Does anyone have pictures/articles of the Filipino Armed Forces I have never seen many pictures or much infomation....anyone? im interested in seeing the current state of the Military.

There is a thread on that already, although someone more knowledgable about this forum might be better equipped to point you to the right thread.

go to this site: www.timawa.net

it has pictures of the Philippine military, there's more pictures in the forum.

There seem to be less military nuts in this forum. Can anyone post the link to Philippine military thread in this forum, I want to post some pictures. Thanks.

^ Philippines' defense industry?

Thai and Filipino Soldiers

Thanks for the help. But I am thinking of posting those photos in this thread itself. This thread has an appropriate name.

Soldiers stand guard to welcome Defence Secretary, Gilberto Teodoro (L) in Jolo island, southern Philippines, February 9, 2008. (Reuters Pictures)

Philippine defense secretary scraps US$29.3 million proposed US helicopter deal

The Associated Press
Last Updated: January 25, 2008 23:20:06

MANILA, Philippines (AP) - The Philippine Department of National Defense scrapped a proposed 12 billion peso (US$29.3 million, €20 million) deal for six attack helicopters after accusing a local agent of a U.S. manufacturer of altering its bid, an official said Friday.

Defense Secretary Gilberto Teodoro rejected a proposal by Asian Aerospace Corp. - a representative of the U.S. aircraft manufacturer McDonell Douglas - after a fact-finding committee found "unauthorized alterations of the technical specifications" for six night-capable attack helicopters, Defense Undersecretary Ariston delos Reyes said.

Asian Aaerospace's proposal for the six MD-530F helicopters did not meet the military's requirements, including a 1,360 kilogram (3,000 pound) payload capacity, delos Reyes said.

The investigation was launched after complaints by two companies - Swidnik of Poland and Augusta-Westland of Italy - which were both disqualified from bidding partly because of their inability to deliver the helicopters within 12 months, said delos Reyes, who headed the committee.

Delos Reyes also said Asian Aaerospace's estimate was "excessive and disadvantageous." He said the quoted price for the six helicopters was twice as much as an earlier estimate by the company for 12 of the same aircraft.

Asian Aerospace President Peter Rodriguez denied the accusations and said he will challenge the decision.

"We did not bid in bad faith," said Rodriguez, adding the company "did not have a hand in any alteration of the bid."

He said Asian Aerospace earlier informed the Defense Department that the MD-530F did not have a 1,360-kilogram payload capacity. Rodriguez added the earlier estimate for the 12 helicopters was based on a civilian version, not a military one.

Teodoro directed the committee to continue its investigation to determine if criminal charges should be filed against company executives as well as Philippine defense and military officers over the failed deal.

The Philippines wants the light attack helicopters to fight communist rebels. President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo has ordered the military to end the nearly 40-year communist insurgency by the time she steps down in 2010.

Source - http://www.aol.in/news/story/200801252315004987151/index.html

Philippine commando photos

Philippine designed and made Sub Machinegun MK-9 with a firepower of 800-850 rounds per minute can cut you in half.

This is deadlier than the Israeli Uzi which only has 600 rounds per minute.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floro_MK-9
http://www.timawa.net/defense/smallarms/floromk9.htm

Other Philippine Made Weapons

http://www.floro-intl.com/

105mm Pack Howitzer


Personal Defense Weapon


High Velocity Grenade Launcher


MK-9 Sub Machinegun




MK-9 Variations

The Philippines also manufacture upgraded M16s and M4s
http://www.ferfrans.net/p_soar.htm
http://www.ferfrans.net/p_dmr.htm
http://www.ferfrans.net/p_pdw.htm


The Barret 50 Caliber Sniper Rifle to shoot down Planes and Helicopters

Nice guns especially this sniper rifle to shoot down the planes. I hope it really works.

What's the level of training in the Philippine Armed Forces? As an American ally, I know we receive a lot of "military assistance" from the Yanks, just wonder if this translates into a really solid core of hard-assed veterans who are the backbone of any strong military.

Or is the PI military a joke like many third-world armies in which political friends and other cronies get high-ranking spots and cushy assignments, despite never having fired a gun in their lives?

despite not having a lenghty military tradition and not so modern equipments, our
armed forces are the most experienced bad-asses in the pacific. we got insurgencies
so most of our soldiers have lots of actual combat experience which other armed
forces cant afford to give to their troops(unless they invade someone). i can guarantee
that in times of war, the combat experience of armed forces will take its toll on the enemy.

you should also research about the Philippine Scouts. The best marksmen and best unit in
the Pacific during WW2.

Philippine Special Forces








Filipino Special Forces Master Sergeant Jaime Agonoy teaches US Marines how to catch a cobra to slaughter for food during a jungle survival training

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0olDLDt94E...feature=related
Cool Montage of Philippine Military Arsenal



Philippine Army scout Rangers




Philippine Military Academy



Philippine and U.S. Marines

I see fake ammo, a bunch of fat arses, and some trying-hard air-soft dudes.

^ I agree, hahahaha lol
I was surprised to see a guy with glasses in the force.....if this pic is true, the commandos aren't so commandos now.

The thing is, filipino's can be so amazing its just the equipment is fukin sh*t and when we do have the equipment its either for show because its too expensive to use for battle. We have so many motivated people in our military but lack of tools....




LOL yeah that was a bad example... that muthafuka looked fat... he dont look like a special forces at all.... nigga probably took all his might to bend like that....

rather shoot some sling shots and blow guns.. less detectable. u can make it for free too

our country is mostly jungle, we could use booby traps instead. heavy tanks wouldnt stand a chance either, the forest is too dense for such buggers.

Nice to see this thread getting some much needed attention.

True True... I dont think we should have plenty of tanks. Although having tanks as a "just in case" wouldnt hurt.

We need top notch Sniper Rifles, LMG's.. Choppers, Tools for communication, Night visions. We have old @ss m16 rifles and smoke grenades.... probably jams all the time... and we should pay these people a respectable wage... I heard these dudes even have to pay for their own soap(through their allowance) and sh*T...

Well, I just saw the funds going into the pocket of some soldiers in position *hides*

Really. It hurts knowing that your military is already under-funded yet plagued by corruption. Anyway, it's OT so don't mind me.

i read in a book about Bataan Campaign that Yanks are more afraid
wandering in the frontlines of their Filipino allies than in No Mans Land.
Filipinos are fond of making booby traps which makes Yanks afraid
to go to Filipino lines without escort..

Shootout Part 1
Shootout Part 2
Shootout Part 3
Shootout Part 4
Shootout PaRT 5


CHECk OUT the later part of the first part and the early
part of part 2.. those Filipino Scouts kicks @$$...
it makes me really proud seeing this one especially
the dude who killed tons of Japanese..

There is a Movie about that Bataan Raid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Raid

^^^That movie is sick......

I dont think anybody can deny the ability of our soldiers to fight. Americans didnt even had proper weapons to fight the japanese, let alone our people. If we had weapons, Imperial japan wouldnt even be able to take over....

I liked this movie.

The Philippine Army's MK-I prototype Armored Vehicle

Is that a M1 Garand I see ??

@Red Baron....nice vids you got there, I really like the dramatisation.

@Martin...... I have watched that movie too and it's cool !!

Cool pics - I noticed some of the soldiers were carrying Steyr AUG's and others carrying M14's. I know the M14's are courtesy of Uncle Sam, (as are the standard issue M16 and M4s) but where did the AUG come from? Personal purchase?

As far as being experienced - yeah I guess many members of the PI military would have actual combat experience (albeit in a counter-insurgency role) Are the PI special forces respected by their counterparts in US Army Delta, Navy SEALs, British SAS, and the like?

Oh - and the movie the "Great Raid" was about the Cabanatuan prison raid. Unfortunately, the movie seems to give rather short shrift to the role of the Filipino guerillas and virtually 95% of screen time to the American Rangers.

In the Great Raid Movie the American Rangers were the highlight of the movie because it is a Hollywood film but the Filipino Capt. Pajota (Cesar Montano) was the one planned the Raid in the movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pajota

This is the kind of heroes that we have overlooked/forgotten...

In Hollywood movies Americans try to take credit of everything.

True. We can't take that away from them. Who would watch an unknown foreign actor (thinking if I'm an American) casted in an American made film? They would be going to see the movie to see their actors in action rather than watch our very own.


It's still profits.

But I highly appreciate the producers/directors for acknowledging the presence of Pinoys having vital roles during the mission.

I think there was a very old war movie (IIRC, it was made even during the war) called "Back to Bataan" or something like that - and even though it was an American-made movie, with the intention of showing it to American audiences, there were a great number of Filipino actors in that movie. Many of them had significant screen time and probably at least ten of them had speaking roles. I didn't even know that movie existed until a friend of mine (non-Pinoy, BTW) who is an enthusiast of old war movies, happened to show it to me.

I found this interesting Philippine Defense website.

http://timawa.net/index.htm

we badly need an immediate modernization fund sa armed forces natin. yung mga gahaman kasi nagtatayo na raw ng submarine base somewhere in south china sea. thats what iv hears from the news.

In my opinion Philippines should stop being reliant too heavily on USA. Whenever there is a chance Philippines need to buy their military hardware from sources other than USA. It all about value for money. Buy some of it from USA, buy some more from others, a mixed approach is needed.

IMHO we need a reformation within the army first and pluck out those greedy generals before we modernize our military.

it is my dream to produce a Bataan War series (ala Band of Brothers)
featuring the Philippine Scouts...
these guys are legend. to bad most filipinos dont even know about them...

Band of Brothers is my favorite TV series. Btw if you're too passionate about having a series made on Bataan wars then you should approach and convince Steven Speilberg, in my opinion he is the only one who can really do justice to the series.

They didnt try to take credit of everything.... The movie was about the american soldiers not the filipino guerillas, what do you expect the scenes would be?. If they made about the filipino guerillas then it would be different. American have done ALOT, I mean ALOT in all the known wars that they have been involved in, incomparable to any country that exist today. There are alot of things that americans have done that we should be thankful for.

as long as you dont allow ABS-CBN or GMA in it, i think
we will give justice to the men who fought there.....

Okay I agree with your point on the movie. But you need not praise America that much. USA entered the second world war because of their own compulsions, and not because they feel for others. You must also be aware of the fact that during second world war when Japanese occupied the european colonies, they (Japanese) took local people to form the local administration, but when USA again occupied those colonies they (USA) reverted back the control of those colonies to their old colonial masters (Europeans). But anyhow Japaneses were brutal so were the Americans and the Europeans.

^ Filipino soldiers are viewed through the sight of a cannon as they dissembark on the islet of 'Pag-asa', one of Spratly group of islands in the South China Sea, where Filipino soldiers are guarding but five other countries are laying claim on, 02 May 2008. The Arroyo government is under fire for supposedly selling out Philippine territory through the Spratlys oil exploration deal with China and Vietnam.


^ A Filipino soldier takes a break with his child during relatives' visit to military officers stationed on the islet of 'Pag-asa', one of Spratly group of islands in the South China Sea, where Filipino soldiers are guarding but five other countries are laying claim on, 02 May 2008.


^ Philippine Air Force chief General plays with sand during inspection of troops on the islet of 'Pag-asa', one of Spratlys' group of islands in the South China Sea, where Filipino soldiers are guarding but five other countries are laying claim on, 02 May 2008. The Arroyo government is under fire for supposedly selling out Philippine territory through the Spratlys oil exploration deal with China and Vietnam.

fu-k the government! why the fu-k they are selling the islands?

I am not praising them. I am giving them credit to all the good things they have done to the world. You were the one that is making it sound like they are all about getting credits and making them sound evil. Yes they do bad things but they also have done great things.

Do you really think if it wasnt for america all these countries that were occupied by germany would be the same today?, all the asian countries that were affected by imperial japan?, South Korea?. They lost lives for other people. They have their own political interest and I dont blame them for that, but so does every country in the world..... If it wasnt for america, japan would have kept on raping our grandmothers, killing our grandfathers and raping our land... alot of us probably wouldnt even be here... American soldiers put their lives on the line and died to fight the evil that has been torturing us.... and that is only the philippines.... alot of countries were saved because of america....

So I definitely have to give them credit for all of that....

but it is also the cause why the japanese did some horrible atrocities against the Filipinos, because the Filipinos are American loving people, Japanese got angry and tried to proved that Filipinos are asians and had no reason to love the Americans...

did you ever heard any Japanese atrocities in Indonesia during the war?

You're clearly praising the Americans, but you're in a denial mode. Looks like you're a filipino american. And you have double standards here, you're accusing me that I'm trying to make them sound evil, whereas my remark was too causal and insignificant for such an accusation. On the contrary you're the one who is praising them like Gods and making it sound like Americans are the only good guys in the world and they are the world saviors and everyone else is evil. Give me a break.


Rather the second world war was a combined effort. Now in your own words. Do you think if it wasn't for Russia or Soviet Union all these countries occupied by Germany would be the same today?

As far as raping of women by japanese is concerned, that was very inhuman. But look as Angeles City in Philippines and Pattaya in Thailand, money, tourism and commerce have replaced brutality but the intentions are the same. You should know that there were US military bases near those places.

Hey Everybody !! when McArthur say " I Shall Return" He mean FOR THE GOLD !! not to help Pilipino !!