sofianemerah1
Jun 22 2006, 11:52 AM
Goodness is it that time already Samurai Vs Blank thread is here once again
Anyway A Carthaginian Sacred Band Soldier Vs a Japanese Samurai 1 on 1
The Sacred Band soldier is armed with a "Medium Thrusting Spear" an orginal Gladius invented by the iberians, wears light loin cloth armor with Iron plates protecting the "Critical" points such as neck armor greaves shoulder pads and an iron protection area in the chest.
And the Samurai well iam sure you know

Jarhier
Jun 22 2006, 12:11 PM
isnt spear pretty much useless without them banded together to form phalanx? samurai should be more flexible and could win easily
sofianemerah1
Jun 22 2006, 12:22 PM
Yeah without the support of there unit the officer corp on a 1 on 1 battle is hopeless. But that was in the old days of Carthage. The Phoenician Empire first relied on the phalanx as a "Major Battle Multiplier" as was Declared by councilmen Hanno the first. But after Carthage's war with the Greeks the Phoenicians (carthaginians) saw need to diversify there military through imported Mercenary armies to combat the West. One such import was the Gladius and with it invented Techniques and manoverous to make "Critical Strikes" on a 1 on 1.
First the medium spear wouldent match well in a phalanx without a larger spear the spears purpose was only to thrust and throw the enemy into a guard or parry then quickly discarding the weapon and striking from the sides of the guarding enemy they would strike swiftly to finish the battle then and there. Should things go wrong they have there shield to support a prolonged battle.
The Samurai on the other hand keep both areas of there side and front well guarded it could be pretty close.
The Carthaginians were pretty good at importing other culutures armies for warfare how they managed to defeat there enemies the greeks and Romans on numerous occastions shows this.
Manun
Jun 22 2006, 12:45 PM
Samurai katanas can cut throught metal so im not so sure. And steel wasnt invented until some hudred years ago so i.....
Samurai strikes fast whereas spear men usually try to hold an advantage with their longer weapon. Also speak isnt something u can attack fast with it, u need to charge with it to pierce someone.
EDIT: btw, whats phalanx?
tienken
Jun 23 2006, 12:26 PM
First off, a katana can't cut trough steel anny one with a little experience in blacksmithing will know this. When you harden steel in order to make it take a good edge it becomes very brittle and is likley to crack or break when struck against another hard object. The medival blacksmiths in europe could have made swords that where just as sharp as the samurai swords but choose not to because it isn't practical on the battlefield. And this brings us to the last point, the sword was the last dich weapon of the samurai and is the equvalent of the pistol officers carry today. On the battlefield the primary weapons of samurai where bows and spears.
fraggo
Jun 23 2006, 12:47 PM
samurai swords accounted for less than 5% of all casualties in war or so according to a documentary, they were mostly used for beheading during executions.
sofianemerah1
Jun 24 2006, 03:42 AM
Which is my point, Notice please on the first picture an African Infantry of Carthage (North Africa belonging to the Berber Arabs and the Phoenician Carthaginians long ago and to this day) Most likely this type of soldier served in Carthage's Poeni or Libyan Infantry and then was given the high arcy of Baal's blessing making him into the famous sacred band. He is equiped with a short thrusting spear and most important, a gladius. A weapon invented by the Carthaginians and the Iberians and later the Romans copied it.
This weapon was devestating and completly dominate in a close range battle. Thrust with your spear throw your enemy into a unfavorable postion and more importantly get yourself in close then pull out the gladius and finish the job.
iam going to say it will be close the samurai will most likely win and then again the hardned sacred band soldier isent an easy enemy to bring down.
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