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tool666
son of a domestic helper in HK a.k.a ejay1 said:

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You don't eat dog because they are man's best friend. Besides dogs are 80 percent sh!t anyway. In the Philippines we don't eat dog, only the chinese immigrants do.

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Who eats more dog chinese or vietnamese.

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We don't eat dog in the Philippines were civilized. Only asian countries have people who eat dog ala Vietnam. Maybe you are refering to the vietnamese who live in the Philippines.


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Im sorry we don't eat dog in the Philippines. But we make a sh!t load of money by selling our stray dogs to Vietnam. They seem to can't get enough of that stuff.

A dog barking=food in vietnam



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The Dog Meat Trade in Baguio City and Cordilleras

    Dog meat eating has been associated with the Cordillerans or the Igorots, even before the American era. In fact, Igorots were described by an American author in the early 1900’s as dog eating people.

    To date, every Igorot or Cordilleran is faced with that stigma, most especially nowadays that dog eating has become commercialized.

    While Ilocanos and residents of the nearby provinces also eat dog meat, majority or almost 95% of the dog meat being eaten in the country is consumed in Baguio City and the rest of the Cordilleras.

    But the dog meat supply in Baguio City and La Trinidad Benguet come from as far down the Southern Tagalog provinces like Laguna and Batangas. Sources also revealed that there are frozen dog meat which come as far as Mindanao.

    The passing of R.A. 8485 or the Animal Welfare Act in 1998 did very little to help.

    As a matter of fact, despite the law, restaurants serving the dish (dog meat) are growing in number, and are being allowed to operate by the local governments of Baguio and Benguet. In Baguio City and La Trinidad alone, there are about 20 restaurants and eateries serving dog meat as a specialty. This is aside from the other restaurants who have dog meat in their menu cooked as azucena or samlok (but not a specialty). A known restaurant in Session Road serves dog  meat (samlok).  Even local officials are known as dog meat eaters, who patronize these restaurants.

    Since the passage of the law, there was no actual effort from the local governments of Baguio and Benguet to stop the trade. In fact, two of the thriving restaurants serving dog meat and maintaining illegal slaughterhouses are just a stone’s throw away from the Benguet Provincial Capitol.

    The apprehensions done by the police on those inhumanely transporting dogs for dog meat purposes are either accidental (in lieu of a traffic violation), or spearheaded by NGOs.

    There were already pocket apprehensions in 1998 of motorists violating the law. However, it was only in the year 2000 when the Political Animal Lobby (PAL), a United Kingdom based non-profit organization, initiated a raid on dog slaughterhouse with the cooperation of  the DILG’s Task Force Jericho. The 2 cases filed out of the raid, however, were dismissed by the Court.

    In the second quarter of  2002, another foreign based organization, the International Wildlife Coalition (IWC)– UK headed by Charles Wartenberg, also tried to initiate a police raid on dog slaughterhouses. However, Wartenberg and his cohorts ended up facing a case of violation of the law themselves, filed by Baguio-based group, Linis Gobyerno. The case is the first to be filed in the Baguio City Prosecutor’s Office and in a Baguio Court. Linis Gobyerno has accused Wartneberg and cohorts of violating the Animal Welfare Act, when they unjustifiably subjected the dogs to euthanasia



Animal welfare cases going nowhere

    Complaints regarding the illegal dog meat trade were never treated seriously in this part of the region. As observed with the turn of events in almost all of the cases that were filed in line with R.A. 8485 or the Animal Welfare Act, after pleading guilty, violators will just pay the fine, or pay the bail bond, then they go back to their dog meat trading business. The records of the Baguio and Benguet Prosecutors’ offices show that as of June 25, 2003, 18 complaints have already been received by their respective offices. 5 of which were filed at Tuba-Sablan MCTC, 8 at La Trinidad MTC, and 5 at the Baguio MTC.

    Out of the 18 cases 2 were dismissed while 7 are still on going trial. The respondents in 9 cases were convicted.

    All those convicted, however plead guilty upon arraignment. None of those  cases reached a full blown hearing. The violators were just made to pay the fine that ranges from P1, 000 to P5,000. Most of them however were meted with a P2,500 fine, a far lesser expense than pleading “not guilty” and having a lawyer to defend them. The latest offender who plead guilty at the La Trinidad MTC was made to pay a measly fine of P1,000. The judge’s explanation for the ridiculous fine is because the respondent is a first offender. So far the highest fine imposed is P5,000, meted to a certain Severina M. Ortega, it being her second conviction for the same offense.

    The heaviest penalty on the other hand was imposed on Enrique P. Panlaque. On his latest conviction, Judge Tomas Tolete of Tuba MCTC imposed upon him a penalty of 6 months imprisonment. Panlaque however applied at once for probation, which was objected by prosecutor Lilian Oliva. Her opposition which was received by the court on April 14, 2003 states that Panlaque is a repeat offender, because he was already convicted twice earlier on by the same court and by a Pasay City Court for the same offense. Aside from his convictions, Panlaque is also facing another case for the same offense (illegal and inhuman transporting of dogs) before a Baguio City MTC.  The Judge’s order on the same date (April 14), however did not make any mention of the points raised by Pros. Olivia.

    If that is sickening there is more.

    Severino Bugayong’s residence cum dog slaughterhouse located at  Km. 3, La Trinidad was raided for the first time on October 2000. Adding insult to injury Bugayong apparently was able to secure a  business permit for his illegal activity, as evidenced by his business plate, numbered 0415.  The case against Bugayong, who was 75 years old at that time, was dismissed by La Trinidad MTC’s Judge Agapito K. Loagan Jr. Worse the confiscated items from his dog slaughterhouse such as blowtorch, knives, etc. were eventually released to him. On 2002, Bugayong was again arrested for the same offense. This time he plead guilty.

    As it is, the law is perceived to be taken lightly even by the Judges, based on the penalties they give even to the repeat offenders.

    Further, in all cases involving illegal transportation of dogs in inhumane manner, the vehicles used were ordered to be released by the judges, some even before the case were decided upon. In one case at La Trinidad MTC the CIDG objected to the release of the vehicle claiming that said vehicle was used several times for the same illegal activity.

    It would also seem that the judges or prosecution do not consider the recovered dogs as part of the evidence. Nowhere in the judgment of all cases, made mention of the recovered dogs, their whereabouts, their conditions, and how they should be disposed off. Further out of  542 recovered dogs since 1998, 381 were turned-over to the Baguio City Veterinary Office, 73 were allegedly brought to the Manila City Pound, leaving 88 unaccounted for.

    It is worthy to note however, that all cases brought about by apprehensions initiated by NGOs, the law enforcers were left alone to prosecute the case. The NGOs (international at that) never extended legal assistance for the proper prosecution of the cases. In all cases that reached the courts, it is only the case filed by Linis Gobyerno which is being assisted by the group’s private lawyer.

    The law enforcers (in this place) themselves take this law lightly. In Tuba, Benguet for example, one known dog slaughterhouse operating since 1999, is just a few meters away from a Police Station, but the police never apprehended those involved.

    In the Baguio City Market, dog meat is openly being traded, but nobody apprehends the sellers, not the City Licensing Office (under of the Office of the Mayor) which gives them business licenses; not the Market Task Force of the Baguio City Police Office. The first arrest conducted on the dog meat retailers, was on June 25, when a concerned citizen, by the name of  Bythe Reed, went to the Market Task Force armed with a print out of the Animal Welfare Act (downloaded from the internet), and told the police to arrest 3 guys, who despite being warned, were blatantly selling dog meat.

    But what can you expect from these law enforcers who are mostly dog eaters?

    This is the reason why animal welfare advocates, think thrice before enlisting the assistance of the Cordillera based law enforcers for the raid and apprehension of the dog meat traders. It is a sad fact, that aside from PAL which taps the CIDG, others prefer the assistance of law enforcers outside of the Cordillera, which makes the entire process very costly.

    But raid, apprehension, and the arrest of the offenders is the easiest part of the whole process of stopping the trade.

    Freddie Farres, Executive of Linis Gobyerno said, that that battle starts after the apprehension and arrest. There are the recovered dogs that should be attended to, and there are cases that should be handled by competent lawyers so that the violators will be meted with the suited maximum penalty.

    While PAL has turned over its recovered dogs to the City Pound, Farres expressed his dismay on how these dogs were handled, as the mortality rate is a whooping  85%. Another group, the Animal Kingdom Foundation (in which Wartenberg of IWC also belongs), has claimed to have brought the dogs they recovered to as far as Manila City Pound. The court responsible for the case was never informed of the status of the dogs. Maybe because the court never asked. In some apprehensions, there were no mention of where the recovered live dogs were turned over.

    And while the law enforcers were left in the cold by the NGOs for the prosecution, the City Veterinary’s Office (handling the Dog Pound) was also left with the burden of handling the recovered dogs.

Dog adoption

    Dog adoption was never heard of in Baguio City and the Cordilleras until the end of last year, when the City Veterinary’s Office started adopting out some of the dogs that were turned over to them by PAL and the law enforcers. Of the 389 dogs in their custody, 10% or 38 dogs were said to be subjected for adoption.

    According to the City Veterinarian, Dr. Brigit Piok, the adopter is required  to pay an amount of P390 for the dog’s complete vaccination (Distemper, Hepatitis Parvo-Leptospirosis [DH2 PL] and Canine Parvo Virus [CPV]). Anti-Rabies is also being given for free. In a private clinic, DH2 PL + CPV costs P350, or P40 less than what the City Vet. Charges.

    But there appears to be a discrepancy in the amount which was said by the City Vet that they are charging and the amount which the adopters claim to have paid. In a research conducted by The Junction (in coordination with Linis Gobyerno), those adopters from the Slaughterhouse compound admitted having paid a meager amount of P60. Others claim to have paid P200-390. All of them however, thought that what was given to their adopted dogs are just Anti-Rabies. Apparently, the other shots were not explained to them.

    And while the adopters were made to sign an adoption agreement, it appears that only 2 of them complied with the terms and conditions of the adoption. One of the conditions is for the adopter to take good care of the animal and to treat it as their own pet and shall subject it for periodic inspection by any authorized representative of the City Veterinary Office. However, based on the research, it appears that the adopters themselves did not treat the adopted dogs as their own pets, because 4 dogs have died, and 2 were sold. There is also one adopter who, according to his neighbors, allegedly slaughtered the dog and ate it although he did not confirm nor deny the allegations. He however cannot give a straight answer when he was asked about the whereabouts of the dog. As to the  “periodic inspection” as stated in the agreement, it can be recalled that in an interview conducted earlier, Dr. Piok openly admitted that they do not conduct post adoption monitoring. The adopters also confirmed this by saying that no one from the City Vet, or from the PAL ever visited the dogs.

    The agreement further states that the ownership of the animal shall remain under the adopter’s name and shall not be removed or transferred without written permission from the City Veterinarian, which is again another agreement only in paper because some of the adopters claim that the dogs they adopted were brought to their respective provinces, but the exact addresses were not given. It is also a question how the ownership can be legally transferred as the dogs are not registered and are not tagged. The agreement also states that, the adopter shall report immediately to the City Veterinary’s Office once the animal gets sick or dies. Based on the research, 4 adopted dogs died, 1 escaped but these were not reported. The other 21 dogs were not seen since some of the adopters are either not in their respective residences at the time of the interview or are no longer residing in the stated addresses. The neighbors of 10 adopters who are not at their respective residences, however said that they have seen no signs of dogs at the residences of the adopters.

    Only one was seen to have a doghouse.

    Out of the 38 dogs only 3 are confirmed to be alive and in good condition. These were adopted by a Korean couple, Sung Soo Lee and Huh Hee Kyung, and an elderly, Flora Armas of Loakan.

    As it is, the dog adoption program of the City Veterinary’s Office needs a lot of improvement mainly procedures and implementation.

    It is believed that the adoption program of the City Veterinary’s Office is an offshoot of the case filed by Linis Gobyerno against the Director of International Wildlife Coalition (IWC) in United Kingdom, a certain Charles Wartenberg, when he together with his cohorts “put down” or killed the recovered dogs thru euthanasia. R.A. 8485 is specific that the killing of dogs is allowed under certain conditions, but it should be done through the use of most scientific methods available as may be determined by the Committee on Animal Welfare. To date, the committee has not set the standard said “most scientific” method of killing the dogs.

    It is also observed that based on the summary provided by the City Veterinary’s Office the recovered dogs in the year 2000 and 2001 were not reflected. Court records show that in the year 2000, at least 5 dogs were turned over by PAL to the dog pound. As to how those dogs were disposed off, is still not clear, as they were not accounted for.

http://www.linisgobyerno.org/dog_meat_trad...uio_city_an.htm



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Dog-eating and my culture
by Bing A Dawang

JUST before World Animal Day, which coincides with the feast of St. Francis d'Assisi, the patron saint of animals, a local (USA) newspaper defended the dog meat trade in the Philippines, in particular in Baguio City and the Cordilleras, by claiming that dog eating is a part of the Igorot indigenous culture.

As a full-blooded Igorot, I take offence.

The newspaper quoted Isikias Isican, said to be curator of the St. Louis University museum, as saying that there is a clear cultural basis for butchering dogs because they were "butchered by Igorot tribes before going to war, or to cure certain afflictions."

Isican generalized that dog-eating is a part of Igorot tradition by recalling that in 1904 a few Igorot men and women were displayed at the Louisiana Purchase Exhibition ("world's fair") in St Louis, Missouri. Described as heathen Pagans, they butchered a dog as part of the show.

In the same article Hanzen Binay, formerly defence counsel for several dog meat traders and now a Benguet prosecutor, questioned the wisdom of the Philippine Animal Welfare Act. Stating that the law was supported by British animal advocates, Binay asked rhetorically why Britain does not respect the Igorot culture.

As an Igorot, I vehemently do not accept dog eating as my culture. I was not raised to eat dogs. Dog meat is not a part of my diet, nor has it ever been. I find it insulting that Igorots are branded as dog-eaters, not only in the Philippines but abroad. It is a shame, and because Igorots are Filipinos, dog-eating is a Philippine national shame.

It is true that in ancient times some Igorot tribes butchered their dogs before going to war. It was the belief of the then Pagan Igorot that the spirits of the sacrificed dogs would guard them in battle.

In times of tragedy, the family dog might also have been sacrificed to appease the spirits, and to assign the soul of the dog to guard the spirits of the living family members.

Dog sacrifice always connoted bad luck, tragedy, or death. When a family butchered a dog, which had to be the family dog, not just any dog bought from nowhere, the family was not feasting but was either mourning, in extreme pain, or involved in some other activity connected with death.

Dogs were not butchered as drunkards' fare, nor as a daily or regular part of the Igorot diet. Igorot families much preferred to avoid the circumstances which might lead them to sacrifice their dog.

Dog sacrifice for religious purposes is allowed under the Philippine Animal Welfare Act. But the act also requires that dog sacrifices must be recorded and reported. Five years after the law was passed, the Bureau of Animal Industry has yet to receive any such reports from the Igorot elders.

Igorot culture has greatly changed since 1904. Headhunting, for example, was also part of the Igorot culture and way of life 100 years ago. We now recognise and reject that practice as murder (would Isikias Isican expect this 'tradition' also to be 'respected'?). This is adaptation. This is cultural evolution. We discard bad customs and traditions, and adopt good ones from other cultures and as an Igorot, a Filipino, a law-abiding citizen, and a lover of dogs, if I see anyone butchering and selling dogs for meat, I will not hesitate to bring criminal charges.

Incidentally, anyone who believes that the Philippine Animal Welfare Act was passed chiefly through the lobbying of British citizens, or Americans, or members of any nationality other than Filipino is misinformed. Foreigners helped, but most of the work was done by Filippinos, represented by Philippine groups, including the Philippine Animal Welfare Society, reorganized in 1986 by Nita Hontiveros-Lichauco, and the Philippine SPCA, formed on December 13, 1904 (the year of the Louisiana Purchase Exposition), now headed by Edgardo Aldaba.

We have in common, besides our cause, one hero: the dog Dagul, an askal, whose kind are commonly captured and butchered. Dagul, however, was adopted by Wilmar Castillo and family. Dagul rewarded their compassion in May 2003 when he alerted Wilmar Castillo to an avalanche of mud just in time to save the young man's life.

Honoured with the Lewyt Award for Compassionate and Heroic Animals, as described in the September 2003 edition of ANIMAL PEOPLE, Dagul and Wilmar Castillo demonstrated the relationship that we believe should exist among humans and dogs. Kindness toward dogs and other creatures is fundamental to my culture.

Bing A Dawang is editor of The Junction regional newspaper and is a founding officer of Linis Gobyerno Inc, Baguio City, Philippines.
http://www.k9magazinefree.com/k9_perspective/iss16p3.shtml


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I turned my suspicion towards the tricycle drivers, who hang out at the little bakery across the street from our house. It’s easy to suspect them, because they are never very friendly. These guys always struck me as a lower breed, perhaps lower than dogs. I recalled a jarring scene several weeks before when I saw some guys out catching dogs late one night on Sucat Rd., the main road which leads to our subdivision. I was driving by at about two in the morning on my way home. I heard the awful yelp of a dog, and quickly turned my head towards the cry. I saw a mangy brown mutt being scooped up inside a tricycle.
Of course, I couldn’t have stormed over to the bakery and accused the trike drivers of taking Shiggy as they would simply have denied it. But I vowed never to buy any food from the bakery anymore. Some of the neighbors were hanging outside their homes and I asked them if they saw anything. They all shook their heads. But the old lady across the street assured me that our dog was alive.
“No, no, they didn’t kill your dog,” she said. “Pure breeds are not very good to eat. They make you hot inside when you eat them. If you’re going to eat a dog, it has to be a street dog. So don’t worry. I don’t think they ate your dog. They probably sold it for P500.” Gee, how wonderful, I thought. Thanks Grandmom. I could smell cooking food wafting out of her kitchen and I excused myself before she decided to invite me to dinner.
http://www.hey-joe.net/excerpt03.html


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http://www.hey-joe.net/excerpt03.html]http://www.hey-joe.net/excerpt03.html
Yeh, I know. I should try being a dog in the Philippines and see how I like it. I should try sleeping in somebody’s dirty, mosquito infested car park night in and night out. I should try living with vermin like mice and endless parades of cockroaches and blood sucking ticks. I should try existing in a world where some of the big creatures think my flesh goes quite well with San Miguel Beer. I have thought about all that and, well, it doesn’t sway me. Every time I have tried to feel empathy and sympathy for a Philippine dog the emotion just dissipates. Probably had to go earn a living or something important like that.



ejay1, your hipocrisy and ignorance....
ghanie
heller, most of the filipinos really don't eat dog meat! icon_rolleyes.gif


dogs??? ewwwwwwww
tool666
QUOTE (ghanie @ May 29 2004, 05:38 AM)
heller, most of the filipinos really don't eat dog meat!  icon_rolleyes.gif


dogs??? ewwwwwwww

Did I say that most flips eat dogs?

I was just pointing out ejay's hipocrisy.
redhotchili
a lot of filipinos eat dogs here. the ones not eating this kind of meat outnumber the ones that do though.
JMAC
PM Ejay1 if you want to point out his hypocrisy, making personal threads like these are against the rules...

tool666, you sound very familiar...


yeah I tasted dog meat, so what?
dalawapo
eek.gif holy! you did jmac?
RockHeart
QUOTE (redhotchili @ May 29 2004, 12:16 PM)
a lot of filipinos eat dogs here. the ones not eating this kind of meat outnumber the ones that do though.

Do you eat DOG, Redhotchili??? for me, i don't???? How come you eat dog for??? Which race is the most eat dog????/

RockHeart,


:genius:
JMAC
QUOTE (dalawapo @ May 29 2004, 03:41 PM)
eek.gif holy! you did jmac?

Why are you surprised? Yes I did when I was around 8.

I dont know why people make such a big deal out of it sure.gif
BatangDamo
QUOTE (JMAC @ May 29 2004, 12:20 PM)
PM Ejay1 if you want to point out his hypocrisy, making personal threads like these are against the rules...

tool666, you sound very familiar...


yeah I tasted dog meat, so what?

Hayaan mo na lang sya, naghahanap lang yan nang gulo.

Maybe he's one of those Khmer/Cambodians who got mad or something and now he comes here to start another flame war.....


Talk to Ejay not post your silly topic....

mukha-kang gago...
RockHeart
QUOTE (BatangDamo @ May 29 2004, 07:06 PM)
QUOTE (JMAC @ May 29 2004, 12:20 PM)
PM Ejay1 if you want to point out his hypocrisy, making personal threads like these are against the rules...

tool666, you sound very familiar...


yeah I tasted dog meat, so what?

Hayaan mo na lang sya, naghahanap lang yan nang gulo.

Maybe he's one of those Khmer/Cambodians who got mad or something and now he comes here to start another flame war.....


Talk to Ejay not post your silly topic....

mukha-kang gago...

Hey BatangDamo,

The poster in this topic is NOT a CambodiaGuy!!! Its another race, check it you will see it!!

RockHeart,


:genius:
Butterfly
Dog, the other white meat ......... confused.gif

In some places eating a Cow is about as bad as eating a dog so i don't have much to say about it. I like cow biggrin.gif
redhotchili
QUOTE (RockHeart @ May 30 2004, 06:33 AM)
QUOTE (redhotchili @ May 29 2004, 12:16 PM)
a lot of filipinos eat dogs here. the ones not eating this kind of meat outnumber the ones that do though.

Do you eat DOG, Redhotchili??? for me, i don't???? How come you eat dog for??? Which race is the most eat dog????/

RockHeart,


:genius:

no, RockHeart, i don't eat dogs. i've tasted dogmeat but i don't eat dogmeat. i was young then, pretty much that age when you eat almost everything that's put in your mouth; as long as it's not $hit, i mean.
dalawapo
QUOTE (JMAC @ May 29 2004, 06:37 PM)
QUOTE (dalawapo @ May 29 2004, 03:41 PM)
eek.gif holy! you did jmac?

Why are you surprised? Yes I did when I was around 8.

I dont know why people make such a big deal out of it sure.gif

1. i was raised in america so dogs have been instilled in my heart to be my best friend and not my dinner

2. im eek.gif because i am confuse whether you promote the eating of dog, if you would eat a dog on a regular basis if it was available to you, or if you ate the dog as a one time thing you tried,..... btw did you eat a spoon ful or a whole meal?

3. omg.................

4. no offense, your still same old jmac to me... icon_confused.gif

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5. can you tell me the smell of cooked dog, the texture (was it tough etc), the look of the meat, & the taste of dog. confused.gif
JMAC
QUOTE (dalawapo @ May 29 2004, 11:30 PM)
QUOTE (JMAC @ May 29 2004, 06:37 PM)
QUOTE (dalawapo @ May 29 2004, 03:41 PM)
eek.gif holy! you did jmac?

Why are you surprised? Yes I did when I was around 8.

I dont know why people make such a big deal out of it sure.gif

1. i was raised in america so dogs have been instilled in my heart to be my best friend and not my dinner

2. im eek.gif because i am confuse whether you promote the eating of dog, if you would eat a dog on a regular basis if it was available to you, or if you ate the dog as a one time thing you tried,..... btw did you eat a spoon ful or a whole meal?

3. omg.................

4. no offense, your still same old jmac to me... icon_confused.gif

*EDIT*

5. can you tell me the smell of cooked dog, the texture (was it tough etc), the look of the meat, & the taste of dog. confused.gif

1. So does for me and other countless Filipinos, its just over there guys that usually drink with their buddies are somewhat hardcore(few of my uncles were) and they see dogs as a manly(or some reason like that) animal to eat sure.gif we had pet dogs but they dont roast them or anything, we love our pets as much as you love your pets. You'll have to be over there to better understand.

2. Im not promoting anything, I've tasted it a couple of times, I was 8 or something and curious, I tasted a couple of strips as they didnt wanna give me a meal, my grandma and aunts usually condemns me from eating it and being around my drunk uncles and their friends at night. sure.gif I had the exact same mentality as yours when I first found out like "noo, why eat a doggie??". No, Im not gonna eat it on a regular basis if it was available to me because I dont feel comfortable eating it. And they DONT sell dog meat over there since its not approved by the general population. Only would be macho har har dudes are extreme enough to do it. Even there its controversial believe or not. sure.gif

3. sure.gif

4. Sureee, back in your mind your probably like "eeeewwwwww!!!! ur grosss!!" embarassedlaugh.gif

5. Smell? sure.gif like normal meat I guess. As far as I can remember the meat was quite tough and hot...taste? I guess it depends on how you cook them.


I dont really see any reasons why to hide this issue...
redhotchili
QUOTE (JMAC @ May 30 2004, 12:39 PM)
I dont really see any reasons why to hide this issue...

agree. just like what butterfly has posted, a lot of indians would be horrified to know that in some countries (including the phils) their sacred cow is butchered to be eaten. vegetarians also agree that it's a no-no to eat any kind of meat. remember, one man's meat is another man's poison. cultural relativity is key.
tool666
QUOTE (BatangDamo @ May 29 2004, 07:06 PM)
QUOTE (JMAC @ May 29 2004, 12:20 PM)
PM Ejay1 if you want to point out his hypocrisy, making personal threads like these are against the rules...

tool666, you sound very familiar...


yeah I tasted dog meat, so what?

Hayaan mo na lang sya, naghahanap lang yan nang gulo.

Maybe he's one of those Khmer/Cambodians who got mad or something and now he comes here to start another flame war.....


Talk to Ejay not post your silly topic....

mukha-kang gago...

LOL
BishoujoHunter
QUOTE (tool666 @ May 29 2004, 02:42 AM)
son of a domestic helper in HK a.k.a ejay1 said:

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You don't eat dog because they are man's best friend. Besides dogs are 80 percent sh!t anyway. In the Philippines we don't eat dog, only the chinese immigrants do.

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Who eats more dog chinese or vietnamese.

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We don't eat dog in the Philippines were civilized. Only asian countries have people who eat dog ala Vietnam. Maybe you are refering to the vietnamese who live in the Philippines.


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Im sorry we don't eat dog in the Philippines. But we make a sh!t load of money by selling our stray dogs to Vietnam. They seem to can't get enough of that stuff.

A dog barking=food in vietnam



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The Dog Meat Trade in Baguio City and Cordilleras

    Dog meat eating has been associated with the Cordillerans or the Igorots, even before the American era. In fact, Igorots were described by an American author in the early 1900’s as dog eating people.

    To date, every Igorot or Cordilleran is faced with that stigma, most especially nowadays that dog eating has become commercialized.

    While Ilocanos and residents of the nearby provinces also eat dog meat, majority or almost 95% of the dog meat being eaten in the country is consumed in Baguio City and the rest of the Cordilleras.

    But the dog meat supply in Baguio City and La Trinidad Benguet come from as far down the Southern Tagalog provinces like Laguna and Batangas. Sources also revealed that there are frozen dog meat which come as far as Mindanao.

    The passing of R.A. 8485 or the Animal Welfare Act in 1998 did very little to help.

    As a matter of fact, despite the law, restaurants serving the dish (dog meat) are growing in number, and are being allowed to operate by the local governments of Baguio and Benguet. In Baguio City and La Trinidad alone, there are about 20 restaurants and eateries serving dog meat as a specialty. This is aside from the other restaurants who have dog meat in their menu cooked as azucena or samlok (but not a specialty). A known restaurant in Session Road serves dog  meat (samlok).  Even local officials are known as dog meat eaters, who patronize these restaurants.

    Since the passage of the law, there was no actual effort from the local governments of Baguio and Benguet to stop the trade. In fact, two of the thriving restaurants serving dog meat and maintaining illegal slaughterhouses are just a stone’s throw away from the Benguet Provincial Capitol.

    The apprehensions done by the police on those inhumanely transporting dogs for dog meat purposes are either accidental (in lieu of a traffic violation), or spearheaded by NGOs.

    There were already pocket apprehensions in 1998 of motorists violating the law. However, it was only in the year 2000 when the Political Animal Lobby (PAL), a United Kingdom based non-profit organization, initiated a raid on dog slaughterhouse with the cooperation of  the DILG’s Task Force Jericho. The 2 cases filed out of the raid, however, were dismissed by the Court.

    In the second quarter of  2002, another foreign based organization, the International Wildlife Coalition (IWC)– UK headed by Charles Wartenberg, also tried to initiate a police raid on dog slaughterhouses. However, Wartenberg and his cohorts ended up facing a case of violation of the law themselves, filed by Baguio-based group, Linis Gobyerno. The case is the first to be filed in the Baguio City Prosecutor’s Office and in a Baguio Court. Linis Gobyerno has accused Wartneberg and cohorts of violating the Animal Welfare Act, when they unjustifiably subjected the dogs to euthanasia



Animal welfare cases going nowhere

    Complaints regarding the illegal dog meat trade were never treated seriously in this part of the region. As observed with the turn of events in almost all of the cases that were filed in line with R.A. 8485 or the Animal Welfare Act, after pleading guilty, violators will just pay the fine, or pay the bail bond, then they go back to their dog meat trading business. The records of the Baguio and Benguet Prosecutors’ offices show that as of June 25, 2003, 18 complaints have already been received by their respective offices. 5 of which were filed at Tuba-Sablan MCTC, 8 at La Trinidad MTC, and 5 at the Baguio MTC.

    Out of the 18 cases 2 were dismissed while 7 are still on going trial. The respondents in 9 cases were convicted.

    All those convicted, however plead guilty upon arraignment. None of those  cases reached a full blown hearing. The violators were just made to pay the fine that ranges from P1, 000 to P5,000. Most of them however were meted with a P2,500 fine, a far lesser expense than pleading “not guilty” and having a lawyer to defend them. The latest offender who plead guilty at the La Trinidad MTC was made to pay a measly fine of P1,000. The judge’s explanation for the ridiculous fine is because the respondent is a first offender. So far the highest fine imposed is P5,000, meted to a certain Severina M. Ortega, it being her second conviction for the same offense.

    The heaviest penalty on the other hand was imposed on Enrique P. Panlaque. On his latest conviction, Judge Tomas Tolete of Tuba MCTC imposed upon him a penalty of 6 months imprisonment. Panlaque however applied at once for probation, which was objected by prosecutor Lilian Oliva. Her opposition which was received by the court on April 14, 2003 states that Panlaque is a repeat offender, because he was already convicted twice earlier on by the same court and by a Pasay City Court for the same offense. Aside from his convictions, Panlaque is also facing another case for the same offense (illegal and inhuman transporting of dogs) before a Baguio City MTC.  The Judge’s order on the same date (April 14), however did not make any mention of the points raised by Pros. Olivia.

    If that is sickening there is more.

    Severino Bugayong’s residence cum dog slaughterhouse located at  Km. 3, La Trinidad was raided for the first time on October 2000. Adding insult to injury Bugayong apparently was able to secure a  business permit for his illegal activity, as evidenced by his business plate, numbered 0415.  The case against Bugayong, who was 75 years old at that time, was dismissed by La Trinidad MTC’s Judge Agapito K. Loagan Jr. Worse the confiscated items from his dog slaughterhouse such as blowtorch, knives, etc. were eventually released to him. On 2002, Bugayong was again arrested for the same offense. This time he plead guilty.

    As it is, the law is perceived to be taken lightly even by the Judges, based on the penalties they give even to the repeat offenders.

    Further, in all cases involving illegal transportation of dogs in inhumane manner, the vehicles used were ordered to be released by the judges, some even before the case were decided upon. In one case at La Trinidad MTC the CIDG objected to the release of the vehicle claiming that said vehicle was used several times for the same illegal activity.

    It would also seem that the judges or prosecution do not consider the recovered dogs as part of the evidence. Nowhere in the judgment of all cases, made mention of the recovered dogs, their whereabouts, their conditions, and how they should be disposed off. Further out of   542 recovered dogs since 1998, 381 were turned-over to the Baguio City Veterinary Office, 73 were allegedly brought to the Manila City Pound, leaving 88 unaccounted for.

    It is worthy to note however, that all cases brought about by apprehensions initiated by NGOs, the law enforcers were left alone to prosecute the case. The NGOs (international at that) never extended legal assistance for the proper prosecution of the cases. In all cases that reached the courts, it is only the case filed by Linis Gobyerno which is being assisted by the group’s private lawyer.

    The law enforcers (in this place) themselves take this law lightly. In Tuba, Benguet for example, one known dog slaughterhouse operating since 1999, is just a few meters away from a Police Station, but the police never apprehended those involved.

    In the Baguio City Market, dog meat is openly being traded, but nobody apprehends the sellers, not the City Licensing Office (under of the Office of the Mayor) which gives them business licenses; not the Market Task Force of the Baguio City Police Office. The first arrest conducted on the dog meat retailers, was on June 25, when a concerned citizen, by the name of  Bythe Reed, went to the Market Task Force armed with a print out of the Animal Welfare Act (downloaded from the internet), and told the police to arrest 3 guys, who despite being warned, were blatantly selling dog meat.

    But what can you expect from these law enforcers who are mostly dog eaters?

    This is the reason why animal welfare advocates, think thrice before enlisting the assistance of the Cordillera based law enforcers for the raid and apprehension of the dog meat traders. It is a sad fact, that aside from PAL which taps the CIDG, others prefer the assistance of law enforcers outside of the Cordillera, which makes the entire process very costly.

    But raid, apprehension, and the arrest of the offenders is the easiest part of the whole process of stopping the trade.

    Freddie Farres, Executive of Linis Gobyerno said, that that battle starts after the apprehension and arrest. There are the recovered dogs that should be attended to, and there are cases that should be handled by competent lawyers so that the violators will be meted with the suited maximum penalty.

    While PAL has turned over its recovered dogs to the City Pound, Farres expressed his dismay on how these dogs were handled, as the mortality rate is a whooping  85%. Another group, the Animal Kingdom Foundation (in which Wartenberg of IWC also belongs), has claimed to have brought the dogs they recovered to as far as Manila City Pound. The court responsible for the case was never informed of the status of the dogs. Maybe because the court never asked. In some apprehensions, there were no mention of where the recovered live dogs were turned over.

    And while the law enforcers were left in the cold by the NGOs for the prosecution, the City Veterinary’s Office (handling the Dog Pound) was also left with the burden of handling the recovered dogs.

Dog adoption

    Dog adoption was never heard of in Baguio City and the Cordilleras until the end of last year, when the City Veterinary’s Office started adopting out some of the dogs that were turned over to them by PAL and the law enforcers. Of the 389 dogs in their custody, 10% or 38 dogs were said to be subjected for adoption.

    According to the City Veterinarian, Dr. Brigit Piok, the adopter is required   to pay an amount of P390 for the dog’s complete vaccination (Distemper, Hepatitis Parvo-Leptospirosis [DH2 PL] and Canine Parvo Virus [CPV]). Anti-Rabies is also being given for free. In a private clinic, DH2 PL + CPV costs P350, or P40 less than what the City Vet. Charges.

    But there appears to be a discrepancy in the amount which was said by the City Vet that they are charging and the amount which the adopters claim to have paid. In a research conducted by The Junction (in coordination with Linis Gobyerno), those adopters from the Slaughterhouse compound admitted having paid a meager amount of P60. Others claim to have paid P200-390. All of them however, thought that what was given to their adopted dogs are just Anti-Rabies. Apparently, the other shots were not explained to them.

    And while the adopters were made to sign an adoption agreement, it appears that only 2 of them complied with the terms and conditions of the adoption. One of the conditions is for the adopter to take good care of the animal and to treat it as their own pet and shall subject it for periodic inspection by any authorized representative of the City Veterinary Office. However, based on the research, it appears that the adopters themselves did not treat the adopted dogs as their own pets, because 4 dogs have died, and 2 were sold. There is also one adopter who, according to his neighbors, allegedly slaughtered the dog and ate it although he did not confirm nor deny the allegations. He however cannot give a straight answer when he was asked about the whereabouts of the dog. As to the   “periodic inspection” as stated in the agreement, it can be recalled that in an interview conducted earlier, Dr. Piok openly admitted that they do not conduct post adoption monitoring. The adopters also confirmed this by saying that no one from the City Vet, or from the PAL ever visited the dogs.

    The agreement further states that the ownership of the animal shall remain under the adopter’s name and shall not be removed or transferred without written permission from the City Veterinarian, which is again another agreement only in paper because some of the adopters claim that the dogs they adopted were brought to their respective provinces, but the exact addresses were not given. It is also a question how the ownership can be legally transferred as the dogs are not registered and are not tagged. The agreement also states that, the adopter shall report immediately to the City Veterinary’s Office once the animal gets sick or dies. Based on the research, 4 adopted dogs died, 1 escaped but these were not reported. The other 21 dogs were not seen since some of the adopters are either not in their respective residences at the time of the interview or are no longer residing in the stated addresses. The neighbors of 10 adopters who are not at their respective residences, however said that they have seen no signs of dogs at the residences of the adopters.

    Only one was seen to have a doghouse.

    Out of the 38 dogs only 3 are confirmed to be alive and in good condition. These were adopted by a Korean couple, Sung Soo Lee and Huh Hee Kyung, and an elderly, Flora Armas of Loakan.

    As it is, the dog adoption program of the City Veterinary’s Office needs a lot of improvement mainly procedures and implementation.

    It is believed that the adoption program of the City Veterinary’s Office is an offshoot of the case filed by Linis Gobyerno against the Director of International Wildlife Coalition (IWC) in United Kingdom, a certain Charles Wartenberg, when he together with his cohorts “put down” or killed the recovered dogs thru euthanasia. R.A. 8485 is specific that the killing of dogs is allowed under certain conditions, but it should be done through the use of most scientific methods available as may be determined by the Committee on Animal Welfare. To date, the committee has not set the standard said “most scientific” method of killing the dogs.

    It is also observed that based on the summary provided by the City Veterinary’s Office the recovered dogs in the year 2000 and 2001 were not reflected. Court records show that in the year 2000, at least 5 dogs were turned over by PAL to the dog pound. As to how those dogs were disposed off, is still not clear, as they were not accounted for.

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Dog-eating and my culture
by Bing A Dawang

JUST before World Animal Day, which coincides with the feast of St. Francis d'Assisi, the patron saint of animals, a local (USA) newspaper defended the dog meat trade in the Philippines, in particular in Baguio City and the Cordilleras, by claiming that dog eating is a part of the Igorot indigenous culture.

As a full-blooded Igorot, I take offence.

The newspaper quoted Isikias Isican, said to be curator of the St. Louis University museum, as saying that there is a clear cultural basis for butchering dogs because they were "butchered by Igorot tribes before going to war, or to cure certain afflictions."

Isican generalized that dog-eating is a part of Igorot tradition by recalling that in 1904 a few Igorot men and women were displayed at the Louisiana Purchase Exhibition ("world's fair") in St Louis, Missouri. Described as heathen Pagans, they butchered a dog as part of the show.

In the same article Hanzen Binay, formerly defence counsel for several dog meat traders and now a Benguet prosecutor, questioned the wisdom of the Philippine Animal Welfare Act. Stating that the law was supported by British animal advocates, Binay asked rhetorically why Britain does not respect the Igorot culture.

As an Igorot, I vehemently do not accept dog eating as my culture. I was not raised to eat dogs. Dog meat is not a part of my diet, nor has it ever been. I find it insulting that Igorots are branded as dog-eaters, not only in the Philippines but abroad. It is a shame, and because Igorots are Filipinos, dog-eating is a Philippine national shame.

It is true that in ancient times some Igorot tribes butchered their dogs before going to war. It was the belief of the then Pagan Igorot that the spirits of the sacrificed dogs would guard them in battle.

In times of tragedy, the family dog might also have been sacrificed to appease the spirits, and to assign the soul of the dog to guard the spirits of the living family members.

Dog sacrifice always connoted bad luck, tragedy, or death. When a family butchered a dog, which had to be the family dog, not just any dog bought from nowhere, the family was not feasting but was either mourning, in extreme pain, or involved in some other activity connected with death.

Dogs were not butchered as drunkards' fare, nor as a daily or regular part of the Igorot diet. Igorot families much preferred to avoid the circumstances which might lead them to sacrifice their dog.

Dog sacrifice for religious purposes is allowed under the Philippine Animal Welfare Act. But the act also requires that dog sacrifices must be recorded and reported. Five years after the law was passed, the Bureau of Animal Industry has yet to receive any such reports from the Igorot elders.

Igorot culture has greatly changed since 1904. Headhunting, for example, was also part of the Igorot culture and way of life 100 years ago. We now recognise and reject that practice as murder (would Isikias Isican expect this 'tradition' also to be 'respected'?). This is adaptation. This is cultural evolution. We discard bad customs and traditions, and adopt good ones from other cultures and as an Igorot, a Filipino, a law-abiding citizen, and a lover of dogs, if I see anyone butchering and selling dogs for meat, I will not hesitate to bring criminal charges.

Incidentally, anyone who believes that the Philippine Animal Welfare Act was passed chiefly through the lobbying of British citizens, or Americans, or members of any nationality other than Filipino is misinformed. Foreigners helped, but most of the work was done by Filippinos, represented by Philippine groups, including the Philippine Animal Welfare Society, reorganized in 1986 by Nita Hontiveros-Lichauco, and the Philippine SPCA, formed on December 13, 1904 (the year of the Louisiana Purchase Exposition), now headed by Edgardo Aldaba.

We have in common, besides our cause, one hero: the dog Dagul, an askal, whose kind are commonly captured and butchered. Dagul, however, was adopted by Wilmar Castillo and family. Dagul rewarded their compassion in May 2003 when he alerted Wilmar Castillo to an avalanche of mud just in time to save the young man's life.

Honoured with the Lewyt Award for Compassionate and Heroic Animals, as described in the September 2003 edition of ANIMAL PEOPLE, Dagul and Wilmar Castillo demonstrated the relationship that we believe should exist among humans and dogs. Kindness toward dogs and other creatures is fundamental to my culture.

Bing A Dawang is editor of The Junction regional newspaper and is a founding officer of Linis Gobyerno Inc, Baguio City, Philippines.
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I turned my suspicion towards the tricycle drivers, who hang out at the little bakery across the street from our house. It’s easy to suspect them, because they are never very friendly. These guys always struck me as a lower breed, perhaps lower than dogs. I recalled a jarring scene several weeks before when I saw some guys out catching dogs late one night on Sucat Rd., the main road which leads to our subdivision. I was driving by at about two in the morning on my way home. I heard the awful yelp of a dog, and quickly turned my head towards the cry. I saw a mangy brown mutt being scooped up inside a tricycle.
Of course, I couldn’t have stormed over to the bakery and accused the trike drivers of taking Shiggy as they would simply have denied it. But I vowed never to buy any food from the bakery anymore. Some of the neighbors were hanging outside their homes and I asked them if they saw anything. They all shook their heads. But the old lady across the street assured me that our dog was alive.
“No, no, they didn’t kill your dog,” she said. “Pure breeds are not very good to eat. They make you hot inside when you eat them. If you’re going to eat a dog, it has to be a street dog. So don’t worry. I don’t think they ate your dog. They probably sold it for P500.” Gee, how wonderful, I thought. Thanks Grandmom. I could smell cooking food wafting out of her kitchen and I excused myself before she decided to invite me to dinner.
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Yeh, I know. I should try being a dog in the Philippines and see how I like it. I should try sleeping in somebody’s dirty, mosquito infested car park night in and night out. I should try living with vermin like mice and endless parades of cockroaches and blood sucking ticks. I should try existing in a world where some of the big creatures think my flesh goes quite well with San Miguel Beer. I have thought about all that and, well, it doesn’t sway me. Every time I have tried to feel empathy and sympathy for a Philippine dog the emotion just dissipates. Probably had to go earn a living or something important like that.



ejay1, your hipocrisy and ignorance....

Are you Anti-Pinoy
tool666
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son of a domestic helper in HK a.k.a ejay1 said:

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You don't eat dog because they are man's best friend. Besides dogs are 80 percent sh!t anyway. In the Philippines we don't eat dog, only the chinese immigrants do.

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Who eats more dog chinese or vietnamese.

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We don't eat dog in the Philippines were civilized. Only asian countries have people who eat dog ala Vietnam. Maybe you are refering to the vietnamese who live in the Philippines.


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Im sorry we don't eat dog in the Philippines. But we make a sh!t load of money by selling our stray dogs to Vietnam. They seem to can't get enough of that stuff.

A dog barking=food in vietnam



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The Dog Meat Trade in Baguio City and Cordilleras

    Dog meat eating has been associated with the Cordillerans or the Igorots, even before the American era. In fact, Igorots were described by an American author in the early 1900’s as dog eating people.

    To date, every Igorot or Cordilleran is faced with that stigma, most especially nowadays that dog eating has become commercialized.

    While Ilocanos and residents of the nearby provinces also eat dog meat, majority or almost 95% of the dog meat being eaten in the country is consumed in Baguio City and the rest of the Cordilleras.

    But the dog meat supply in Baguio City and La Trinidad Benguet come from as far down the Southern Tagalog provinces like Laguna and Batangas. Sources also revealed that there are frozen dog meat which come as far as Mindanao.

    The passing of R.A. 8485 or the Animal Welfare Act in 1998 did very little to help.

    As a matter of fact, despite the law, restaurants serving the dish (dog meat) are growing in number, and are being allowed to operate by the local governments of Baguio and Benguet. In Baguio City and La Trinidad alone, there are about 20 restaurants and eateries serving dog meat as a specialty. This is aside from the other restaurants who have dog meat in their menu cooked as azucena or samlok (but not a specialty). A known restaurant in Session Road serves dog  meat (samlok).  Even local officials are known as dog meat eaters, who patronize these restaurants.

    Since the passage of the law, there was no actual effort from the local governments of Baguio and Benguet to stop the trade. In fact, two of the thriving restaurants serving dog meat and maintaining illegal slaughterhouses are just a stone’s throw away from the Benguet Provincial Capitol.

    The apprehensions done by the police on those inhumanely transporting dogs for dog meat purposes are either accidental (in lieu of a traffic violation), or spearheaded by NGOs.

    There were already pocket apprehensions in 1998 of motorists violating the law. However, it was only in the year 2000 when the Political Animal Lobby (PAL), a United Kingdom based non-profit organization, initiated a raid on dog slaughterhouse with the cooperation of  the DILG’s Task Force Jericho. The 2 cases filed out of the raid, however, were dismissed by the Court.

    In the second quarter of  2002, another foreign based organization, the International Wildlife Coalition (IWC)– UK headed by Charles Wartenberg, also tried to initiate a police raid on dog slaughterhouses. However, Wartenberg and his cohorts ended up facing a case of violation of the law themselves, filed by Baguio-based group, Linis Gobyerno. The case is the first to be filed in the Baguio City Prosecutor’s Office and in a Baguio Court. Linis Gobyerno has accused Wartneberg and cohorts of violating the Animal Welfare Act, when they unjustifiably subjected the dogs to euthanasia



Animal welfare cases going nowhere

    Complaints regarding the illegal dog meat trade were never treated seriously in this part of the region. As observed with the turn of events in almost all of the cases that were filed in line with R.A. 8485 or the Animal Welfare Act, after pleading guilty, violators will just pay the fine, or pay the bail bond, then they go back to their dog meat trading business. The records of the Baguio and Benguet Prosecutors’ offices show that as of June 25, 2003, 18 complaints have already been received by their respective offices. 5 of which were filed at Tuba-Sablan MCTC, 8 at La Trinidad MTC, and 5 at the Baguio MTC.

    Out of the 18 cases 2 were dismissed while 7 are still on going trial. The respondents in 9 cases were convicted.

    All those convicted, however plead guilty upon arraignment. None of those  cases reached a full blown hearing. The violators were just made to pay the fine that ranges from P1, 000 to P5,000. Most of them however were meted with a P2,500 fine, a far lesser expense than pleading “not guilty” and having a lawyer to defend them. The latest offender who plead guilty at the La Trinidad MTC was made to pay a measly fine of P1,000. The judge’s explanation for the ridiculous fine is because the respondent is a first offender. So far the highest fine imposed is P5,000, meted to a certain Severina M. Ortega, it being her second conviction for the same offense.

    The heaviest penalty on the other hand was imposed on Enrique P. Panlaque. On his latest conviction, Judge Tomas Tolete of Tuba MCTC imposed upon him a penalty of 6 months imprisonment. Panlaque however applied at once for probation, which was objected by prosecutor Lilian Oliva. Her opposition which was received by the court on April 14, 2003 states that Panlaque is a repeat offender, because he was already convicted twice earlier on by the same court and by a Pasay City Court for the same offense. Aside from his convictions, Panlaque is also facing another case for the same offense (illegal and inhuman transporting of dogs) before a Baguio City MTC.  The Judge’s order on the same date (April 14), however did not make any mention of the points raised by Pros. Olivia.

    If that is sickening there is more.

    Severino Bugayong’s residence cum dog slaughterhouse located at  Km. 3, La Trinidad was raided for the first time on October 2000. Adding insult to injury Bugayong apparently was able to secure a  business permit for his illegal activity, as evidenced by his business plate, numbered 0415.  The case against Bugayong, who was 75 years old at that time, was dismissed by La Trinidad MTC’s Judge Agapito K. Loagan Jr. Worse the confiscated items from his dog slaughterhouse such as blowtorch, knives, etc. were eventually released to him. On 2002, Bugayong was again arrested for the same offense. This time he plead guilty.

    As it is, the law is perceived to be taken lightly even by the Judges, based on the penalties they give even to the repeat offenders.

    Further, in all cases involving illegal transportation of dogs in inhumane manner, the vehicles used were ordered to be released by the judges, some even before the case were decided upon. In one case at La Trinidad MTC the CIDG objected to the release of the vehicle claiming that said vehicle was used several times for the same illegal activity.

    It would also seem that the judges or prosecution do not consider the recovered dogs as part of the evidence. Nowhere in the judgment of all cases, made mention of the recovered dogs, their whereabouts, their conditions, and how they should be disposed off. Further out of  542 recovered dogs since 1998, 381 were turned-over to the Baguio City Veterinary Office, 73 were allegedly brought to the Manila City Pound, leaving 88 unaccounted for.

    It is worthy to note however, that all cases brought about by apprehensions initiated by NGOs, the law enforcers were left alone to prosecute the case. The NGOs (international at that) never extended legal assistance for the proper prosecution of the cases. In all cases that reached the courts, it is only the case filed by Linis Gobyerno which is being assisted by the group’s private lawyer.

    The law enforcers (in this place) themselves take this law lightly. In Tuba, Benguet for example, one known dog slaughterhouse operating since 1999, is just a few meters away from a Police Station, but the police never apprehended those involved.

    In the Baguio City Market, dog meat is openly being traded, but nobody apprehends the sellers, not the City Licensing Office (under of the Office of the Mayor) which gives them business licenses; not the Market Task Force of the Baguio City Police Office. The first arrest conducted on the dog meat retailers, was on June 25, when a concerned citizen, by the name of  Bythe Reed, went to the Market Task Force armed with a print out of the Animal Welfare Act (downloaded from the internet), and told the police to arrest 3 guys, who despite being warned, were blatantly selling dog meat.

    But what can you expect from these law enforcers who are mostly dog eaters?

    This is the reason why animal welfare advocates, think thrice before enlisting the assistance of the Cordillera based law enforcers for the raid and apprehension of the dog meat traders. It is a sad fact, that aside from PAL which taps the CIDG, others prefer the assistance of law enforcers outside of the Cordillera, which makes the entire process very costly.

    But raid, apprehension, and the arrest of the offenders is the easiest part of the whole process of stopping the trade.

    Freddie Farres, Executive of Linis Gobyerno said, that that battle starts after the apprehension and arrest. There are the recovered dogs that should be attended to, and there are cases that should be handled by competent lawyers so that the violators will be meted with the suited maximum penalty.

    While PAL has turned over its recovered dogs to the City Pound, Farres expressed his dismay on how these dogs were handled, as the mortality rate is a whooping  85%. Another group, the Animal Kingdom Foundation (in which Wartenberg of IWC also belongs), has claimed to have brought the dogs they recovered to as far as Manila City Pound. The court responsible for the case was never informed of the status of the dogs. Maybe because the court never asked. In some apprehensions, there were no mention of where the recovered live dogs were turned over.

    And while the law enforcers were left in the cold by the NGOs for the prosecution, the City Veterinary’s Office (handling the Dog Pound) was also left with the burden of handling the recovered dogs.

Dog adoption

    Dog adoption was never heard of in Baguio City and the Cordilleras until the end of last year, when the City Veterinary’s Office started adopting out some of the dogs that were turned over to them by PAL and the law enforcers. Of the 389 dogs in their custody, 10% or 38 dogs were said to be subjected for adoption.

    According to the City Veterinarian, Dr. Brigit Piok, the adopter is required  to pay an amount of P390 for the dog’s complete vaccination (Distemper, Hepatitis Parvo-Leptospirosis [DH2 PL] and Canine Parvo Virus [CPV]). Anti-Rabies is also being given for free. In a private clinic, DH2 PL + CPV costs P350, or P40 less than what the City Vet. Charges.

    But there appears to be a discrepancy in the amount which was said by the City Vet that they are charging and the amount which the adopters claim to have paid. In a research conducted by The Junction (in coordination with Linis Gobyerno), those adopters from the Slaughterhouse compound admitted having paid a meager amount of P60. Others claim to have paid P200-390. All of them however, thought that what was given to their adopted dogs are just Anti-Rabies. Apparently, the other shots were not explained to them.

    And while the adopters were made to sign an adoption agreement, it appears that only 2 of them complied with the terms and conditions of the adoption. One of the conditions is for the adopter to take good care of the animal and to treat it as their own pet and shall subject it for periodic inspection by any authorized representative of the City Veterinary Office. However, based on the research, it appears that the adopters themselves did not treat the adopted dogs as their own pets, because 4 dogs have died, and 2 were sold. There is also one adopter who, according to his neighbors, allegedly slaughtered the dog and ate it although he did not confirm nor deny the allegations. He however cannot give a straight answer when he was asked about the whereabouts of the dog. As to the  “periodic inspection” as stated in the agreement, it can be recalled that in an interview conducted earlier, Dr. Piok openly admitted that they do not conduct post adoption monitoring. The adopters also confirmed this by saying that no one from the City Vet, or from the PAL ever visited the dogs.

    The agreement further states that the ownership of the animal shall remain under the adopter’s name and shall not be removed or transferred without written permission from the City Veterinarian, which is again another agreement only in paper because some of the adopters claim that the dogs they adopted were brought to their respective provinces, but the exact addresses were not given. It is also a question how the ownership can be legally transferred as the dogs are not registered and are not tagged. The agreement also states that, the adopter shall report immediately to the City Veterinary’s Office once the animal gets sick or dies. Based on the research, 4 adopted dogs died, 1 escaped but these were not reported. The other 21 dogs were not seen since some of the adopters are either not in their respective residences at the time of the interview or are no longer residing in the stated addresses. The neighbors of 10 adopters who are not at their respective residences, however said that they have seen no signs of dogs at the residences of the adopters.

    Only one was seen to have a doghouse.

    Out of the 38 dogs only 3 are confirmed to be alive and in good condition. These were adopted by a Korean couple, Sung Soo Lee and Huh Hee Kyung, and an elderly, Flora Armas of Loakan.

    As it is, the dog adoption program of the City Veterinary’s Office needs a lot of improvement mainly procedures and implementation.

    It is believed that the adoption program of the City Veterinary’s Office is an offshoot of the case filed by Linis Gobyerno against the Director of International Wildlife Coalition (IWC) in United Kingdom, a certain Charles Wartenberg, when he together with his cohorts “put down” or killed the recovered dogs thru euthanasia. R.A. 8485 is specific that the killing of dogs is allowed under certain conditions, but it should be done through the use of most scientific methods available as may be determined by the Committee on Animal Welfare. To date, the committee has not set the standard said “most scientific” method of killing the dogs.

    It is also observed that based on the summary provided by the City Veterinary’s Office the recovered dogs in the year 2000 and 2001 were not reflected. Court records show that in the year 2000, at least 5 dogs were turned over by PAL to the dog pound. As to how those dogs were disposed off, is still not clear, as they were not accounted for.

http://www.linisgobyerno.org/dog_meat_trad...uio_city_an.htm



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Dog-eating and my culture
by Bing A Dawang

JUST before World Animal Day, which coincides with the feast of St. Francis d'Assisi, the patron saint of animals, a local (USA) newspaper defended the dog meat trade in the Philippines, in particular in Baguio City and the Cordilleras, by claiming that dog eating is a part of the Igorot indigenous culture.

As a full-blooded Igorot, I take offence.

The newspaper quoted Isikias Isican, said to be curator of the St. Louis University museum, as saying that there is a clear cultural basis for butchering dogs because they were "butchered by Igorot tribes before going to war, or to cure certain afflictions."

Isican generalized that dog-eating is a part of Igorot tradition by recalling that in 1904 a few Igorot men and women were displayed at the Louisiana Purchase Exhibition ("world's fair") in St Louis, Missouri. Described as heathen Pagans, they butchered a dog as part of the show.

In the same article Hanzen Binay, formerly defence counsel for several dog meat traders and now a Benguet prosecutor, questioned the wisdom of the Philippine Animal Welfare Act. Stating that the law was supported by British animal advocates, Binay asked rhetorically why Britain does not respect the Igorot culture.

As an Igorot, I vehemently do not accept dog eating as my culture. I was not raised to eat dogs. Dog meat is not a part of my diet, nor has it ever been. I find it insulting that Igorots are branded as dog-eaters, not only in the Philippines but abroad. It is a shame, and because Igorots are Filipinos, dog-eating is a Philippine national shame.

It is true that in ancient times some Igorot tribes butchered their dogs before going to war. It was the belief of the then Pagan Igorot that the spirits of the sacrificed dogs would guard them in battle.

In times of tragedy, the family dog might also have been sacrificed to appease the spirits, and to assign the soul of the dog to guard the spirits of the living family members.

Dog sacrifice always connoted bad luck, tragedy, or death. When a family butchered a dog, which had to be the family dog, not just any dog bought from nowhere, the family was not feasting but was either mourning, in extreme pain, or involved in some other activity connected with death.

Dogs were not butchered as drunkards' fare, nor as a daily or regular part of the Igorot diet. Igorot families much preferred to avoid the circumstances which might lead them to sacrifice their dog.

Dog sacrifice for religious purposes is allowed under the Philippine Animal Welfare Act. But the act also requires that dog sacrifices must be recorded and reported. Five years after the law was passed, the Bureau of Animal Industry has yet to receive any such reports from the Igorot elders.

Igorot culture has greatly changed since 1904. Headhunting, for example, was also part of the Igorot culture and way of life 100 years ago. We now recognise and reject that practice as murder (would Isikias Isican expect this 'tradition' also to be 'respected'?). This is adaptation. This is cultural evolution. We discard bad customs and traditions, and adopt good ones from other cultures and as an Igorot, a Filipino, a law-abiding citizen, and a lover of dogs, if I see anyone butchering and selling dogs for meat, I will not hesitate to bring criminal charges.

Incidentally, anyone who believes that the Philippine Animal Welfare Act was passed chiefly through the lobbying of British citizens, or Americans, or members of any nationality other than Filipino is misinformed. Foreigners helped, but most of the work was done by Filippinos, represented by Philippine groups, including the Philippine Animal Welfare Society, reorganized in 1986 by Nita Hontiveros-Lichauco, and the Philippine SPCA, formed on December 13, 1904 (the year of the Louisiana Purchase Exposition), now headed by Edgardo Aldaba.

We have in common, besides our cause, one hero: the dog Dagul, an askal, whose kind are commonly captured and butchered. Dagul, however, was adopted by Wilmar Castillo and family. Dagul rewarded their compassion in May 2003 when he alerted Wilmar Castillo to an avalanche of mud just in time to save the young man's life.

Honoured with the Lewyt Award for Compassionate and Heroic Animals, as described in the September 2003 edition of ANIMAL PEOPLE, Dagul and Wilmar Castillo demonstrated the relationship that we believe should exist among humans and dogs. Kindness toward dogs and other creatures is fundamental to my culture.

Bing A Dawang is editor of The Junction regional newspaper and is a founding officer of Linis Gobyerno Inc, Baguio City, Philippines.
http://www.k9magazinefree.com/k9_perspective/iss16p3.shtml


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I turned my suspicion towards the tricycle drivers, who hang out at the little bakery across the street from our house. It’s easy to suspect them, because they are never very friendly. These guys always struck me as a lower breed, perhaps lower than dogs. I recalled a jarring scene several weeks before when I saw some guys out catching dogs late one night on Sucat Rd., the main road which leads to our subdivision. I was driving by at about two in the morning on my way home. I heard the awful yelp of a dog, and quickly turned my head towards the cry. I saw a mangy brown mutt being scooped up inside a tricycle.
Of course, I couldn’t have stormed over to the bakery and accused the trike drivers of taking Shiggy as they would simply have denied it. But I vowed never to buy any food from the bakery anymore. Some of the neighbors were hanging outside their homes and I asked them if they saw anything. They all shook their heads. But the old lady across the street assured me that our dog was alive.
“No, no, they didn’t kill your dog,” she said. “Pure breeds are not very good to eat. They make you hot inside when you eat them. If you’re going to eat a dog, it has to be a street dog. So don’t worry. I don’t think they ate your dog. They probably sold it for P500.” Gee, how wonderful, I thought. Thanks Grandmom. I could smell cooking food wafting out of her kitchen and I excused myself before she decided to invite me to dinner.
http://www.hey-joe.net/excerpt03.html


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http://www.hey-joe.net/excerpt03.html]http://www.hey-joe.net/excerpt03.html
Yeh, I know. I should try being a dog in the Philippines and see how I like it. I should try sleeping in somebody’s dirty, mosquito infested car park night in and night out. I should try living with vermin like mice and endless parades of cockroaches and blood sucking ticks. I should try existing in a world where some of the big creatures think my flesh goes quite well with San Miguel Beer. I have thought about all that and, well, it doesn’t sway me. Every time I have tried to feel empathy and sympathy for a Philippine dog the emotion just dissipates. Probably had to go earn a living or something important like that.



ejay1, your hipocrisy and ignorance....

Are you Anti-Pinoy

no. I have philipino friends.
hgnis
I do not believe that asian people are the only dog eaters - there are worse things that a person can eat. Though it has been my experience that of asians, mainly Chinese people eat dogs.
777
QUOTE (hgnis @ May 30 2004, 09:50 AM)
I do not believe that asian people are the only dog eaters - there are worse things that a person can eat. Though it has been my experience that of asians, mainly Chinese people eat dogs.

You are one ignorant fcuk. Do you even know one Chinese person who eats dogs? That's just a racist stereotype of Whites who see different Asian people eating dogs. Since Chinese is the generic Asian, if an American in the Philippines sees you guys eating dogs, he reports it in the U.S. as "Chinese people eat dogs."
There are people who eat dogs in China, but they account like 1% of the population. You Filipinos prolly eat dogs more...I'm sick of you people deflecting everything on other other Asian while making belief that you guys are some sort of saints descended from Spaniards...
annoying as fcuk
tool666
QUOTE (777 @ May 30 2004, 10:57 AM)
QUOTE (hgnis @ May 30 2004, 09:50 AM)
I do not believe that asian people are the only dog eaters - there are worse things that a person can eat. Though it has been my experience that of asians, mainly Chinese people eat dogs.

You are one ignorant fcuk. Do you even know one Chinese person who eats dogs? That's just a racist stereotype of Whites who see different Asian people eating dogs. Since Chinese is the generic Asian, if an American in the Philippines sees you guys eating dogs, he reports it in the U.S. as "Chinese people eat dogs."
There are people who eat dogs in China, but they account like 1% of the population. You Filipinos prolly eat dogs more...I'm sick of you people deflecting everything on other other Asian while making belief that you guys are some sort of saints descended from Spaniards...
annoying as fcuk

Well said.
JMAC
QUOTE (777 @ May 30 2004, 11:57 AM)
QUOTE (hgnis @ May 30 2004, 09:50 AM)
I do not believe that asian people are the only dog eaters - there are worse things that a person can eat. Though it has been my experience that of asians, mainly Chinese people eat dogs.

You are one ignorant fcuk. Do you even know one Chinese person who eats dogs? That's just a racist stereotype of Whites who see different Asian people eating dogs. Since Chinese is the generic Asian, if an American in the Philippines sees you guys eating dogs, he reports it in the U.S. as "Chinese people eat dogs."
There are people who eat dogs in China, but they account like 1% of the population. You Filipinos prolly eat dogs more...I'm sick of you people deflecting everything on other other Asian while making belief that you guys are some sort of saints descended from Spaniards...
annoying as fcuk

Haha, so who's the ignorant fu-ck now saying we probably eat more dogs? Do you have statistics to prove it? You're the idiot here who's starting to generalize us, so shut the fu-ck up! Do you even know that hgnis is not a Filipino???? DUH! You're so quick to past judgement and bash Filipinos without even thinking, pathetic fool!

You could've easily responded to hgnis' claim without even mentioning one generalization. Gee, I wonder who's the annoying fu-ck now.... sure.gif
dalawapo
QUOTE (JMAC @ May 29 2004, 11:39 PM)
1. So does for me and other countless Filipinos, its just over there guys that usually drink with their buddies are somewhat hardcore(few of my uncles were) and they see dogs as a manly(or some reason like that) animal to eat sure.gif we had pet dogs but they dont roast them or anything, we love our pets as much as you love your pets. You'll have to be over there to better understand.

2. Im not promoting anything, I've tasted it a couple of times, I was 8 or something and curious, I tasted a couple of strips as they didnt wanna give me a meal, my grandma and aunts usually condemns me from eating it and being around my drunk uncles and their friends at night. sure.gif I had the exact same mentality as yours when I first found out like "noo, why eat a doggie??". No, Im not gonna eat it on a regular basis if it was available to me because I dont feel comfortable eating it. And they DONT sell dog meat over there since its not approved by the general population. Only would be macho har har dudes are extreme enough to do it. Even there its controversial believe or not. sure.gif

3. sure.gif

4. Sureee, back in your mind your probably like "eeeewwwwww!!!! ur grosss!!" embarassedlaugh.gif

5. Smell? sure.gif like normal meat I guess. As far as I can remember the meat was quite tough and hot...taste? I guess it depends on how you cook them.


I dont really see any reasons why to hide this issue...

awwh don't be givin me " sure.gif " jmac icon_sad.gif i sorryy!! cry2.gif

icon_redface.gif lol
Hakka
Is there something fundamentally bad about eating dogs that does not exist with eating a pig?
dalawapo
hakka have u ever eaten someone confused.gif
Hakka
I've eaten dog if thats what you mean,
however if you are putting a dog above a pig then I would have to disagree with you.
BatangDamo
ignore this topic, "tool666" a.k.a. "putangina_mo" are just starting some nonsense topics with its anti-Filipino remarks.....
redhotchili
QUOTE (777 @ May 30 2004, 11:57 PM)
There are people who eat dogs in China, but they account like 1% of the population. You Filipinos prolly eat dogs more...I'm sick of you people deflecting everything on other other Asian while making belief that you guys are some sort of saints descended from Spaniards...
annoying as fcuk

china's population is approximately 1.3 billion. 1% of that is 13M. the national capital region's (the region that includes manila and the surrounding citites) population is 9M. i don't think this 9M people eat dogs. the northern provinces' population is 15M. i can assure you that less than 13M eat dogs there.

and no, contrary to popular beliefs, we filipinos don't think that we are some sort of saints descended from spaniards. i discovered only a few years ago (3 i think) that i have spanish blood. now, do i make a big deal about it? no. it doesn't make a difference. i'm more of an asian than a spanish. i have a spanish middle name but it's no big deal. many filipinos don't speak spanish nor even want to learn the language.

saying that filipinos "prolly eat dogs more" is as ludicrous as saying that chinese or korean or japanese "prolly eat dogs more" most especially if these claims are generalizations.

yes filipinos eat dogs. but not all. again, i've tasted dogmeat but i don't eat dogs in a regular basis. i've only tasted it once. i have a chinese friend who's also tasted dogmeat but he doesn't eat dogs.
kim_kayie
just try to promote not to eat dogs....
man... these are such great creatures...
i love them...
Butterfly
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just try to promote not to eat dogs....
man... these are such great creatures...
i love them... 


Some love them more than you.. Does the fraise" I love him/her so much I could just eat her/him up!!" it happens embarassedlaugh.gif

I honestly don’t see the huge deal with who does or doesn’t eat dog..
Chill out there ARE worse things you can eat.. I herd in some places in England (correct me if I am wrong about the location)
they eat pig balls.. PIG BALLS I rather eat dog than that... pukeface.gif
JMAC
What do expect from these claims there are some demented racist idiots like 777 here...and idiots like tool666 who claims not to be anti-Filipino, what a load of turd! Look at every Filipino bashing he says...another idiotic nationalist, oh please....
poknat
Yes, That is what we call cyber crime.......

By the way it is not endemic to the Philippines that dog eating is also popular in China, Korea ,Thailand and Vietnam!
Shakti
QUOTE (poknat @ Jun 1 2004, 06:58 PM)
Yes, That is what we call cyber crime.......

By the way it is not endemic to the Philippines that dog eating is also popular in China, Korea ,Thailand and Vietnam!

Oo nga! I agree
dalawapo
QUOTE (Shakti @ Jun 2 2004, 03:52 AM)
Oo nga! I agree

im confused bishojou, what do you agree with, online crime or eating dogs? confused.gif
Shakti
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Jun 2 2004, 04:24 AM)
QUOTE (Shakti @ Jun 2 2004, 03:52 AM)
Oo nga! I agree

im confused bishojou, what do you agree with, online crime or eating dogs? confused.gif

eating dogs is endemic here my grandma eats it
Butterfly
what about horses? We eat Horse in PuertoRico (not as common as it used to be though).. its called "carnevieja" and I have no problem with it, I used to eat it when I was little. I am sure some of you might find that as repulsive as eating dog meat but to me it’s not a big deal.

I think the issue is here is people feeling shamed or made to feel shamed for something like a food they eat. Eating dog isn’t a joke or something to be made fun of, in different cultures are different diets and taboos so we have to tolerate them and be accepting to a certain extent

but seriously if your gonna go off on something... PIG BALLS? grouse...
embarassedlaugh.gif
purnomor
Do people eat insects in the Philippines..?
Butterfly
QUOTE (purnomor @ Jun 2 2004, 02:34 PM)
Do people eat insects in the Philippines..?

I dont know but i know they do in the USA (not all, just a small few but they do)
holamon
QUOTE (Butterfly @ Jun 2 2004, 01:12 PM)
what about horses? We eat Horse in PuertoRico (not as common as it used to be though).. its called "carnevieja" and I have no problem with it, I used to eat it when I was little. I am sure some of you might find that as repulsive as eating dog meat but to me it’s not a big deal.

I think the issue is here is people feeling shamed or made to feel shamed for something like a food they eat. Eating dog isn’t a joke or something to be made fun of, in different cultures are different diets and taboos so we have to tolerate them and be accepting to a certain extent

but seriously if your gonna go off on something... PIG BALLS? grouse...
embarassedlaugh.gif

FYI, some Americans eat cow balls. They call it Rocky Mountain Oysters. Below is a link to the recipe for how to cook it. Bon appetit icon_wink.gif

Rocky Mountain Oyster Recipe

BTW, I have also eaten horse meat. It was introduced by the French colonists.

Anyway, regarding people's comments about loving dogs. I am sure both sides (non-dog eaters vs. dog eaters) love dogs. It's just that they love them in a different way icon_smile.gif .
BatangDamo
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 2 2004, 03:40 PM)
QUOTE (Butterfly @ Jun 2 2004, 01:12 PM)
what about horses? We eat Horse in PuertoRico (not as common as it used to be though).. its called "carnevieja" and I have no problem with it, I used to eat it when I was little. I am sure some of you might find that as repulsive as eating dog meat but to me it’s not a big deal.

I think the issue is here is people feeling shamed or made to feel shamed for something like a food they eat. Eating dog isn’t a joke or something to be made fun of, in different cultures are different diets and taboos so we have to tolerate them and be accepting to a certain extent

but seriously if your gonna go off on something... PIG BALLS? grouse...
embarassedlaugh.gif

FYI, some Americans eat cow balls. They call it Rocky Mountain Oysters. Below is a link to the recipe for how to cook it. Bon appetit icon_wink.gif

Rocky Mountain Oyster Recipe

BTW, I have also eaten horse meat. It was introduced by the French colonists.

Anyway, regarding people's comments about loving dogs. I am sure both sides (non-dog eaters vs. dog eaters) love dogs. It's just that they love them in a different way icon_smile.gif .

weird, somehow i agree...
Kewell7
QUOTE (poknat @ Jun 1 2004, 06:58 PM)
Yes, That is what we call cyber crime.......

By the way it is not endemic to the Philippines that dog eating is also popular in China, Korea ,Thailand and Vietnam!

Sorry, but dog eating is not popular in Thailand.
Ek-ek
QUOTE (purnomor @ Jun 3 2004, 03:34 AM)
Do people eat insects in the Philippines..?

embarassedlaugh.gif Hold it, One at a time


kiss.gif In some parts of the Philippines people eat horses , according to them is is comparable to chicken but they never tired eating the horses which were used in race because of the residue of the medicines and hormones that have been injected .

love2.gif In Pampanga, A province North of Manila they have several insect cuisine ranging from fried crickets, to beetles.

icon_rolleyes.gif Another one is some worms in mangrove in Palawan were the native Tagbanua were eating them

beerchug.gif
The first picture is a cricket , which is quite popular in most provinces

The second one is a katylid insect
Crawling Cuisine
Are mealworms the tofu of the new millennium?
By Maria Bennett


I was always a strange child. At about age 6 or so, starved for the approval of my peers, I accepted Patty Figler's challenge to eat a chocolate-covered ant and a roasted bee, procured at the local John Wanamaker's gourmet food area. Both ants and bees came packaged in tiny silver cans, and probably cost more than a year's allowance, but Figler and her friends persevered in their request that I consume one of each of these small members of the great chain of life. At the appointed hour, on my birthday, the posse arrived, cans of bugs in hand. They watched; I crunched. And all that remains of the memory is the chocolatiness of the ant and the salty, potato-chip crispiness of the bee.

Did the act ensure my position as alpha female in the hierarchy of this bunch of lower-class, ragtag ragazzi? Not quite. Entomophagy -- referred to in impolite circles as "bug eatin'" -- isn't exactly the scoop du jour for Marion Burros or Jane Brody in Wednesday's New York Times.

In a switch of the Darwinian model, I suppose that most of us would rather be eaten by bugs (think of a walk through the woods in summer) than eat them ourselves. But the fact remains that insects have traditionally offered an astounding amount of food value to homo sapiens unfettered by cultural taboos, or what David Gordon refers to as "the ick factor." In a recent interview with USA Today, the naturalist and author of The Eat A Bug Cookbook (Ten Speed Press) places bug eating in its proper context: "What we eat is something that we pick up at a certain age from parents and friends. It's learned behavior. If you can gobble a lobster, a notorious bottom-feeder, why not one of its cleaner, land-based cousins? And who said beef tongue or pig knuckles are a pretty sight?"

The food historian Waverly Root reminds us in Food that the crickets in Thailand and Oaxaca, Mexico, are the "most luscious of all," and the granddaddy of entomophagy, Vincent M. Holt, pointed out in 1885 that "insects are by far a more wholesome and less tainted source of food value, as they live entirely on vegetable matter," in his book, Why Not Eat Insects?

Famous bug eaters in history include the French astronomer Lelande, who ate spiders (which aren't really bugs, but arachnids); Mohammed, whose wives used to send him trays of locusts as presents; and John the Baptist, who is said to have chowed down on a meal or two of locusts as well, albeit with a sauce of wild honey. Curiously, locusts -- unlike other insects -- are kosher, according to Leviticus 11:22, where they're OK'd along with grasshoppers as decent sources of nourishment.

Our Eurocentrism becomes apparent when we go down the list of societies where crawling cuisine is more traditional: Peruvians collect dryopoid beetles to be ground and used as peppery sauce; Mexicans in Guerrero eat stinkbugs, which are said to taste like mint or cinnamon; and throughout Africa, beetle grubs and caterpillars are a common repast. In the Philippines, a stir-fry of katydids, dragonfly larvae and greens keeps hunger at bay, and celebrations in Papua, New Guinea, demand sago grubs and giant waterbugs roasted over an open fire. (According to entomologists, roasting brings out the flavor of most bugs). According to Bizarre magazine, the Chinese eat insects for virility and Aussies favor Oecophylla (ants to you and me, mate) when they're out in the bush. They bite off their abdomens, which allegedly taste sweet and tart and are thirst-quenching. And, finally, there's Gustavo F. Morejon of the Wildlife Monitoring Project of Cuenca, Ecuador, who waxes rhapsodic over a recent dish of white beetles, courtesy of the University of Kentucky's entomology Web site (<http://www. uky.edu>): "Beetles cooked with pork meat and vegetables! Wonderful, tasty, and amazing!" Well, I guess if they were good enough for Mighty Joe Young...


Closer to home, many entomologists are serious about the potential of insects to nourish a planet already straining under the load of overpopulation, and the Web site <http://www.eatbug.com> is a vehicle for some very compelling statistics on edible insects. For example: 100 grams of crickets contain 121 calories, 12.9 grams of protein, 5.5 grams of fat, 5.1 grams of carbohydrates, and more iron and calcium than most meats. Before you cackle, be aware that the same size portion of ground beef weighs in with 288.2 calories and 21.2 grams of fat (though 23.5 grams of protein). And pound for pound, the giant water beetle beats 'em all in the nutritious-but-not-entirely-delicious category, with 19.8 grams of protein, 43.5 grams of calcium, and 13.6 grams of iron per serving. (Just how one calculates a serving size of beetle, I'm not sure).

A whole heap less costly than your average Porterhouse, they require less land or feed to raise than livestock and, maybe more important, according to entomologists at Ohio State University, U.S. farmers could use much less pesticide each year if people could tolerate the idea of an apple with a worm inside, or a beetle bite or two taken out of their head of cabbage.




Most of us consume a pound or two of insects a year, but ground up into our peanut butter, jam, spaghetti sauce or other processed comestibles. And the critters make those foods more nutritious, whether or not we're aware of them. A recent issue of the Food Insects Newsletter states that 80 percent of the world eats insects intentionally, and 100 percent consume them unintentionally, so I guess we're going to have to take a new look at the gustatory possibilities inherent in our flying and crawling friends.

Did you know, for example, that Louis Armstrong used to drink a homemade brew of boiled cockroaches to help soothe the sore throats that plagued the raspy-voiced singer? Or that at last year's gathering of the Young Entomologists Society at the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens, the best-seller in the house was the Cricket Pop, a $1.39 candy, crème-de-menthe flavored, with a whole cricket inside? Kids are, naturally, kind of curious about the whole issue, and an actual lesson for a 4-H Club on entomophagy was recently planned by Stephanie Bailey, entomology extension specialist at the University of Kentucky, right down to the gory details of cleaning and preparing the requisite mealworms, crickets and beetles readily available from the local bait and tackle shop. (Crickets must be placed in the refrigerator immediately to slow them down, and mealworms must be cooked or frozen as soon as possible.) The kids then could dry-roast them and use them in any recipe calling for nuts, such as crispy critter treats (like Rice Krispy squares). There's also banana worm bread, with the usual recipe adding 1/4 cup dry-roasted army worms, and rootworm beetle dip, made with cottage cheese, lemon, mayo and 1 cup roasted beetles. If that's not enough to pique Junior's interest, then just turn to the April issue of Star Wars Kids, featuring "Bugs for Dinner," a piece chock full of information, such as where a kid can buy grubs (Carolina Biological Supplies) or the preferred way to prepare waxworm (in a popcorn popper, rendering it a taste treat similar to "honey and almonds.")

For the gourmet element, Louis Sorkin, entomologist at the American Museum of Natural History, recommends the fare served at the 100th anniversary of the American Entomological Society's soiree: "Thai water beetle tasted of citronelle, the waxworm grubs were butterflied and grilled, as meaty as bacon, and the crickets in hot pepper were really tasty." Prepared by the capo di tutti capi of entomology, Gene DeFoliart of the University of Wisconsin, the meal was a great success, and DeFoliart feels that the tangy, roasted honey bee may replace your customary bag of Fritos any day now. In his discussion of the celebration, however, Sorkin mentions a fact that is important to note: Allergies to bugs can mirror allergies to shellfish and the like, so if you have trouble with shrimp, be careful around those mealworms. And the No. 1 bug allergy is Lepidopteran (moths or butterflies), so watch those larvae, too.


If this all seems a bit academic for you, there's always the "fringe element" in the world of bugfood, to wit: the growing number of Web sites and groups devoted to "Primitive Living Skills," which may seem a bit like survivalist training grounds for the next Ted Kaczynski. There's Zachary Huang's Bug Eating Page, where the joys of live honey bee larvae consumption are extolled, and Barbara Bonga's Survival Bible of an Edible World, where Bonga, the drummer for a band called Maximus, offers counterculture tips on insect eating for the grunge generation: "Hey, when you're on the road, there's not always a BK around. But even if there's nothing to eat, you're just not seeing what's in front of you. I mean, a couple of locusts, a beetle or two, and you've got yourself a protein-rich meal. And there's no beating the flavor."

Whether this culinary trend signals a movement toward a more eco-conscious zeitgeist or a de-evolutionary step back toward the caveman, I'm not sure. But the last word on the topic comes from, quite rightly, a chef. Mark Filippo of Café Meze in Hartsdale, N.Y., who's not exactly revving up the menu yet for curried dragonfly soup or sonoran centipede stew (don't forget to snip off the poisonous jaws before cooking), puts it this way: "James Beard said that we have to experience all kinds of culinary sensations, so he went into the Himalayas, cracked open a lamb's head and ate the brains raw. But I'm still trying to get my son to touch calamari. I really can't knock someone who eats bugs. For me, though, I don't know enough about it to feel comfortable eating bugs. I guess I don't need to experience that right now."

I'm with Filippo. But for those of you adventuresome souls who are ready to try BugMan David Gordon's larval latkes (recipe available in his Eat-A-Bug Cookbook), just remember this bit of dining etiquette: only serve Pinot Gris with your insects. According to Gordon, it's the only suitable wine for crawling critters!

beerchug.gif Another article about insect eating!
In the Philippines, local press coverage of locust control efforts ..spraying and/or eating

Bill Shyne of Honolulu participated in a medical/dental project in the Philippines (mostly in rural areas) during July and August 1994. While there he clipped several articles from Manila newspapers which he later sent to us. They describe efforts to combat a destructive locust invasion. As insecticides were not successful, a movement began in some areas, apparently partly farmer instigated and partly government instigated, to harvest the insects for sale, both as food for people and as animal feed. We seldom get such a good glimpse of the local reaction to a problem in other countries, so we decided to reprint nearly the whole bundle that Dr. Shyne sent. The first article, dated July 7 and apparently the last in a series begun earlier, contained more good detailed information on the taxonomy, biology and ecology of short-horned grasshoppers (Family Acrididae) than we have seen for an insect group in a long time in a newspaper. Unfortunately, because of space constraints, we had to delete those sections of the article.

From the Philippine Daily Inquirer, Manila, July 7, 1994:
Special Report: Queen Locust? What's that again?
By Felix Zamora, Jr. (Conculsion)

The migratory locust species seen in the Philippines infesting vegetation through the country is the Locusta migratoria which has a wide distribution ranging through most of Africa, Europe, Asia, Oceania, Australia and New Zealand. The average adult measures up to five cm long, may either be yellowish or grayish in its migratory form, can fly high, and as far as 2,000 km non-stop. .

...Farmers aided by entomologists have been fighting locust how infestations with toxic chemical pesticides to no avail. In most cases overall costs of operations from the onset of the locust infestation until it subsides generally exceed that of crop damage sought to be saved. On the whole, only the pesticide manufacturers profit from the recurring exercise,

So what's the alternative? When hordes of locusts descend from flight and devour food crops, farmers may wind up with nothing to eat but the invaders. So, why poison them, as well as the crop, the environment, and farmers themselves? Why not look at them as manna from heaven?

Modem practical farmers who have turned their attention toward locusts as food and feed supplements now use commercially available nets to catch swarms. These insect nets are now used to provide protective cover nets over high value raw crops, thereby eliminating the need for insecticides. These lightweight insect nets are made of knitted and lock stitched, ultraviolet stabilized, white, high- density polyethylene. They are supplied in mesh size 24x24 per square inch, standard width of 3.6 meters by 100 meters length per roll weighing 27 kg.

These nets can be made wider and longer by simply stitching them on the sides and edges with fine polyethylene monofilament. They can be tied perpendicularly to long and lightweight boho poles to
hold them upright and be moved across fields even by young people. Stored properly after use, the nets would last for years.

From the Philippine Daily Inquirer, appently also July 7, 1994:
DA Taken by Surprise: Locusts invade, by Art Sampana:

Jesus De Guzman, provincial agriculture officer, said the attack took the residents by surprise, and the DA office was not able to immediately mobilize its personnel and insecticide equipment.

Locusts destroyed a sitaw (strngbeans) plantation in Barangay Maysilao Monday afternoon. When the DA personnel arrived the following day, the swarm had proceeded to nearby Barangay San Miguel. The insects attacked a ricefield at Sitio Malindig, destroying three-week-old palay. They went on to Sitio Dangga, wreaking havoc on coconut trees.

The agricultural workers were able to catch up with the locusts at a nearby livestock and poultry farm. But DeGuzman said the farm owner, Letty Go, prevented them from spraying the compound for fear that the chemicals would affect the 30,000 chickens and herds of cows at the compound. " All we could do was to gather as many locusts as we can, then we cooked and ate them," De Guzman said.

In Nueva Eciija, the provincial board appropriated an additional P70,000 to pay for locusts caught by residents of affected towns. Vice Gov. Oscar Tinio said the amount was in addition to the P50,000 allocated last month for locust control. He said swarms of locusts had descended on the towns of San Antonio and Cabiao.

One control measure recommended was catching the locusts with the use of nets. The provincial government has asked the local DA office to work out a system of buying the catch and determine how much should be paid to sellers. Locusts are selling like hotcakes in San Antonio where the insects are considered a gourmet's delight. The are sold at P30 a kilo.

Reports said locusts have been wreaking havoc on bamboo trees and vegetable crops in San Antonio and Cabiao. Fanners in the two towns have been guarding their growing rice crops against locust attacks. Provincial officials believe the swarms of locusts that descended on the two Nueva Ecija towns came from Pampagna, Tarlac and Zambales, where the monsoon rains must have disturbed the insects and prompted them to go elsewhere.

From the Star Daily, July 10 (PNA):
Locust: special dish

San Fernando, Pampanga --Locusts have been accepted in Pampanga as a palatable special dish, cooked "adobo" style.

But, some enterprising people recently discovered that the destructive insects, which continue to plunder vast tracts of sugarcane fields and vegetation in Pampanga and Zambales, can be a rich source of nutritious supplemental feeding for animals and fish, including fighting cocks.
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A cattle raiser form Angeles city said that his cows gained weight rapidly since feeding them feeds mixed with grinded dried locusts about two months ago. The local rancher said he buys locusts (not those killed by pesticide) from residents who have been catching the migratory insects by net at P50 per sack.

Several backyard " tilapia " raisers from Tarlac also swore that grated locust meat proves to be a real booster to the growth of the fishcrop. They also found out that fish fed with locust dried meat tastes better and more palatable than those being nourished by ordinary commercial feeds.

A local fightcock breeder said many of his rare breed of game fowl became even much fiercer and always in "fighting mood" after giving them a small amount of locust dried meat. He said one of his cocks won unscratched in a five-c@ck derby after it was fed a spoonful of the insect meat a few hours before the cockfight.

Dr. Erlino Mercado. chief of the research division of the Department of Agriculture in Central Luzon. is currently undertaking an in- depth study on how the locust meat. which reportedly has a high 17.5 percent protein. can be fully utilized for productive uses on a large- scale commercial basis. Mercado. who recently returned from the United States where he finished his doctorate degree in agricultural engineering. said the lack of community involvement of some local government officials is greatly hampering the campaign against the locust infestation. which is fast becoming a perennial problem in Central Luzon. (PNA)

From newspaper unknown, date uncertain but may be luly 10, 1994 (PAJ News Service): Locust adobo, anyone?

If one can't lick them, eat them! This is one of the strategies being popularized by the locust task force in Zambales to control and bring down the locust population. The task force is sponsoring a province- wide "locust cooking contest" among housewives with corresponding prizes. according to Dr. Renato Bulay. Department of Agriculture Region III director .

In effect. the cooking contest will generate various recipes and preparations to make locusts more "attractive" and palatable to non- eaters. It is hoped that demand for locusts for food would increase and thus encourage farmers and their families to gather locust manually using nets rather than spraying them with chemicals.

A popular delicacy among Ilocanos is locust adobo. lt is prepared by detaching the wings and feet, boiling the "dressed" brown grasshoppers in water for a few minutes, and then frying them in oil. The resulting crisp locusts can be served with tomatoes, local red onions (lasona) and bagoong.

Locust is rich in protein, according to laboratory analysis. With 13.7 percent protein content, locusts can very well be used as feed for livestock and fish. In fact, Bulay said a number of farmers in Pampanga are now using chopped, dried locusts as feed for hito, broilers and cattle.
Meanwhile, in a report to Agriculture Secretary Roberto S. Sebas- tian, Bulay noted that locust infestation is starting to wane due to sustained chemical spraying and manual control activities. Further- more, the rains have washed away a considerable amount of locusts eggs. nymphs and hoppers, added Bulay.

As of mid-July .total locust affected area of 5.330 hectares is down to merely seven percent or about 349 hectares spread over in 28 barangays in Pampanga (224.5 hectares). Zambales (78 hectares) and Tarlac (46.50 hectares ). To date. Bataan is considered a locust- free area.

From the Philippine Daily Inquirer, July 24.

A photo showing swarming locusts, captioned: Outnumbered. A fanner fights a swarm of locusts with a mixture ~ from a jet spray at a heavily infested field in Barangay Lawang Cupang, San Antonio, Nueva Ecija. Some fanners have resorted to eating the locusts, a local delicacy called balang, but to no avail.

The only thing we saw or heard about all of this in the U .S .press was in our own local paper, The Capital Times, July 23-24, a photo captioned: Luscious locusts. Children playfully catch locusts Friday in Tarlac, Philippines. Locusts have been destroying crops on the country's Central Luzon island since last year, and the government seems helpless in eradicating the pests. Cooked locust serves as a delicacy in the area. O

Ever wonder how to cook a stick insect?

Tom Slone, Berkely, California, sent in an excerpt from Stone (1992) from which we draw the following account of the use of the giant spiny stick insect, Extatosoma tiaratum, as food in Papua New Guinea. Leaves of the sago palm are the main food of the insect; the leaves are also used for roof thatching and house roofs in PNG require re-thatching several times a year. According to Stone (pp. 157-158):

The women prepare a thatching feast and the men move off into the rain forest to coIlect large bundles of sago palm leaves. On their return, the leaves are cleaned up, dead leaves are brushed out, and at this stage many Giant Spiny Stick Insects are usually found and promptly handed over to the women for cooking. They are skewered with fine-pointed sticks pushed from the abdomen tip up through the head and spit roasted over an open fire until the legs falloff; at this stage they are ready to eat. The flesh of these large insects is pink in colour , in fact. very meaty-looking, but what it tastes like I can only guess. I have actually seen this thatching feast on film which was taken about 20 years ago. The natives also ate large spiders cooked in the same way. Whether this practice still exists today I do not know.

Stone, John L. 1992. Keeping and Breeding Butterflies and other Exotica: Praying Mantis. Scorpions. Stick Insects. Leaf Insects. Locusts. Large Spiders and Leaf-cutter Ants. Blandford, 192 pp.C
777
QUOTE (JMAC @ Jun 1 2004, 12:24 PM)
What do expect from these claims there are some demented racist idiots like 777 here...and idiots like tool666 who claims not to be anti-Filipino, what a load of turd! Look at every Filipino bashing he says...another idiotic nationalist, oh please....

I'm not racist!!! confused.gif eek.gif sure.gif
I was just responding to Ejay's ignorant rants...
JMAC
QUOTE (777 @ Jun 2 2004, 10:06 PM)
QUOTE (JMAC @ Jun 1 2004, 12:24 PM)
What do expect from these claims there are some demented racist idiots like 777 here...and idiots like tool666 who claims not to be anti-Filipino, what a load of turd! Look at every Filipino bashing he says...another idiotic nationalist, oh please....

I'm not racist!!! confused.gif eek.gif sure.gif
I was just responding to Ejay's ignorant rants...

Then dont generalize foolio! Personal remarks should remain as it is....direct the message(PM) to Ejay1 and if you post, exclude any racial remarks since Ejay1 does not represent all Filipinos...bah, you should know all of this. sure.gif
Ek-ek
QUOTE (777 @ Jun 3 2004, 10:06 AM)
QUOTE (JMAC @ Jun 1 2004, 12:24 PM)
What do expect from these claims there are some demented racist idiots like 777 here...and idiots like tool666 who claims not to be anti-Filipino, what a load of turd! Look at every Filipino bashing he says...another idiotic nationalist, oh please....

I'm not racist!!! confused.gif eek.gif sure.gif
I was just responding to Ejay's ignorant rants...

icon_sad.gif It is sad that people are like that!
BatangDamo
isa nanaman ito sa mga panira nila upang painitin ang ulo nang mga Pilipino
Ek-ek
QUOTE (Kewell7 @ Jun 3 2004, 05:18 AM)
QUOTE (poknat @ Jun 1 2004, 06:58 PM)
Yes, That is what we call cyber crime.......

By the way it is not endemic to the Philippines that dog eating is also popular in China, Korea ,Thailand and Vietnam!

Sorry, but dog eating is not popular in Thailand.

icon_rolleyes.gif But you must admit it that dog eating also exists in Thailand too!
redhotchili
QUOTE (Butterfly @ Jun 3 2004, 02:12 AM)
what about horses? We eat Horse in PuertoRico (not as common as it used to be though).. its called "carnevieja" and I have no problem with it, I used to eat it when I was little. I am sure some of you might find that as repulsive as eating dog meat but to me it’s not a big deal.

tapang kabayo! this is cured horse meat. yes, horsemeat is also eaten here but it's rare, like deermeat. i still haven't tried it yet, though icon_smile.gif
hgnis
In Dominica I believe they eat a type of frog called the mountain chicken.
Still, anyone that would eat Lassie or InuYasha needs to have their head examined.
JMAC
^ we call that Sea Cow. mmmmmmm....


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