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SoCal
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gomeny
I've noticed the same theme on CCTV9. I think peaceful rise is possible.
rahul1000
We really can't go to war with these three countries, there's far too much at stake for everyone.
兔兔胜
war sukz...why can't we just all get along? =/
gomeny
QUOTE(兔兔胜 @ Aug 26 2006, 08:22 PM) *

war sukz...why can't we just all get along? =/


Humans like to dominate over each other? I still think India and China should become strong allies like France and German.
Jagger
Sometime in the near future, China and India will able to rival US dominance.

At that time, we can expect there to be a tri-polar balance of world power and economy.
Chinese_Soldier
Indeed, China and India has to work together more if they truly want Asia to be rid of American military presence.
Henry123
If Europe can come together to form the E.U. I dont see why India and China cant do the same thing.
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(Henry123 @ Oct 14 2006, 03:59 PM) *

If Europe can come together to form the E.U. I dont see why India and China cant do the same thing.

Pride?
gomeny
QUOTE(gomeny @ Aug 26 2006, 09:08 PM) *

Humans like to dominate over each other? I still think India and China should become strong allies like France and German.

I'd like to change my opinion, china is a horrible evil country. India is corrupt dellusional poor nation. America is a dip $hit fat fu-king nation.
ACMILAN1983
QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ Oct 15 2006, 12:05 AM) *

Pride?


Possibly, but if that's the case then they should really swallow their pride this time and look to the greater goods.

Personally, I think there is still too much tension to consider merging economies and the like.
FIVB
Very hard

Almost impossible
ReichsLeiter
if europe can forget the past enemities of WWII why can't India and China?
FIVB
QUOTE(ReichsLeiter @ Nov 9 2006, 06:42 PM) *

if europe can forget the past enemities of WWII why can't India and China?



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Mid-Night_Sun
if Asia doesnt make something close to the E.U we will all be fuked. thats what i think.

if pride is the reason, then thats a stupid reason. unless we all plan to go down : /
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(FIVB @ Dec 20 2006, 12:40 AM) *

There is only a Anti-China Axis : USA, India and Japan. (All 1.3b Chinese know)



You sound like George W. Bush.

Seriously, paranoia like this is one of the reasons that an EU like unification is hard to do.
LaoShare
QUOTE(gomeny @ Oct 14 2006, 04:54 PM) *

I'd like to change my opinion, china is a horrible evil country. India is corrupt dellusional poor nation. America is a dip $hit fat fu-king nation.

Mnnnnnn .................Ah….. finally I see something in common! icon_wink.gif

QUOTE(FIVB @ Dec 20 2006, 12:40 AM) *

There is only a Anti-China Axis : USA, India and Japan.
Anti-USA Axis : Made in China, Made in Japan and Made in Korea.
FIVB
QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ Dec 21 2006, 11:23 AM) *

You sound like George W. Bush.

Seriously, paranoia like this is one of the reasons that an EU like unification is hard to do.



How Asia (East / South / SE) unified in Economy and Politics as EU?

Japan wants Taiwan Indepandance.

India wants Tiberan Indepandence.

2 things will trigger Chinese anger. Talktohand.gif
ACMILAN1983
QUOTE(FIVB @ Dec 25 2006, 05:52 AM) *

How Asia (East / South / SE) unified in Economy and Politics as EU?

Japan wants Taiwan Indepandance.

India wants Tiberan Indepandence.

2 things will trigger Chinese anger. Talktohand.gif


If you're going to play the blame game then at least get your facts straight. Firstly, Japan as I'm aware hasn't shown any formal support to Taiwanese independance, so show some facts to prove otherwise.

India has formally recognised Tibet (at least spell it correctly) to be a part of China.

Now if these so call evil anti Chinese nations are stopping an EU like unification, then how about China with their constant claims of Indian land and support of the Pakistani Military when they are supposedly trying to build a friendship with India.

Don't act like China is some victim of hate, it dishes out just as much as it gets.
FIVB
QUOTE(ACMILAN1983 @ Dec 25 2006, 06:14 PM) *

If you're going to play the blame game then at least get your facts straight. Firstly, Japan as I'm aware hasn't shown any formal support to Taiwanese independance, so show some facts to prove otherwise.

India has formally recognised Tibet (at least spell it correctly) to be a part of China.

Now if these so call evil anti Chinese nations are stopping an EU like unification, then how about China with their constant claims of Indian land and support of the Pakistani Military when they are supposedly trying to build a friendship with India.

Don't act like China is some victim of hate, it dishes out just as much as it gets.




China's support for Pakistan responses to India's support for Dalai Lama 14th.

Japan? Becasue of its imperialism and right-wing tendency, Chinese hates it!



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Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(FIVB @ Dec 25 2006, 03:05 AM) *

China's support for Pakistan responses to India's support for Dalai Lama 14th.



China can support Pakistan all it wants, but it really won't benefit China. Pakistan really doesn't have much to offer China which it can't get elsewhere.

India has every right to support anyone that they want. Just because the CCP doesn't like the Dalai Lama doesn't mean we have to. The Tibet-China conflict isn't our problem so we don't need to pick sides.
ACMILAN1983
QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ Dec 25 2006, 04:34 PM) *

China can support Pakistan all it wants, but it really won't benefit China. Pakistan really doesn't have much to offer China which it can't get elsewhere.

India has every right to support anyone that they want. Just because the CCP doesn't like the Dalai Lama doesn't mean we have to. The Tibet-China conflict isn't our problem so we don't need to pick sides.


interesting point you've brought up there Tenj. I'm curious to know your opinion on something though, despite China'ss lack of gain from supporting Pakistan, why does it do so?


Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(ACMILAN1983 @ Dec 25 2006, 01:17 PM) *

interesting point you've brought up there Tenj. I'm curious to know your opinion on something though, despite China'ss lack of gain from supporting Pakistan, why does it do so?

I would say its the same reason as USA's support for Pakistan......strategic location. Pakistan is bordered by Iran and Afghanistan and is very close to Oman as well as the rest of the Arabian Peninsula. Pakistan gives both America and China a gateway to the Middle East and provides them with access to oil pipelines running within the region.

Countering India is just an added bonus for China (and not an issue for the U.S.). While Pakistan can't provided any real resistance to India, it can serve as a temporary detterance for China to use in order to build up force elsewhere.

Lately I think the only real advantage that China has gained through its friendship with Pakistan has been the construction of the Gwadar port....
rahul1000
Well, what do you guys think of the China-Pakistan friendship? How long will it keep lasting? Would it die down if India for instance kicked out the Dalai Lama and did not give any sort of support (spiritual, moral, etc) to Tibet or its people?

Can we really call it a "friendship" between China and Pakistan when maybe China is only cozying up with Pakistan to spite India?
FIVB
QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ Dec 26 2006, 12:34 AM) *

China can support Pakistan all it wants, but it really won't benefit China. Pakistan really doesn't have much to offer China which it can't get elsewhere.

India has every right to support anyone that they want. Just because the CCP doesn't like the Dalai Lama doesn't mean we have to. The Tibet-China conflict isn't our problem so we don't need to pick sides.



QUOTE(rahul1000 @ Dec 26 2006, 06:43 AM) *

Well, what do you guys think of the China-Pakistan friendship? How long will it keep lasting? Would it die down if India for instance kicked out the Dalai Lama and did not give any sort of support (spiritual, moral, etc) to Tibet or its people?

Can we really call it a "friendship" between China and Pakistan when maybe China is only cozying up with Pakistan to spite India?





1. China supports Pakistan, but at least China keeps neutral in Kashmir problem.

2. China needs to keep good relationship with Pakistan, China don't want she to become an islam fundamentalist state. Don't forget China has Xinjaing (so-called East Turkistan) problem.

3. USA and Japan (maybe India) want to control Malacca strait, it means that they want to block the petroleum import to China. So, China need to prepare alternative measure to keep normal petroleum import .

Now, China, India and Pakistan all are nuclear states. Each can be balanced by other.

USA is a evil state (common sense for all Chinese), IT supports the independence of Taiwan (with Fxxkable Japan), and riots in Xinjaing (with Fxxkable Turkey) and Tibet (with Indian Nationalists).
rahul1000
Looks like Chinese have a lot of enemies. icon_confused.gif
FIVB
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ACMILAN1983
QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ Dec 25 2006, 10:27 PM) *

I would say its the same reason as USA's support for Pakistan......strategic location. Pakistan is bordered by Iran and Afghanistan and is very close to Oman as well as the rest of the Arabian Peninsula. Pakistan gives both America and China a gateway to the Middle East and provides them with access to oil pipelines running within the region.

Countering India is just an added bonus for China (and not an issue for the U.S.). While Pakistan can't provided any real resistance to India, it can serve as a temporary detterance for China to use in order to build up force elsewhere.

Lately I think the only real advantage that China has gained through its friendship with Pakistan has been the construction of the Gwadar port....


Good answer, though I think you underestimate countering India being an added bonus. Either way, I don't like the way China supports Pakistan, but put up with it, just like I expect China to put up with India's developing friendships with the US and Japan.
FIVB
QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ Dec 26 2006, 12:34 AM) *

China can support Pakistan all it wants, but it really won't benefit China. Pakistan really doesn't have much to offer China which it can't get elsewhere.

India has every right to support anyone that they want. Just because the CCP doesn't like the Dalai Lama doesn't mean we have to. The Tibet-China conflict isn't our problem so we don't need to pick sides.



No, there are 3 reasons for China to support Pakistan


1. Alliance or enemy, if China is an alliance of Pakistan, we must be an enemy of them, they must support Xinjaing islamic independance movement. (Pakistan and India are brothers, but still in opponent status due to religous problem)

With support for China, Pakistan is controlled military personnel. Otherwise, Pakistan will be controlled by Islamic fundamentalist, this is not only the tragedy of India, but also is that of China.

(China keeps neutral in Kashmir sovereignty arguement)

2. Pakistan helped China to set up diplomatic relationship with USA.


3. USA, Japan and India wants to contril Malacca Strait, so China need to find out the alternative route for petroleum transport.
AMAR420
India should care about a cooperation between China, Russia and Japan.
SoCal
Hi All icon_smile.gif

Happy Lunar New Year.

I am sorry for my ignorance. Does India celebrate Lunar New Year?

I pray for everlasting peace among India, China, and USA.

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gomeny
QUOTE(SoCal @ Feb 14 2007, 08:21 PM) *

Hi All icon_smile.gif

Happy Lunar New Year.

I am sorry for my ignorance. Does India celebrate Lunar New Year?

I pray for everlasting peace among India, China, and USA.

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No, but there are celebrations in Kolkata, Mumbai, and New Dehli were most Chinese expats live.
northwestern_student
there are hardly any chinese left in india, i think. vast majority of the chinese left india during '62.
Jagger
QUOTE(northwestern_student @ Feb 17 2007, 06:49 PM) *

there are hardly any chinese left in india, i think. vast majority of the chinese left india during '62.

There are at least over 30,000 Chinese residents left in India, mostly in West Bengal. In comparison, Hong Kong has over 50,000 Indian residents, while PRC has no more than 1000 Indian residents.
gomeny
QUOTE(Jagger @ Feb 18 2007, 01:41 AM) *

There are at least over 30,000 Chinese residents left in India, mostly in West Bengal. In comparison, Hong Kong has over 50,000 Indian residents, while PRC has no more than 1000 Indian residents.

not trolling, but can you site that information.

Most of the Hakkas left per my googling results.
Jagger
Most of the Hakkas left but there are still 21,000 Mandarin Han Chinese left in India:

http://www.joshuaproject.net/peopctry.php?...686&rog3=IN

This figure doesn't include the non-Mandarin Chinese, so there should be at least 30,000 Chinese in India overall.
gomeny
cool thanks
Jagger
QUOTE(gomeny @ Feb 18 2007, 09:03 PM) *

cool thanks

I like you too.
ReichsLeiter
if u add tibetans as chinese, we have more than 100,000 of them here icon_wink.gif
Jagger
According to the Taiwan government, there are actually 189,470 Chinese in India:

http://www.ocac.gov.tw/english/public/publ...163&level=B

I think most of them are probably of Tibetan descent though.
moobie
There should be a NWU, No Whitey Union. AU + ASEAN+3 Mexico and South America. And Russia and East Europe too. Just because eek.gif

Also Canada when it's overtaken by Chinese immigrants.
rahul1000
QUOTE(moobie @ Mar 28 2007, 10:54 AM) *

There should be a NWU, No Whitey Union. AU + ASEAN+3 Mexico and South America. And Russia and East Europe too. Just because eek.gif

Also Canada when it's overtaken by Chinese immigrants.


And Indian immigrants too mang.
cao_ni_mao
In the old days most of the worlds GDP came from China and India.

I see that becoming a reality again this century. China and India declined but both peoples are smart enough to learn from the mistakes of the past.
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