Trying to be a spy on our powerful neighbor. First, wow!!! That's China? No difference from any other developed country, even better.

Second, I wonder if anyone here has similar shots of skyscrapercities and recent tall-building constructions in VN. If you do, please share.

Thx.

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http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=83072

here's the picture of TPHCM seen from the air ... Alas ! Nothing but houses

I think it is better to leave it to the skyscrapercity forum. Link to them herer:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay...amp;forumid=588

Wow, great website. Thanks for sharing TrashCleaner!

A stupid joke by me a Vietnamese.

^Next time VietNam will win again, no one can harm us.

Hey Byron, be optimistic! After years of war destructions and conflicts, I have a feeling that Vietnamese finally come to realize how important it is to avoid wars. Vietnamese are the experts who can really tell the curious what wars really do to their country.

Look like slum

Man, I seriously wish every slum in VN turned into world-class, modern complex like Saigon South (Phu My Hung).

It seems like we have many of looking & sound-good skyscrapercity plans over the years, but then only a few actually get implemented

and now look at India. You're sure Vietnam wants to be "democratic"?

How many major wars did Vietnam fight in her whole existence?

I dunno, but Vietnamese have been fighting constantly throughout history. In fact, I believe Western Scholars say Vietnam is called the "Prussia of the East" because like Germany in Europe, Vietnam is one of the most fought battlegrounds in asia.

IN HA NOI:




Hanoi Golden Lotus Tower Project

street development in VN

That is one hell of a building.

VietNam (Dai Viet) had fought off China, Mongolia, France and America. In between battles were fought with Cambodia, Laos, Burma and thailand.

also champa.

Not to mention 2 naval battles against the Dutch and Portugese in the 17th century

I know we are good at fightings, but can we provide basic necessities to Vietnamese people like clean water and safe roads.

When I was visiting Vietnam, there was this stinking smell from the sewage and trash is everywhere.

when did we fought with burma and thailand?????

oh and anyway ... i don't care much for skyscapers ... i think VN SHOULD NOT try to copy other countries and waste money to build skyscrapers ..... i think those money should be used to upgrade the living standards of viet people ...... skyscrapers are useless IMO ....... i think vn should build traditional viet houses with a modern twist to it ...... i don't understand y asians are so hung up with skyscapers .... having skyscapers does not mean that country is modernize .....

Click the link in my signature "General Nguyen Hue" for Thailand;)

I agree. Skyscraper is a consumer good; it's not an investment for long-term benefit.

i disagree. having skyscrapers is a sign of modernization. look at most rich countries, all of them have skyscrapers. and look at the countries in Africa.

Israel and Europe would be third-world country then.

i am pretty sure Europe and Israel have skyscrapers. that i am 100% sure!!! may be not as tall as US buildings, but they are tall enough to be called sky-buildings.

what about N korea???




they have skyscrapers and yet there are millions of starving people

sourcehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/gallery/image/0,...4562633,00.html


oh and also there ARE skyscrapers in AFRica

south africa


Nairobi, Kenya

alright tav. u got me.

Just because
Cộng Hoà Nông Dân TQ have tall bulidings , VN wants to have them also .

Skyscrapers make good coporate headquarters because of hierarchical vertical communication between the different departments.

Sending a message or box to another department somewhere in the skyscraper is much easier than walking or driving to another building to do it.

Nairobi was actually one of the most advanced city in Africa, while South africa IS the most advanced city in Africa running by white people

VN need skyscrapers simply because we dont have enough land. High-rise buildings are inevitable. Some of the reasons i think are:

For a certain m^2 of office space, building high-rise buildings would:

- Cost less materials, labours and time to build.
- Take up less land, this is important for a densely populated countries like Vietnam.
- More efficient flow of resource and information if companies that are complementary are close to one another.
- Cost less to build a supporting network of infrastructure such as metro rail, roads, bus and ports.
- It takes less time and it is easier to find information from, or to deliver resources to a group of similar companies that are close to each others.
...and many more advantages.

Things develop like they are for a reason. Europe has more low-rise buildings, more old sandstone buildings because they were built before the industrial revolution, when people didnt do the economic comparison calculation like we do todays. They have less alternatives at that time and they collected much resources from their colonies to finance those constructions.

For example: to build a good-looking sandstone cathedrals (or a traditional east asian temples), you would need:
- Costly architectural plan from specialists because the standard architectural firms today are not able to design them.
- Sandstone that are worked and crafted individually by stone workers. This takes much time and effort and cost much more than ordering a standard steel beam size or brick.
- Constructions are more difficult because the structures could easily breaks due to the greater risk in using a natural, non-manufactured materials. There were less tests and studies done on these structures.
- The structure can easily be destroyed under small earthquakes or impact loads in comparison to a properly-designed high-rise building.

What Vietnam could do is to build those high-rise buildings in an appropriate place and preserve important architectural pieces that we already have. When we have more money, we can do better things later.

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About the Hanoi Golden Lotus Tower Project, has construction gone under way of the tower yet? If so, when is it projected to be completed. The website that hosts the tower images, http://www.stephenodell.com, doesn't provide any information. It just seems like the site owner, an architecture, just made a design and posted it up on the website. I tried looking up the golden lotus tower but came up with no results. So is the tower going to be built? Planned to be built at all? Just curious.

You might have your answers if you post your question at this site:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay...amp;forumid=588

are the streets even fricken paved

yes they are.

I think they only look so bad from skyview but from streetview, its not really that bad.