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lovelytruth
Should Mongolia lease some of the land to Japan ?and to make some money?What you think about it ? biggrin.gif
moviez
QUOTE(lovelytruth @ Jul 25 2006, 02:56 AM) *

Should Mongolia lease some of the land to Japan ?and to make some money?What you think about it ? biggrin.gif


Why not ?

Jt (mongolian)
well i think we should icon_wink.gif do this
Alkanaft
Anti-constitutional.
Jt (mongolian)
QUOTE(Alkanaft @ Jul 25 2006, 07:46 PM) *

Anti-constitutional.

whatever dude sure.gif
Bulldogg
Ya i'm with him.

Anti-constitutional.

By leaseing some land to Japan, you might see another Japanese invasion around Asia all over again. Only this time they will have the U.S.A's backing.

Keep Japan where they are at these days on that island & alls will be ok.
flipcombatmedic
QUOTE(Bulldogg @ Jul 28 2006, 10:30 AM) *

Ya i'm with him.

Anti-constitutional.

By leaseing some land to Japan, you might see another Japanese invasion around Asia all over again. Only this time they will have the U.S.A's backing.

Keep Japan where they are at these days on that island & alls will be ok.

WTF? Also Japanese companies already own tons of land around the world...even in the US since the 80's. So where's that Japanese global invasion? some of you guys such alarmist.
Happy Asian
Japanese can't scare anyone so who cares?
Bulldogg
QUOTE(flipcombatmedic @ Jul 28 2006, 01:12 PM) *

WTF? Also Japanese companies already own tons of land around the world...even in the US since the 80's. So where's that Japanese global invasion? some of you guys such alarmist.


So u just told us right here what all makes sense.

Japan own tons of land around the world, even in the U.S.A since the 1980's.

Well makes it more while why U.S.A & Japan are super allys these days don't it?

Down with the hardcore U.S.A & their allys. thumbsdown.gif
lovelytruth
I do not see anything wrong with that.Why should we scare of Japan >?
Bulldogg
^

Because anybody who are friends with the U.S.A like Japan, are currently the enemy.

I personally have no problem them leaseing land to anybody else, just not to the U.S.A or any of their allys in war.
HaoHaoHao
Maybe Mongolia should finish the job they never started.
lovelytruth
In my opinion Mongolian government will do this nearly in the future.
Many people think it is positive to lease some land to Japan.But where exactly ?This is the question.It must be near to border of China.I hope Japan will have their military base there.

Also suggest Mongolia should have America's military base in Mongolian territory !!!

QUOTE(HaoHaoHao @ Jul 30 2006, 10:50 AM) *

Maybe Mongolia should finish the job they never started.

Is that Chinese proverb ? biggrin.gif



Might sometimes sounds logical for you
HaoHaoHao
So if Japan went to war against China, Mongolia would side with Japan and not their fellow southern brothers?
Airagyy
QUOTE(lovelytruth @ Jul 25 2006, 01:56 AM) *

Should Mongolia lease some of the land to Japan ?and to make some money?What you think about it ? biggrin.gif


I think, one thing we should remember. Around 70 years ago our grandfathers fought war with Japanese and have fallen in the frontline. What they'll say, if we are selling the land who they fougth for it.
華夏無產
QUOTE(Airagyy @ Jul 30 2006, 07:15 PM) *

I think, one thing we should remember. Around 70 years ago our grandfathers fought war with Japanese and have fallen in the frontline. What they'll say, if we are selling the land who they fougth for it.

Money can never buy one nation's dignity.
Debts of blood can only be payed in blood.
Alkanaft
Independence and sovereignty are ideas that work only to the extent of our power. Even though Mongolia tends to be a free-spirited nation, a lot of its internal decisions are influenced by foreign policy. It’s not as simple as two businesses signing a lease agreement, let alone the question if Japan wants to lease. What will they do with a piece of land in Gobi? Figure out where the water and build the biggest wilderness theme park in the world? I doubt it.
lovelytruth
QUOTE(Alkanaft @ Jul 30 2006, 09:24 PM) *

Independence and sovereignty are ideas that work only to the extent of our power. Even though Mongolia tends to be a free-spirited nation, a lot of its internal decisions are influenced by foreign policy. It’s not as simple as two businesses signing a lease agreement, let alone the question if Japan wants to lease. What will they do with a piece of land in Gobi? Figure out where the water and build the biggest wilderness theme park in the world? I doubt it.


GOBI IS RICH

Hey do not forget GOBI is not the desert.Gobi has many kind of natural resources copper golod coal etc...
You can just google and write <<OYUTOLGOI>> you will find out what i mean!!!Mongolian future depends on the GOBI haha somehow it,s true biggrin.gif


QUOTE(Airagyy @ Jul 30 2006, 07:15 PM) *

I think, one thing we should remember. Around 70 years ago our grandfathers fought war with Japanese and have fallen in the frontline. What they'll say, if we are selling the land who they fougth for it.

Time has changed a lot.Don't turn always back see your bright future !!!
Alkanaft
QUOTE(lovelytruth @ Jul 31 2006, 11:57 AM) *

GOBI IS RICH



So we keep it.
lovelytruth
Oh Yeah The Gobi
Son of A Sun
QUOTE(lovelytruth @ Jul 25 2006, 01:56 AM) *

Should Mongolia lease some of the land to Japan ?and to make some money?What you think about it ? biggrin.gif

give some then they will pay biggthumpup.gif
lovelytruth
ok let.s see lol
Buryadai
QUOTE(lovelytruth @ Oct 7 2006, 03:27 AM) *

ok let.s see lol


I think it is no good idea. Land is essential to existence of a sovereign statehood. If you do not control it you are not sovereign. Even if Japanese or any other Mr pay money for lease of land in Mongolia it would cause resentment of the neighbors and may damage state image on the international scene.
One can do business sharing products out of mining or other industry, BUT planting foreign population is unbearable.
Suren911
Most likely a bad idea. That means Mongolia would lose a part of its land to a foreign population.
islander
If things don't go well then don't renew there lease. Anyway, found this:
QUOTE
While the sovereign rights are not clearly defined and while the Chinese and Soviet Governments are engaging their attention elsewhere, it is our opportunity to build our influence. Once we have purchased most of the land there, there will be no room for dispute as to whether Mongolia belongs to the Japanese or the Mongolians. Aided by our military prowess, we shall realize our positive policy. In order to carry out this plan, we should appropriate Yen 1,000,000 from the secret funds of the Army Department's budget so that four hundred retired officers disguised as teachers and Chinese citizens may be sent into Outer and Inner Mongolia to mix with the people, to gain the confidence of the Mongolian princes, to acquire from them rights for pasturage and mining and to lay the foundation of our national interests for the next hundred years.


Seems Japan once had a secret plan to take over Mongolia in order to take China.

Got above quote and the whole article from: http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/tanaka.html
Buryadai
Just recall Mado of the Huns' saying: 'no one shall threathen us to give the smallest and even useless part of our homeland. One who does shall be destroyed'.

I agree with him. Land is sacred and our last refuge. Keep it integral till it contains the last Mongol golomt.
lovelytruth
it is not about give "Just to give "It is about leasing
Alkanaft
See that doesn't make sense. Japanese firms would have come in and establish plants if they wanted to. The fact that they're not in right now means they have better alternatives. Even if you "lease" to free them from tax duties, there are customs at Russian and Chinese borders - these will by the way not be very happy with foreign presence in Mongolia. Mongolia is independent because the neighbors like the stable buffer zone. Even more, once the land is "leased" there's no guarantee that it will be returned in a wishful manner because no one enforces international law. I don't understand what some people are talking about here. It's straight up madness. What happened to national security and sovereign rights???

Instead of this, we should be thinking about a way to display ourselves as politically neutral as possible and get private investment that carries as little political significance as possible. Something like Switzerland...
lovelytruth
ok calm down
just.lolo
it's true that japan has the latest technology and animates...etc
but i still kinda depise japan....
P.S: errrrr...get so pissed whenever ppl say that they think i look like a japanese as if i got plastic surgery or mongolians don't look that great or somethin

Suren911
QUOTE(just.lolo @ Dec 3 2006, 06:11 PM) *
mongolians don't look that great or somethin

Well that's all bull$hit. Cause MONGOLIANS ARE HOT. THEM HATERS JUST CAN'T APPRECIATE.
bigmonkey2382
Japan is the most overrated country in the world, including the US and England.
Airagyy
QUOTE(islander @ Oct 10 2006, 09:40 PM) *

If things don't go well then don't renew there lease. Anyway, found this:
Seems Japan once had a secret plan to take over Mongolia in order to take China.

Got above quote and the whole article from: http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/tanaka.html


Mister Tanaka's plan is interesting. If he composed this alone he might spend at least half of his life. lol

This plan is toooo much tooo big to fillful. Poor Japanese nation...
just.lolo
Talktohand.gif c'mon, they've not seen much of the world around them at all cuz they r just 2 deadly sealed up in their so-called little country...
mongoljin
Reminds me one thing. Russia leased(sold?) Alaska to USA, after 2 weeks they found oil in Alaska. To be free, independent is key to healthy growth & society. It's more tasty if we can build our country with our hand. In the end we'll not own anything to anyone.
Ino_II
cartoons aernt a good enough reason
DeepForest
QUOTE(mongoljin @ Dec 4 2006, 08:25 AM) *

Reminds me one thing. Russia leased(sold?) Alaska to USA, after 2 weeks they found oil in Alaska. To be free, independent is key to healthy growth & society. It's more tasty if we can build our country with our hand. In the end we'll not own anything to anyone.

beerchug.gif
just.lolo
would japan lease land 2 us ever?
Suren911
^Honey, we weren't ever going to ASK them to lease. More like just take Japan over but natural disaster and crappy ships fu-ked us over.
just.lolo
QUOTE(Suren911 @ Dec 5 2006, 05:55 PM) *

^Honey, we weren't ever going to ASK them to lease. More like just take Japan over but natural disaster and crappy ships fu-ked us over.


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif LOL
their country is fallin apart anyways... soon they'll have 2 either turn 2 us or china or even korea 4 land
Subotai
No, homelands should be under Mongolian control, no point prostituting ourselves to a foreign nation selling the land we own. We'll become an economic power our own way. But that's just my opinion.
BlueAway
QUOTE(lovelytruth @ Jul 31 2006, 11:53 PM) *

Oh Yeah The Gobi


Lol, its funny how the word Gobi is used here. Cause in chinese, it sounds like a swear word. laugh.gif
Konji
No. They tried to do that to korea in the end of the 19th century remember? They pretended to have a peace but they wanted to take over their land.
etzel
can you guys read this?

http://www.manchukuo.org/
Erdene
Lease it for what purpose??? Dump nuclear waste??? NO

Build factories to produce the latest electronic goods or something on those lines.....then of course YES
bigmonkey2382
I wouldn't trust them to do anything that would be benificial to the Mongolians, beneficial to themselves? Yes.
SagaciousLuDa
sounds like a good plan, Japanese can bring technology to help the poor people.
master_fx
the point is even if Mongolia wants to lease their land but how are these Japaneses or USA military troops suppose to come into mongolia when both china and russia closed off all their borders along monoglia?
halhmongol
No land is gonna be leased to no one...
$ R u a government guy, who gives u the right to represent the Russians or all the chinese here. Talk only 4 yourself.
QUOTE(master_fx @ Nov 10 2007, 08:46 PM) *
the point is even if Mongolia wants to lease their land but how are these Japaneses or USA military troops suppose to come into mongolia when both china and russia closed off all their borders along monoglia?

UrbanCultureParanoia
Japan comes to Mongolia ?
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