During WWII wasn't japan attempting to aqquire alot of land because they needed it or was there other reasons?

anyways I know Japan is a very mountainous island chain with very little inhabitable land area... so is Japan still seeking land? Does Japan desire to aqquire maybe Sakhalin island or the Kuril islands from Russia?

And how habitable would they be?

can you teach me about the future of Japan and their land?

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why don't u use the net

^ i did, but all the explainations were too comlicated. & what's wrong with asking japanese in their own culture forum where your supposed to ask these questions?

you better not post another thing on AF ken_n or ill ask you why don't you search the net every time. k?

I think Japan will be stopped at the moment when it shows its desire for more lands.

And when should China be stopped?

Well, Japan used Manchuria mainly to excavate all the minerals and other natural resources. When they colonised Korea & Taiwan, they used it to manufacture military arms and other heavy duty stuff. I don't know if they wanted to take over the land for living purposes though, they tried to Japanise their colonies rather than shifiting huge boatloads of people into those colonies.

Logically, they'd be hungry for land now, since Tokyo itself is crowded and the people are squashed like packed sardines. Same with China and why it wants chunks of teh RFE back.

Given Japan's impressive and state of the art technology, I'd think they can build the infrastructure to comfortably accomdate people on the Sakhalin and Kuril islands. If you search udner google, the Sakhalin islands have had quite an interesting history and the surroundings looks surperb, especially the snowfall.

Stay on topic.

Look back at your own country before making judgment about others.

I'll probably get flamed for this but there is radical japanese military leaders in Tokyo who have ambitions to invade asia again, starting with Korea. And some politicians want to take away korea's and russia's islands. But they only represent the few people and not the majority.

Please, this is the last time I'm going to ask you to stay on topic. This thread is about "Is Japan hungray for land?". If you want to say something about China, that'd belong to another thread. I think you're quite childish, you're following me and emperor to every post and try to bash us.
Sorry, I'm just here to discuss about "Is Japan hungry for land?", not to argue with you on China.

Do you have a problem with me stating my opinion? Does this forum belong to you? I'm not following you.

The whole point is imperialists shouldn't be calling others imperialists when they are imperialists themselves.

And to reply to YManchun, that's wishful thinking. What are they and what do you have to claim those back?

The islands were inhabited by koreans since before the korean war broke out. There is also some documents dating back before the japanese colonization that stated dokdo island belonged to korea.


As for the japanese radicals. I hear that the SDF leaders wanted to reconquer asia because they wanted to eliminate the threats and mine the resources that they lack.

There are very few Japanese radicals who believe that and they are VERY VERY far from getting a majority to put their beliefs into action. Their beliefs are never aired on TV or in magazines or on radio. Perhaps the only place they can voice their opinion is on the net (which is why many foreigners think Japanese are radicals). The chances that Japan invades Asia, even if it had the capability, is less that the chance that aliens try to colonize the Earth. But the fact that major political leaders want Russian territories back is true. But that is not radical because the reasons they want the Kuril Islands back are totally legitimate. I myself believe Kuril Islands should be returned. My grandparents were born there and now they don't have a home to go back to. Kuril Islands are inhabited by Japanese speaking people who practice Japanese culture. They are obviously not Russian lands and it is only part of the old Soviet Union's manifest destiny to move south.

^ Are you joking? The fact that japan wants what belongs to the nation returned simply makes us radicals. Any other nation could claim they want their land back and people will sympathize for them. Not japan. This is one of the reasons I say we must do what is good for us and only what benefits us. By no means I am not talking about japan should start conquering again. That is the last thing we need is to give the rest of asia something to b!tch about and use against us.

Oh and by the way. To hell with that ridiculous korean team. The fact that they lost to japan and were so arrogant and proud makes the victory much much more enjoyable in my personal opinion. Yet is is japanese people that lookd down upon and hate everyone.

A nation is hungry for land when it has too many people and too little land (or resources.) Like most developed post-industrial nations, the population in Japan is aging and shrinking.

So no, Japan is no longer "hungry" for land. It does not need more land because its population is shrinking.

Moreover, Japan's post-WWII constitution specifically does not permit the country sending its troops abroad for land grabbing.

It is China, with its projected population explosion and two centuries of hurt ego, that will become resource hungry and highly combustable in the near future.

The reasoning that you give for why Japan is not land-hungry is oversimplified and somewhat flawed but you came to a relatively correct conclusion.

Japan is not land hungry because there is no reason to have more land. Plus, people aren't willing to risk anything to get something they don't want or need. I dislike the idea of grabbing new lands, it sounds imperialistic and most Japanese agree with how I believe. The chances that we'll all rally in agreement to take over peoples are very slim.

I dunno if China will really want to have more land. The country is already too big as is. A communist country becomes harder and harder to manage the larger the country is. That's why only countries like Cuba where the land is very small have managed to successfully maintain a true communism. China is already concerned with many other problems and they don't need to get new land right now when most of the land they already have is uninhabited or underdeveloped.

yeah... i don't know how good it is to characterize a whole country for some past mistakes.

individuals are responsible for their own actions.
sometimes the collective can be wrong, but still its bad to generalize.

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^ well i was talking about the need for more land as the population increases and can not sustain any longer and as the country becomes more industrialized it needs more resources to maintain as well....

They could colonize planets or force people out of the country. I think japan could sustain more people for the next several decades, more then enough time to further develope space travel.

So?? The Japan don't have enough land for his population are living!! I think the the Japanese increasing a lot of babies in every year...Thats why the Land is become narrow...So?? Which country do the Japan have a secret plan to encroach? 1) China, 2) Korea???



RockHeart,



:genius:

PS: How many population of Japan have now??

Actually I heard that the population growth rate is slowing down. They're having less babies.

I think the pop. of japan is 120 million?

As long as Japan isn't economically frustrated, it will not think much of expansion.

Japan is no more land hungry than England, another island nation, was. As an Asian I wish it was Japan that did what England did to the world. Then, as an Asian, I would be at the more privileged position of the whites are now in America, even though they did not all descend from the British. I probably would be speaking and writing in Japanese now, but, I would benefit from being the same race as the Japanese, as other Europeans have been benefitting from the British colonialization of the world - as the same race.

^ well that was interesting...

Japan is small, but maybe they can buy those islands from another countries, instead of conquering another countries for land.

It's a funny thing, Japanese population growth was just a lame excuse some imperialist used to take over the world but now that the overpopulation problem really is getting to be serious, maybe countries really will begin to fight for land for that reason.

As for Japan, the population growth rate is negative, every year, there are less and less children being born. In order for a country to sustain their population, the average number of children a couple has has to be around 2.5 or more I think but Japan is barely above 2, maybe less.

Anyway, Japan still does have a lot of farmland and we have the engineering capabilities to produce buildings that are taller and sustain more people. Tokyo doesn't have many tall buildings anyway. It is just a very wide city. We will never have to go to war for land, ever.

Speaking of buying land Trueviet... Russia is currently willing to sell back the Khurile Islands to Japan to the tune of several trillion dollars.

I don't think that the Japan are so hungry for land more than the Viets!!! The Viets are the most people so much hungry for the Land, it has a risk to swallow KhmerLand couple times, already. But then, the Land is hardly for them swallowing........



RockHeart,

There goes RockHear again bashing the viets.

when i said would japan desire to aqquire more land, i meant the selling and buying of land and properties...

That is an interesting viewpoint I had not considered, and I to agree... even as a Chinese American.

If Japan, instead of England or even America, had ruled the world, all Asians--regardless of their ethnicity, Chinese, Corean, Vietnamese, or else--would have benefited a great deal. A Japanese hegemony would have been able to establish an Asian superiority worldview, much as the Britain Empire had established the prevalent White superiority the has persisted until this day. The Japanese global empire would have ultimately waned and fell. However, the privileges it could have established for Asians would continue long after the empire had faded. Asians would definitely be in a much more favorable position in the world.

And we all would speak Japanese right now...

Yeah, right...

And so we all are speaking English right now.

England ruled the world, not France or Germany. Today, France is still speaking French. Germany is still speaking Germany. However, all White people--including French and German, and not just English or American--enjoy the privileges the old British hegemony had established for them.

Now substitute England with Japan, France with China, and Germany with Corea, and use a little imagination to see the possibility.

Of course, self-rule and self-determination always beat being ruled by a foreign power. However, English global domination happened, and it made the world into what it is today. If I had a choice, I would choose a former Japanese hegemony over an English one, Japanese over English as international language. The world would still suck for us Chinese, but it would suck much less for Asians, and Chinese would be better off than any White.

Well, then Japanese would be the "international language", instead of English.
And we still would be speaking Japanese right now.

Yeah, but we would not be using English. We would be speaking Japanese as the international language. We would still use Chinese (i.e., Mandarin or Cantonese) as our cultural language among ourselves, which is no different from what it is in our reality.

Uh uh. Most likely the chinese language speakers would be rare. Japan was trying to erase the language and cultures of countries and replace them with japanese ideals,culture and language.

Strange how hundreds of years ago... everyone copied China...

now everyone is copying the West!

What about american imperialism? The lands stolen by the U.S. from México. - CALIFORNIA - ARIZONA - NEW MEXICO - TEXAS - NEVADA - UTAH - COLORADO - others. 50% of the mexican territory stolen. More than 1,900,500.0 km2 of the most productive and richer zones of the whole continent. Alaska sold by Russia, Florida taken from Spain, northwestern territories bought from England, also Puesto Rico, Hawaii, Panama Channel (until year 2000), Occupation of lands in every continent including Europe, and Asia of course. Who is the mayor parasit in the whole world? hum?

Idiot, do you think buying land from other foreign country is a imperialism? For example Alaska and California?

Hmm, let me think... yea right, buying Alaska taking advantage of the russian crisis was not so dirty. Let's talk only about massacres and southern lands stolen then, ok? By the way, did you find those dangerous weapons in Iraq? No? ...oh, shame, all that people dying for the "american way". I do understand, attacking other countries for petroleum is not an easy task, better luck next time! Oh, and watch out for the "dungeon keepers".

Just my two cents but I would much rather have British Hegemony than Japanese. The Imperial Japanese tried to erase the cultures and languages of the places they conquered with their own. Had Japan established what the British did, there would be no Chinese or Korean language today.

Stop what?

Japan wouldnt really want more land unless it REALLY needed it. Japan has successully developed a relatively good lifestyle for the majority albeit living in cramped apartments. The way the population is growing (rather decreasing) and with comfortable lives, new land would be a burden rather than an advantage. Unless the Japanese want a majority of their population to live on huge detached houses akin to USA/Canada/Australia, then and only then would more land be required.

China wouldn't want any more land...it would rather focus on developing the undeveloped regions than having more land and worrying about administoring it. Perhaps the only piece they may be interested in gaining back is tghe RFE's South East Area (Primovsky Krai and Vladivostok) - about the size of Iran and Iraq together. The land is arable, once Chinese territory and has a few developed cities.

And the British didn't? We Indians are still playing cricket and drinking tea in the afternoon.

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Nice to see you too.

hmm... not so sure about that...

If memory serves, the high ranking Japanese soldiers got Japanese and European women in the comfort woman program. Koreans (which made up the bulk of the sex slaves) Chinese and the rest of the Asians were allocated to the low ranking Japanese soldiers. This suggests that Japanese didn't hold Asians in high regard, otherwise they would've allocated the Asian women to the high ranking soldiers and the European ones for the lower ranking soldiers. Agree?

And if Japan did rule Asia, you wouldn't be speaking Chinese right now... Your name wouldn't even be Jareth Chong... It would probably be Jareth Yamamoto, or Jareth Nakamura. Your sisters and daughters would be sex slaves to the Japanese, and you would toil in the fields for Japan's enrichment. All your descendants would inherit the Japanese culture and genes. Your ethnicity would be wiped out just as the Native American's ethnicity was from Spanish domination in Latin America.

You may even be a test subject for their inhuman experiments.

However America made the world a free and a better place. Japan and south korea are rich countries. Iraq is free from Saddam and will be a better place after the reconstruction. Asia is part of the free world thanks to America.

American hegemony means independence and freedom. Japanese hegemony means torture and death.

Most likely that would not be the case now. The chinese and everyone else would have been assimilated into japanese society by now. More than likely the brutal treatment would have stopped by the 1970s. Then again who knows.