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grandmaster
What do you guys think. Wouldn't it be great for mongols to unite with china and have a better economy? Tell me how you feel about it.
Suijen
No.

Okay let me explain why.

If Mongolia becomes a part of China, the people of Mongolia will become an instant minority, and will be treated as such. That's not what they want.
Jt (mongolian)
QUOTE(grandmaster @ Jul 11 2006, 10:10 PM) [snapback]2041622[/snapback]

What do you guys think. Wouldn't it be great for mongols to unite with china and have a better economy? Tell me how you feel about it.

well for my opinion china should become apart of Mongolia so that way they can be greater Mongolia right icon_wink.gif
and plz why don't go see the doctor embarassedlaugh.gif
shaolin01
no , mongolia should remain in its own region. they are a buffer state between china and russia.
moviez
QUOTE(Jt (mongolian) @ Jul 11 2006, 11:15 PM) [snapback]2041826[/snapback]

well for my opinion china should become apart of Mongolia so that way they can be greater Mongolia right icon_wink.gif
and plz why don't go see the doctor embarassedlaugh.gif



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Long Live Genghsis Khan.
SagaciousLuDa
Ghengis Khan is dead........embarassedlaugh.gif
Jt (mongolian)
QUOTE(SagaciousLuDa @ Aug 28 2006, 11:18 PM) [snapback]2231187[/snapback]

Ghengis Khan is dead........embarassedlaugh.gif

oh you just know that embarassedlaugh.gif laugh.gif sure.gif
SagaciousLuDa
No he said long live ghengis khan and of course his @ss is dead so yea....

good to see u lost the nazi flag pukeface.gif
lovelytruth
QUOTE(grandmaster @ Jul 11 2006, 09:10 PM) [snapback]2041622[/snapback]

What do you guys think. Wouldn't it be great for mongols to unite with china and have a better economy? Tell me how you feel about it.

Your dear Mr president of China(or boss of China,i have no idea how it,s called in comunist way of talkin) could not even dare to ask about it biggrin.gif
sigi2006
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Suren911
Let's not call each other names now. I think it would be a terrible idea for Mongolia to become a part of China. Too much complications and ethnic differences. As much as people like to disagree, Mongolians are VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY different from Han Chinese. Those differences are bound to cause conflicts.
Anda
QUOTE(Suijen @ Jul 11 2006, 07:14 PM) [snapback]2041634[/snapback]

No.Okay let me explain why.
If Mongolia becomes a part of China, the people of Mongolia will become an instant minority, and will be treated as such. That's not what they want.

Very good, if you put yourselves as mongolian, walk in mongolian shoe. Logical answer is NO.
we mongolians say -bariin suul baisnaas batganii tolgoi baisan deeree gej- literally means - it is better be head of fly than being tail tiger.


QUOTE(shaolin01 @ Jul 11 2006, 08:46 PM) [snapback]2041919[/snapback]

no , mongolia should remain in its own region. they are a buffer state between china and russia.

this is also very good. All 3 sides are happy with that. Mongolia stay INDEPENDANT and be buffer zone between the 2.
China and Russia would not need to deploy heavy military along the long border. It is cheeaper and safer to have Mongolia in between.
They like Mongolia in between

QUOTE(SagaciousLuDa @ Aug 28 2006, 08:18 PM) [snapback]2231187[/snapback]

Ghengis Khan is dead........embarassedlaugh.gif


still .... bad boy Saga Lu da... go go .it is time to masturbate yoourself again
Suren911
Whichever Chinese person says Genghis Khan is dead is REALLY stupid. Mongols aren't the ones worshipping some dead guy's dead body whereas Mao Zedong's dead body is on full display in Tiananmen square. Mao Zedong is dead too. Sheesh.

Mongolia will never be a part of China. End of story.
lovelytruth
Yeah end of story
aaaw
QUOTE(Suren911 @ Aug 29 2006, 05:03 PM) [snapback]2233802[/snapback]

Whichever Chinese person says Genghis Khan is dead is REALLY stupid.



wtf? embarassedlaugh.gif

Ghenghis khan is really alive, and was seen with Elvis presley and Tupac last week !

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Suren911
Nobody is arguing the fact whether Genghis Khan is biologically dead or not. It's a goddamn given. He was dead ages ago. His spirit lives on in his people's hearts. And please, this is the end of the story. Mongolia + China = never in a million years.
Mid-Night_Sun
LOL hilarious. dont give us that mongolian pride bull shyt. if you guys loved yourselves and your deserts that much you wouldnt have come in the first place. Chinese never told you guys to come. we built a huge @$$ fukn wall and you guys still came!

what in the world gave you guys the idea we want you guys to be apart of China????
toki
^ i don't think mongolians actually believe that... the original poster just asked this question.. don't take it too literally.
Mid-Night_Sun
...i dont care. i find the wall comment rather funny. i stand by that.
toki
well if you don't care. i guess i suggest you to quietly leave this thread.
Mid-Night_Sun
haha! suggestion noted. i guess i suggest you read some of the posts again then. clearly they are serious.
Son of A Sun
QUOTE(shaolin01 @ Jul 11 2006, 10:46 PM) [snapback]2041919[/snapback]

no , mongolia should remain in its own region. they are a buffer state between china and russia.

hi who are u then ? laugh.gif
SagaciousLuDa
China is too good to add Mongolia into the country embarassedlaugh.gif
Jt (mongolian)
QUOTE(SagaciousLuDa @ Sep 4 2006, 02:45 PM) [snapback]2258637[/snapback]

China is too good to add Mongolia into the country embarassedlaugh.gif

you mean too good at creating new kind of disease embarassedlaugh.gif
SagaciousLuDa
disease? what you mean son?
Suren911
SARS!

b!tch and moan all you want, assholes. Mongolia will never be a part of China. Try and take it, if you have balls.
kaiwen
invade mongolia and make it part of the prc?? that would damage chinas reputation alot , mongolia doesnt have any resources or any value. plus china would have to build infrastructure which comes right out of prc's pockets... for what in return? theres no point

china doesn't need land mass , there's no reason why china would want outer mongolia period
Suren911
resources? try anthropology, my friend. china loves to send teams in to dig up Mongolian artifacts and put it in chinese museums and then call it "chinese history."
Mid-Night_Sun
ROFL mongolian artifacts? yeah...and what might that be...a bowl?

oh my, that might have been too much. however if those "artifacts" were from the Yuan Dynasty or something of that nature, it has every right to be called Chinese history. this is because it is part of Chinese history...

if it isnt that, then what is stopping YOU guys from taking your bowls back? i do believe if China took your shyt, next move is yours. me thinks you guys dont have the balls to take them back.
Suren911
Of course, our artifacts such as Genghis Khan's tomb and armors and mummies. His spear with his favorite horse's hairs knitted onto the base of it was kept at a Tibetan temple. Red army raided many temples and stole the Khan's spear. It seems that you're just a Chinese nationalist. I have no problems with nationalists, as I am half Chinese myself, but to make degrading comments without factual proofs really doesn't make Chinese people look good. What are the Mongols' are rightfully the Mongols'. Chinese government will do anything to get those into Chinese museums and that is a fact. Just look at the museums in China.

Of course Yuan Dynasty is Chinese history. It's a Chinese's point of view. But put yourself in a Mongol's shoes. Is it not the Mongols' history as well? A Mongolian dynasty with areas including all of Mongolia, Xinjiang and inland China. But of course, it is commonly known as a part of Chinese history even though the ruler of that dynasty was a Mongolian man.

Mongolia does not have ill intentions towards China. What's been done is done. There is no point of claiming our artifacts back because it was already stolen a long time ago when that part of the world was at a violent political turmoil. But to have some Chinese person come to a Mongolian board and opening up such a thread is disgustingly offensive.

I'll be happy to converse and debate with anyone over any Chinese-Mongolian related subject with an open mind because I am both Chinese and Mongolian. But what this Chinese member did was s/he stepped over the line and took an offense. In addition to this fire, Chinese members have degraded Mongols by belittling Mongolian pride and history. And you, Midnight Sun, with your bowl comment was highly offensive. I cannot take the Chineses' sides on this one. I would defend the Chinese if some Mongolian decided to start saying idiotic crap about Chinese and degrading Chinese history, too. This thread was created to stir up fights and I'm surprised it's still not closed yet.

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me thinks you guys dont have the balls to take them back.

You're clearly trying to stir up fights here. Another attempt and I will report you to a mod.

And think, who's the bigger person here? The Mongolian members who are ignoring flames from you, the oh so heroic belligerent Chinese member who obviously has to come to a Mongolian board and make a poorly worded and poorly typed statement to prove Chinese forte? Is Chinese history not worthy enough to prove to you that China is a strong and historical country that you need to add some ill intentioned and prejudiced rants to prove China's worth?
Cha
QUOTE(Suren911 @ Aug 30 2006, 02:27 AM) [snapback]2233263[/snapback]

Let's not call each other names now. I think it would be a terrible idea for Mongolia to become a part of China. Too much complications and ethnic differences. As much as people like to disagree, Mongolians are VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY different from Han Chinese. Those differences are bound to cause conflicts.

But there are many other minorities in China who are VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY different from the Han Chinese. (I''m not saying Mongolia should be a part of China).
Suren911
^Stating that is not helping the case to ameliorate the problem here. What is your point by stating that? You don't think I know that there are ethnicities in China who are different from Han Chinese? Those people of China are nationally Chinese and have been under the Chinese rule for years now. Mongolian has always been a separate country. It China tried to take over Mongolian then it would be considered as assemilation and violates the pact made by a multinational meeting - the Geneva Convention concerning humanitarian concerns. Citizens of Mongolia will resist with every last bit of strength against the Chinese. Forcing Chinese rule upon Mongolia? Not probable. The person who started this thread is an unthinking, irresponsible fire starter.
Buryadai
Suren911 brava! Your words are sharp to the point. I am impressed biggthumpup.gif
Mid-Night_Sun
QUOTE(Suren911 @ Sep 10 2006, 02:17 AM) [snapback]2277655[/snapback]

Of course, our artifacts such as Genghis Khan's tomb and armors and mummies. His spear with his favorite horse's hairs knitted onto the base of it was kept at a Tibetan temple. Red army raided many temples and stole the Khan's spear. It seems that you're just a Chinese nationalist. I have no problems with nationalists, as I am half Chinese myself, but to make degrading comments without factual proofs really doesn't make Chinese people look good. What are the Mongols' are rightfully the Mongols'. Chinese government will do anything to get those into Chinese museums and that is a fact. Just look at the museums in China.

Of course Yuan Dynasty is Chinese history. It's a Chinese's point of view. But put yourself in a Mongol's shoes. Is it not the Mongols' history as well? A Mongolian dynasty with areas including all of Mongolia, Xinjiang and inland China. But of course, it is commonly known as a part of Chinese history even though the ruler of that dynasty was a Mongolian man.

Mongolia does not have ill intentions towards China. What's been done is done. There is no point of claiming our artifacts back because it was already stolen a long time ago when that part of the world was at a violent political turmoil. But to have some Chinese person come to a Mongolian board and opening up such a thread is disgustingly offensive.

I'll be happy to converse and debate with anyone over any Chinese-Mongolian related subject with an open mind because I am both Chinese and Mongolian. But what this Chinese member did was s/he stepped over the line and took an offense. In addition to this fire, Chinese members have degraded Mongols by belittling Mongolian pride and history. And you, Midnight Sun, with your bowl comment was highly offensive. I cannot take the Chineses' sides on this one. I would defend the Chinese if some Mongolian decided to start saying idiotic crap about Chinese and degrading Chinese history, too. This thread was created to stir up fights and I'm surprised it's still not closed yet.
You're clearly trying to stir up fights here. Another attempt and I will report you to a mod.

And think, who's the bigger person here? The Mongolian members who are ignoring flames from you, the oh so heroic belligerent Chinese member who obviously has to come to a Mongolian board and make a poorly worded and poorly typed statement to prove Chinese forte? Is Chinese history not worthy enough to prove to you that China is a strong and historical country that you need to add some ill intentioned and prejudiced rants to prove China's worth?


k, i replied. but it didnt post up. so i will summarize.

1. you said China should take mongolia if China had the balls. i said if we took yoru artifacts, come and take them unless you guys dont have balls. and somehow IM the one starting the fight.

2. then i said something like, too much info. i dont care what you are or what ever. something about you being half or something.

3. AS to why i am here. i dont care if the thread starter is Chinese or not. im not here for him. i decided to reply because of your balls comment.

4. BOTH sides have legitimate claim to the history. BOTH sides were involved. if one side gets it first, thats too bad. or if you lost w/e. if say...a european country stole them, i agree, they should give it back. but thats because they arent involved.

5. hmm..there was one more thing...AHH yes. mods? please dont make me laugh. i dont know when you joined or what you have read. but this is not the first time ive gotten into "flame wars". i had 67% warning for months. threatening me isnt going to work.

6. wow, China doesnt want mongolia. see, this is were its not even funny anymore, its just stupid. you come off trying to act all mature and w/e the fuk. "oh im half, oh id defend Chinese if it was the other way around blah blah". yah, wow. if China taking mongolia is "sooooo improbable", then why bother replying. you even say this thread is MEANT for flames, and you STILL reply. plz dont try and come off as some goody 2 shoes. doesnt suit you.

and btw, though i already replied earlier to the comment. why are YOU here huh? storming in here talking about Chinas balls. then you go roaring away on some freaking crusade for the good of the forum or mongolia or w/e the fuk you are here for. "defending" something or w/e.

heres the lesson or today, DONT EXPECT TO TALK ABOUT BALLS AND NOT GET A REPLY THAT HAS TO DO WITH BALLS. and when you do, dont go and blame the person who replied for starting a fight. WHICH btw i have no problem with doing. i just didnt do it here.
Suren911
Your troll-like behavior in a Mongolian chat is oh yeah so mature and $hit. Goddamn people like you makes me ashamed to be Chinese.

"WE'RE CHINESE WE PWNZ0RZZ U LOLOLOLZ. ERRBODY WANTS TO BE CHINESE AND U ALL DON'T GOT BALLS LOL."

To Mongolian members:

Not all Chinese people are this embarrassing like Midnight Sun. I swear.
PervertBurger
Inner Mongolian girls with long chop hair and big heads like Suren are pretty cute.
Suren911
Gee whiz people make a lot of comments about my looks on this board. Perhaps it's time for me to take my signature off and put on a picture of an ugly old dude.
PervertBurger
QUOTE(Suren911 @ Sep 14 2006, 09:18 AM) [snapback]2292793[/snapback]

Gee whiz people make a lot of comments about my looks on this board. Perhaps it's time for me to take my signature off and put on a picture of an ugly old dude.


You don't like big heads and pretty long chop hair? Do you wonna fight? Suren.... icon_redface.gif,
Sleepless in UB
As a Mongolian new to your chatroom I am surprised to see how many non Mongolians, with bad English and a lot of spare time are beating their chests to impress other mammals. This is certainly a not Mongolian culture chat room, and I am disappointed to waste my time to get registered here. One observation though, the uneducated guys, still living in darkness such as Midnight Sun (no wonder there is no light from this Sun)could have ventured out in the daylight and see how much Chinese are ridiculed in the developed world. I traveled half of the world, (yes for a barbarian that was not bad) and almost everywhere there were some people, including children who ridiculed me because they thought I were Chinese. I pitied Chinese people then, but maybe because of people like Mr. Midnight-Need-Enightenment-Sun they are inviting the trouble on themselves.
Anda
QUOTE(Sleepless in UB @ Sep 14 2006, 10:10 AM) [snapback]2293234[/snapback]

As a Mongolian new to your chatroom I am surprised to see how many non Mongolians, with bad English and a lot of spare time are beating their chests to impress other mammals. This is certainly a not Mongolian culture chat room, and I am disappointed to waste my time to get registered here.


You are right. Don't waste your time here . But you could occasionally read and reinforce your belief about chinese bad traits. Try to understand why they are like that. These guys are stuck in their mud of bragging and boasting.

Remember also, there are also many good chinese folks out there too.
Mid-Night_Sun
QUOTE(Suren911 @ Sep 14 2006, 08:23 AM) [snapback]2292245[/snapback]

Your troll-like behavior in a Mongolian chat is oh yeah so mature and $hit. Goddamn people like you makes me ashamed to be Chinese.

"WE'RE CHINESE WE PWNZ0RZZ U LOLOLOLZ. ERRBODY WANTS TO BE CHINESE AND U ALL DON'T GOT BALLS LOL."

To Mongolian members:

Not all Chinese people are this embarrassing like Midnight Sun. I swear.


mmhmm. you know, mongolian or not, anyone can see you didnt address a single issue that was brought up. so like...i could reply with a stupid impersonation of you but...i dont really feel like it.

lol and to that dude that registered to post. i find your post cute. mid night this, mid night that. theres nothing special about this name, i dont really care. i just couldnt think of anything else.

though i can say the same about your name "sleepless" right? doesnt that mean you are disoriented and shyt. amazing how you could put together a coherent post. (do you see how lame that sounds? name calling isnt really impressive)
PervertBurger
Mid night if Suren wanted to have sex with you, would you take it?
Mid-Night_Sun
LMAO rediculous.
Suren911
Not in a million years, but back on topic. Mongolia will never become a part of China.
toki
stop talking about midnightsun and please divert back to the topic
FIVB
QUOTE(grandmaster @ Jul 12 2006, 10:10 AM) [snapback]2041622[/snapback]

What do you guys think. Wouldn't it be great for mongols to unite with china and have a better economy? Tell me how you feel about it.



ha ha

I never think that!

But the Greater Mongolian must die because they claim Inner Mongolia!


Is Inner Mongolia parts of Mongolia? Please refers to American case : New Mexico is part of USA not Mexico!
lovelytruth
QUOTE(Suren911 @ Sep 14 2006, 03:44 PM) [snapback]2293823[/snapback]

Not in a million years, but back on topic. Mongolia will never become a part of China.

beerchug.gif kiss.gif biggthumpup.gif yahoo.gif
FIVB
QUOTE(Suren911 @ Sep 15 2006, 04:44 AM) [snapback]2293823[/snapback]

Not in a million years, but back on topic. Mongolia will never become a part of China.



Joking thumbsdown.gif
Suren911
^Denying it is futile.
Flowerseed
yo outer mongolia will have to become part of china if they want inner mongolia.
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