood in them and then use this alleged mestizaje to feel superior to their own kind. They don't really feel any cultural affinity or kinship with Asians (whether East or Southeast Asians) and mistakenly assume that they have any cultural affinity or kinship with Hispanics and Latinos in the U.S. or with Latin Americans. Actually, the crab mentality also works in the sense that if a fellow Filipino marries someone white for instance, they'll get jealous and try to bismirch him/her. In reality, they want to be white themselves which is expressed in numerous ways aside from marrying white such as wearing western brands, patronizing western cuisine, consuming western pop/high culture, etc. In fact, they try to outdo one another in this quite hilarious competition to become white.