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>Passengers of Adam Air were being asked to leave boarded plane twice.
>Owners of Adam Air prefer to take Garuda rather than using their own plane for same destination.


From: Chris Brady [mailto:chris@b737.org.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: B737-400 - Do you know what this hole/section made for?

Hello,
The hatch is an inspection panel for part of the engine and should be secured with 4 catches, to use tape is very poor practice. There is actually no problem to the aircraft to fly without the panel, it is just streamlining and reduces drag. The danger would be when it came off, it could fly back and hit the tail doing some further damage.

If this aircraft was operated by Adam Air there are already some serious concerns about their safety practices. You should pass these photographs onto the Indonesian DGAC for them to investigate. Also you may like to put them on this link http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240082

Best regards


Chris Brady
The Boeing 737 Technical Guide
Author www.b737.org.uk
Captain B737-3/4/5/700
LPL, UK
Actualight
This article is written by PK-KAR
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240082

Adam Air - The Flying Circus Nightmare

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After the spectacular incident where PK-KKE went off course a few months ago, where it landed at some isolated small airport 400NM off away from its destination, many of us down here suspected bad maintenance as a cause. Despite all the press statements by Adam Air citing pilot error, the Directorate General of Air Communication (DGAC) placed an order for Adam Air to fix the IRS of PK-KKE (B733) and it would require 13 proving flights with the DGAC on board inspectors over a few months for PK-KKE to be released for unrestricted commercial flying.

Now, a quick look into Adam Air in the few months revealed some (not so) shocking discoveries, mainly around the commercial vs safety issues. All this culminated in the strike by the Flight Ops Officers at CGK station around 2 weeks ago, where they wanted better pay (they're amongst the lowest paid in the industry), and better safety, and the reemployment of 10 of their colleagues who were fired for "differences with management."

I have decided to write some of these up based on publicly available information, witnesses and also conversations with current and former Adam Air personnell, and many of whom wished this information to be known public but without fear of reprisals to their livelihoods, their lives, and also mine.

Does management understand the real meaning of the word "safety" ?
There are serious doubts as to the safety conscience of the senior management within the airline, in particular, the owners. The effects of the PK-KKE incident (Tambolaka Incident) did not dent Adam Air's image thanks to a quick hash up of the incident despite all the discoveries by the press regarding the handling. However, the management was quick to put the blame on the pilot and the first officer (who was a DGAC pilot attached to the airline). This resulted in Adam announcing that it was to place criminal charges on the two pilots for endangering people's lives (some sort of attempted manslaughter) through professional negligence. This yielded public protest from the pilot community and in particular Adam Air's pilots, who already had 17 colleagues being sued by Adam Air for not paying their bonds (20,000 USD).

Strangely enough, those 17 pilots that were being sued had in the past refused to fly aircraft that were not in a safe condition to carry passengers. The pilots were taken off the rosters and did not fly for some months, depriving them of income through per diem pay, flight hour pay and meal allowances which can form 25 - 40% of their income. When they decided to resign because the company wouldn't put them on flying duties, the company decided to sue them for their working bonds and other damages such as losses from training costs etc. Bear in mind that some of these pilots may already have had their type ratings before they joined Adam Air.

Further concerns of Adam Air's safety comes to the flight attendants. Adam Air's flight attendants often fly with maximum daily duty time and minimum rests at outstations, as well as being worked to the maximum legal limit of 6 days flying in a week. Fatigue have resulted in at least one known case of an Adam Air flight attendant being hospitalised for fatigue or illnesses where fatigue is a major contributory factor. The other side of the concern is the relative experience of the cabin crew on a particular flight. Adam Air is known to have put many junior flight attendants on a gruelling roster and place them as Pursers/CA1 within 6 months of flying duty.

Incidents, accidents, maintenance defects and deferrals

1. Tambolaka
The most well known of all Adam Air incidents is the Tambolaka Incident. The details of this incident have been discussed before in this forum. A few months down the road, it can be said that the company's handling of the Tambolaka incident was also hilarious and shocking.

The National Transportation Safety Committee (NTSC) ordered was appalled when their go-team was left stranded in Denpasar when they were due to fly to Tambolaka with the Adam Air engineers, after the flight they were supposed to take flew with the engineers but without them. The NTSC was then appalled that the item of focus for the investigation, PK-KKE's IRS, was "repaired" before they arrived. NTSC cited that this was an obstruction to the investigation and a deliberate attempt to hide evidence. The NTSC was further hindered in that the aircraft flew to Makassar after being repaired without the NTSC's prior approval. The DGAC also protested against such a move, but Adam Air insisted that the aircraft had permission to fly to Makassar immediately after it was repaired but would not state which DGAC officer gave the approval.

2. Weather Radars
During last monsoon season, one Adam Air pilot has once called me asking for weather satellite pictures of Indonesia. I had asked him why and his answer was shocking. "At one stage, all of our 732s had no weather radar." Despite this, they were forced to fly into the night in areas with dense cumulus and Cumulonimbus clouds that is prevalent during monsoon season.

3. A 737-3/4/5 flat battery incident.
A few weeks ago I received a message asking about the 737-3/4/5 electrics. Apparently, during cruise, the GEN2 have failed. Normally, the flight would continue with the APU GEN enganged to replace the failed GEN. Unfortunately, the plane had somehow been dispatched with a flat battery which wouldn't recharge. The aircraft continued to the destination on a single GEN and its unclear whether there was a nearer suitable airport to divert to as no further information was given.

Various incidents over the last 10 days:

4. PK-KKE (B733)
PK-KKE has been flying under DGAC surveillance since then until last week when it finally completed 13 flights without any IRS problems, although PK-KKE's story doesn't finish there, two days ago, PK-KKE's IRS#2 went unserviceable again and this time the crew decided to RTB and the crew refused to fly the aircraft. Passengers were left wondering why they returned and complained that they were already late. Adam Air's answer was "we left some of your last minute bag this time, and you should be on your way shortly," while they go and look for another crew to fly. It seems that this aircraft's IRS is a never ending saga.

5. PK-KKF (B732)
A year back, Adam's 732 pilots have protested to the management regarding its decision to delay the maintenance of PK-KKF due to a missing rear section of the leading edge slats on the right wing. Three pilots who have raised this issue with me personally have now left the company due to the management's handling of various safety matters.

Within the last 7 days, PK-KKF's left engine would not start in Semarang and the aircraft had to remain overnight there after spares had to be flown in and maintenance done overnight. Given that this is a long holiday weekend, it resulted in a huge mess throughout the Adam Air network.

8. PK-KKN
This 737-200 had two incidents/defects over the past 10 days.

Last week, the aircraft was heard radio-ing Fatmawati Tower (Bengkulu airport) asking if a pushback truck was available at the airport. The airport had no pushback trucks, so the crew asked "which runway direction would give (him) the longest distance to the taxiway intersection (next to the apron). A witness then photographed why the aircraft asked for the information, it lost its HYD A pressure resulting in no nosewheel steering.

Instead of RTB-ing, the aircraft landed and stopped in the runway, blocking it, to drop its passengers and bags. Then, it was pushed back to apron using raw muscle power.

The problem was traced to a hydraulic rubber line that had hardened and the hose had split near a pipe joint. Adam's solution? Don't replace the line, save cost by cutting the split section and connect the shortened hose to the pipe and the aircraft is then dispatched.

This weekend, the aircraft again reported problem, the left fuel flow gauge was inoperative. After a short groundstop where the engineers "opened it up and cleaned it up", if flew again with the gauge now working. However, before the flight ended, the right fuel flow gauge became inoperative. The pilot suspected that they had just "swapped the gauges". That suspicion was blown away when today it flew and then both fuel flow gauges broke down.

9. PK-KKT (B733/4/5)
Four days ago, this aircraft had a single IRS unserviceable and one of the operations officer refused to sign off the aircraft for dispatch. The management forced the aircraft to fly because it was carrying "valuable cargo." Normally, the aircraft shouldn't fly, and even if it did, it is restricted as follows:
-a Remaining IRS operates normally and is used for both attidude indications and both HSI's AND
-b flight is restricted to DAY VMC
-c all standby instruments operate normally...
-d NO autopilot
-e Must not operate in RVSM airspace

It ended up flying to Medan in IFR with autopilot and in RVSM airspace.

Again on a on a flight to Medan, this aircraft's first officer panel went dead mid-flight. Calling maintenance, they were asked to see if the CB had popped up. To the crew's surprise, the CB did not pop out, it was split in two. The aircraft was stranded in Medan awaiting spare parts. A joke has quickly surfaced in Adam about KKT's panel, "when the right panel is dead, you can still use the left one!"

It is not clear if both of KKT's incident occured within the same flight, however, by the information received, it appears that occured on the same day.

10. PK-KKW (B734) and -KKC
On the 19th, PK-KKC went in for a C-Check, despite having an abnormally high-EGT problem resulting in the crew flying under reduced N1, the engine didn't go in for repairs at this opportunity. Instead, it was moved into PK-KKW, and continued to fly under N1 reduction until yesterday or two days ago when the engine gave up completely. The engine was repaired quickly at a cost of US$300,000. The humourous thing was, the aircraft today was put intensively to cater for Adam Air's 14 extra flights to Bali today, and one of the owners was quoted complaining today that "all those extra flights still can't cover that engine repair costs!"

11. Unknown, B732... oil pressure light illuminate inflight. No further details.

7 out of 11 of these incidents occured within the last 10 days. Staff in Adam Air have lost count on how many technical delays and incidents that had occured within that period of time. This number comes out of a fleet of around 18 - 20 aircraft.


Operational Policy and Safety Policy
It is apparent that some in the senior management has a serious lack of understanding of an aircraft's operating dynamics (that aircraft work in weights not volume), and the safety measures that prevails in the industry.

Cargo
We all know that cargo is valuable, but it is not prudent to sacrifice safety for the sake of cargo revenue when you have paying passengers on board. If we look back at PK-KKT's incident, let's see how much they were getting.

On this 2 hr flight, the Take off weight was restricted due to the Maximum Landing Weight at the destination. It was carrying 2.8 tons of cargo. 2.8 tons of cargo would yield about US$9000, now if it wasn't full and was carrying only 150 pax, that would mean that the lives of each passenger is valued at US$60 thanks to Adam Air's policy. That's not worth much is it?

Cargo, Safety and Flight Ops - The daily conflicts.

One of the most dillematic part of Adam Air operations is the flight operations department. Due to various conflicts and poorer than industrial standard working conditions, the Adam Air Flight Operations Officers in Jakarta decided to strike on 11th of August, causing chaos on Adam Air's operations. By the end of the day, of all 46 FOOs, 33 were fired, and there was a huge gap in the FOO coverage.

Adam Air covered the deficit by "importing" FOOs from its outstations as well as newly recruited FOOs were put to run the show immediately. However, unlicensed FOOs also filled the gap. One case is a former company debt collector who was sent there to "help". The person has absolutely no clue on Civil Aviation Safety Regulations, weight limits, fuel requirements etc, let alone being licensed.

On the friday, Adam conducted interviews for FOO applicants and put them into use. All those previously rejected were immediately taken in. Even the former district manager of Bouraq and station manager of Jatayu was taken in.
Adam is still seeking ways to take legal actions against 33 FOOs they fired.

In Adam, the FOO is under Ramp and is supervised by the ramp manager. The ramp manager (which is not a licensed FOO) would not know what to decide when confronted with flight planning issues/problems especially when a conflict occurs between the FOO and the Cargo department. The FOOs measure the payload to conform to the performance limits. Explaining this to the cargo department or the ramp manager is a futile exercise because he does not understand why there is the Single Engine climb limit weight or why there is a V1 and a runway performance chart. What he does understand is the language of the cargo manager, which is "if there's space, why not fill it". The concept of weight limitations (instead of space limitations) seems like an alien concept to them, including the management.

This safety problem is further boosted by the management's emphasis on prioritising cargo. The Chief Pilot has no say, it is maximise cargo revenue to the limit, and cutting cost to the absolute minimum.

"It happens often..."
One sad example that is a result of this is on the 15th when over the radio it was heard that a 732 destined for PNK diverted due to low visibility. The Terminal Area Forecast was different from the actual, which was only 500m. The Flight Ops department could not get the actual weather of the destination. There is no telex, the photocopier had to be shared with other department (including sales and ticketing, who needs a LOT of photocopying). Where could the actual weather information be obtained from? No one is in the Adam Air office in PNK yet as it was too early in the morning. Upon hearing of the diversion, the Flight Ops in CGK was heard calling the aircraft to apologise and was replied, "It's OK, it happens often."

Bad habits are fuel for displeasure
The negative side effect of the Flight Ops being under Ramp is happening in the critical aspect of flying: FUEL. With the senior management wielding absolute power, it is normal for a displeased colleague to report any incident directly to the senior management to seek retribution in the form of punishment to the so-called offending party. With FlightOps being under Ramp, fuel uplift becomes a conflict of management hierarchy. An incident was reported by a witness where the ramp agent threatened to report the flight ops officer to the management because the agent had filled the tanks to 9,500kgs of fuel when the captain ordered 10,000. The fuel truck was unhappy to return only to pump 500kgs of fuel.

This was a result of "following habits" and not consulting with the flight-ops department as the necessary extra 500kgs of fuel due to heavier than normal headwinds to the destination. When the error was discovered, because the Flight-Ops is below Ramp, the ramp agent would throw his fits at the Flight Ops.

MZFW
With the company's emphasis on cargo, and that the ramp agent is the one supervising the cargo loading, the risk of a ramp agent to under-report the cargo weight to the flight-ops is there.

Junior Flight Operations Officers tend to accomodate these conflicts, however, not so in the right way. One aircraft was 700kg over MZFW, the FOO told the pilot that he "overloaded the aircraft" by 700kgs. Not wanting to enter a delay to offload everything, the Captain asked, "So I'll just burn off the 700kgs before take off."So after pushback it sat there burning off the 700kgs (about 15 minutes worth to lower weight. When another flight ops officer not supervising the flight saw this, he asked the ramp agent why was it doing engine run ups after pushback. The reply was "he's over MZFW by 700kgs so he's there burning the 700kgs so he'll be legal for take off."

Where does this end?
This lack of understanding on MZFW also extends to the management who recently asked for all flights inbound to Jakarta Soekarno-Hatta Intl (CGK/WIII) to have file with Jakarta Halim Intl (HLP/WIHH) as an alternate, instead of the other alternates about 50 minutes away. Their reason for this is so that the airplanes can carry less fuel and carry more cargo instead. However, with all Adam Air flights having restricted take off weights due to Max Landing Weight limits or MZFW limits, this seriously cast a cloud of concern and fear that perhaps, until one of Adam Air's jets become a smoking hole in the ground, there will be no change.

What do you think?


PK-KAR
Actualight
Please advise, how to insert image? where to complete URL for image? Thank you.
Actualight
From: Cucu Chandra/JKR/ ID/Marsh/ MMC

Marsh - the world's leading risk and insurance specialist.. . http://www.marsh- asia.com

JANGAN PERNAH BAWA DRY ICE di KABIN mobil

Saya punya pengalaman tak terlupakan baru tadi siang,
di tol jkt-bekasi, bawa ice cream, dan diisi/diselip
dgn dry ice supaya tidak lumer di jalan, lumayan
sedikit, hanya 4 carton ice cream... dan ditaroh di
dalam mobiljok belakang. Saya menggunakan AC dan tutup
kaca spt biasa.

Sejak naik tol,saya masih nelpon temen dan ngobrol,
selanjutnya setelah itu, sepanjang perjalanan saya
mulai agak susah bernapas, dan saya pikir hanya karena
buru2 dan ngos2an. Tapi bingung juga kok sudah sejauh
ini jalan, masih tetap ngos2an, dan semakin lama napas
saya bukannya makin enteng malah makin susah bernapas,
semakin berat dan cepat menarik dan membuang napas.

Hal itu terus berlangsung dan terus semakin dan
semakin susah bernapas, semakin berat dan semakin
cepat menarik/membuang napas. Dan menjelang pintu tol
jatibening, jalanan macet dan merayap, saya semakin
susah dan berat bernapas dan hampir tidak kuat
bertahan lagi, untung saja kebetulan saya melihat
ambulance jalan tol, di lajur kiri yg juga merayap,
dan saya berhenti minta tolong kpd mereka, dan
kemudian saya ditolong dgn oksigen, duduk sebelah
sopir, dan mobil disopiri tenaga medis dan saya dibawa
ke rs mitra bekasi. Ambulan mengikuti.

Menjelang pintu bekasi barat, macet juga dan merayap,
tenaga medis yang menyopiri saya merasa udara dalam
mobil kurang bagus dan merasa agak susah bernapas
juga, namun dia kemudian membuka kaca mobil hingga
sampai di RS. Di RS sang tenaga medis memberitahukan
saya bahwa kemungkinan AC atau knalpot mobil bocor dan
memperburuk udara dalam mobil, sehingga membuat dia
sesak napas juga sepanjang perjalanan ke RS.

Di RS, saya dibantu dgn oksigen dan dicek jantung.
Jantung dll ok, dan napas juga kembali normal.
Kesimpulan sementara: "something wrong with the car!"
Setengah jam di RS, Dr mengijinkan saya pulang. Karena
merasa mobil tidak beres, saya balik ke kantor tanpa
AC dan kaca dibuka.

Sesampai di kantor,baru saya ketahui dari teman yang
sudah pengalaman bahwa: "Dry Ice lah yang membuat saya
sesak napas karena dry ice nya ditaroh di jok belakang
(dalam mobil), dan jika ditaroh di bagasi enggak
apa2."

Saya ingin share pengalaman ini kepada semua teman2 yg
belum pernah mengalami hal ini agar kejadian ini
jangan sampai berulang pada mereka yang tidak/belum
mengerti. Namun alangkah baiknya jika kita semua yg
tidak mengerti diberikan pengetahuan / pencerahan oleh
bpk2/ibu2 yang mengerti tentang mekanisme proses
kimia: "mengapa dry ice dapat membuat kita sesak napas
di dalam ruangan mobil yang ber AC?" Jadi Dry Ice itu
CO2 (zat asam arang = sisa pembakaran oksigen/zat
asam) yang jauh lebih mudah diikat oleh darah),
makanya walaupun bentuknya dan dinginnya mirip es tapi
pada suhu ruangan langsung menyublim jadi gas tanpa
basah (karena memang tidak berair). Yang terjadi di
mobil itu adalah Dry ice di kabin mobil menyublim dan
gas CO2 yang terjadi memenuhi kabin serta ikut
sirkulasi AC mobil. Akhirnya kabin penuh CO2 sehingga
supir-e sesegen. Untung saja gak meninggal. "jangan
sekali-sekali bawa dry ice di kabin mobil penumpang",
bawalah selalu dalam mobil cool-box yang
terisolasi/terutup rapat.

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Subject: The Dangers of Drinking Microwaved Water

"Below is a science fair project that my granddaughter did for 2006. In it she took filtered water and divided it into two parts. The first part she heated to boiling in a pan on the stove, and the
second part she heated to boiling in a microwave. Then after cooling she used the water to water two identical plants to see if there would be any difference in the growth between the normal boiled
water and the water boiled in a microwave. She was thinking that the structure or energy of the water may be compromised by microwave. As it turned out, even she was amazed at the difference.")

I have known for years that the problem with microwaved anything is not the radiation people used to worry about. It's how it corrupts the DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it. So the body
wraps it in fat cells to protect itself from the dead food or it eliminates it fast. Think of all the Mothers heating up milk in these "Safe" appliances. What about the nurse in Canada that warmed
up blood for a transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went in dead. But the makers say it's safe. But proof is in the pictures of living plants dying.
FORENSIC RESEARCH DOCUMENT
Prepared By: William P. KoppA. R. E. C. Research Operations TO61-7R10/10-77F05 RELEASE PRIORITY: CLASS I ROO1a
Ten Reasons to Throw out your Microwave Oven
From the conclusions of the Swiss, Russian and German scientific clinical studies, we can no longer ignore the microwave oven sitting in our kitchens. Based on this research, we will conclude this article with the following:
1). Continually eating food processed from a microwave oven causes long term - permanent - brain damage by "shorting out" electrical impulses in the brain [de-polarizing or de-magnetizing the brain
tissue].
2). The human body cannot metabolize [break down] the unknown by-products created in microwaved food.
3). Male and female hormone production is shut down and/or altered by continually eating microwaved foods.
4). The effects of microwaved food by-products are residual [long term, permanent] within the human body.
5). Minerals, vitamins, and nutrients of all microwaved food is reduced or altered so that the human body gets little or no benefit, or the human body absorbs altered compounds that cannot be broken down.
6). The minerals in vegetables are altered into cancerous free radicals when cooked in microwave ovens.
7). Microwaved foods cause stomach and intestinal cancerous growths [tumors]. This may explain the rapidly increased rate of colon cancer in America .
8). The prolonged eating of microwaved foods causes cancerous cells to increase in human blood.
9). Continual ingestion of microwaved food causes immune system deficiencies through lymph gland and blood serum alterations.
10). Eating microwaved food causes loss of memory, concentration, emotional instability, and a decrease of intelligence.
Have you tossed out your microwave oven yet? After you throw out your microwave, you can use a toaster oven as a replacement. It works well for most and is nearly as quick. The use of artificial microwave transmissions for subliminal psychological control, a.k.a. "brainwashing", has also been proven. We're attempting to obtain copies of the 1970's Russian research documents and results written
by Drs. Luria and Perov specifying their clinical experiments in this area.
Kopassus
My goodnes....i really dont feel safe in an aircraft with the name PK-KKN.......
haqine
QUOTE(Actualight @ Aug 29 2006, 11:21 PM) *

Please advise, how to insert image? where to complete URL for image? Thank you.


^Hi there
Just klik a tree pic at the reply form, then insert the URL.
If u want to insert pix that taken by ur self, use photobucket.
Actualight
QUOTE(haqine @ Sep 1 2006, 12:23 PM) *

^Hi there
Just klik a tree pic at the reply form, then insert the URL.
If u want to insert pix that taken by ur self, use photobucket.


GOOd TEETH, NICE SMILE! YES, Always smile from HEART.

I can find the tree, but where to find the PHOTOBUCKET? Thanks.

I want to show picutres, Wing fixed with TAPE.
Actualight
Oh! No. Richard Oh,
Only you can imagine, what you did in "KOPER"; the movie.
Oh! No. Richard Oh,
Yahya's wife is sick and treated in a hospital,
And he is enjoying old goodies music with a girl.
Oh! No. Richard Oh,
If you do that to your wife,
I'm sure, your wife will give you a KOPER to leave.

Next time, find and use a steet dog, not your own doberman.
Oh! No. Richard Oh,
Don't do it anymore.
GluTTony
I remember last time the story in Ancol waterpark that someone died because ....eek.gif


would you like me to continue icon_smile.gif?
Actualight
QUOTE(GluTTony @ Sep 3 2006, 07:59 PM) *

I remember last time the story in Ancol waterpark that someone died because ....eek.gif
would you like me to continue icon_smile.gif?

Yes, Please continue....
And where is the PHOTO BUCKET? I want to post picture that I took, not from URL.
GluTTony
ok then well its old but oh well I'll say it in Indo:

Ada orang yang mati gara2 ada org iseng yang naro silet di perosotan Ancol waterpark yang gak pake ban. kulit kepalanya kebelah trus air kolam berenangnya penuh darah -ekk pukeface.gif

but now I think there's no more cuz they changed it into atlandtis waterpark and the security is higher and all.

BTW be creative and search in google e-go! icon_wink.gif you have to register first

http://photobucket.com/
Actualight
Adam Is Fixing A Hole
IPB Image

QUOTE(GluTTony @ Sep 3 2006, 08:53 PM) *

ok then well its old but oh well I'll say it in Indo:

Ada orang yang mati gara2 ada org iseng yang naro silet di perosotan Ancol waterpark yang gak pake ban. kulit kepalanya kebelah trus air kolam berenangnya penuh darah -ekk pukeface.gif

but now I think there's no more cuz they changed it into atlandtis waterpark and the security is higher and all.

BTW be creative and search in google e-go! icon_wink.gif you have to register first

http://photobucket.com/

Thanks. Kap Jai. Domo Arigatto. Terima Kasih.
Actualight
Subject: Baygon-Pengetahuan Utk Keluarga Kesayangan Anda!
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:48:33 +1000

>Dari sipenulis yang bekerja di Baygon.
>
>Mudah2an artikel dibawah ini bisa bermanfaat...........
>
>Agak ragu saya menulis artikel ini karena menyangkut pekerjaan yang saya
>geluti, tapi sebagai orang yang sedikit banyak tahu saya merasa berdosa
>bila tidak menyampaikannya. Silakan di forward bila perlu...
>
>Seberapa sering anda memakai obat nyamuk ? Apa mereknya ? apa jenisnya?
>ampuhkah ? berapa harganya ? itulah pertanyaan yang sering mucul tentang
>obat nyamuk, tapi berapa banyak yang bertanya AMANKAH ?
>Saya harus bilang bahwa saat ini boleh dibilang tidak ada satu pun obat
>nyamuk di Indonesia yang benar2 ampuh dan AMAN.
>
>Prinsip dasar yang harus dipahami semua orang ketika menggunakan obat
>nyamuk adalah bahwa zat yang dipakai itu RACUN, dan tidak ada racun yang
>benar2 aman. Saya sedih melihat iklan2 di TV dan media lain yang
>menyesatkan. tahu iklan Baygon terbaru tentang Baygon biru yang tidak bikin
>batuk or wanginya segar ? Itu iklan yang keterlaluan dan sangat
>menyesatkan, karena seolah2 dengan menggunakan Baygon biru kita boleh tetap
>berada di ruangan saat penyemprotan terjadi. Saya sudah protes Intern tapi
>tidak serius ditanggapi.
>
>Baygon mengandung 2 racun utama yaitu Propoxur dan transfluthrin.
>Propoxur adalah senyawa karbamat (senyawa antaranya, MIC, pernah menewaskan
>ribuan orang dan menyebabkan kerusakan syaraf ratusan ribu orang lainnya
>dalam kasus Bhopal di India) yang telah dilarang penggunaannya di luar
>negri karena diduga kuat sebagai zat karsinogenik sedangkan transfluthrin
>relatif aman hingga saat ini.
>
>Saya pernah kerja di pabrik propoxur for more than 1.5 years so I know much
>about this, saya juga pernah "mabuk" propoxur karena menyentuhnya dengan
>tangan yang sudah menggunakan sarung tangan... 7 hari panas dingin gak
>keruan. Kalau yang lain bagaimana ?
>
>HIT yang promosinya sebagai obat nyamuk ampuh dan murah memang benar bahkan
>sedikit lebih ampuh dari Baygon tapi sangat berbahaya karena bukan hanya
>menggunakan Propoxur tapi juga DDVP atau dichlorvos.. . zat turunan
>chlorine yang sejak puluhan tahun dilarang penggunaannya di dunia. Murah
>tapi berbahaya, pilih mana?
>
>Sedangkan obat nyamuk lain seperti Baygon tutup hijau, Vape, Raid dan
>Mortein memang non propoxur dan non DDVP tapi keampuhannya sangat
>diragukan, mereka hanya efektif melawan nyamuk Aedes tapi berantakan saat
>melawan nyamuk Culex sp (ini nyamuk malam yang sering gangguin kita).
>
>Wangi pada obat nyamuk aerosol maupun semprot semestinya justru menjadi
>indikasi bahwa kita tidak boleh berada di ruangan tsb selama bau masih
>tercium, kurang lebih selama 1 jam....
>
>Obat nyamuk tipe lain bagaimana ? Sama saja, obat nyamuk bakar jelas
>menghasilkan asap dan racun, jenis electrik pun tetap menghasilkan racun
>(HIT bahkan menggunakan propoxur untuk obat nyamuk elektriknya).
>Penggunanaan obat nyamuk dengan cara dibakar atau dengan listrik harus
>dalam ruangan dengan sirkulasi udara yang baik, tidak boleh dalam ruangan
>tertutup karena racun dan asap yang dihasilkan akan mengurangi proporsi
>kandungan oksigen dalam ruangan.
>
>Kalau reppelent atau penolak nyamuk seperti Autan, Sari Puspa/Soffell, atau
>Lavender gimana ? For your info : Ketiganya mengandung racun bernama
>Diethyltoluamide atau DEET.
>
>DEET ini sangat korosif, Autan tidak dapat disimpan dalam wadah plastik PVC
>atau besi karena dalam hitungan minggu akan mengikis lapisannya. Bayangkan
>bila itu kena kulit kita ? Jadi sekali lagi telah terjadi pembohongan
>publik lewat iklan anti nyamuk yang lembut bagi kulit, mana mungkin zat
>yang jelas2 merusak kulit dapat merawat kulit, bahkan setelah ditambahi
>embel2 menggunkan Aloe Vera atau zat pelembab lain tetap saja berbahaya,
>jangan gunakan pada kulit yang sensitif atau anak di bawah usia 2 tahun.
>
>Jadi gimana ? Back to nature, kalau malam pakai kelambu, kalau siang pakai
>tangan or raket listrik. Obat nyamuk hanya digunakan bila gangguan memang
>sudah tak terkendali atau melebihi batas toleransi dan GUNAKAN DENGAN CARA
>YANG AMAN..... jangan pernah berfikir racun itu aman.....beberapa memang
>ampuh tapi tak ada yang benar2 aman... pilihlah yang efek racunnya paling
>kecil, jika sekedar untuk mengendalikan (bukan membasmi, sebab kalau nyamuk
>habis maka selesai pula lah pekerjaan orang2 seperti saya) nyamuk maka
>pilihan terbaik adalah Baygon Tutup hijau (racunnya transfluthrin dan
>Cyfluthrin) Vape or Mortein, kalau perlu mengendalikan kecoa maka Baygon
>selain tutup hijau dan Mortein adalah pilihan terbaik. Kalau obat nyamuk
>bakar sih hampir sama semua... obat nyamuk elektrik pilihannya ada pada
>Baygon or Vape, sedangkan lotion penolak nyamuk antara Sari Puspa or !
>Autan (kandungan DEET 13 dan 12.5 , sedangkan Lavender hingga 15).
>
>Semuanya terserah anda ...........
>
>Bony Budiman
>PT Johnson Home Hygiene Products
>Pulogadung Industrial Estate - East Jakarta Ph; : 021-4612957, Fax :
>021-4618471
Actualight
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haqine
That is steve irwin rite ?
I'm sorry to heard about his death.
Ternyata ikan pari berbahaya juga icon_confused.gif

QUOTE(Actualight @ Sep 2 2006, 11:10 PM) *

GOOd TEETH, NICE SMILE! YES, Always smile from HEART.


Well, actually that's not mine icon_redface.gif

QUOTE(Actualight @ Sep 2 2006, 11:10 PM) *

I can find the tree, but where to find the PHOTOBUCKET? Thanks.


I'm sorry, i just login today, but Glut had answered it already kan icon_smile.gif


@Rian :
Kayaknya pernah dengar masalah silet itu deh. Udah lama yah kejadiannya?
GluTTony
^^ yeap hehe I'm Old icon_sad.gif icon_redface.gif
haqine
Yeah rite, you old because you are still 16 years old eek.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
GluTTony
^^ no I'm 17! I mean old as in old talking about the berita2 yg udah lama/gak jaman
Actualight
They are PROVOKING, Aren't they?
See, how they celebrated 17 of August 2006.
They made others to DISLIKE them.
They MUST NOT did it in other countries.
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Actualight
Please go here... ... to see what Japanese eat

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showforum=34[/url]
GluTTony
QUOTE(Actualight @ Sep 11 2006, 05:11 PM) *

They are PROVOKING, Aren't they?
See, how they celebrated 17 of August 2006.
They made others to DISLIKE them.
They MUST NOT did it in other countries.
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did they do this in Indonesia icon_smile.gif
Actualight
The pictures were taken in Kampung Bule.
Actualight
QUOTE(Actualight @ Sep 11 2006, 04:53 PM) *

Please go here... ... to see what Japanese eat

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showforum=34


The topic could've been erased almost immeditely.
The forum don't dare to show the cruelty of Japanese.
They reflected their cruelty during the Second World War.

You guys want to see... the pictures here???
Must have 10 YES before you can see.
GluTTony
QUOTE(Actualight @ Sep 11 2006, 09:50 PM) *

The pictures were taken in Kampung Bule.


where's Kampung Bule?
purple
im at uni and i opened up this thread and all those naked people flashed before my eyes! i got told off for looking at porn! bawling.gif
GluTTony
^^ eek.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
Actualight
QUOTE(GluTTony @ Sep 12 2006, 03:51 PM) *

^^ eek.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

Glut... your photo is too large! Why don't you reduce it. Thanks.
Actualight
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Tsunami ICED UP in South Pole.
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QUOTE(Actualight @ Sep 11 2006, 08:50 PM) *

The pictures were taken in Kampung Bule.


Is it on Jalan Jaksa ?

QUOTE(GluTTony @ Sep 10 2006, 09:59 AM) *

^^ no I'm 17! I mean old as in old talking about the berita2 yg udah lama/gak jaman


oh ok...
Udah 17 toh, sudah baligh icon_smile.gif

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Tsunami ICED UP in South Pole.
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tell me weird, but it's beautiful eek.gif

Is that you?
Actualight
tell me weird, but it's beautiful eek.gif

Is that you? [/quote]
NO, NOT ME.

Is it the way, HE reduced the level of sea water?
purnomor
What's this thread actually about?
Actualight
QUOTE(purnomor @ Sep 18 2006, 09:50 AM) *

What's this thread actually about?


Read the TOPIC!
.... just anything, instead of creating a lot of different kind of TOPICS.
haqine
QUOTE(Actualight @ Sep 18 2006, 07:17 AM) *

Is it the way, HE reduced the level of sea water?


meaning ? confused.gif

Eh, u had not answer my question yet, is Kampung Bule in Jalan Jaksa?
Thank u before icon_smile.gif
Actualight
QUOTE(haqine @ Sep 18 2006, 07:10 PM) *

meaning ? confused.gif

Eh, u had not answer my question yet, is Kampung Bule in Jalan Jaksa?
Thank u before icon_smile.gif

I was told...it's at Pondok Indah area...
QuK
Indonesia once against shows that it is an environmental paradise. Let's hope that in the future more money and resources can be devoted to protecting Indonesia's treasures.

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Shark that walks on fins is discovered
By MICHAEL CASEY, AP Environmental Writer

BANGKOK, Thailand - Scientists combing through undersea fauna off Indonesia's Papua province said Monday they had discovered dozens of new species, including a shark that walks on its fins and a shrimp that looks like a praying mantis.

The team from U.S.-based Conservation International also warned that the area — known as Bird's Head Seascape — is under danger from fishermen who use dynamite and cyanide to net their catches and called on Indonesia's government to do more to protect it.

"It's one of the most stunningly beautiful landscapes and seascapes on the planet," said Mark Erdmann, a senior adviser of Conservation International who led two surveys to the area earlier this year.

"Above and below water, it's simply mind blowing," he said.

Erdmann and his team claim to have discovered 52 new species, including 24 new species of fish, 20 new species of coral and eight new species of shrimp. Among the highlights were an epaulette shark that walks on its fins, a praying mantis-like shrimp and scores of reef-building corals, he said.

Conservation International said papers on two of the new fish species, called flasher wrasse because of the bright colors the male exhibits during mating, have been accepted for publication to the Aqua, Journal of Ichthyology and Aquatic Biology.

The group is in the process of writing papers on the other species, it said.

Carden Wallace, a coral expert and principal scientist at the Museum of Tropical Queensland in Townsville, Australia, said she was not surprised by the finding "mostly because it is a remote location and hasn't been visited by scientists very much."

Wallace said the finds should give scientists crucial data.

"This will give us a better understanding of where all this diversity originates from and how vulnerable it may be," Wallace said.

Erdmann said the discoveries add to an already legendary reputation for the area, which stretches for 70,000 square miles on the northwestern end of Indonesia's Papua province.

Dubbed Asia's "Coral Triangle," it is home to more than 1,200 species of fish and almost 600 species of reef-building coral, or 75 percent of the world's known total.

But the region's biodiversity faces threats from subsistence fishermen who use dynamite and cyanide, as well as a government plan to introduce commercial fishing along the coast. That has prompted Conservation International to call for the government to set up a series of marine parks around Bird's Head Seascape.

"These Papuan reefs are literally species factories that require special attention to protect them from unsustainable fisheries and other threats so they can continue to benefit their local owners and the global community," Erdmann said.

Erdmann said only 11 percent of the area currently is protected, most of it in the Teluk Cendarawasih National Park. He said the government is studying the idea of creating additional marine parks.

The surveys took place in waters surrounding Papua from Teluk Cenderawasih in the north to Raja Ampat archipelago off the western coast and southeast to the FakFak-Kaimana coastline.

The two survey sites are a few hundred miles from another Conservation International site in the Foja Mountains. Researchers in February announced a survey of the Foja Mountains discovered 20 frog species — including a microhylid frog less than a half-inch long — four new butterfly species, and at least five new types of palms.

Researchers also encountered the Long-beaked Echidna, members of the primitive egg-laying group of mammals called the Monotremes.
Actualight
The Best way to proctect it, is not to find it.
Let it to be unknown...
Actualight
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: [paskibraka_indonesia] Leptospirosis dalam kaleng minuman

IMPORTANT !!!

Untuk para penggemar minum - minuman kaleng !!

Baru - baru ini ada seorang wanita di Amerika pada saat liburan bepergian dengan perahu boatnya, lalu ia meminum beberapa kaleng minuman Coca-Cola yang biasa dia simpan dilemari pendingin pada perahu boatnya.

Keesokan harinya pada hari Senin, wanita tersebut pingsan lalu dibawa ke rumah sakit dan ditempatkan diruang ICU, pada hari Rabunya dia meninggal.

Untuk mengetahui penyebab kematiannya, maka dilakukan autopsy dan kesimpulannya kematiannya diakibatkan oleh suatu zat yang disebut LEPTOSPIROSIS, setelah diselidiki dan ditelusuri zat ini berasal dari kaleng minuman yang dia minum langsung tanpa menggunakan gelas atau sedotan.

Dan dari hasil test di laboratorium menunjukan bahwa kaleng minuman tersebut terinfeksi oleh zat LEPTOSPIROSIS yang dihasilkan dari air kencing tikus yang mengering dan bereaksi membentuk zat tersebut.

Hasil test Lab. menunju! kan bahwa air kencing tikus juga mengandung berbagai racun yang mematikan lainnya, oleh karena itu sangat dianjurkan apabila kita membeli minum - minuman dalam kaleng agar mencuci kaleng tersebut, terutama pada bagian atas tempat membuka minuman tersebut.

Hal ini beralasan karena begitu selesai diproduksi kaleng - kaleng tersebut disimpan didalam gudang dan lalu dikirim langsung ke toko-toko dan langsung dijual kepada pembeli tanpa terlebih dahulu diberisihkan.

Penelitian di NYCU ( New York College Univ.) menunjukan bahwa permukaan minuman kaleng yang terdapat tutup pembukanya lebih tinggi tingkat kontaminasinya dari zat beracun dan mematikan dari pada WC umum yang hanya dipenuhi oleh jamur dan bakteri.

Jadi cucilah dahulu dengan bersih segala sesuatunya, sebelum meletakannya pada mulut kita, untuk mencegah kejadian yang berakibat fatal.

GluTTony
^^ That's rreeeeaaaallllyyold news! I heard that from when I was in 4/5th Grade (1997/98)
Actualight
QUOTE(GluTTony @ Sep 20 2006, 10:50 AM) *

^^ That's rreeeeaaaallllyyold news! I heard that from when I was in 4/5th Grade (1997/98)

Well! Then ... For those who have not known!
Actualight
Subject: Fw: Future Plan Jakarta...



>>
>> Jakarta bakal keren di tahun 2010?
>>
>> 15 corridors of Busway.
>> (1 corridor will be disable after a subway line operated).
>>
>> Jakarta Monorail (LRT) Blue Line and Green Line.
>> MRT Subway with Elevated Track. Ground Track and Underground Track.
>>
>> And Also WaterBus on Banjr Kanal Timur And Banjir Kanal Barat..
>>
>> And Also Jakarta Tower..
>> Dance Laser Fountain at Monas..
>>
>> Untuk Monorail, rencananya memakai teknologi Siemens Inka..
>> Jakarta Monorail telah diteliti oleh pembuat Tunnel Prancis - Inggris.
>>
>> Subway akan dibuat oleh Jepang.
>> Busway memakai bahan bakar gas..
>>
>> Monorail terbagi 2 jalur :
>> Jalur biru (blue line) meliputi Kampung Melayu, Tebet, Saharjo, Menteng
>> Dalam, Casablanca, Dharmala Sakti, Menara Batavia, Karet, Kebon Kacang,
>> Cideng, Tomang, berakhir di Mal Taman Anggrek.
>>
>> Jalur hijau (green line) yang disebut jalur melingkar meliputi HR Rasuna
>> Said (Kuningan Central), Taman Rasuna, Gran Melia, Satria Mandala, Polda
>> Metropolitan Jakarta Raya, SCBD, Bursa Efek Jakarta, Sudirman Place,
>> Plaza
>> Senayan, Stadion Madya Gelora Bung Karno, Stasiun Palmerah, Pejompongan,
>> Karet, Sudirman, Setia Budi Utara, dan kembali ke Kuningan Central.
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Spesifikasi MRT Jakarta
>>
>> Misi :
>>
>> Menyediakan pelayanan jasa transportasi yang cepat dan nyaman sehingga
>> perjalanan kerja, bisnis, sekolah, sosial, dan lain-lain dapat dilakukan
>> secara efisien tanpa terganggu oleh kemacetan lalu lintas jalan raya.
>>
>> Tujuan :
>>
>> Membangun suatu jaringan sistem angkutan masal (Mass Rapid Transit - MRT)
>> di Jakarta, yang pada tahap awal akan dibangun pada koridor
>> Fatmawati-Kota.
>>
>> Subway di Jakarta nantinya akan menggunakan 4 gerbong kereta?
>>
>> Detail Subway
>>
>> Panjang : 13,5 km (Blok M-Kota)
>> Frekuensi : 5 menit (jam sibuk), 10 menit (di luar jam sibuk), 15 menit
>> (malam hari)
>> Kapasitas Sistem : 45.000 penumpang/jam/arah
>> Kecepatan maksimum : 85 km/jam
>> Kecepatan rata-rata : 35 km/jam
>> Waktu operasi : 18 jam (06.00-24.00)
>>
>> Desain Stasiun
>>
>> Stasiun dirancang terdiri dari 2 lantai yaitu lantai Concourse dan lantai
>> Platform.
>>
>> Stasiun dirancang sesuai standar NFPA 130 (1995) yang mencakup antara
>> lain
>> tentang perancangan tangga, eskalator, koridor dan kapasitas pintu, waktu
>> evakuasi pada kondisi darurat, sistem pemadam kebakaran dan ketahanan
>> terhadap api.
>>
>> Stasiun juga dirancang untuk dapat digunakan oleh penyandang cacat
>> seperti
>> pemakai kursi roda dan tuna netra.
>>
>> Lokasi Stasiun
>>
>> Lokasi stasiun diusahakan sedekat mungkin dengan pusat-pusat
>> perkantoran/perbelanjaan atau dengan halte bus, sehingga terintegrasi
>> dengan sistem transportasi jalan raya, serta sangat mudah untuk dicapai
>> dengan berjalan kaki.
>>
>> Kelengkapan Stasiun
>>
>> Stasiun juga akan dilengkapi dengan ruang untuk kios, bank, kantor pos,
>> telepon umum, dan lain-lain. Stasiun dilengkapi dengan mesin penjual
>> tiket
>> otomatis serta automatic fare collection sehingga hanya penumpang yang
>> telah membeli tiket saja yang dapat masuk ke areal platform di dalam
>> stasiun.
>>
>> Kenyamanan Penumpang
>>
>> Untuk memaksimalkan kenyamanan penumpang, maka setiap stasiun (dan
>> kereta)
>> akan dilengkapi dengan penyejuk udara (AC). Stasiun dilengkapi dengan
>> sistem informasi berupa gambar, tulisan, sistem audio, dan lain-lain yang
>> sangat mudah untuk dimengerti bagi para pengguna jasa kereta api.
>>
>>
>> Moda
>>
>> Moda yang akan digunakan adalah kereta api listrik.
>>
>> Deskripsi Sistem
>>
>> Panjang lintasan : 19 km
>> Jarak antar stasiun rata-rata : 1 km
>> Alinyemen vertikal : seluruhnya underground
>> Kapasitas sistem : 45.000 penumpang/jam/arah
>> Panjang platform : 140 m
>> Lebar kereta : 1435 mm (standard)
>> Pengumpulan listrik : overhead catenary 1500 Volt (DC)
>> Kecepatan maksimum : 80 km/jam
>> Kecepatan rata-rata : 35 km/jam
>> Formasi kereta : 6 kendaraan per rangkaian
>>
>> Ukuran Kendaraan
>>
>> Panjang : 23 meter
>> Lebar : 3,2 meter
>> Kapasitas angkut : 2100 penumpang per kereta
>> Selang waktu kendaraan (pada jam sibuk) : 2-5 menit
>> Waktu operasi : 18 jam (06.00-24.00)
>>
>> Depo
>>
>> Depo dipergunakan untuk tempat parkir kereta, perawatan dan perbaikan
>> kereta api yang bersifat rutin baik ringan maupun berat, Permanent Way
>> Workshop dan Fixed Facilities Workshop.
>> Selain itu depo juga akan dimanfaatkan untuk mengakomodasikan tempat
>> pencucian kereta, gedung administrasi serta Pusat Kontrol Operasi
>> (Operation Control Centre). Rencananya di dekat Jalan Lontar.
>>
>> Keselamatan
>>
>> Pengoperasian kereta dikontrol sepenuhnya dari ruang kontrol dengan
>> bantuan
>> komputer.
>> Pintu kereta akan selalu tertutup pada saat kereta dalam keadaan
>> berjalan.
>> Setiap kereta akan dilengkapi dengan sistem telekomunikasi 2 (dua) arah
>> untuk dapat berhubungan langsung dengan petugas di pusat kontrol.
>> Kereta dan stasiun akan diperlengkapi dengan CCTV agar penumpang dapat
>> dipantau dengan mudah.
>> Stasiun dilengkapi dengan pintu platform (platform screen door) yaitu
>> pintu
>> yang dipasang di ujung platform, yang membuka secara bersamaan dengan
>> pintu
>> kereta.
>>
>> Metoda Konstruksi
>>
>> Pembangunan terowongan di antara dua stasiun pada umumnya akan dilakukan
>> dengan menggunakan Tunnel Boring Machine (TBM) dari jenis permukaan
>> tertutup (closed face) yang dilengkapi dengan shield mekanis (mechanical
>> shield). Pengeboran terowongan akan dimulai dari beberapa lokasi kerja
>> tertentu yang terletak di luar badan jalan di sepanjang rute. TBM akan
>> dioperasikan dari suatu lokasi kerja tertentu, melalui beberapa stasiun
>> antara yang sedang dalam tahap konstruksi, sampai akhirnya dikeluarkan
>> pada
>> lokasi kerja berikutnya. Sebagian besar stasiun akan dibangun di bawah
>> badan jalan dengan menggunakan metoda gali dan urug (cut and cover).
>>
>> Stasiun-stasiun tersebut akan dibangun di antara dinding penahan tanah,
>> dengan ukuran (galian) panjang 175 meter, lebar 22 meter, dan kedalaman
>> sampai dengan 19 meter.
>>
>> Masa konstruksi sekitar 63 bulan.
>>
>> Gangguan lalu lintas yang minimum pada masa konstruksi:
>> Pembangunan terowongan dengan menggunakan Tunnel Boring Machine (TBM)
>> tidak
>> mengganggu lalu lintas.
>> Walaupun pembangunan stasiun dilakukan di bawah badan jalan dengan metode
>> "cut and cover", namun jalan tersebut tidak perlu ditutup seluruhnya
>> sehingga tetap dapat dilalui kendaraan.
>> Pengangkutan tanah hasil galian dilakukan melalui terowongan yang sudah
>> dibangun. Pengangkutan segmen dinding terowongan dilakukan melalui rute
>> yang sama.
>> Pengangkutan material dan pembuangan tanah hasil galian dapat dilakukan
>> pada malam hari pada saat lalu lintas sedang sepi.
>> Menurut data yang ada, satu koridor Trans Jakarta sudah bisa mengurangi
>> 14
>> % jumlah mobil di Jakarta.
>> Bayangkan kalau semua sarana transportasi ini dibangun... mungkin 50 %
>> mobil Jakarta akan berkurang..
Actualight
I HAVE SOME GRUESOME PICTURES, ABOUT "HOTTEST" CUISINE.
I DONT' KNOW WHETHER CAN BE POST OR NOT?
IF I RECIEVE 3 "YES", I WILL POST THEM.
JUST TYPE "YES" AT LEAST FOR 3 TIMES...EVEN FROM THE SAME PERSON.
I WILL POST THE PICTURES FOR YOU TO SEE.
Actualight
Oxford Dictionary's latest definition of the following words:

**Divorce*: Future tense of marriage.

**Cigarette* : A pinch of tobacco rolled in paper with fire at one end & a fool on the other.

**Lecture*: An art of transferring information from the notes of the lecturer to the notes of the students without passing through "the minds of either"

**Conference* : The confusion of one man multiplied by the number present.

**Compromise* : The art of dividing a cake in such a way that everybody believes he got the biggest piece.

**Conference Room*: A place where everybody talks, nobody listens and everybody disagrees later on.

**Classic*: A book which people praise, but do not read.

**Yawn*: The only time some married men ever get to open their mouth.

**Committee* : Individuals who can do nothing individually and sit to decide that nothing can be done together.

**Experience* : The name men give to their mistakes.

**Philosopher* : A fool who torments himself during life, to be spoken of when dead.

**Opportunist* : A person who starts taking bath if he accidentally falls into a river.

**Optimist*: A person who while falling from Eiffel tower says in midway "See I am not injured yet."

**Miser*: A person who lives poor so that he can die rich.

**Father*: A banker provided by nature.

**Criminal*: A guy no different from the rest...except that he got caught.

**Boss*: Someone who is early when you are late and late when you are early.

**Politician* : One who shakes your hand before elections and your confidence after.

**Doctor*: A person who kills your ills by pills, and kills you with his bills.
Actualight
-troll
GluTTony
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yang ngecopi siapa biggrin.gif

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haqine
^I kinda miss him/her (?)

QUOTE(GluTTony @ Dec 6 2006, 09:36 PM) *

Logo PDIP

yang ngecopi siapa biggrin.gif

http://www.662mob.com/shopping/


^^ LOL
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