ntn1987
Jul 2 2006, 01:26 PM
If we are determine to unite the Vietnamese people then we need a new national flag. The national flag is the symbol of the nation and we cannot use neither the VC or the VNCH flag because it both doesnt represent a united Viet Nam, we need a new national flag.
I came up with a few design.
Yellow represent the Vietnamese people skin, and red represent the bloody battlefield that we have fought and are fighting on.


Post up your design or your ideas about what the flag have to looks like and what its elements have to represent.
Remember, make the design simple but meaningful and if possible, beautiful. ^^
Happy Asian
Jul 2 2006, 01:31 PM
The first one look good.....the second look uncreative.
Heavenandearth
Jul 2 2006, 01:35 PM
We should also incorporate blue for peace and the ocean, and green for the lush land that our culture is based on, and perhaps white for truth, the basis of all things.
Happy Asian
Jul 2 2006, 01:37 PM
I can't imagine blue, green and white on our flag.
Personally I'm used to red and yellow.
arun
Jul 2 2006, 01:39 PM
QUOTE(ntn1987 @ Jul 2 2006, 01:26 PM)

If we are determine to unite the Vietnamese people then we need a new national flag. The national flag is the symbol of the nation and we cannot use neither the VC or the VNCH flag because it both doesnt represent a united Viet Nam, we need a new national flag.
I came up with a few design.
Yellow represent the Vietnamese people skin, and red represent the bloody battlefield that we have fought and are fighting on.


Post up your design or your ideas about what the flag have to looks like and what its elements have to represent.
Remember, make the design simple but meaningful and if possible, beautiful. ^^
why don't you shove your new flag up your anus.
ntn1987
Jul 2 2006, 01:40 PM
How about a symbol/chinese character in the middle. Words like "thống nhất'' 统一...........
Some sort of symbol......
Happy Asian
Jul 2 2006, 01:41 PM
Calm down, arun.
ntn1987
Jul 2 2006, 01:42 PM
QUOTE(arun @ Jul 2 2006, 01:39 PM)

why don't you shove your new flag up your anus.
Why do you oppose and detest the VIETNAMESE UNITY movement so much?
We are Viet and we should unite.
arun
Jul 2 2006, 01:43 PM
I hate Nguy who pretends he's not Nguy then asks to change my flag. fu-k that.
Heavenandearth
Jul 2 2006, 01:47 PM
Try to stay away from the similarity of red and yellow. Think about it! Red and yellow seem to be the same basis for the two flags that we are trying to change. Isn't it strange that they are the same, red and yellow and both sides are just as bad as the other?
One should be a bit more creative to represent a new direction.
Happy Asian
Jul 2 2006, 01:49 PM
fu-k blue, green and white.
ntn1987
Jul 2 2006, 01:51 PM
QUOTE(Heavenandearth @ Jul 2 2006, 01:35 PM)

We should also incorporate blue for peace and the ocean, and green for the lush land that our culture is based on, and perhaps white for truth, the basis of all things.
How about a simple 3 stripes flag? Like the German/Italian flag.
3 stripes:blue=hope/peace, yellow=Viet people (skin colour), and red=bloody battlefield/green=our land.
Blue=peace/unity is placed on top to represent the objective (of our people struggle). Red=battledfield so its placed on the bottom, and yellow=viet peo. skin in the middle.

Man it looks.......................mmmmm
blacklight
Jul 2 2006, 01:54 PM
Same flag design as currently, except that the background is blue - where blue stands for freedom or democracy or both. Take your pick.
I don't want any references to skin color, as our notions of citizenship don't make any reference to skin color and as we have 54 ethnic minorities. In addition, we'll most likely have in the future Vietnamese citizens in the future with blond hair and blue eyes.
Heavenandearth
Jul 2 2006, 01:54 PM
What do you have against them. Do we want something new or stay with the old and the trouble, the corrution, the abuse of our Vietnamese women and children. Our culture is based on peace and truth first. Fighting is what we only do when it is forced upon us, but we are not a war nation that is out to conquer, supress and corrupt anybody. That is the Chinese an USA style, I am afraid I have to say so.
Happy Asian
Jul 2 2006, 01:58 PM
QUOTE(ntn1987 @ Jul 3 2006, 04:51 AM)

How about a simple 3 stripes flag? Like the German/Italian flag.
3 stripes:blue=hope/peace, yellow=Viet people (skin colour), and red=bloody battlefield/green=our land.
Blue=peace/unity is placed on top to represent the objective (of our people struggle). Red=battledfield so its placed on the bottom, and yellow=viet peo. skin in the middle.

Man it looks.......................mmmmm
Oh no not the Khmer Krom flag.
arun
Jul 2 2006, 02:02 PM

Khmer Krom flag? No wonder tnt hates both three sticks and VN flag. Well, I was wrong for calling tnt VNCH.
ntn1987
Jul 2 2006, 02:03 PM
Why dont each one of you design one and post it up so we can all get a clearer understanding.
Happy Asian
Jul 2 2006, 02:05 PM
That is disturbing.
Heavenandearth
Jul 2 2006, 02:08 PM
Do it perpendicularly. Blue represents peace and ocean, surrounding a perpendicular yellow stripe to represent one people, unified, with a white star in the middle to represent the purity and sanity of our culture. Peace reinforces peace, good sense reinforces good sense.
ntn1987
Jul 2 2006, 02:10 PM
QUOTE(Heavenandearth @ Jul 2 2006, 02:08 PM)

Do it perpendicularly. Blue represents peace and ocean, surrounding a perpendicular yellow stripe to represent one people, unified, with a white star in the middle to represent the purity and sanity of our culture. Peace reinforces peace, good sense reinforces good sense.
That will look like a combination of the VC's and the VNCH's flag....
supernovasp
Jul 2 2006, 02:12 PM
all these flags are hella tacky.
Preydominator
Jul 2 2006, 02:23 PM
QUOTE(ntn1987 @ Jul 2 2006, 09:10 PM)

That will look like a combination of the VC's and the VNCH's flag....
LOL @ Khmer Krom flag. How about this Chinese flag
http://flagspot.net/images/c/cn!bar3.gif
Byron
Jul 2 2006, 02:23 PM
QUOTE(Preydominator @ Jul 2 2006, 03:23 PM)

LOL @ Khmer Krom flag. How about this Chinese flag
http://flagspot.net/images/c/cn!bar3.gifThe current Vietnamese flag blows all of those away.
supernovasp
Jul 2 2006, 02:32 PM
I think Viet Nam Quoc Dan Dang flag is the best in here (Vietnamese Nationalist Party)
ntn1987
Jul 2 2006, 02:34 PM
QUOTE(supernovasp @ Jul 2 2006, 02:32 PM)

I think Viet Nam Quoc Dan Dang flag is the best in here (Vietnamese Nationalist Party)

Can you post that flag up?
supernovasp
Jul 2 2006, 02:38 PM
preydominator posted it before
Heavenandearth
Jul 2 2006, 02:43 PM
QUOTE(supernovasp @ Jul 2 2006, 02:38 PM)

preydominator posted it before

This is not bad, but it needs a perpedicular yellow stripe to represent one unified Vietnamese people. Also, the star should be ten edged star to represent all directions coming together, as we say there are ten directions, 8 directions plus Heaven and Earth. I voted for the incorporation of yellow, red, blue and white. This flag just lacks some more meanings.
supernovasp
Jul 2 2006, 02:45 PM
^^ too complicated although i suspected this flag is also based on Chinese KMT
Heavenandearth
Jul 2 2006, 02:53 PM
QUOTE(supernovasp @ Jul 2 2006, 02:45 PM)

^^ too complicated although i suspected this flag is also based on Chinese KMT
It is just that flag with two minor changes, a perpendicular stripe to represent one unified people, connected to Heaven and Earth, the basis of our culture and a ten edged star to represent coming of all elements, including Heaven and Earth. That flag lacks the representation of one unified people coming together. These two changes will give it that; that is what I think. Are there anymore suggestions?
arun
Jul 2 2006, 02:59 PM
Choke on this
ntn1987
Jul 2 2006, 03:02 PM
QUOTE(arun @ Jul 2 2006, 02:59 PM)

Choke on this

If youre a supporter of the VC then why are you living outside of VN?
arun
Jul 2 2006, 03:06 PM
QUOTE(ntn1987 @ Jul 2 2006, 03:02 PM)

If youre a supporter of the VC then why are you living in the USA (or outside of VN)?
I don't feel like answering a Khmer Krom who pretends to be Vietnamese.
supernovasp
Jul 2 2006, 03:08 PM
Vietnam Quoc Dan Dang is a legitimate flag.. I wonder if you get arrested for flying that flag in Vietnam (on nguyen thai hoc street hahah)
ntn1987
Jul 2 2006, 03:10 PM
QUOTE(arun @ Jul 2 2006, 03:06 PM)

I don't feel like answering a Khmer Krom who pretends to be Vietnamese.
You wont answer because you knows your answer will contradict your perspective (toward the VC). Correct? HAHAHAHA
Preydominator
Jul 2 2006, 03:11 PM
Arun told us on LV forum he is a colonel of the QDND Vietnam. NTN you better watchout, when you made an anti XHCN Vietnam post and when you come back to Vietnam to visit your relatives, he will visit you at the Tan Son Nhut airport.
Heavenandearth
Jul 2 2006, 03:13 PM
We are tying to create a new direction by creating a new flag that will give a more effective pressure on the VC govt. Those that stand against this are likely afraid of the changes. They are just scared.
Don't worry we are only interested in pressuring the govt for changes, not overtaking it. We don't want more bloodshed.
arun
Jul 2 2006, 03:14 PM
QUOTE(ntn1987 @ Jul 2 2006, 03:10 PM)

You wont answer because you knows your answer will contradict your perspective (toward the VC). Correct? HAHAHAHA
What kind of "America is the land of milk and honey and the streets are paved with gold" don't you understand, Mr. Khmer-Krom?
Since you live in Orange County, why don't you go to Phuoc Loc Tho, the Chinese shopping mall, and tell people you hate the yellow and three stick flag! Call an ambulance in advance.
QUOTE(Preydominator @ Jul 2 2006, 03:11 PM)

Arun told us on LV forum he is a colonel of the QDND Vietnam. NTN you better watchout, when you made an anti XHCN Vietnam post and when you come back to Vietnam to visit your relatives, he will visit you at the Tan Son Nhut airport.

I've been promoted to general!
Heavenandearth
Jul 2 2006, 03:19 PM
QUOTE(Heavenandearth @ Jul 2 2006, 03:13 PM)

We are tying to create a new direction by creating a new flag that will give a more effective pressure on the VC govt. Those that stand against this are likely afraid of the changes. They are just scared.
Don't worry we are only interested in pressuring the govt for changes, not overtaking it. We don't want more bloodshed.
Let's not be sidetracked.
Even the VCs are trying to change, but their changes will be ineffective since there is no really outside pressure for changes. We are hoping to rectifiy that soon!
ntn1987
Jul 2 2006, 03:20 PM
QUOTE(arun @ Jul 2 2006, 03:14 PM)

What kind of "America is the land of milk and honey and the streets are paved with gold" don't you understand, Mr. Khmer-Krom?
Since you live in Orange County, why don't you go to Phuoc Loc Tho, the Chinese shopping mall, and tell people you hate the yellow and three stick flag! Call an ambulance in advance.
I've been promoted to general!
I dont hate the VNCH's flag. I am just trying to create unity amongs our Vietnamese countrymen by designing a flag that would represent a united Viet Nam. Our countrymen sacrificed themselves under those flags. I respected both the VC's and the VNCH's flag.
Can you answer my question? If youre supporting the VC why are you living in the USA?
arun
Jul 2 2006, 03:33 PM
QUOTE(ntn1987 @ Jul 2 2006, 03:20 PM)

I dont hate the VNCH's flag. I am just trying to create unity amongs our Vietnamese countrymen by designing a flag that would represent a united Viet Nam. Our countrymen sacrificed themselves under those flags. I respected both the VC's and the VNCH's flag.
Can you answer my question? If youre supporting the VC why are you living in the USA?
You are full of sh*#. First, you claim to be Vietnamese then you post the Khmer Krom flag to represent Viet Nam. You post a link to a web site that has images from a Japanese porn movie then you claim they are real images of Vietnam. The same web site has pictures of a Chinese artist pretending to be cooking and eating fetuses and claim the images are from Viet Nam and they are real.
Who in here is smart enough to understand "America is the land of milk and honey and the streets are paved with gold"? Perhaps you can explain to tnt1997.
PS: I don't make peace with Khmer Krom either.
Oh, yeah, I forgot how you threatened me with bodily harm but when I give you a chance to do that, you said you were just joking.
Heavenandearth
Jul 2 2006, 03:38 PM
arun is just scared, as in "I run". Hihihi
We don't have to explain further. We just need to agree on one new flag.
ntn1987
Jul 2 2006, 03:44 PM
QUOTE(arun @ Jul 2 2006, 03:33 PM)

You are full of sh*#. First, you claim to be Vietnamese then you post the Khmer Krom flag to represent Viet Nam. You post a link to a web site that has images from a Japanese porn movie then you claim they are real images of Vietnam. The same web site has pictures of a Chinese artist pretending to be cooking and eating fetuses and claim the images are from Viet Nam and they are real.
Who in here is smart enough to understand "America is the land of milk and honey and the streets are paved with gold"? Perhaps you can explain to tnt1997.
PS: I don't make peace with Khmer Krom either.
I didnt post the Khmer Krom flag because i dont know what it looks like. I posted a design of my idea. Blue=sky/unity/hope, Yellow=Vietnamese people, and Red=the bloody battlefield. If my design look similiar to the Khmer Krom its only similiared through looks, not meanings.
The website i posted do not belong to me. I never say that everything on it is actual photos of Vietnam, theyre photos collected by an anti-communist, only some of them show some images of modern Vietnam, that is images of beggars, poverty in general. Can you deny that? If there was any misunderstanding then i am sorry and i have apologise already.
You claims that youre supporting the VC when the fact is that youre actually living in the USA. Youre contradicting yourself. Begone.........
You're nothing worthy of the Vietnamese honour.
arun
Jul 2 2006, 03:45 PM
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ntn1987
Jul 2 2006, 03:45 PM
QUOTE(Heavenandearth @ Jul 2 2006, 03:38 PM)

arun is just scared, as in "I run". Hihihi
We don't have to explain further. We just need to agree on one new flag.
Yes, certainly.
So..what have we agreed on? What does the new flag need?
Heavenandearth
Jul 2 2006, 03:47 PM
One can live in USA and not supporting its rapes and murder and lies. However, what we should be focused on is to agree on one new flag.
ntn1987
Jul 2 2006, 03:49 PM
I think a simple 3 stripes flag will do. We just need to decide on the colours and maybe some symbol in the center.
Heavenandearth
Jul 2 2006, 03:49 PM
It needs this:
QUOTE(supernovasp @ Jul 2 2006, 02:38 PM)

preydominator posted it before

QUOTE(Heavenandearth @ Jul 2 2006, 02:43 PM)

This is not bad, but it needs a perpedicular yellow stripe to represent one unified Vietnamese people. Also, the star should be ten edged star to represent all directions coming together, as we say there are ten directions, 8 directions plus Heaven and Earth. I voted for the incorporation of yellow, red, blue and white. This flag just lacks some more meanings.
QUOTE(Heavenandearth @ Jul 2 2006, 02:53 PM)

It is just that flag with two minor changes, a perpendicular yellow stripe to represent one unified people, connected to Heaven and Earth, the basis of our culture and a ten edged star to represent coming of all elements (as we are scattering 8 conners of the world), including Heaven and Earth. That flag lacks the representation of one unified people coming together. These two changes will give it that; that is what I think. Are there anymore suggestions?
arun
Jul 2 2006, 03:53 PM
QUOTE(ntn1987 @ Jul 2 2006, 03:45 PM)

Yes, certainly.
So..what have we agreed on? What does the new flag need?
I think I know how to settle this. Since you threatened to beat me up, I'll give you a chance. How about you giving me your address and a picture, and I'll let you know when I will come to your house and we'll have a fight.
Heavenandearth
Jul 2 2006, 03:57 PM
arun do what you are and "run". This is a topic on a new flag. We all know you are scared. You can now "run"
ntn1987
Jul 2 2006, 03:58 PM
QUOTE(arun @ Jul 2 2006, 03:53 PM)

I think I know how to settle this. Since you threatened to beat me up, I'll give you a chance. How about you giving me your address and a picture, and I'll let you know when I will come to your house and we'll have a fight.
@Heaven
you are not denying that xyz is also you?
True man uses his words to win battle.
Seriously if you not discussing anything related to the topic, dont bother post those meaningless words. Thank you.
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