Refer to this thread:

English and communications skills, Improvements much needed!!!

There are some interests from some bros in here to put up this pinned "Let's Learn English" thread. Once we think it is a good thing to have, we could ask supernovasp to help put it up and get things started.

I certainly DON'T consider myself an expert in English language, since I wasn't born in the US and I don't have a English degree (I am an engineer). But, I am at a decent level and could help some bros here. The hope is that, Vietnamese bros/sis, domestic and overseas, can help each other improve our English skills. I believe English and communications skills are very essential skills to have in today's competive working environment.

Please VOTE!!!

Thanks etalkishere,

I think that everyone here isn't interested in creating an english thread, because maybe they also are at a decent level of english like you, through the result of poll above I could see that . Well, perhaps only I am ardent in this .

I suppose that the best way is if anyone has questions about english need to be cleared up, then they would post it in here, right below this topic ..

That sounds like a plan. Oh well, at least I tried

the first question that I need your help is to translate 3 sentences into vietnamese ... they make me confused .

He is pretty tall
He is rather tall
He is quite tall

They are the same meaning ?? . Dịch giùm tôi 3 câu đó sang Tiếng Việt nhé, etalkishere! ( a question is rather ngớ ngẩn )

He is pretty tall
He is rather tall
He is quite tall

This is rather/pretty/quite a tricky one In this context, the translation that makes the most sense is: Anh cha`ng ddo' kha' cao. Same meaning to me in all three sentences. People often use them interchangeably in the US.

No, because the majority people here speak English already. This site is mainly in English, and is mostly for English speaking people.

You can speak English but have questions about grammar, or some other idioms.

thank you


yeah, But if I have any question, then I will post it in here, and everybody will help me,.. OK !

Trong tất cả các bài viết tôi đọc, thì những bài của bro Heavenandearth làm tôi nhức đầu nhất, vì bro sử dụng cấu trúc phức tạp quá, ... Tôi sẽ post vài câu hỏi liên quan đến mấy cấu trúc mà Bro sử dụng trong posts lên đây, mong Bro Heavenandearth giải đáp giúp nhé .. Thanks

to be honest theres no use for it here, english is pretty easy to read and understand, but pronouncing it is harder...........people need audio tape on how to pronounce words not read them.

havythoai,

Others can help you with English. There is no lack of it here. I welcome any contradictions and debates regarding to the topics discussed. I have always said to everyone point out one thing that does not make sense. I don't think anyone has effectively proven anything wrong with what I said. If you can't comprehend what I say, then it is the problem with English or simply a shock to the system that can't see a new idea.

But go ahead for I love to see different interpretations to what I say even though I only say the very simple things, thus no one can contradict me.

From Learning French To Learning English : The Evolution Of The 20 th Century VN

I think the thread is a good idea, but it should be pinned somewhere else for everyone to read, not just the Vietnamese members.

Thus I said a new forum for this. Good chance for nitpickers to do something constructive.



With so much controversy about the topics I discuss, you would think there are more contradictions. But unfortunately they don't have one, not 3lashes, USA or Hoho jinxs (I got to add the Chinese - can't leave them out in the cold). Consider this when you post a question.

SO WHY HAVEN'T YOU CORRECTED THIS SENTENCE:

(((If there is any mistake about English that I made. Please report to me.)))

Check this thread out if you like:



So, was VNCH ideology right all along?, is CSVN trying to be VNCH 30years ago?

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...4599&st=100

PRETTY is used in lieu and place of VERY.

RATHER is interchangeable with FAIRLY

QUITE is normally used together with ACTUALLY:
He is quite tall, actually = quả thật là ông ấy rất cao.

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On most of AF Forums, I noticed that almost everybody makes many same mistakes again and again. (is this typical of Asian Americans? is this the newest trend of "tiếng Mỹ bồi"?)

Like, using THEN instead of THAN in a comparison; definAtely instead of DEFINITELY; prolly instead of PROBABLY... AnywayS instead of ANYWAY... Theirselves instead of THEMSELVES... Now a days instead of NOWADAYS... confusing YOUR and YOU'RE... SHOULD OF instead of SHOULD'VE (contraction of "should have")...

I'm sure (I participate in may forums) White Americans don't make these recurrent mistakes. Of course 100% of English people don't make these mistakes.

I'll probably add more mistakes to the above list.

Interesting thoughts johannjs, although I disagree one thing.

When used as an adverb, pretty = moderately, or to a fair degree. Whereas, very = extremely, or in a high degree. So, very is quite stronger than pretty in the context being used

Perfectly agreed!

Glad we're on the same wavelength Heavenandearth

This is a strange feeling. Are you sure you are a Catho? They don't usually agree with me. Groups that don't agree with me are: pro USA/3lashes, Hoho jinx, Chinese and Catho, oh and punks. I am having one following my a-ss right now. Hihihi

Do you agree with this:

Heavenandearth

I'm not much into religious discussions and debates, since I know all religions, except Satanism and others that worship evils, promote violence and hatred, are good for all human kinds. All religions, including one being lead by the Roman Catholic Church, although in different forms and ways of teaching, promote peace, love, and doing good to others, especially those most in need.

I could not speak for other Catholics. Personally, besides from the beautiful teachings I've got everyweek, I also have my own thinkings and believes which need to be in sync with the teachings. For example, I want our Vietnamese people to have happy, prosperous lives. Watching our people suffer because of starvation and poverty really hurts.

That's all I could say

Take care bro.

That alright. But remember, those who don't want to discuss it, don't want to learn and explore the deeper level. Clearly, Catho doesn't promote this whereas, Buddhism promotes it all the way without violence ofcourse.

Take a very good care and be very careful of what you choose to believe. It may blind you to other possibilities. Then it is very sad to see.

I respect what you believe, and I hope you respect what others believe It's just that I believe in what I believe, and I have a heck of a busy life (sometimes, I am still thinking why the heck I am here typing in this forum as supposed to do something else, hihi), and I already know being a Catholic is a very good thing for me, and for my kids, I just don't have time to explore further

Materially Catho offer much material benefits for their aims are power and control. Buddhism offer pure truth and unity, thus it never interested with power and material gains. So that is why it never afraid for you to explore. You don't have time to explore further or you don't want to explore further? Exloring truth, you can do it with every breath you take. Looks like you are already blinded, but there is still some hope. I do understand there are plenty of good Christain people. But it is the core that's scarry.

the problem with you is that you really do not understand religion and it's teaching. all you can do is think politically. of course religion gets mixed up with the government sometimes and that there are negative impacts as there are bad people in power in any religion. your definition of a "religion" needs to be redefined

Catho aims are money, power and therefore politics are all the same. Its history is full of this, witch hunts, crusades, child molestations, involves in wars and control of governing. That is why people have to separate it out: religion and state. Ring any bell? I have said this from the very start don't intend to keep repeating to you, punk.

Have you found anything you can contradict? What else you can understand. I thought you say you don't. Hihihi

Heavenandearth:

Your generalized opinions and claims really cross the line, and I find them very offensive. Please refrain yourself and stop your nonsense at this point.

Get back to the what this thread is really about: Let's Learn English.

this is his 4th time dodging my question, you obviously do not know about the religion. you probably don't know anything about your own religion. it is because he does not know how to respond. "hihihihi"



we alrdy know he doesnt make much sense lol. speaking of english, he should consider taking a class lol

This thread is really about voting on whether putting up Let's Learn English is a good idea. There have been interests to setup a pinned Let's Learn English thread beyond Vietnamese Chat forum, so everyone in AF can be benefited.

With that being said, I really appreciate if every is thoughtful of others in AF and starts taking religious discussions and rebates, or other heated discussions, out of this thread.

Let's not be selfish.

I have brought bad a thread of religion discussion:

Mother Maria statue shed tears in Saigon !!, its another one !!
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...p;#entry2200531

See how useless is the religion that even the miracles are meaningless. Anyway, it was not a miracle.

haha Learning English is fun. I like it very much. Please join me.

Do you know the eight parts of speech? I give you some hints already.



1. V
2. N
3. P
4. Adj
5. Adv
6. P
7. C
8. I

punk,

Come here and show us you Engrish. Hihihi

The eight parts of speech

1. Verb
2. Noun
3. Pronoun
4. Adjective
5. Adverb
6. Preposition
7. Conjection
8. Interjection

Why doesn't he show off his Engrish here, but only to me? Hihihi Probably trying to impress me? Hihihi

Punk, your contribution here is more contructive.

havythoai, I just found out there is a very good ESL (English As A Second Language) for you. There are many listening sessions in there that will help improve your listening/speaking skills.

Check it out: http://www.esl-lab.com/

Where is that Sis. She says she wants to ask some questions on what I wrote, some Engrish, which Punk can answer it better. Unfortunately he finds it too constructive to even show up here.

What is there to ask. I only say the very basics, right? Prove that I am wrong or prove that you don't understand the basics?

I can debate on whatever that you want to . But there're two things stopping me do that. Of course, one of them is my english skill, it's not good . the other is time, I don't have much time to hang out here all day. Esspecial, what you wrote that almost made nonsense .

Ok ! maybe we shouldn't put the things like this in this topic. It's just for me to learn English


Can you translate the paragraph of blue above into Vietnamese for me ? Heavenearth , it makes me confused a bit.

P.S: thanks etalkishere and Jonanisj . I''l check it out

Someone here can do that translation. On second thought, why don't you translate it, if you wanted to learn. Then someone can tell what you got "a bit" wrong or right.

Surprise us with what you got, yea ! Hihihi

You have already indicated to us that you don't really wanted to learn, why? Because of one sentence that you ask us to correct, which we have, you have not changed it. So tell me which "bit" you want to learn or change, or do you? Hihihi Baby sis, stop crying! Shut up and learn!

người mà viết đọan đó mới dịch chính xác. ! .

P.S : Tôi đã kiềm chế "a bit", so you don't ruin the topic by your words above, thanks

You guys hear that she only wants to learn from me. Hihihi Unfortunately, I only put effort for those who try, and want to learn, because I suspect the problem is not English.

the problem is really english, I'm very serious. Ok ! if you don't want to help me translate it, anyway I also thank you for minding me.

Translate it! We will correct you! I don't think it is Engrish because you can write well enough to understand what I say. Hihihi

If you can't understand, learn Engrish. If you want to learn translate and someone will correct it. Simple. End of conversation until then.

Co nguoi PM dich cho toi rui, anyway, thanks for help

What's stopping you from posting it up? You are afraid, are you not? Come share and share around so everyone can learn.

what are I afraid of ? I'm just lazy to post it. He translated it very well, and very funny .

yeah, if you want to read it, Here it is :

Он написал вещи, которые не имеют смысл. Я не могу даже понять то, что он сказал. Намерение никогда не состояло в том, чтобы захватывать Ха Noi, но причинять коммунизм распространения и разрушения. Без разрушений, никогда замеченный ад на земле, commmunism никогда не имел бы шанс во Вьетнаме. Это - пункт(точка), который хорошие и интеллектуальные люди должны получить

Very funny little sis. Now run along and play with other kids.

Do you understand Russian ?