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Yesterday ST reported KL's BIG PLANS for Johore Bahru billions of ringgits billions of ideas - They also want to be Mother HUbbard country - Mother of all HUBS with Medical and Health Hub toursit Hub etc etcetc
YOU think it' will work?
I think they must first remove their """CRIME HUB REALITY""" first for anything to even start to work!I fthey ar enot going to be serious about crime and crimmals in the State nothing will work!
From: DARK2006 3-Aug 22:43
To: chorut 2 of 38
The new PM of Malaysia,AAB advised by his Oxford educated son-in -law,AK, has formulated a new national strategy.
Instead of following ex-PM TDM's strategy,to be world calss in IT-MSC(multi-medium-super-corridor),Bio-technology,(Kalang valley),World class auto-maker(Proton),they have decided it is both cheaper and more feasible to steal business from its rich neighbour-our red dot motherland.
TDM had but a dream,I personally rate his chances of success in world class IT,Bio-tech,Auto industries as a very big ZERO.
But AAB is a little more clever,depending on his executation,his chances would be higher than 60%,no miracle here,just build,offer cheap and lure,not unlike Port Palepas or the China Industrial Zone set up next to our own Suzhou Industrial Park.
Both are very successful,Port Pelapas took away Maesk and EverGreen,the China set up of course ended up as the majority owner of our own Suzhou Industrial Park.
Remember???
From: Thanksmum 3-Aug 22:47
To: chorut 3 of 38
YOU think it' will work?>
Frankly my friend, many of my friends who are inside businesses world in Singapore and Malaysia says Malaysia will beat Singapore big time on this.
Not only that, many of my friends who are educated in the top universities in the world, from world's number 1 Harvard University to UK's best Cambridge and Oxford Universities, have reiterated the same stance.
It really looks like Singapore is fu-ked, although I may not be happy with this. I guess this is life. Singapore's future indeed looks bleak. PTP and Airasia have both inflicted measureable damage on our economy and they want to do that for others.
I know why Abdullah want to expand Johor first. He knows that Singapore will have two IRs. He knows that Singapore 's tourism will improve. He want to snatch these tourists over since JB has the best benefit, that is cheap cost of entertainment.
Singapore should be gone by 2025, I am afraid to say.
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From: Thanksmum 3-Aug 22:48
To: DARK2006 4 of 38
113473.4 in reply to 113473.2
Both are very successful,Port Pelapas took away Maesk and EverGreen,the China set up of course ended up as the majority owner of our own Suzhou Industrial Park.
Remember???
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I agree. The Malaysians have done it for PTP and Asiaair. Both seaports and airports are traditionally Singapore 's fortress and Malaysia has beaten Singapore hands down.
The Malaysians have done it before and now, Abdullah wants to replicate the action again in Bandar Nusajaya.
From: DARK2006 3-Aug 22:54
To: Thanksmum 5 of 38
Oh,Yes ThanksMum,Thanksyou
I forget about Air Asia,a tremendous success story.
That brings me back to my point about Minister Raymond Lim golden's rule of business.
ANY BUSINESS THAT IS LISTED IN YELLOW BOOK,THE GLC,TLC SHOULD GET OUT.
Of course that was before they gave him S$ 2million a year,and then he threw it out of window immediately.
When Chin Beng,former CEO of SIA went about setting up our own budget airline,I laughed,and knew that it would sure die.
It died!!!
And me a very lousy small business-man.
From: chorut 3-Aug 22:55
To: ALL 6 of 38
I tend to differ in opinion cost is not always the most important factor when wooing international globe trotters -not back packers hor!
So if i am a monied tourists i want to have my entertainment and fun but in a SAFE environment I don't need to have drug addicts loitering around town and snatching my wallet and bags with a springe pointed at me or my car being stolen every few minutes....ANother thing - I care not for the dirt and the rubbish and the smelly canal ......
And the taxi's level of hyiene is terrible you can just compare sitting in a taxi here and there- of course our taxi's cost a bomb lah!
I also don't like their wet toilets because they wash their backside $hit with a tap and hose and all the $hit and $hit water is washed onto the floor of the toilet even in hotels and shopping centre...I means these are some of the practises that irks the international visitors.....
From: DARK2006 3-Aug 23:03
To: Thanksmum 7 of 38
"Singapore should be gone by 2025, I am afraid to say."
No,I am afraid that I do not agree.
I would agree so if our PAP leaders carry on with their present policies.
But we are now into 21st century,it is a very dynamic world.
And PAP leaders are known to be dynamic changers,by that I mean they can change their policies very fast,real fast.
I do see opportunities around us.and I contribute a little bit here and there with my limited knowledge and even smalller bit of wisdom.
Full Version: KL's big Plans for JOHORE-billions!
Very intersting, while sadly many disillusioned Malaysians and ex-Malaysians predict Malaysia is doomed by next year and the year after that and heap praises on Singapore(while mocking Malaysia) , some Singaporeans do give attention to the Malaysian threat...but I dun think Malaysia wants to ruin S'pore, the gahmen want to take advantage of Singapore's development and it's role as an international hub for tourism and trade. It's been long that S'pore used Malaysia as a hinterland, now Malaysia's our turn to use Singapore as a hinterland.
Its good actually. Its high time southern Johore gets noticed by Federal Govt.
Besides, we want to compete with Spore, since they compete with us. This is laissez faire honey, where fair trade never fair at all!
Besides, we want to compete with Spore, since they compete with us. This is laissez faire honey, where fair trade never fair at all!
I have some reservations about the plan. It all boils down to the Hong Kong-Shenzen analogy. An article from Sin Chew Jot Poh.
Come what may, JB and Singapore will continue to play a role in each other's developments. I bet my S'pore aunts have booked their baju Raya with their tailors in JB.
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Can Johor Bahru Become The "HK of Malaysia"?
Updated:2006-08-06 09:00:00 MYT
Several months ago, residents of Johor Baru were delighted by news that a Disneyland would be built in their area. However, a string of denials soon proved that it was nothing more than a rumour. Now our government’s plans for establishing a Southern Johor Economic Region (SJER) have given them something else to be enthusiastic about, though they have reservations that this new development project might also eventually come to nothing.
Our government has committed RM15 billion to this project. If it succeeds, Southern Johor will be revitalised and a million new jobs will be created. It will be a model for economic development in Malaysia.
This is an extremely ambitious undertaking that covers an area 3 times the size of Singapore. Naturally, the people of Johor would welcome any project that proposes to build a larger and more beautiful city in their state, however, past disappointments have made them wary about counting their chickens before they have hatched.
Let's be realistic. Even though Johor Baru has been labelled as a metropolis, it's really just a small city with barely a million citizens. Aside from land mass, Johor hasn't got anything good that Singapore doesn't have more of, including talent, resources, and economic power. It even has more in-depth and far-reaching administrative strategies, not to mention a more efficient administrative system. In almost every way that counts, Johor is no match for Singapore.
Singapore can be expected to play a part in deciding whether the SJER development project succeeds. Johor Mentri Besar Datuk Abdul Ghani Othman has said that the relationship between Johor Baru and Singapore is similar to the relationship between Shenzhen and Hong Kong.
It's true that there are many similarities between the two cases. However, it should be noted that most of the similarities are geographical. A major difference between the two is the fact that, while Hong Kong and Shenzhen are both a part of China, Johor Baru and Singapore belong to two different countries. Under the supervision of the Chinese central government, Hong Kong and Shenzhen worked together on matters of economic development. Both had worked to set in place a cooperative and mutually beneficial infrastructure. The same cannot be said for Johor-Singapore relations.
Even so, relations between Johor and Singapore are quite special and close, arising from historical, traditional and familial ties. During the era of British colonialism, the relationship between the two was especially warm. When reviewing their history, you will find that many of the Chinese pioneers in Singapore also took an active part in the development of Johor. At the time, it was common for people from Johor to study in Singapore, while Singaporeans would go to Johor to start or expand their businesses. The situation only changed in 1965, when Singapore gained its independence.
Regrettably, ever since then, politics have troubled relations between them. For the past few decades the relationship between our two nations has been defined by constant squabbling and nary a day’s peace. In addition, a staggering developmental gap has appeared between Singapore and Johor. While Singapore has progressed in huge leaps and bounds to become one of the four Asian dragons, we have made slow progress and have been left far behind.
Though the success SJER development project will depend largely on our own efforts, there are many things that we could learn from Singapore’s success. We should pay special attention to her law enforcement system, her team spirit and her highly efficient administrative apparatus, all of which are worth studying. The government should give serious thought on how to change the current perception of Singapore as "a neighbour that is difficult to get along with."
Frankly, the people of Johor don't dare to hold high hopes for the SJER project. Neither are they hoping for a landmark that is taller than the twin towers. What they are praying for is better law enforcement that would allow them to feel safe and secure once more. It will also give foreign investors the confidence to invest in the area.
Another challenge for the SJER project is how to nurture and attract talent to raise our competitiveness. Not only do we need first class facilities, but we must also have a first class administrative apparatus and much more creative schemes. In this aspect, the government must have the intelligence to slip free of the confines of narrowminded racism; as well as the courage to free the economy from manipulation by politics and people with a privileged background. Only by doing so can we have a more open, fair, just and transparent situation.
We truly hope that the SJER project will not eventually come to nothing! (Lim Mun Fah/Sin Chew Daily)
Updated:2006-08-06 09:00:00 MYT
Several months ago, residents of Johor Baru were delighted by news that a Disneyland would be built in their area. However, a string of denials soon proved that it was nothing more than a rumour. Now our government’s plans for establishing a Southern Johor Economic Region (SJER) have given them something else to be enthusiastic about, though they have reservations that this new development project might also eventually come to nothing.
Our government has committed RM15 billion to this project. If it succeeds, Southern Johor will be revitalised and a million new jobs will be created. It will be a model for economic development in Malaysia.
This is an extremely ambitious undertaking that covers an area 3 times the size of Singapore. Naturally, the people of Johor would welcome any project that proposes to build a larger and more beautiful city in their state, however, past disappointments have made them wary about counting their chickens before they have hatched.
Let's be realistic. Even though Johor Baru has been labelled as a metropolis, it's really just a small city with barely a million citizens. Aside from land mass, Johor hasn't got anything good that Singapore doesn't have more of, including talent, resources, and economic power. It even has more in-depth and far-reaching administrative strategies, not to mention a more efficient administrative system. In almost every way that counts, Johor is no match for Singapore.
Singapore can be expected to play a part in deciding whether the SJER development project succeeds. Johor Mentri Besar Datuk Abdul Ghani Othman has said that the relationship between Johor Baru and Singapore is similar to the relationship between Shenzhen and Hong Kong.
It's true that there are many similarities between the two cases. However, it should be noted that most of the similarities are geographical. A major difference between the two is the fact that, while Hong Kong and Shenzhen are both a part of China, Johor Baru and Singapore belong to two different countries. Under the supervision of the Chinese central government, Hong Kong and Shenzhen worked together on matters of economic development. Both had worked to set in place a cooperative and mutually beneficial infrastructure. The same cannot be said for Johor-Singapore relations.
Even so, relations between Johor and Singapore are quite special and close, arising from historical, traditional and familial ties. During the era of British colonialism, the relationship between the two was especially warm. When reviewing their history, you will find that many of the Chinese pioneers in Singapore also took an active part in the development of Johor. At the time, it was common for people from Johor to study in Singapore, while Singaporeans would go to Johor to start or expand their businesses. The situation only changed in 1965, when Singapore gained its independence.
Regrettably, ever since then, politics have troubled relations between them. For the past few decades the relationship between our two nations has been defined by constant squabbling and nary a day’s peace. In addition, a staggering developmental gap has appeared between Singapore and Johor. While Singapore has progressed in huge leaps and bounds to become one of the four Asian dragons, we have made slow progress and have been left far behind.
Though the success SJER development project will depend largely on our own efforts, there are many things that we could learn from Singapore’s success. We should pay special attention to her law enforcement system, her team spirit and her highly efficient administrative apparatus, all of which are worth studying. The government should give serious thought on how to change the current perception of Singapore as "a neighbour that is difficult to get along with."
Frankly, the people of Johor don't dare to hold high hopes for the SJER project. Neither are they hoping for a landmark that is taller than the twin towers. What they are praying for is better law enforcement that would allow them to feel safe and secure once more. It will also give foreign investors the confidence to invest in the area.
Another challenge for the SJER project is how to nurture and attract talent to raise our competitiveness. Not only do we need first class facilities, but we must also have a first class administrative apparatus and much more creative schemes. In this aspect, the government must have the intelligence to slip free of the confines of narrowminded racism; as well as the courage to free the economy from manipulation by politics and people with a privileged background. Only by doing so can we have a more open, fair, just and transparent situation.
We truly hope that the SJER project will not eventually come to nothing! (Lim Mun Fah/Sin Chew Daily)
Come what may, JB and Singapore will continue to play a role in each other's developments. I bet my S'pore aunts have booked their baju Raya with their tailors in JB.
yeah correct abang......I always go servicing there....nice petrol pump.....instead of pour in...they suck you up....nice boy
SJER if completed & accomplished, would be the next mega-project that actually contribute to MY economy.
A developed Southern Johore makes Johore as most prosperous & even politically stabil neighbor to Singapore.
Especially with million job opportunities abounds, perhaps enough to cater to Malaysian grads & Singaporean expats alike.
SJER will benefitted both Johore & Singapore within medium run.
A developed Southern Johore makes Johore as most prosperous & even politically stabil neighbor to Singapore.
Especially with million job opportunities abounds, perhaps enough to cater to Malaysian grads & Singaporean expats alike.
SJER will benefitted both Johore & Singapore within medium run.
One of the big mega projects?
Monorail 80% foreign-funded
BY NELSON BENJAMIN
TheStar
JOHOR BARU: A Dubai-based investor is among several potential foreign investors expected to finance 80% of the RM1.3bil Johor monorail project which is set to begin operations within the next three years.
The balance will be sourced from the shareholders of Johor-based Jalur Mudra Sdn Bhd, a special purpose vehicle created to build and operate the monorail under the private financing initiative of the Ninth Malaysia Plan.
The 80% is expected to be raised through the issuance of hybrid private debt securities bonds, which will have a 20-year maturity period.
A model of the train from China. The Maglev trains for
the Johor monorail project will be based on this model
It is learnt that the foreign investors gave their undertaking to participate in the project about two months ago.
Jalur Mudra has since engaged a consultant to advise on corporate matters, especially on the bond issuance.
Chairman Datuk Mohd Rashidi Mohd Noor, who declined to name the investors, said in a press briefing that the company had sufficient funds for the first phase of the project – a 12.5km elevated line along Jalan Tebrau.
“We anticipate return on investment in about 10 years,” he said, adding that this was relatively good for an investment in a railway system.
Similar to the KL monorail project where all the structures are elevated, the project will have eight stations between Johor Sentral, located next to the causeway, and Aeon Jusco near the Pandan Hospital.
“This project will be a catalyst to promote growth along the Tebrau corridor through the appreciation of real estate,” Rashidi said, adding that the monorail project was part of the Johor Baru Masterplan, which included plans for three light rail transit systems, two mass railway transit systems and a monorail.
Rashidi said the monorail project was a local initiative and would include a maximum 30% participation by the state government through Yayasan Pelajaran Johor (YPJ) or Johor Baru City Council (MBJB).
“It is still not finalised whether it’s going to be YPJ or MBJB.
“Although the state has a stake in the project, it may not have to fork out any money,” he said, adding that they hoped to finalise details, including soil tests and environmental impact assessment soon.
Rashidi said under the agreement with Beijing Enterprise Holdings, a Chinese government subsidiary which funded a 10-year test by China’s National Defence University on magnetic levitation (Maglev) technology, Jalur Mudra had exclusive rights to develop and pattern both the urban and high-speed Maglev trains.
“This means we can also bid for the bullet train project linking Singapore and Kuala Lumpur as our trains can easily touch 500km per hour,” he said, adding that all it needed was to build the elevated glideways or rail on the divider along the North-South Highway.
Rashidi also said Jalur Mudra’s proposal would cost about RM100mil for each kilometre, which would be much cheaper than other rail projects.
Asked why the relatively new technology was used instead of other systems from Germany or Japan which had a proven track record, he said cost was an important factor.
“Anyway, this technology was created by China’s National Defence University for the government and military based on almost 10 years of trials.
“They have just started commercialising the technology and we managed to acquire it at an attractive price,” he said, adding that quality would be assured, as the Chinese would be held responsible for any failure.
Rashidi said although Johor Baru would be the first city in South-East Asia to use this technology, Maglev trains were already operational in Shanghai for the past three years.
Jalur Mudra expects the Johor monorail to ferry some 98,000 passengers daily with tickets priced between RM1.50 and RM2.60 for the 13-minute ride between Johor Sentral and Aeon Jusco.
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Monorail 80% foreign-funded
BY NELSON BENJAMIN
TheStar
JOHOR BARU: A Dubai-based investor is among several potential foreign investors expected to finance 80% of the RM1.3bil Johor monorail project which is set to begin operations within the next three years.
The balance will be sourced from the shareholders of Johor-based Jalur Mudra Sdn Bhd, a special purpose vehicle created to build and operate the monorail under the private financing initiative of the Ninth Malaysia Plan.
The 80% is expected to be raised through the issuance of hybrid private debt securities bonds, which will have a 20-year maturity period.
A model of the train from China. The Maglev trains for
the Johor monorail project will be based on this model
It is learnt that the foreign investors gave their undertaking to participate in the project about two months ago.
Jalur Mudra has since engaged a consultant to advise on corporate matters, especially on the bond issuance.
Chairman Datuk Mohd Rashidi Mohd Noor, who declined to name the investors, said in a press briefing that the company had sufficient funds for the first phase of the project – a 12.5km elevated line along Jalan Tebrau.
“We anticipate return on investment in about 10 years,” he said, adding that this was relatively good for an investment in a railway system.
Similar to the KL monorail project where all the structures are elevated, the project will have eight stations between Johor Sentral, located next to the causeway, and Aeon Jusco near the Pandan Hospital.
“This project will be a catalyst to promote growth along the Tebrau corridor through the appreciation of real estate,” Rashidi said, adding that the monorail project was part of the Johor Baru Masterplan, which included plans for three light rail transit systems, two mass railway transit systems and a monorail.
Rashidi said the monorail project was a local initiative and would include a maximum 30% participation by the state government through Yayasan Pelajaran Johor (YPJ) or Johor Baru City Council (MBJB).
“It is still not finalised whether it’s going to be YPJ or MBJB.
“Although the state has a stake in the project, it may not have to fork out any money,” he said, adding that they hoped to finalise details, including soil tests and environmental impact assessment soon.
Rashidi said under the agreement with Beijing Enterprise Holdings, a Chinese government subsidiary which funded a 10-year test by China’s National Defence University on magnetic levitation (Maglev) technology, Jalur Mudra had exclusive rights to develop and pattern both the urban and high-speed Maglev trains.
“This means we can also bid for the bullet train project linking Singapore and Kuala Lumpur as our trains can easily touch 500km per hour,” he said, adding that all it needed was to build the elevated glideways or rail on the divider along the North-South Highway.
Rashidi also said Jalur Mudra’s proposal would cost about RM100mil for each kilometre, which would be much cheaper than other rail projects.
Asked why the relatively new technology was used instead of other systems from Germany or Japan which had a proven track record, he said cost was an important factor.
“Anyway, this technology was created by China’s National Defence University for the government and military based on almost 10 years of trials.
“They have just started commercialising the technology and we managed to acquire it at an attractive price,” he said, adding that quality would be assured, as the Chinese would be held responsible for any failure.
Rashidi said although Johor Baru would be the first city in South-East Asia to use this technology, Maglev trains were already operational in Shanghai for the past three years.
Jalur Mudra expects the Johor monorail to ferry some 98,000 passengers daily with tickets priced between RM1.50 and RM2.60 for the 13-minute ride between Johor Sentral and Aeon Jusco.
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Are they gonna use Japanese Fastech Train? How I wish.. 
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Are they gonna use Japanese Fastech Train? How I wish..
its juz a monorail for the jblites...I dun think its the japanese train thing...
I read in todays papers in singapore that previously under mahathir's administration, YTL did mooted the idea for a bullet train service from KL to Singapore but apparently, it was turn down on the pretext that there is no load factor to merit such service. Come to think of it, yeah man.,....while bullet train is a great idea but do we have the load capasity to warrant such service. Is there a real need for singaporean as well as malaysian to travel back and forth..on a weekend may be but on daily thing...is there a need. while these service could bolster tourism and inculcate more people to travel between both countries, do you think it will work out? There is a vast difference of currency exchange and the sentiment between each country also does not look good. Therefore, I kinda agree with mahathir that a bullet train is not such a good idea
what both countries should do is that liberalise the air sector btwn KL and Singapore now monopolised by SQ & MAS and allow budget airlines and other airlines to join the bandwagon. If there is a success in the load factor juz like we see for BKK route then i think the bullet train service shall be a great and noval idea.
Juz my 2 cents worth.
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